Star Citizen - Hornet MK2 F7C Tracker & Ghost - First Look

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[@ChornStar42]

I think the Tracker should have been on the Super Hornet chasis, with the second person as the radar operator... doing radar things in the middle of combat.

[@DevilSaviour]

Dig that idea.

[@nathanpark6134]

That would be awesome, especially for running patrols through asteroid belts. Just like modern naval jets

[@maddogs1989]

I mean who says you can't do that with just the regular Super hornet.

[@Blindside337]

@@maddogs1989 the top cap says sooo! *Hulk Hogan voice* it is all powerful and decides all in Hornet land :D well the most, the front turret swappability hopping around to/from different variants is frustrating. Glad they didn't wait to remove the ability to swap a dual s3 nose until post-sale. Owners thinking they had a stealthy F7a essentially would've been very disappointed. ...on the cap, a 2 man super hornet without a turret would be quite boring for the passenger like an Antares. I do like the idea of enhanced scanning for the gunner, would give Supers a reason to be flown over a Scorp/Hurricane

[@Alopen-xb1rb]

Nope. Both the F-14 and F-4 with their REOs are obsolete in 2024. That would just ruin a perfectly good ship ala the Scorpius Antares. Gunning can be interesting reading radar would be boring fast and then the ship would be gimped later.

[@trekie82]

I've seen a video with the mk1 ghost, with the proper loadout and power management was invisible on radar up until under 2km. There is a lot of potential for these ships if done right.

[@SpaceDad42]

FoxyLoxy no doubt

[@trekie82]

@SpaceDad42 you got it!

[@DrunkWisdom69]

I'm hoping having a tracker works as a counter to stealth, giving a wing of fighters an advantage in having a diversity of different fighters, kinda like a game of rock paper scissors

[@philippr.1784]

​@@DrunkWisdom69 makes sense

[@Buggsy1061]

I always felt the Tracker should be the two seater with a dedicated RIO operating the Rader and pinging targets to wingmen

[@thediadect8914]

Good luck finding someone willing to do that.

[@xVoidCypher]

RIO?

[@Buggsy1061]

@@xVoidCypher Radar Intercept Officer, don't really need em nowadays with fighters becoming so computer based, but the were common in 4th gen fighters

[@15jsoliven]

@@xVoidCypher In Top Gun it's the person that sits behind the pilot. Goose was an RIO.

[@sharpknifetv]

Always said this, They seriously missed a trick with this

[@r92871]

The tracker would be good if you could share locks. So have a tracker get a lock on something and have a bomber torp it from further out

[@itsnullcraft]

Ive heard a rumor thats going to be a thing

[@r92871]

@itsnullcraft please. Cig. Battlezone data sharing is a literal current thing. Please let out pur future space ship game do it

[@cnolan1290]

100% agree small ships in big hangars should be closer! Would also be nice to be able to spawn multiple ships at once, provided they all fit on the pad together. Similar to how cargo is working.

[@xugans99]

I don't necessarily want small fighters to have too short of a range. If they are trying to imitate Star Wars style flying they need to keep in mind that Luke went everywhere in his X-wing

[@PEN0311]

Stealth mechanic are functional as of the last build. Balanced? No. OP? Yep. Scanning is functional as well and works in conjunction with Stealth.

[@jbirdmax]

Hmm good to know. Thanks. 🙏

[@UnpluggedCord]

A stealth mk1 hornet ghost can show as "Unidentified" from 6km out and only "target lock" able once closer than about 1.4km if the enemy is a light fighter. Meanwhile you can see the enemy fighters as far as 15km out. 😅 Seems decent for popping missiles and strafing still undetected for a disorienting approach. By the time they can actually lock you it's probably too late.

[@paulyskidda387]

Does the tracker actually scan better or further?

[@PEN0311]

I have not tested the Tracker specifically but I did rest the Zeus ES which has an S3 radar vs the Trackers S2. With the ES, I was able to detect light fighters at 20fm. I tested the Cutter Scouts D2 and it only trashed out to 15 km on a light fighter. Stealth craft can close the range as close as 1.5 km.

[@Alex7ati]

I guess now I got to make a Lego Stealth and Tracker version to go with my lego F7A

[@SpaceDad42]

Just take a hobby knife to the edges.

[@MrEsphoenix]

I'm hoping they have a bit of depth to stealth. A dedicated military stealth design like the Sabre should be top of the class, followed by military adapted designs like the ghost hornet, which have cutting edge tech, but were adapted for stealth rather than built from the ground up, followed by civilian stealth specific designs if we ever get one of those, and finally civilian stealth modifications such as the Razor EX, which should be more stealthy than regular ships in "stealth mode", but not in the same league as something like the Sabre.

[@d3lineator]

this. make the raven more than just a collectors item

[@orsonsaviour]

I never liked the Hornet before, but I’ve changed my mind - it’s looking a lot better now.

[@elcockroach7328]

Cool ships, I am just not sure whether they bring any additional benefit when compared to the "regular" F7C Mk 2 at the moment. Nonetheless, all fighters are a clear "buy ingame" for me.

[@jbirdmax]

Completely agree bro.

[@jbirdmax]

Love your name By the way.

[@elcockroach7328]

@@jbirdmax Thx mate! ;-)

[@itsnullcraft]

Let me break it down for you, the ups of the other variants are: F7A bigger guns, better missles, a little more chonky on the HP but a little slower. F7C-S a stealth ship with a stealth bonus that will allow it to creep up on people. Still same guns and missles like the F7C and its HP pool seems to be a little lower. F7C-R a tracking ship built with a way better radar, you will have the ability to see ships and contacts way farther away, and possibly in the future be able to share that data with other ships so you can help cordinate attacks. Are they worth pledging? If you love the ships and dont want to have to rebuy it when 1.0 drops, yes. If you dont care for it too much then they are pretty cheap ingame and probably wont be above 8mil UEC and those prices are going to change in the future.

[@sharpknifetv]

Tracker will also share its Radar data with squad mates, So will basically be an AWACS system

[@yozzerhughes1623]

Would be good to choose a spawn spot. Also the ghost will make more sense in SQ 42...

[@shadow910977]

i had the mk i ghost down to sub 3km detection, and if i rmember right it was about 1.2km with everything turned off....getting behind your target, flashing everything on and then unloading the ballistic repeaters into them....pricelessssss

[@Ryecrash617]

I started thinking about upgrading from my Gladius to the Hornet MK2 when it was introduced but I take a very long time to make decisions like that. Now that I'm close to making a decision, CIG adds two more options for me to contemplate.

[@jshreyer]

I didn’t really like the hornet series until the Mk2 came out. The F7A Mk2 will be my go to medium fighter I think. Hopefully we get more skins for it!

[@ENTIAComics]

It is very interesting how these Hornets are almost... Modular with their swappable middle parts and mountable nose turrets! Will be fun to test them during IAE!

[@tobinplomp5223]

I think the disk on top of the tracker should rise up a bit when the landing gear is raised that would be very cool.

[@thenonadventure]

What role does a MK1 Hornet like the FC7-M play now that MK2 variants are available?

[@TheWartimeCEO]

I just love the sound of the afterburner on the Hornets, such a punch.

[@UFMastodon]

I like the ghost a lot. The last ghost was my go to ship for years. Hoping this one is good. Would love a super hornet mk2.

[@grumbles42]

Love the paint job on these Hornets

[@CosmicTurtle13]

I absolutely love the Mk2 Hornet design style. The old one just wasn't it with the way the intakes looked like they could suck through a whole cow, and their angle just made no sense to me. Now it's all sleek and sharp angles.

[@starshifter1]

I kinda wish the would make similar variants for other ships. I also wish they would give some more TLC to existing ships that sorely need it.

[@starkreality2704]

When you say that stealth is not in game, what is the expected feature? I know ships with lower emissions, they do not show up on the scanner until you are closer and in combat you can lose targeting if you get too far from them.

[@jesseschworm8153]

What is the real difference besides stock loadouts and components on the MK2 Hornets? Kinda the same with the MK1 in that they could all be the same ship if kitted out properly right? The MK2 Ghost does look like the center might not be swappable though. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[@tomsittler1791]

I've always had a soft spot for the Tracker because of its ability to reduce the impact of stealth. Detection ranges are different between the Tracker and the base Hornets, and loading up stealth components on it can make a difference.

[@majorhavik6637]

Gonna like when we'll be able to customize ships color. Want my Hornet Ghost in gloss black like the orig. artwork.

[@Storm-Cleaver]

Love the mk2 lines. Really looking forward to seeing the mk2 Heartseeker and hoping that we get both F7C and F7A Heartseekers.

[@Selunto]

They still haven't fixed the paint on the MK1 Heartseeker...

[@matthewward2451]

I used to not care for the hornets but they have really grown on me.

[@Grum_Be]

How do these stack up against the other Hornets, they made a lot of money with a sale last year if I recall.

[@itsnullcraft]

F7C- fast lighter guns small missiles, lets call it the default. F7A- heavier, better gun sizes, better missiles. F7C-S - lower HP pool, and has a stealth bonus which will allow you to sneak up to players if you know how stealth gameplay works. I cant confirm this but i also think it is a little faster. F7C-R - has a big radar range and maybe (again dont qoute me on this) but may be able to share radar contacts with other ships in the future to be able to coordinate attacks better

[@Toonen1988]

The MK2 serie's is great, especially the sound of the ships.

[@Huneidu]

My guess is that the center bit makes it the Ghost and Tracker. If you remove them for a weapon mount, they lose their stealth and tracking ability.

[@KoiStory2]

I hope that in the long term there will still be a niche for short-range bounty hunting ships. If all fugitives have to do to is run to pyro to escape ships like the hornet tracker, Hawk, or Cutlass Blue... Then what's the point of them?

[@goldfishpartyy]

The extra large is symmetrical. Any near side is another perspective's far side

[@giuseppemorale5269]

I love the Hornets now, I'm glad we got the MKIIs

[@evanw2980]

People gotta stop thinking modular means hot-swappable. Modular in engineering means built up from modules. It's like customising car options not changing the tyres. You can have a modular platform that gets customised during the build, variants on the same chassis.

[@kevinduvall848]

Thanks for the first look!

[@KaybeCA]

The Tracker variant is so damn pretty. I REALLY wish CIG would give us a hint at exactly what this ship will be able to do in the future.

[@ILikeEiche]

Can't wait for the tracker and ghost to have a real use, because I really like the ships.

[@RealGyouza]

They seem cool. Interested to see signature playing a bigger role

[@cv368]

I am not really a fan of the Hornet, but i can admit that with all the variants they make a good set of abilities. And i imagine that once more mechanics are in and bigger fleet battles become more common, bringing those speciality variants along will be a boost to every formation. Things like pinning targets for your squad and coordination with others out of a Tracker or taking a Super as heavy hitter will probably be reasonable choices eventually

[@boxofcannons600]

A smaller ship should spawn closer to the kiosk end of the hangar so you don’t have to run a marathon to get to your tiny ship in a huge hangar.

[@dylanprinsloo5568]

i don't pledge often but i will be buying the ghost mk2. i took a regular mk2 hornet and put only stealth comps on it and its basically invisible outside like 4km its amazing.

[@kungfuhiker8793]

Love these ships and how each has a unique role in the game! Stealth will be great to get in and out without detection or to hit a bounty and vanish. The Tracker will be great for RECON an area before the fleet jumps in, to scout ahead of a mining ship and provide security if needed. So much to come for sure when the Guild Missions come around. Definite add to my roster.

[@snaggletoof1927]

Oh that is a gorgeous design! You can see the "hornet" dna in it's shape.

[@barnigranero5882]

The Tracker looks really nice. By the way I put a Greycat PTV in my hangar and drive it to the ship. Like in the olden days. Saves a lot of time.

[@CMDR_MURR]

One thing I've always gotta say for the hornets is that they always look GOOOD. These mk2 versions are another layer of sleek on top

[@MeatSalad84]

they should have changed the engine design on the stealth to be more "stealth". some type of dispersal fins or covers to limit IR. I was thinking it would have something like what we saw in the S42 demo.

[@chrispittom9169]

Once they get stealth working again, I will be looking at getting the F7Cs in game

[@aka-chi_hurron]

I do like the stealth look of the Ghost variant.

[@Lokdin-nh6gw]

I wonder if the "camera" on the nose of the tracker is not really a target painter for long range torpedoes.

[@Jarvolo27]

Not quite the ships for me but I could definitely see people having fun with them.

[@The_Fallen_1]

Loving the grey blob lol

[@little-wytch]

I can't figure out why there is a difference between Tracker and Ghost. I mean, is not stealth a core aspect of tracking? What I could see being a worthy difference is if the Ghost had a hacking/data-running module whereas the Tracker has the Scanning Module. So, the next step up from the Tracker would be the Terrapin and the next step up from Ghost would be the Drake Herald lol. The name even works for hacking/data... as in the Ghost in the Machine or the Ghost in the Shell. Even then, I don't see the point of a split. Just like there are different types of fighters/cargo/industrial/support/dropship/gunship etc... I think ships like the Tracker, Ghost, Terrapin, Herald, Hawk, Mantis, and smaller starter variants could all be lumped into a general class called "Tech Ships" In that most of these ships can do a lot of things to an okay degree (things like scanning, emp, hacking, wormhole hunting, etc) but your computers components and blade combos can make your particular ship excel at one of those tech tasks. I know CIG wants to shy away from ships that could be considered "do it all" ships, but I think there is room for a very fair middle ground. If you make a ship capable of doing a lot of tasks, but switching between those tasks requires manually switching out computer blades and a component or two, then it's not overpowered and effectively can do a bunch of tasks but requires at least some effort to switch between those tasks. I think this would also better let people scratch that customization itch by allowing them to select a ship hull they like the look of and then customize it with components/blades to make it feel really unique to them.

[@wessss]

Loved the mk1 ghost. Excited to buy this in game.

[@AthosRico22]

Always though the hornets look a little odd with that larger middle section, then crusader makes the intrepid with a pea shooter to start. Makes the Hornet look much more appealing to the eye.

[@jch1386]

The Ghost looks like a sleeker ship with that top piece. Not as much boom boom as the f7a, but it looks kind of better in a way?

[@koruzarius8071]

I think the point of the tracker is to see the incoming ghost before it lights you up =D

[@DrunkWisdom69]

I hope the tracking gameplay works as a counter to stealth fighters

[@jonny_vdv]

The Mk 2 Hornets look so good. I hope that we get stealth and scanning sooner rather than later so that these (and the Terrapin) can really start to shine in their roles.

[@aendery2k130]

I am not really clear on the differences between the variants.

[@tethan]

The f7's sure to look cool. Always tempts me to switch from my firebird.... I guess it'd be good to know which is better for stealth. Firebird has such great speed tho!

[@percy-4580]

how do you get to the ship expo when it launches?

[@Orothrim]

I have the f7a upgrade in my hangar, but I actually don't know if I'll ever use it because the hornets don't appeal to me.

[@averybowles5953]

How does stealth in SC work exactly?

[@cyron2473]

Pretty useful ships later on with easy upgrades but those I'll buy in-game

[@Temprasphere]

Def going to be grabbing a ghost Keep up the great work!

[@lazylime8046]

Really looking forward to the ghost mk2, ever since the mk2 was announced I've wanted it.

[@brianbaker4288]

I want to like the ghost. If it can be super stealthy it could be really fun to be sneaky.

[@CathrineMacNiel]

6:42 like in the Hangar Module? Yeah good times.

[@David-82]

I upgraded to the F7A MK2 so I doubt I will "invest" in a ghost since I already have a firebird. I would be curious which is better at the stealthy hit and run.

[@UnpluggedCord]

I have F7A mk2 and F7C-S mk1. Likely going to keep the mk1 as a "legacy" / "collectors" item. I prefer the shape of the mk1s body and boxy intakes on the front.

[@KageShi]

I very much plan to park a terrapin on the deck of a liberator.. Mk1 ghost has a soft spot with me as it was one of my first ships... Rather miss the bay doors of the old Mk1 300series chassis tbh. Shame we didn't get the same thing as the hornets back then..

[@AidenCorvas]

Been waiting for the ghost mk2. I loved the first one. I mean I know no stealth play but I just loved it (but eventually since it didn’t have stealth so early as I had it I traded it for a prospector when it came out). But now…a mk2 version of it. I want it.

[@T3hBr0k3nM0nk3y]

A change for the better, aesthetically. Good stuff, Bored! 😉👍

[@RGreeting]

They both look cool, might pick one up in game at some point.

[@SoulDiamond33]

I wish they gave some more love to the older hornets

[@kazuki561]

Mk2 Designs are looking amazing

[@TheThorJunki]

I want to like the hornets, but probably won't get any other than my current F7A MKII. Hope your back gets better soon bored! I'm currently off for IAE with a broken leg 😂

[@wills9482]

The hornets have always looked beautiful.

[@CoolPapaKMagic]

I was under the impression stealth components were the metra right now.

[@chadg901]

Hornets all look super nice.

[@Samwise_Dibly]

I love all the hornets, mk1 & mk2

[@sharxbyte]

I want a F7A-ghost mkII

[@jbirdmax]

@@sharxbyte o7

[@its23skidu]

This. I’m waiting it see if someone can apply the F7A upgrade to the mkII Ghost. *crosses fingers

[@commanderroddi7742]

So, the central module is replaceable, BUT you loose some of the tealth on teh Ghost. So, is puttign either two Ss, or a S4 on there worth that? You'll have to decide. I think because of that I'd go with a firebird for the missile spam, or just the plain F7C MkII.

[@dabblliu9860]

My problem with the hornets are the rear wing/spoiler/stabiliser. They just dont make much sense aerodynamically compared to the rest of the ship

[@protocol3177]

I still like the MKI cockpit better, wish they would have left the canopy MFDs, cant wait to see the super hornet MKII

[@MasticoreWinter]

I like the look of the Hornet Ghost. And prefer the design of the Mk II to the Mk I

[@realDubb]

thank you for the demo on the new hornets

[@jmeastro1364]

my F7A paint doesnt work anymore which sucks. doesnt let me apply it.

[@jakerusmaximus6916]

I wonder what hoops we gotta jump through for the A version

[@RedKing1337]

Looks dope. Not sure if I’ll pick it up but who knows

[@Jinx7red]

I really miss the matte black of the og ghost, would have been nice to see it here, missed opportunity imo.

[@51ghardy]

I keep toying with scanning. I wish it were fleshed out. All in good time.

[@umluex80]

i'm planning to upgrade my mk1 ghost to the mk2. it just looks so much better, sleeker.

[@Revi2151]

Oddly I hat retro things in real life. Big lover of modernity. But as cool as all these MkII hornets look, they all make my love my MkI even more - now I just need a “rusty old beater” military surplus livery for it 😂

[@ghos360]

I’ve been looking forward to the ghost. It’s in the name.

[@PCPAyLOAD]

Nothing screams stealth like bright red stripe on your stealth ship!

[@KumachiYoshimura]

I`ll be waiting for the Hornet F7X