Star Citizen from a Elite Dangerous players perspective

[@jbirdmax]

The second you said “Oh I’ll just take a flight around the city” I was like,,, 😲

[@tvgreent]

Coz you dont wanna do that in 'game' where you can fly your ship around.

[@Leispada]

@@tvgreent You don't always get what you want. Planet Hurston does not allow for it yet. Either you know this, or you don't. Unfortunately he did not.

[@UpperKS]

Yeah I was thinking uh-oh

[@Rodrik18]

@@tvgreent say you have your pilots license and a small aircraft in real life... you might be able to get approval to fly above a certain altitude above a town or city, but you arent gonna be approved to skim the streets and "see if my wings can squeeze between those two highrise buildings". I know its a game, but there are some reasonable limitations

[@JamesBroadus]

You can fly around but you have to clear the spaceports airspace.

[@DionSamuel]

When leaving Lorvillle fly straight up. There is a no fly zone over the city at low altitudes

[@thewok]

I like that they added some choice of starting location, but it was easier to pick stuff up on Port Olisar, I think. I mean, there were issues, but not Lorville autopilot issues.

[@truckerallikatuk]

You mean an autokill zone to prevent you looking too close at the skybox "city"? right?

[@Hitman2b]

@@truckerallikatuk it doesn't kill you first but auto direct you away also there was red line about the no fly zone in early version but remove them for whatever reason

[@jtcbrown]

@@truckerallikatuk City is not a skybox. It is fully rendered, and you can explore it, on foot and by air, just not all parts (though the no-fly zone thing is going to change "at some point" I believe.) And those no-fly zones aren't "hiding" anything, they are supposed to be "immersive" and prevent people from crashing into the (indestructible) buildings, with many arguments as to how necessary that is.

[@peterwarnett]

That doesnt work and blows you up. Not sure why they dont just take it out until it works

[@gregc9344]

As a relatively experienced player coming from elite myself I can say you chose to spawn on one of the 3 hardest places to navigate, Port Olisar used to be the default and it's a small space station so far easier to navigate and none of the no-fly zones you encounter on most planetary stations. With that aside though now you're in Lorville the way to leave is to just go straight up at at least 70-80 degrees and you should easily avoid the spontaneous combustion, also you don't need to go through all the menus to contact the landing services they are default on your leftmost MFD and you can call them by just holding F and clicking the hail button. It was fun seeing someone else experience the game as I did for the first time and I can't wait to see if you give it another go.

[@doclentz3042]

Unfortunately after the introduction of New Babbage in 3.9 (which was what he was the patch he playing 3.9.1 came out yesterday) you can only spawn at NB, Lorville, or A18. Avoid NB it's still a work in progress, Lorvilles autopilot is angry and wont let people go, so A18 is the best bet...just my opinion...

[@mr_confuse]

@@doclentz3042 I've met the Loreville autopilot in my first go in the 3.9 branche and let me tell you... I had explosive amounts of fun through out!

[@doclentz3042]

@@mr_confuse yeah, I've been avoiding Hurston completely. Hear the winds are also a bit too strong and flip ships for the lulz

[@Deva-Jufan]

Standing on the seats - it's the local culture.

[@poposterous236]

The Stanton system is weird. Have you seen the Microtech running ceremony where they liquefy into each other?

[@andrewberg9611]

Flashbacks to freelancer copilot chair

[@Paladin1034]

Apparently the cult of the chair stand is going away soon in an upcoming patch. We'll all miss it.

[@Paladin1034]

This post didn't age well. The chair cult still stands strong.

[@JohnSrptn117]

Welcome to the standing cult! Join us! One of us! One of us!

"Man so desperate he started reading the map"

[@brockoala2994]

The moment he woke up I already went "oh shit not Lorville" lmao!! Seriously D2EA, if you are to try the game again, go to Area 18 or New Babbage, it's gonna blow your mind. Just stay away from Lorville for now, it's bugged and is a dead trap.

[@ThatGuyKazz]

@@brockoala2994 Lorville is the worst landing zone confirmed

[@stevengibson2251]

@@brockoala2994 Thanks a bunch for the info.

[@JacobBatterman]

@@brockoala2994 New Babbage is my favorite landing zone. It's also the most detailed

[@Balion1976]

@@JacobBatterman true, but you really need top tier hardware to get anywhere^^; otherwise train doors don't open or you fall through the city; but the one thing always works: press enter (global chat) and ask anything; you will always get an answer and if you are really stuck, someone will show up and lead you; I had help and therefor repaid it tenfold and most citizen will!

[@artificialbunny]

I have been curious about this game. Looks like I should wait a bit still. The heart attack was hilariously unexpected.

[@NavaNix]

he hit backspace it a way to suicide but he did probably not know that and the game is still alpha

[@nafnist]

@@NavaNix still Alpha... Lol

[@Beer_Dad1975]

@@NavaNix So if you accidentally hit one key, not only that but a key that is in an exposed corner of the keyboard that is quite easy to hit accidentally, you die and respawn at the start? Wow, excellent interface design there...

[@Garryck-1]

@@Beer_Dad1975 - Agreed.. not even an "Are you sure?" first. Hell, I thought programmers knew better than that back in the '80s. But not the ones at CIG, it appears.

[@BornLoserPoker]

@@Beer_Dad1975I have been playing SC for a couple years and have never hit the backspace key

[@douglasvieira610]

When he sayed "going to take a look over the city" i was already shiting my pants of laughing

[@tolga1cool]

Why? Sorry for the ignorance, but that's also what I would have done

[@scribblescrabble3185]

@@tolga1cool and me, too. Thing is the city shown here, Lorville, is clad in a no fly zone and if you get to close the autopilot takes over and should steer your ship out of it. The trouble is, somehow this doesn't work quite right in the no fly zone over Lorville and the auto pilot tends to steer the ship either into the ground or a kill zone. That flaw is well known to most backers, mostly from experience, and thus dsv expected the rapid unplanned disassembly, as did I.

[@ThatGuyKazz]

Same! As so as he started moving forward before he even said anything I was thinking "He's gonna blow himself up with the auto crash zone" As obnoxious as it was I think CIG needs to put the big orange wall of "Oi! fuck off mate!" back at least around the space port entrance or maybe have a menu option in the that lets you swap between that and the newer minimalist warning lines but defaults to the big orange wall.

[@justinkarnes3276]

@@scribblescrabble3185 I'm going to put "rapid unplanned disassembly" into my vernacular.

[@sa80slayer85]

...

[@moonasha]

7:00 you missed the comms panel on the left most MFD ;) the ship displays can all be interacted with

[@darkzide7558]

When your character had a random heart attack and died, I about spit out my coffee! Hahahaha!

[@Zhincore]

Oh no! Monday again!

[@cutco310]

Same 😂😂

[@wettoast8141]

Surprise death happens alot yeah, the floor can suck you to the void as well if you're not careful

[@carloschaparro07]

@@wettoast8141 If you're not careful of what? An invisible hole? That game is broken as f.

[@jtcbrown]

@@carloschaparro07 It is, but it is also quite awesome in those moments that everything works.

[@ashfuller3480]

This is the sort of stuff I want in ED, I remember playing Mace Griffin Bounty Hunter on my PS2 and loving that I could walk around my ship, even Knights of the Old Republic you walk around your ship

[@CoraSeby]

Wait for next year then when we get space legs. That's when I'll also return

[@savmass]

That was so funny, I loved seeing it from a new player's perspective! I hope CIG sees your video and gains some insights into what to improve.

[@GUNNER67akaKelt]

Lorville's air space will be reworked. It was kinda the first iteration of no fly zones. They changed it a bit and made it worse. Yes, it sucks, lol. Try New Babbage on microtech if you want to fly around a city. Much less restrictive.

[@elektra81516]

This game has so much potential, I really hope it reaches that all time goal.

[@OgLockpin]

Definitely has a large learning curve. I fell in love with the game.

[@stevengibson2251]

So, you think its worth the money (investment) even in it's early stages? Also, when his ship blew up, what was the cost of insurance or replacement? He obviously had not earned any credits yet to replace it.

[@OgLockpin]

@@stevengibson2251 The basic game package is 45.00. It's not a completed game and it's buggy as hell, but for me it's been well worth it. I enjoy the game even for what it currently is. The insurance thing isn't implemented in game yet. You simply go to the ship retrieval console and request your ship again. There are free fly events (like all this week) where you can fly ships for free. No purchase necessary. Just make an account, download the game and start flying. Enjoy.

[@stevengibson2251]

@@OgLockpin Robert, thank you very much for the information. Been seriously considering getting Elite Dangerous, but there are several things I don't like about that game. (no insides of ships and space stations for one). Like the looks of SC and the direction the game is going, just unsure about the investment. Even in it's current state does it have enough content to keep your interest?

[@OgLockpin]

@@stevengibson2251 That's a difficult one, it's different for everyone. Some get the basic package and only log in when there's a major update to see what's new. Others give heavily to the game and play frequently. I'm in the later camp still. It's a pretty game so there's plenty to site-see. Quite a few missions to keep you interested for at least a while. Depending on how the latest update is going, the bugs may drive you off for a while. I haven't found lacking content a problem yet but I'm pretty easy to please.

[@ABuriedSynth]

@@stevengibson2251 I'd say it's worth the basic game package, it's a fun experience but it's not even close to become in Beta and right now it's free week till june 2nd so you can play for free !

[@Paladin1034]

I busted out laughing when your character just died in bed. Believe me, we've all been there. Randomly dying is a part of life in SC. Welcome to the 'Verse, D2EA!

[@Rumpullpus]

yeah, you really just got to roll with the punches with this game and just quit for a bit once you've had enough. been there a thousand times.

[@AllTheBeef]

Can't tell you how many times i woke up from the bed with broken legs

[@BigDaddyWes]

Sounds like a terrible game.

[@benschuler3738]

@@BigDaddyWes There are bugs but overall it’s a great game

[@WildOink]

You can actually go in the ships in the showroom, but you will need to aim at the door for F key.

[@Paladin1034]

Can confirm it is possible. It can be an absolute bear to find the door though since the whole ship highlights in the dealership.

[@DJSickey]

if they are trying to reduce amount of interface for sake of "immersion" (like no pointers, maps etc) least they could do is put an AI robot like in Mass Effect in some hallway to guide you when you approach and activate it.

[@whiskeyslider]

@@DJSickey They really need to put a tutorial in. For us old backers as features came online we got to learn them 1 at a time. I cant Imagine trying to learn how to play this game now. Especially with 3.9.x seeing how its a buggy mess.

[@BGIANAKy]

WhiskeySlider they had one but things keep changing so it doesn’t make sense now. I assume they will put one in later.

[@Katojana]

He wants to enter the ship, not pay respect. SMH

[@SirAroace]

An important fact I feel everyone need to know when looking at the Development of Star Citizen is that CIG did not exist at the time the game was first funded. CIG was built from the ground up JUST for SC and most of the early development was spent doing just that.

[@bitmau5]

Star Citizen: Giving players random heart attacks since 2013.

[@Johnnymagnet92]

It's been out that long!? Jesus, that's appalling rate of development

[@Star-Man]

Laniakea2203 you really have to look at the game’s history in order to properly understand why it’s taken so long...

[@wetcat833]

Not to mention the aneurysms. Currently my speech is broken and I have a nasty twitch in my right eye.

[@andreimarius9695]

I'm playing SC from about 3 years, it is very interesting and fun to see new players reaction and how they figure out stuff by themselves. I subscribe for your next SC adventure. Welcome to this verse citizen.

[@madcapmagician3130]

We stand on the seats in a silent moment of appreciation for all the Star Citizen universe has given us.

[@stevengibson2251]

They stand on the seats to avoid the bugs that will suck you into the floor.

[@zToggled]

Star Citizen player here, subbed to see your journey :) I like your fair honest opinions & editing style. Fast and to the point. Excited to see the next one!

[@MalleeMate]

I wish Elite had the varied urban/natural exploration that SC has, the DIY ship customisation of some of those janky-ass voxel games, and the clan and grouping structure of Eve. We've still got a long time to go before we get a fully fledged space game 😔

[@momopirou3107]

and the possibility to hire NPC ships to perform various tasks of an X game.

[@davidmarsh7933]

Fdev actually plan on Incorporating Ground exploration on foot

[@A.Steptoe]

This is the most genuine, first time SC player experience vid ive seen, well done sir, tip me hat to ya o7

[@AngeloReis]

Keep up the good videos. That reminded me of when I fist started Star Citizen as I also came from Elite Dangerous but hang in there as SC has all the elements that I think are missing in ED It is a really good game once you start doing missions and some trading you find it has a lot to offer.

[@alphacentauri3069]

Best way to start in star citizen is enlist the community. Either enlist a guide on the website or just ask in chat for help. Lots of players are happy to help new players learn how to function in the ‘verse. It’s what I love best about the SC community!

[@Leispada]

:D:D omg... You started Lorville , which is easily the worst place. Great retelling of your experiences!

[@MrHepnerd7]

Glad to see more people getting in Star Citizen! I play daily and it has been my favorite game and community since 2012. I definitely recommend watching some new player introductions videos by other Star Citizen KZbinrs. There is a bit of a learning curve as well as how to work around some of the bugs that they are working on.

[@ckob42]

I’ve been watching and playing Star Citizen for the past four years, and can definitely share your frustrations! It’s not very clear for new players, and you have to watch tutorials to figure it out. The game shows tremendous promise though, and is a game that I’m definitely looking forward to, but it requires a lot of patience as the game is still very much in development, and a bit rough around the edges.

[@stevengibson2251]

Chris, in all honestly, do you think they will get the bugs worked out? In your opinion, would it be worth the investment in it's current stage? Is it playable enough to keep your interest over time?

[@cptcarot]

It's very interesting to see the approach of a new player. As a SC backer & owner of Elite myself, I think your comments are to note worthy as the issues you faced are also issues other new players will experience as well. I like your open mindedness and honesty. I have been considering trying ED again with the upcoming Oddesy trailer sparking my interest, but I remember my quick dip before ended in much the same result as you did here. :) Looking forward to future adventures & welcome to the Verse.

[@ValhallasChosen]

ahah I was literally looking for this exact type of video yesterday.

[@NegdoshaManido]

I love SC. Have not had a heart attack in a long time, but other bugs are making play a bit of a....challenge shall we say. Those who have been playing a while have learned how to "work around" various bugs in order to keep playing. It really helps to find someone to help you out as a new player. There is alot to learn. Always fun to see a new player's experience in SC. Brings back memories! : )

[@reeve2222]

Welcome to the verse! You've come on board at a very interesting time, we've just had a big implementation with patch 3.9 and everyone is contending with a whole new host of bugs and issues to sort through and report, but on the plus side, the game is more content rich than its ever been! Sadly, as the focus is on veteran players accessing new features to play test and work through, the new player experience can be lacking. It's definitely a good idea to watch a new player video or two, and don't be shy about asking your fellow players in game for help, we're a friendly bunch!

[@Dammlee]

pretty good insight of what it feels like to start in star citizen! great video , you really feel like being a part of this 'verse, truly something special

[@solidcoal8131]

i love how 90% of star citizen is just walking around

[@AlphaCitizen]

Nice objective video. Note: You may have already learned, but Tool Tips are a life saver for new Citizens. (Escape > Options > Game Controls > Look for Tool tips, set to "yes")

[@Jambotec]

I remember my first play of Elite many years ago and how I panicked the first time i left the space station. I have been playing Star Citizen alpha for about 18 months full time and love it. The game might be about 3 years from being finished and this is when you will probably see a new player guide but for now I recommend playing with someone who has a bit of experience of the game as there are a lot of things which will take a bit of time to get you head around. It is hard to compare this to Elite as they have both have differing areas of brilliance. I still rate Elite as the best VR space game ever!

[@javannapoli2018]

I want to believe 3 years is achievable, but I'm not betting on a release date until it's announced. At least Squadron 42 should be fairly close to release.

[@drakeluxus]

Wow three years from being finished 🤔. I backed the game in 2014 and 6 years on, no official release. Haven't played it in five years and probably never will.

[@Garryck-1]

"3 years from being finished?" Damn.. you're being awfully optimistic. I'd have said 30 years 'til beta.

[@OD-Zee]

@@drakeluxus well if you ever wanted to test it out, you can jump in at anytime. if you have no interest in testing it then i would wait for Open Beta or full retail release

[@Dacialastun]

3 years man? Really?

[@Sciencekeeper]

Nice. Just bought Star Citizen a few weeks ago. Im glad to see you doing videos about it. Good timing. For now my favorite game will stay Elite, though. There is a military installation with no-fly-zone very close to the space port. I think you managed to get right into that. :-)

[@Hitman2b]

we might also get some ship in sales in some few day or month not sure when but soon

[@moonasha]

I started playing elite in october, tried out SC in december... I'm still playing SC when I want to fly spaceships. Even though SC is very far from a finished game it still somehow feels infinitely better than E:D. I can't really explain why but I'd rather deliver packages fedex style in SC than any other activity in E:D. The devlopers of E:D just don't give a flying f about their game and CiG doesl. SC is made with love, you can tell, from the locations to the music.... E:D was just a cash grab that was never updated.

[@Tazytots]

Resident Star Citizen player here, There are No-Fly zones close to Lorville's surface so you want to fly directly upward from where your hangar is before moving off into a direction. Something you don't actually have to deal with as much for the newer cities. Lessons learned by the city creators and such. I appreciate you taking a look around, and while the stability of the most recent patches haven't been great, at least you learned some things and found some others enjoyable. We've still got a fair way to go, but at least it's attracting more attention. Hopefully as we progress, you'll find the time and come check it out again in the future.

[@kyr_taap]

The best and most hilarious review of the new player experience :D I think I'll wait for Dual Universe and the big Elite update next year

[@SirArngrim]

@CMDR Legion To be fair Star Citizen isn't even a game or released game. It is just an alpha started from the beginning of the pipeline. Too bad it wasn't marketed how it should have been, hence the expectations from players buying it. In my opinion, it is an excellent alpha and promising game. But most of the tech isn't yet implemented nor the content.

[@thenauticalnomads2]

CMDR Legion how long ago was it that you played and got a refund? The game runs smoothly in 4K on even my lower spec’d i7 8700 with an GeForce RTX2070 and is as smooth as butter on my i9 9920 extreme rig. Edit: Not refuting your claim, just curious if this was recent or possibly a while back. If recent then maybe ensure it is running from an SSD and that all your drivers are current.

[@OD-Zee]

@CMDR Legion did you have the game on an ssd and was your system overclocked when you tried? because the game not running really seems like a local issue for you. also, did you check the Telemetry page to see how others with similar specs are fairing?

[@tambustarfire1115]

@CMDR Legion You should also note that some of the frames per second issues can be a result of the server you are connected to instead of your own PC.

[@SirArngrim]

@CMDR Legion Yeah mine manage not too bad once in low settings, tweaked and a fresh server. But yeah

[@jbaylor6439]

Hi, that was a great video. As a Star Citizen player/backer/tester, it was interesting to see what it is like for a new player. I started when there was little content and it slowly built up. The crashes are annoying, but I have been lucky to not have many. Others get a lot, so your experience is not unheard of at all. Your ship getting blown up was an air space violation. You should have gotten warning, but in the excitement of finally getting off of the ground you probably missed them. The standing on seats.. it tops my list of things to fix. Anyway, nice video. Hope you try it again. This week is a free fly week, so anyone can try it for free and fly some of the big ships.

[@lucaszecat]

Is it more stable since your last comment ?

[@jtcbrown]

"It's an alpha" :D Once you do actually learn the basics, there is some good gameplay, but, yeah, bugs abound. Ships are gorgeous, planets are gorgeous, cities are MASSIVE and gorgeous. Combat is intense and fun and challenging, with the added bonus of the occasional random ship explosion. There is a lot in this game you just won't find elsewhere, mostly the combo of good FPS gameplay and good space sim gameplay, literally disable a ship and then board it and shoot up the place :D That said, many, many games do either of those things much better. I don't care for Elite:Dangerous, myself, but it is a solid space sim and obviously plays much more stable than SC. I don't blame anyone for not handling the bugs. Just also don't judge overly harshly on that. The "perpetual dev hell" is also a problem. I'm happy to be patient, but... yeah.

[@MonteKristof]

And yet, even in this state, leaps and bounds better than ED.

[@austinm5630]

@@MonteKristof It's leaps and bounds better the instant you leave your chair. Up until that point, they're extremely similar. If nothing else, SC proves beyond a shadow of a doubt why everyone who doesn't want space legs in Elite is a flaming idiot. *cough*Yamiks*couch*

[@austinm5630]

@They should have never given me internet Yeah sure all that. Now I'm going back to mining agricium in my Prospector so I can buy a Deadbolt V cannon from one of the 12 weapon shops in the game to put on my Vanguard Sentinel so the next time I fight a Caterpillar cargo ship I can get some damage past its shields. Oh shit that sounds like actual gameplay! *gasp* Yes, SC is absolutely not where it should be after 7 years of development, but everyone I know who plays went into this with eyes wide open. If you have no faith that it'll get there, I'd recommend just buying the $60 starter pack and enjoy it for what it is. Or just avoid it entirely, like I did until I checked in last October and saw it actually had enough gameplay, finally, to sink several dozen hours into. Or you can keep telling yourself they sell $2,000 JPEGs, collect your free reddit karma, and remain ignorant. Your call.

[@Otakahunt]

​@They should have never given me internet There actually was a legit research by someone about SC being a ponzi scheme and the result was that if it was one... it was the worst attempt at one in history. xD Also SC has one of the most transparent development in the gaming industry with weekly update videos and articles on the site. And why did you link starbase? looks like a childrens game and nothing like what SC is going for... i guess you havent played SC either since you think its p2w and has no stakes and joy. I guess being blown up (by pirates) during a cargo haul has no stakes even tho you just spent money on buying the cargo and your intention was to sell it somewhere else.... or how bout doing higher pay bounty-missions for criminal organizations which will give you crimestat and then a bounty mission will be made about YOU and if you die near police/bounty hunter you end up in prison. Thats not even imagination, its some gameplay you can actually do right now.

[@aguspuig6615]

@They should have never given me internet here we can see the common hater who uses no real arguments

[@CTTechGaming]

I had the same experience this year, you can hit the menu on the display panels in the ship and choose comms there which I like to do for the immersive feel. you can also look around the ships on display in the dealerships but you have to get close enough to the doors that they turn orange then you can interact with them

[@Spideryote]

I will never complain about E.D being broken Ever again

[@Jaco_Schutte]

How did that work out for you, by the way?

[@Spideryote]

@@Jaco_Schutte pffffffffffffffft

[@hakudragone6848]

This is by far the most pure and innocent new player video I have ever seen regarding star citizen. Great Video!

[@PromethorYT]

I just started playing this game a few days ago myself... But my experience was very different. I spawned at PO, a big ship i dont know the name decided to ram me on the pad while I was figuring out the controls. My ship got bugged because of it. I had to Spawn the Freelancer since I could no longer use or recall my Avenger. Got to another station to recall my Avenger (its a fix). A guy was nice and showed me the ropes of mining in caves, and some combat in his turrets. Then I got stuck in Lorville, the spaceport was bugged because of the ''wind'' pushing my ships into walls. The next day I was still bugged in Lorville because the trains were bugged I could not reach the spaceport anymore. That mixed with exploding in the air randomly and 10+ other bugs and crashes, I quickly uninstalled the game. I know I can reset my character from the website. But It was too annoying an experience. I'll have to wait a few more game versions before I try it again.

[@andrewberg9611]

The duplicate trains bug is a server side issue, swapping server by quiting to menu is a quick fix. Evocati is reporting that they've practically removed the wind around the spaceports themselves to stop that. It really is annoying, even more so if you're trying to fly in with expensive cargo. I'd say try it again during fleet week, and avoid Hurston as a whole.

[@PromethorYT]

@@andrewberg9611 I re-installed the game 2 days ago to give it another go after reading some info on those bugs. I had a good time mostly, still lots of crashes especially at peak time, fps drops, server dc etc. But the wind problems seems resolved for now. Yesterday in the evening it was unplayable for me got frustrated after an hour of issues without being able to even complete a single run without crashes and dc's. But I made about 90k so far going in mines mining rocks in about 4-5 trips. (I started at 5k). The game is fun, when everything works, its just a bit frustrating when you travel somewhere start doing something and it crash and then you don't even respawn in your ship but all the way back to the station. And you need to claim your ship on top of that (when it works).

[@austinm5630]

Not calling you a liar or anything, but the Redeemer isn't in the game so...yeah. Maybe you mean a Reclaimer? The big salvage ship? EDIT: Either way, I'd give it another try tomorrow. The 3.9.1 patch is going to fix a LOT of bugs in 3.9.0 (including the excessive wind) and during Fleet Week there will be several ships you can rent and fly for free. If you're ever gonna try it again, the next week starting tomorrow is the time.

[@snowblood4408]

@@austinm5630 im sensing some fishy stuff to since u cant spawn at Port Ollisar as a new Player anymore...

[@PromethorYT]

@@austinm5630 I mean im new, the ship isnt the redeemer then... its the big one with 4 arms turrets.

[@Umbator]

You can request the un-docking from that left most screen on your ship as well, to avoid going through the other menus. You can also change what is displayed on each panel in the ship so can put what data reads outs where you want them :)

[@richardswede]

Been meaning to try get into this game, after 4 years in ED. so if you ran a beginners guide, i would defo watch.

[@used2venom]

ditto

[@TheDeadgedd]

here is a one from a big SC youtuber but i will say the 3.9 patch is not stable kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZnWVYWOenJyXppI

[@Gallagher068]

3.9 stability is being worked on right now, there will be a free fly event later this month in theory where you can hop in and try for yourself, just be warned that "it's an alpha" and they're sometimes making as many new bugs with updates as they're fixing. That being said, I fucking love it

[@HeloHounds]

Star Citizen, BoredGamer and Noobifier1337 KZbin channels come to mind for new player guides and I highly recommend watching them to give a new player an idea of the base mechanics at the moment.

[@olliewray1197]

Got watch ‘bored gamer’ for that

[@chappy2780]

I really like the detail and potential of star citizen. Being new to elite dangerous I love the complete feeling of this game. They both have strong areas and weak points. I love the immersion of star citizen. Walking around the space port makes me feel like I’m navigating a real airport.

[@Silv3rDragon]

Every time with the merch store "rap" i find myself bobbing my head to the beat.

[@mcastro550]

You can absolutely go into those ships in the store. You have to move closer to the door of the ship and the contextual button will change from “buy” to enter ship.

[@clark1066]

Okay, I am so glad to see this game actually making progress. I feel like this is going to be a top notch game in a few years. As it damn well should be, but I can't wait.

[@Dacialastun]

In a few years? How many? 10?

[@smithexem]

@@Dacialastun Robert has a son, right? I guess he'll finish it in his 40s. So at least 30 years more and we'll be ready for a beta!

[@AZ-Drone]

Definitely would like to see more! In the meantime I’m saving up for a fleet carrier in Elite. Out in Colonia so the LTDs aren’t paying as well.

[@thefailmaster1516]

I lost it when the random heart attack happened 😂

[@denster1991]

Come a long way since the "here is your ship in a garage you can look around but not fly" Its come a long way in 8 years but it looks like it will be a few more before its ready.

[@cutco310]

The random heart attack made me spit out my drink 😂😂💀

[@rideonaus]

Really good video D2EA! I enjoyed watching your ED videos back when I was playing that and it's good to see a familiar face trying out Star Citizen! As a few people have pointed out, you picked one of the toughest starting locations in the game and I bet your experience would be a whole lot different if you picked Microtech - New Babbage instead. This game does really require one to go through the beginner's guides that are available in the game launcher under FAQ as they cover everything you need to get started and enjoy the game quickly. It's so easy to make mistakes, die and have to start over which is why it's important for anyone starting out in this game to take the time to read the guides and watch the videos that CIG themselves have put out. Hope you aren't discouraged and look forward to seeing you around in the verse!

[@kessilrun6754]

Elite and SC started their "previews" at the same time, in 2014. It's amazing how far Elite has gone. It launched, for all intents and purposes, a complete game. It just didn't tell you, at the time, where to go, how to fly, what to do etc. But FDev did push out a load of KZbin based tutorials, which now is no longer needed, since the game starts you in a starter system and has a refined tutorial system. A sort of newbie area that experienced players are permit locked out of, in order to prevent griefers from harassing the new blood. A brilliant idea. The only thing Elite needs? To complete the SC experience? Is space legs. That's it. We've already had SRVs, really large ships, the Xeno (aliens), and an entire 1:1 recreation of our galaxy and a pretty solid mission system since launch. Well, aliens came 2 years later, but still. Legs are rumoured to be appearing, possibly, by 2021, with the New Era update...in going off of some of the FDev teased internal powerplant/ ship pictures. But that's speculation. I'm afraid once legs do come? It will be light years ahead of SC. Pun intended. I mean for all intents and purposes FDev has had their sh** together. At least by comparison. Sure, FDev has delayed carriers and other content by 3 years, which we're now only just getting, but they've had a fully functioning title since preview. Elite launched in a preview state that was a almost 100 times more refined and complete than SCs current Alpha even. Sure SC launched with space legs, but at what cost? Not having more than one system to explore? Not having a smooth and reliable mission system? Regular progress wipes? Elite players have had the same funds, unlocks, content and all ranking and reputation progress since day one. Meaning, unless there was some unimaginably game breaking bug? Nobody lost progress. Sure, people got bored of the experiences, like exploring and doing the same mission types, but that happens in any game. There was always at least an ecosystem, reputation system, naval rank, combat, trade and exploration levels, mining etc.

[@theduke1337]

And they did it with a fraction of the money.

[@idiocracynow6484]

@@theduke1337 ED certainly looks like it has a fraction of the money to develop new content at a good pace :P.

[@frogray7929]

That's because Elite, in it's release state, is suppose to be a game. If you buy SC right now and expect a fully playable game, you're a fool. It's not just an alpha game, it's also in an alpha development stage.

[@mikedimimd]

The seat standing part..... hahahahaha. You are my favorite content contributor period. Great vid

[@lordwontner3936]

Omg I'm dying laughing welcome to star citizen

[@strawberry-parfait3922]

The start is really rough for new players since there is no tutorial in the alpha. It also used to start you at port olisar as a new player wich was a much easier splace to do your first steps since it was a simple space station. If you ever manage to get off the planet make sure to land there so it gets saved as your respawn point and you dont need an hour every time you want to get to your spaceship.

[@MartinFeatherstone]

This tedium is why I dgaf about space legs in Elite Dangerous.

[@mbelow]

I want a Ten Forward on FCs so we can gamble creds and play various games against other commanders docked.

[@Pretagonist]

I'd like to be able to go to some areas like a bar, a trading station, the cargo bay and so on but I have no interest in having to wait for trains and elevators. More like early mass effect than a completely open world would be great. Trying to cram an fps game into elite dangerous is completely idiotic.

[@tfishr]

I'm optimistic Frontier understands this and will make it fun not just check a box. For instance, FSS and SRVs. Could have been a tedious chore but they're kinda fun. Core mining is an interesting puzzle. Each activity they've added they've managed to turn into a mini-game. I'm hoping "space legs" is the same. Not the way SC has done it.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Meanwhile there's not much to do with planets in elite dangerous, but star citizen planets have exploration, mining, missions and trading.

[@_rustyxnails]

@@mbelow this is the best argument I've heard so far for space legs!

[@seanjohnson3920]

If you have not been told or stumbled across yet, you can use ships MENU UI---->Comms Button will get you to landing or launching from stations as well. I find it usually faster than using MobiGlass on arm. Especially when you have time to put COMMS up on ships panel beforehand. You will see terminals come up as soon as you get in distance while still flying.

[@larryhorton8384]

I can't wait until this game gets finished and my great grandchildren come visit me at my grave and tell me how awesome it is 👌

[@SirAroace]

dude development is speeding up, you have to remember CIG was like 4 people in a house when it was first crowdfunded, most of the past "dev" time on this game was building a company and multiple studios from the ground up.

[@jomo3564]

12 developpers in 2012 345 devs in 2015 600+ devs in 2020 Peoples talk shit about SC but don't know the whole picture.

[@rocksummit3375]

Thank you for the tour. I've been holding off on it until it's more finished and havent really felt an itch to try it yet. This was most appriciated and I suspect your hour spent saved me half an hour when I try it.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

If you hold of until the end of the year, we'll probably have a new star system released.

[@Garryck-1]

@@JohnFromAccounting - and if we hold on until mid-century, the game will probably finally go into beta.

[@Zentrify]

@@Garryck-1 You have achieved comedy.

[@Zentrify]

Be on the lookout for free fly when the 3.9.1 patch launches.

[@frbie11]

I have about 700 hours in ED but once I tested SC I couldn't go back to ED. The space legs feeling were so immersive to me... Wait until you have bigger ships with swimming pools and seamlöess integration between space delivery, combat and FPS missions. It is buggy, yes. But I love it in spite of this. And yes, please make more videos about SC as a newcomer. I would love to see them. But aware - if you become criminal - you'll find yourself in a real prison ;))))

[@deadeye0791]

I have been a backer of Star Citizen/Squadron 42 since 2014 and every time I'd jump in to check it out, this was the same sort of experience I would have. One weekend early this year I decided I was going to figure it out. I spent all of my available play time working through the bugs and nuances and really started enjoying it. I have put over a hundred hours in since then. While there isn't a lot in the game yet and it is full of bugs, especially in the current patch, it is so immersive that I can't help but enjoy playing it. I actually haven't touched Elite since I dug in to SC. I love Elite, so that was a big surprise to me.

[@electricityisaghost4644]

EvE Online tried to have station walking, it was a massive failure. Elite Dangerous has an amazing character creator, but as of yet you cannot walk around and exit your ship, walk in stations etc. No Mans sky has it, but it isn't exactly a "sim". You get in you ship, take off with a single button. Easy peasy. No hardcore or realistic option/mode for that game. Star Citizen might be the first to accomplish this if it ever works. I have high hopes for the game, but I have no P.C. that could run it. They have so many ships, ship boarding, fps combat.. But will the game have content? A story? Lore?

[@splaxy8116]

starcitizen.tools/Historical_timeline Is a start at the lore and for a story, star citizen squadron 42 is it but not released and more content is always being worked on, but VERY slow unfortunatly.

[@Bat0541]

Well you have until the games release in 2052 to get a PC that can run the game.

[@MKhrome]

The reason why EVE's station walking was a failure was because CCP is a shit developer. Elite is getting spacelegs in early 2021 with the new expansion if the info we got is correct (with ~100 developers). NMS is made by a team of 25 people, so that it's even compared to a game with 300m funding and 500 developers is a pretty big compliment to them :) Star Citizen's window of opportunity is closing very, very quickly. It'll look very bad on CIG if multiple other games 'get there first'. CIG is IMHO focusing too much on details and selling JPEG's, they should have had a vertical gameplay slice of the entire planned game 3-4 years ago already. Roberts is way too engrossed in his hollywood fantasy.

[@aarobriggs2665]

@@MKhrome I totally agree with that. Instead making a solid game base, polish and publish it, robert get lost in details an he'll probably fail with that. Anyway, i bought a cutless black game package and i really have lot of fun with the game even in that early stage. Of course there are lot of bugs and at some days i even wasn't been able to log in, that game already make me fall in love with. There is lot of content and much things to explore, i didn't regret the buy at all.

[@philbrown8181]

A nice and well balanced view. Thanks for taking the time to make and share.

[@SadButter]

200 million dollars, 8 years and this is what we have. Go figure.

[@WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot_YT]

Cool, can you name a game that does the same exact thing Star Citizen is doing?

[@satanspy]

And its doing way more than what Elite Dangerous is

[@SadButter]

@@satanspy except it's not doing shit until it's released

[@satanspy]

@@SadButter Its already in its unfinished state doing more than ED. Thats a fact. Odyssey will not save ED.

[@SadButter]

@@satanspy honestly I don't even care for Odyssey. I've spent nearly 1000 hours in Elite already and I'd be fine if Elite "died" in the next year or two. In my mind Elite Dangerous has had an entirely adequate lifespan of a game already, and that's before Star Citizen has even released so what does that tell ya. My bet is Star Citizen isn't ever going to be even released for all the faffing about its devs been doing this time. They just seemingly want to keep cramming new shit in it forever before they actually even release it in a playable state.

[@jeremylowe1091]

I have been playing Star Citizen for a couple of years now and I love watching new player experiences in the game. This video was pretty well done and exposes some of the issues CIG will need to work on in the future when it is closer to being complete. Having said that this game has such amazing ability and will be something not seen before but it is not ready yet and it will take longer even though it is "playable" now.

[@spo0keyg452]

if u can deal with bugs this game is great

[@grahamfenech9647]

Hey welcome to the "experience"! Its not a game yet, but it doesnt make it any less fun. I would always recommend getting someone to show you the ropes the first time as it can be quite a lot to take it on your own running around aimlessly. If you dont know anyone or you're not up for socialising, there are a lot of great videos out there giving new players a guiding hand with where to start, what to do, how to do it. In any case, fun to see a new player perspective :)

[@meandnoother]

7:42 "I'm still not 100% sure why.." Spaceship: WARNING: RESTRICTED AREA AHEAD WARNING: RESTRICTED AREA BELOW

[@Rumpullpus]

take it easy on brah, it took him half an hour just to read some signs, gonna be another half an hour before he starts listening to the bitchin betty haha.

[@walther007]

At 6:26, you'll see the screen on the left, where it shows Lorville Landing Services, select the "wi-fi" symbol and it will call the Air Control tower from that. Your "mobi-glass" on your arm is the alternate. You want to call the ATC whenever you land or take off to avoid accidental fines. Hitting the Menu tab from any window in a ship will take you to the Comms channel, that way you can move displays where ever you want them.

[@mathieua.7169]

Dude, nothing happened. I was interested in knowing what you think about the flight controls, the spacefaring/dogfighting experience, also maybe atmosphere flight and opinion on the look and feel of the planets/moons/space venues from your perspective. I learnt none of that. A shame that I had to watch 10 minutes to realise. Please do some more content next time, I would really love to hae your thoughts and perhaps a comparison between your experience in Star Citizen and Elite Dangerous. Thanks !

[@TheDill0n]

you can check out the inside of the ships in the dealership, just have to find the door to click on. There's a coms screen on one of the monitors in your cockpit too. The auto pilot zones are awful. Really liked the video we need more like this to show the simple flaws that block new players from getting anywhere.

[@nukezat]

The game is an amazing concept, but the execution was overly ambitious.

[@andrewlawlor7678]

I have to say that as a gamer one of the first things I do is look at control bindings for keys etc. I find that half the beginner info you need can be gleaned right there.

[@SolidSativa1]

Did you happen to find a sign saying when this games is getting released ?

[@loldoctor]

Hahahahahahahahahaha

[@larryhorton8384]

Ohhh burn!!!

[@steponthatcorn169]

I been a backer now 2 years heard 2040.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

No date even close, but in its current state there's still a full games worth of content.

[@neutchain7838]

What do you mean ? It's 2015 mate. nearly six years and 300 millions later its alpha 3.x Another half a billion and we might see something by the time humanity has a "persistent" colony on Mars.

[@FrederickIII]

In case you weren’t aware, you can control how fast you or your ship move with mouse wheel. When doing this in your ship, on the left of your hud a meter will go up and down. On this meter is a little red bar. If you are above this red bar the maneuverability of your ship suffers.

[@wC0ZbyvipM7]

yes the tram ride is pretty cool, until you realize you have to do it every time your ship randomly explodes, or drops you out in space, or just decides to disappear. and you have actually scratched about 90% of what the game has to offer right now.

[@vatanz8671]

What a dumb and salty comment

[@wC0ZbyvipM7]

@Lio L fucking lmao

[@javannapoli2018]

You can change where you spawn, go to port Olisar, much better place to spawn.

[@geoDunkleAura]

@@javannapoli2018 no you can't spawn at Port Olisar anymore as a new player. not even as an old player after wipe.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Fly up to the nearest space port and you won't spawn in the city any more.

[@j.d.4697]

Your experience describes what's so fascinating about SC. You often have to approach it with a real-life mindset instead of a game-mindset and all the areas where that's not the case are being worked on to become just as realistic. And by the way, SC in the latest patch has improved 10-fold since 2020.

[@barryarmstrong5232]

There is 300 million dollars of money invested in this game, and this is the experience.

[@wetcat833]

I feel that half that money is from me ,,Feeling foolish.

[@deadheadfred896]

If this were a finished product, I would wholeheartedly agree. Thankfully it's still being actively worked on and I prefer to take the wait and see approach. I'll make an assessment of its quality when it's deemed "finished" or the studio goes belly up. For now, I remain hopeful. Development, however slow it may be at times, is constantly progressing and the studio is staying financially afloat. If that means that I eventually get even 25% of the game that was promised with nothing more the $45 entry fee asked, that's an experience no development studio has offered me. Seems like a decent $45 spent

[@barryarmstrong5232]

@@deadheadfred896 I agree some of it looks impressive, and a "wait and see" approach is fine, but how long do you have to wait? It's been 8 (!) years now?

[@Spitfire-zx7rj]

@@barryarmstrong5232 I mean u dont really have to wait.. unless u already spent money back when the game was supposed to be released years ago

[@qpSubZeroqp]

I enjoyed your perspective This is what I love about Star Citizen. It's so like real life and it doesn't try to hold your hand to show you around. Squadron 42 will be the theme park experience like call of duty single player campaign and Start Citizen persistent universe is the sandbox, open world, multiplayer side of it

[@wesschaffran9088]

ED didn't have any of that until recently. I had to watch a ton of videos, including yours, to learn how to do everything in ED. It's the same with star citizen. I've only played ED for a year and had an easy time starting start citizen about a month ago. It's not that difficult as you made it seem in your video. I'm sad to say that this is the first video of yours I have downvoted.

[@skylark159]

Welcome to the Verse! There are the in game tips but those are mostly for controls. Yeah as an alpha there is not a lot of in-game tutorials. They had one at one point but it became out dated. Love your content over the years and I'm excited and curious to see what you think of SC as \ if you continue to explore.

[@indolerocks2381]

Man, stay with Elite, although it's an older game, I think it's much better realized than SC would ever be. I started with SC and switched to playing ED and I can finally have fun! Few issues of the top of my head, believe me there are much more!)The flight model in SC is atrocious and literally has been changed twice, at least since I backed the game. Dogfighting is a joke, back in a day it was much better, now it's just dumb down cows on ice. Mining mechanics have potential but for some reason are not fully implemented.Quantum travel, equivalent of FSD mechanics in Elite is just stupid simple. Overheating mechanic is dogshit.Despite what CIG claims the game is shallow and lacks content. The roadmap gets gutted all the time, so no reason to check it. CR will claim that it is because they are working on a single player Sq 42 but that's a poor excuse to make the backers feel better. Honestly, SC had a great potential to be the "best damn space sim ever" but that time has passed. I am very sad to see that happen, I hope by some miracle they can pull through but the window of opportunity is getting smaller with every patch.

[@TheDaxNagtegaal]

Really looking forward to future SC videos. I think this game and its vision, however incomplete, represent the game I've always wanted to play. We need a few more core technologies to be developed, namely the "iCache" and "server meshing"... Once we can put hundreds or even thousands of players on the same instance, and have object permanence across the entire universe on every server (you'll be able to drop a cup in a forest, fly away, and someone else could find it where you left it months or even years later) the game will be (in my opinion) incredible. The Pyro solar system is coming too. I couldn't be more excited, and I'm happy to see more and more people joining us on the awkward and buggy alpha journey to greatness.

[@steezydan8543]

No offense but I wouldn't get my hopes up if I were you. You literally just wrote out a list of things the game does wrong and haven't fixed yet. The game is almost ten years old. If they haven't gotten their shit together and developed a finished product by now you know they're just milking the fans for money at this point. In short, it crashes all the, it looks bad because of how unoptimized it is and it's got all those problems you just pointed out. Save your money.

[@TheDaxNagtegaal]

@@steezydan8543 ok skeptic, I'm well aware of the development time :) How long has Cyberpunk 2077 been in development? Star Citizen has a much larger scale, they needed (and still need) to develop non-existent tech for this game, it takes time, and what was promised is still being worked on. I see no milking here, they have hundreds of developers working on the game.

[@svendtang5432]

When you do this train ride for the zillions time when shot by a random pirate for the zillions time its really not the way y want to play.. im sorry.. its the same with ED's in system travel to the far binary systems

[@originalgameronline3457]

You don't do that. That's just because that's his spawn point. You can choose your spawn points. And on some ships you can just spawn on the ship again. You don't have to do what he did. o7

[@JohnFromAccounting]

If your spawn point is at a space station it takes 20 second to get to the ship spawn area.

[@SETHthegodofchaos]

Very interesting video with a fair feedback as well! I would love to see more of this! I would love to see a part two (or three ;D) where you fly into orbit and explore other planets or even do some simple missions.

[@Beer_Dad1975]

I don't mean to be a hater, but to me it seems objectively clear that this game does not represent over 7 years of continuous development and hundreds of millions of dollars invested. I think you'd have to have money in this thing to still be hopeful it'll ever be more than a flashy tech demo at this point.

[@svendtang5432]

I totally agree, although I really want them to succeed, they are an excellent example of Not adhering to the software dev paradigms of stop starting, start finishing.

[@Pubturtle]

This vid is a very poor representation of the game as a whole. I suggest checking out a free fly weekend when there is one. But definitely look up some tutorials first. CS id designed in such a way that it’s more “sim like”. Going in blind like this is not the best idea.

[@danielpedro77]

You said millions of dollars?? Really???

[@Beer_Dad1975]

@@Pubturtle It's still really impressive & beautiful, it's just not as impressive when you realise they have spent so much time and money on it - and then you get the crazy play to win ship costs, with some ships costing thousands of dollars, and it just appears to me as an outsider that CG have a working business model to extract cash from their investors, and now have no actual interest in making a finished game.

[@jomo3564]

That's a pretty unfair statement when you see all the technologies they built from nothing. And all the ships can be rent or paid in game. After the release, they will sell cosmetic/customisations instead of ships.

[@vkotis]

If you treat it as though it were real and apply logic to the different environments then it all immediately makes sense. Good video!

[@davekennedy6315]

Even after all of these years, all of the money Star Citizen is still a shambles. I think the only chance this game has in getting an actual release is if someone else buys it and takes over, Chris Roberts is renowned for terrible money and time management and SC has followed in that same mould (just like Freelancer, Roberts film production company and that awful joke Wing Commander movie)

[@RS250Squid]

Maybe post-lockdown, we will need to all stand on the seats while waiting for our trains.

[@FN1980a]

@7:10 you can also call landing services via the MFD (the physical displays in the cockpit, the app looks like a wifi symbol). Tho if you got a long friendslist you need to scroll all the way to the bottom to see the call button.

[@spelkult]

Thanks for sharing. This was actually really fun to watch. Please do more!

[@silus73]

You could have also just asked questions in chat. The Star Citizen community is one of the friendliest in gaming by far. There is always someone online more then happy to explain any question you may have, many will even gladly come party with you and help you get started. There is also the Registered Guide system that pairs new players with Veterans who volunteer to help robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/guide once signed in all anyone has to do is ask.

[@buhatkj]

My first play session went almost the same as yours! I didn't take off my ship though, by then I was interrupted by life and had to quit. Haven't gotten back to it yet, but I can see potential here, but man is it ever rough. There is so many key bits still missing, so many half broken game systems, even just in the first session, the new player experience. This is a game that despite all these years I'd say is still a LONG way from finished.

[@Jenna_Talia]

It seems so organic to have actual signs and transport to get to places, rather than some waypoint or NPC you have to follow.

[@jinxatron]

Id love to see you play more of this, was interesting to see you figuring things out and your thoughts on the matter.