Star Citizen - How to save money on ships with Warbonds & CCU chains

I explain what CCUs and Warbonds are and how to make a CCU chain to save money when buying ships with real money.
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0:00 What is a CCU
0:19 How does a CCU work
2:43 Warbond CCUs
5:04 Where to buy CCUs
5:30 Where to find ship values for CCUs
6:36 CCU chains
7:36 Actual CCU chain example
10:06 CCU tips and info
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[@WingZeroType]

Hey folks, two quick notes: 1. Correction about buybacks - you can't buy back individual CCUs using buyback tokens after applying them to a ship, and buying back warbond CCUs seems to no longer give the warbond discount. 2. Warbond CCUs offered during IAE on the individual manufacturer days are no longer guaranteed to come back during the Finale at the end of IAE. Instead, new Warbond CCUs will be offered during the finale (with some select manufacturer-specific warbonds re-offered)

[@RedJay]

Warbond CCU buyback was a change a year or two back but limited coverage of it. Great to see discussion of CCU process, number 1 thing I hear from newer backers were "I wish I knew about CCUs earlier!"

[@WingZeroType]

@@RedJay yeah i was in the same shoes! I had credits the first time I learned about CCU chains because before then I had paid large chunks of fresh cash for ships lol

[@anonymouskiddy]

@@RedJay im not a new backer, 2013, but sadly haven't seen the potential of them earlier.

[@RedJay]

@@anonymouskiddy They are great tools to move your credit around further and hold good insurance etc. for sure. It is ok, @Pozor you will get your chance to use them from now on! Best thing you can do is pay it forward through telling friends and Orgmates about CCU process if you hear them talking about buying a new ship, remind them in most cases a CCU is the best option out there (especially for a concept, where final product may differ from what you are expecting, so you can just melt the unapplied CCU on the ship and use credit for something else!)

[@anonymouskiddy]

@@RedJay fortunately found out how i can save money this way between citcon and iae last year. have built a bunch of chains since then, hopefully can fill the gaps this iae. my current cheapest possible merchantman would cost 180$. have lying around 140 ccu's at the moment. biggest issue is saving money below 60$ range. but as it seems the origin x1 will come out early next year i can get this fixed then.

[@JaK_Winter2099]

13:12 small side note. If you have spent 1K$+ you don't need a game package anymore. Once you earn concierge status you get star citizen for free and no long need to have to buy and own a game package all the time.

[@WingZeroType]

Yes, thank you! I heard that was something that CIG did but I wasn't sure if that was a one-time thing or if it continues to happen. So if I ended up crossing the $1k mark tomorrow you're saying that I'd no longer need a game package for Star Citizen? (I won't be able to get rid of mine, though since mine also has SQ42 attached and is at a pretty good price point since it's a 2014 pledge).

[@JaK_Winter2099]

@@WingZeroType Go to your hanger and check your VIP High Admiral package. If you had a SQ42 package during a certain date you got that for free too. Other wise any new people get star citizen for free but not SQ42. (March 18th, 2022 is when the did this update if you had SQ42 then it should appear in your VIP package.)

[@WingZeroType]

@@JaK_Winter2099 Thank you! Ok so that's what I was remembering. I'm not at $1k spent yet so I don't have this package but it's good to know that I will get a free game package but not SQ42. Bummer that they don't give both for us older backers.

[@DuskOne2006]

@@WingZeroType 2014 pledge lol

[@WingZeroType]

@@DuskOne2006 yeah that's what i have too lol

[@mortalkombatfight-clubsofi9637]

To be honest i was always confused by how exactly a CCU Chain would work. You were able to clear things up for me, thanks! Much appreciated. Can`t wait to see what i can figure out for a Drake Corsair on the last day of IAE

[@WingZeroType]

That's fantastic to hear! Thanks for checking out the video, and goodluck this IAE! I myself am curious to see what I can make happen :)

[@milesbarrineau1584]

As someone who is sitting in a merchantman and only paid $300 for it, knowing the ccu game and getting a little lucky with concept ships that go up in price you can end up with such a cool fleet for so, much less than it looks like it should be.

[@WingZeroType]

That's the game within the game... The CCU Game!

[@redslate]

Yeah, but, at that point, you're just gambling.

[@WingZeroType]

@@redslate its not really gambling? You're not betting any money with the hopes of winning more. You just buy CCUs when they fit between two price points because they guarantee monetary savings on something that you want to buy.

[@redslate]

@@WingZeroType There's no guarantee. That's the gamble.

[@bazerkerx]

You ain't gonna sit in that thing for a long while

[@RedStang_Sr]

Thanks for putting in the part that you can buy CCU's even if you don't own the "starting ship" Thats where i was confused, and thanks to your live stream i've got it all now HAHA

[@WingZeroType]

Haha thank YOU for helping me realize what pieces of this puzzle might be preventing people from understanding how to do this

[@Jipsydude]

OMG Thank you. This is the best explanation of CCU chaining I have seen. You were able to lay it out so even I could understand.

[@WingZeroType]

ty so much! I'm glad it's been helpful for you and that it made sense

[@Jipsydude]

@@WingZeroType yeah man great timing as well. IAE is right around the corner. I'll have a carrack before you know it.

[@WingZeroType]

@@Jipsydude goodluck! May the Warbonds be ever in (all of our) favor!

[@alvin41712]

I was trying to find good guild on CCU chain w.b., and ur video is one of the best or maby the best! Like u taked about doing a lot small upgrade (with a min of 5 dollars) to buy the ship cheaper. btw for most countries not in USA it's vet-tax for me in Sweden it's 25%

[@WingZeroType]

yeah sorry, I do know that there's some VAT in other countries but since I'm in the US I only know for sure what we have here. And thank you for the kind words! I am really glad that you found it useful and helpful :)

[@mstrickk1]

I finally understand what a CCU is an how to do it fully now, thanks to you. I got the idea from seeing chats about it, but until you see it or do it it's very hard to grasp.

[@WingZeroType]

That's awesome to hear! Im really glad this helped it make sense and hopefully saves you some money down the line!

[@diminios]

Excellent video. Thank you. Only thing I'd add - buying CCU tokens back has changed, at some point this year (iirc). It now seems to remove any warbond discounts. Example: I bought a $15 CCU from the MSR to a Redeemer last year. So $260 + $15 (=$275$) -> $325. I then melted it. Now, when I go to the buyback page, the game wants $65 for it, not the $15 that it used to. Buying back a warbond ship pledge (if you paid warbond price for the whole vehicle, not just a CCU) should still keep the warbond discount, though, according to the support page. I'm not rich enough to test it. 😅

[@WingZeroType]

oh dang! I had an LTI warbond hoverquad in my buyback so I did check with that but I didn't have any melted warbond CCUs that I could test with. That's a bummer, but that's good to call out - thank you!

[@ColbyWanShinobi]

Excellent point! I have a bunch of warbond ships in my buy-back, meaning ships that I paid cash for, and I can confirm that I can still buy those back at the reduced price. So you're 100% right: if you buy a cheap CCU, you have to keep it. Otherwise, once you sell it back, you lose your discount.

[@WingZeroType]

@@ColbyWanShinobi thanks for confirming! I've added a pinned comment to the video as a correction so hopefully folks don't melt their warbond CCUs with the intent to buy them back!

[@creatureinthedeep]

Thanks for explaining this! Been hearing folks talk about it in game but couldn't wrap my head around it. Great video! Subbed!

[@WingZeroType]

thanks for checking it out! glad it was useful :)

[@JohnHash13]

this video came at a perfect timing! i was trying to understand how it works, now it's 100% clear, thanks man!

[@WingZeroType]

That's great to hear! I'm really glad it was helpful, thanks for checking it out!

[@Ryecrash617]

Excellent guide! I'll use that the next time I'll get a ship.

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you! I hope it helps you save some big $$$

[@evancairo]

This is absolutely insane. I just want to buy a vulture and the game and begin salvaging. This is so complicated no wonder people go to the grey market. They are at least straightforward and simple. Why do they make people dontrigenometry just to begin playing a game I just spent 300o -Luis dollars on a computer for already. Just make it simple!

[@WingZeroType]

yeah, i think the "simple version" is just buy the warbonds when teh ship is released or becomes flyable, but for those that want to figure out the CCU game there's a way to potentially save some more money, but it is complicated and difficult to work around sometimes

[@dietrichneu8054]

This video just saved me $50. Thanks!

[@WingZeroType]

That's awesome to hear! Glad it was helpful to you, thanks!

[@Geneticlyinsane1]

I brought that new buggy with the soul purpose of upgrading it to something during IAE , even if i stil dont quite understand the whole CCU thing this video has gone a long way to helping me out , thanks !

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you for checking the video out! If there's any questions you have I can try to clarify anything that wasn't clear in the video!

[@CoyoteOne]

The only game that makes a full time game to buy stuff to play the game. I never could wrap my head around these mile long chains and keeping 19 upgrades in my inventory. Bear in mind that ships change so rapidly when it comes to how good/bad they are. I'm sure you're feeling the sting of that useless Ion. I did a chain on it and melted mine. Id rather just do the big brain move as concierge. when ship sale week goes live. Melt a few ships for credit. Buy every ship you're interested in, pick the one you want for the time being, melt the rest. 2 buy backs per quarter means I can easily go buy back ships whenever I want if one gets nerfed into the pavement. You basically get all the ships in your buy back list then. If youre an LTI lover then just have 2 or 3 LTI cheap ships hanging around for when you find the one you want to keep forever and use the ccu on it for the token. Things change far too rapidly for ne to be comfortable to CCU chain to save 50 bucks and then when CIG makes changes to the ship, it COULD very well no longer be worth it to own.

[@WingZeroType]

Yep that's totally fair, but while I wasn't yet concierge this was a great way to get the most ship for my money RIGHT NOW, to help recover from wipes/resets. Since I'm creating content for youtube I definitely want to have access to the latest combat ships when they come out so I am planning on having a pool of credits set aside just for having the latest combat ship, but I do know of a few ships that I want as my forever homies purely out of love for them across numerous patches, like a constellation and an Avenger. I definitely did feel the sting of the Ion though, but I just turned it into a retaliator and started torping bounties instead lol.

[@CoyoteOne]

@@WingZeroType Tali is the way..... :) Supposedly the Ares series will be getting another rebalance/buff/something in the next patch and not be as horrible, but time will tell. I deeply miss the giant slow shooting cannon of the Ion. I was an inferno lover until the spread was the size of Pluto at 1km. All valid points from your side too.

[@SuperPope69]

I like this video despite not being interested in this sort of thing, I got the Avenger Titan game package on sale and after 6 months decided to buy a prospector for easier grinding after a whipe. Been playing for about a year and love this game, glad there's ways for others who love the game to get dream ships at a lower cost. I personally prefer grinding though.

[@UnpluggedCordTTV]

I think of the "earning down" method (see inforunners fixmyfleet vids) works best for modularity of fleet/experience. I like the idea of dedicated mining/medium cargo pledged for being able to start after wipe at aesteroid mining. saving light fighters/cargo ships as buy in game makes wipes more exciting because you're not stuck with whatever flavor of the month you pledged for! You can steadily earn you way into whatever game loop you want to focus on that patch and also not limited to single 200-400$ hulls. Cargo refactor? 4m goes from being invested in a c2 to a hull C for ease of loading cargo! Missile restock bug? 4m goes from retaliator to eclipse for faster claim time! Let alone constant meta shifts for light fighters. Although can't seem to be disappointed in the gladius.

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks for checking it out anyway even though it wasn't exactly up your alley. I don't want to spend a ton on this game either but I do want a couple of different starting ship options, like a combat ship and a daily ship. And now with salvage about to come online (and the fact that I'm a content creator) I feel like I need to get access to a vulture as well so I can hopefully make some content about that, assuming it's not completely broken lol

[@WingZeroType]

I haven't seen the fix my fleet vids, but more or less what I'm trying to get to is a point where I have about enough credits available to me where I can just melt and buy whatever the newest ships are that aren't earnable in-game lol. It's difficult to pull the trigger to melt the chains that I have though because I'd be very sad to lose all that "value" that I got via the Warbond CCU chains

[@nathanforrester5140]

thank you man. Great video.

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks for checking it out! Hoping it helps some folks ahead of IAE

[@taniasandhuchawda5372]

Great video as usual!

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you! You've been a great supporter through all my videos!

[@XalenMaru]

Nicely done!

[@WingZeroType]

thank you very much! I hope it was helpful :)

[@Ghost_in_the_machineworks]

Yes sir.... I have not purchased ships for years, only CCU's... I will sit on them ( do not melt) until Beta and then apply. So far, my average chain is 48 to 62% off retail and growing as ships increase in value.

[@WingZeroType]

Yep you can definitely get realllyyy efficient if you're patient, you just have to balance that out with having a decent set of playable ships in the verse in the meantime :D

[@Ghost_in_the_machineworks]

@@WingZeroType Oh yeah, get a money earner for sure so you can at least play the game and buy more 'in game'.

[@coxyca9995]

What if they decide to remove CCU when the beta goes live?

[@WingZeroType]

@@coxyca9995 they probably won't remove the CCU that you've already purchased, that would create way too much outcry for a game that's community-funded. But yeah they could make some other unpopular changes and that's a small risk that you take.

[@citizeninja]

The Pisces will likely be offered for $40 with BIS paint, with a $5 discount WB CCU available as well, so new players with a starter Mustang/Aurora who want a Pisces or more expensive ship can CCU to/through it to save another $5, and also get the Pisces BIS paint included in the CCU chain.

[@WingZeroType]

Ooo nice, I wish I had a referral reward sitting around to CCU that to in that case

[@Integer_Overload]

I know what I'm doing next time they announce a ship i might be interested in😂.

[@WingZeroType]

wooo welcome to the game within a game! CCU game!

[@hcwm2]

Getting ships at a discount has become a sport of sorts. I am building a chain to a 600i expedition, with some parts of it laying around in my account since years. I could complete it during the upcoming sale with 56% discount or I wait even longer until the Hull-B gets released with the usual price increase. That would benefit my chain and save me even more new money.

[@WingZeroType]

haha I hear you! I'm sort of in the same boat. I'm interested in potentially working towards a 600i ever since I heard about it getting a rework with medical respawn capabilities but currently my priciest ship +CCU takes me only to a Warden. I'll see what else comes out this IAE :)

[@ohbitchuary]

Can someone help me? I have an Aurora LN game package from back in 2014 with 3 months insurance. If I want to upgrade to a drake cutter for example (which has LTI atm), can I even do that or will the cutter then have 3 months insurance only? Also, if I melt the LN and then buy the cutter, will I have to go for the whole ship package + SQ42 or do those not get melted, since my game package is linked to my LN? Any help before the sale is over would be much appreciated. :)

[@WingZeroType]

hey so if you were to melt your 2014 game package that has SQ42 included and rebought the cutter game package you would lose out on SQ42. If you upgrade the aurora LN to the cutter, i don't think you would get the upgraded insurance and so you'd be stuck with the 3 month insurance in that case, sorry. But on the plus side, insurance isn't really *that* big of a deal, CIG has stated that numerous times in the past. But I still understand wanting to improve your insurance. Occasionally you can perform an "IAE Upgrade" on a ship to get the 120 month IAE insurance but those are usually via warbond CCUs, which wasn't offered for the drake cutter.

[@HudsonMesquita.]

I tried to upgrade my C1 Spirit to the F7C Mark II with the warbond price, but it just doesn't show's up, only the full price of it, i don't know if I'm doing something wrong or isn't allowed anymore to upgrade a normal pledge to a warbond pledge

[@WingZeroType]

So not every ship has what's called a "warbond CCU". The F7C MK2 didn't come with a warbond CCU, so you can't spend real money and get the real-money-discount for an upgrade. They're only offering that discount for the full price ship. So it doesn't sound like you're doing anything wrong, it's just CIG is being stingy with the discount this time.

[@JaK_Winter2099]

The only downside to this is that upgrading to a warbond package does not give you the warbond perks such as LTI. Only what the original CCUed ship has such as a mustang with only 6 months of insurance. But if you start off with something with more such as IAE then its better. Some people are crazy when it comes to CCUs lol they save something like 1000$ just to get a big ship.

[@WingZeroType]

Yes, that's why a bunch of people like to start with LTI tokens. Last IAE they also made it so that if you did a warbond IAE CCU you were able to turn something into 120 month insurance. I did that to my original 2014 starter pledge since it was only 6 month insurance, so I used an IAE upgrade on it and now that pledge is a 120 month pledge :).

[@Archmage9885]

@@WingZeroType It's rare, but sometimes warbond CCU's will also add lifetime insurance. I upgraded my Mustang Alpha game package to a warbond Nomad back when it was added and got LTI on the game package. I've only seen this offered a few times since I started playing in February 2017.

[@WingZeroType]

@@Archmage9885 oh nice, if that happens again i'll do that for my original pledge package that has SC and SQ42

[@nemesis851_]

In other older videos I e seen the M2 as a destination ship. But now the Herc Starlifter is no where. I’m wanting to get a STV then at IAE purchase the M2. But you said military ships are in May 😢

[@WingZeroType]

what do you mean the herc starlifter is nowhere? almost every ship will go on sale in IAE, and then military ships will go on sale again in May, so you won't have to wait long if you want to get a starlifter.

[@sneakyfildy]

Thanks

[@WingZeroType]

You're welcome! I hope it's coming in handy this IAE!

[@rocky258258]

if I melt my package, I can't buy warbound packages with the melted credit tho right? I'm confused

[@WingZeroType]

that's correct. If you melt your package you get credits for the total amount of money that you spent. Any time you want a warbond, you'll need to put new money in. So if you melt your package, you can use those credits to fill in the gaps between warbond CCUs with regular CCUs

[@Suirady]

I don't understand something.. you filled the gap from Mustang to the Titan with the Pisces and said you can use store credits, but those are still money that you spent at some point in time, so it's the same as saying you straight up bought the Pisces for 45$ and only got a 5$ discount on the 50$ Titan warbond.. Am I missing something here?

[@WingZeroType]

hey you're totally right, store credits are still money that you've spent at some point in time for the game. But what often happens is that players have some store credits left over, either because they didn't know about CCU chains and they have a bunch of high-melt-value ships or they just got tired of certain ships and wanted to try something different. So the priority for CCU chains is typically to first and foremost, lower the overall cost of a ship. But the 2nd priority after that is to lower the amount of *new money* that you need to add to the game, making it so that you use as much of the existing funds in your account as possible to increase the price of the ships that you own. I hope that made some sense, feel free to let me know if it didn't and I can try to find a better way to explain.

[@javier1zq]

I am in Spain, and i don't know if these are taxes being applied, but when the CCU from a mustang to a caterpillar is 363$, which is more that the value of the caterpillar. In this case it is not worth to do this, and buying standalone or warbond is cheaper

[@WingZeroType]

Even if you do warbond CCUs along with regular CCUs the taxes makes it higher? I didn't realize the tax isn't a percent of the purchase cost

[@javier1zq]

@@WingZeroType I think its because for regular purchases they round the price with the tax included, but for CCUs they add the tax later

[@WingZeroType]

@@javier1zq ohhh interesting, i see. that's too bad then

[@EmptyBrass]

I know this is an old video, but how did you build your CCU chain? You have like 7 ships there. I was hoping you would've went into more detail on how you arrived at each ship through the chain.

[@WingZeroType]

hey sorry for the delay in response, but i bought warbond CCU's whenever they were available and they were between the start and target ships, and eventually I had enough warbond CCU's to fill most of the spots in the chain and then i filled in any smaller gaps with regular (non-warbond) CCUs. We never know which ships are going to be warbond CCU offerings so you can't really plan in advance, but rather you just need to see if the CCU that you are looking at fits between your starting ship and ending ship.

[@mierenmanieren3916]

are there any trustable discord servers that help people make CCU chains? bcs the next warbond is soon and i dont want to do anything wrong

[@WingZeroType]

I can't speak to anyone else's but there are a bunch of really helpful people on my discord that will help with that, myself included. It's a relatively small community but the active people are very helpful.

[@GR4YFOX-]

When I go to buy ccus there's no option for a warbond ccu? I get the process but the ccu for the spirit C1 is at a 110 value instead of the 100 warbond value? Is that ccu no longer available or am I doing something wrong? Anyone know?

[@WingZeroType]

Hey so I think it's because it's an initial concept sale, so they aren't offering warbond CCUs for the spirits, only a full-priced warbond. That is sometimes how it works with rare or quantity-limited ships as well. In the upcoming IAE event (in just under 3 weeks) we should get a bunch of warbond CCUs. I think we'll get at least 1 available per day of the event and if it happens the same way it did last year, all of the warbond CCUs will be available again during the last couple days of the event. But yes, for now there are no Warbond CCUs for the spirit series of ships, which is why i ended up getting a regular $10 CCU from a $100 Cutlass Black to the $110 Spirit C1.

[@GR4YFOX-]

@@WingZeroType thanks! That adds up!

[@ashtin5392]

my question is if i upgrade a Ship to a warbond ship and click apply upgrade. Can i then upgrade that ship to the next in the CCU chain?

[@WingZeroType]

yep that's how the chain works. So if you have an Avenger Titan and apply a warbond to a Gladius, then the next CCU in the chain needs to be a Gladius -> (something else) CCU. Once you apply the upgrade your ship is no longer an Avenger Titan, it's now a Gladius.

[@ashtin5392]

@@WingZeroType thanks for the reply. I found out you should not upgrade to a ship you already own, it will not show both but only the first ship you owned. So you have to upgrade the ship you owned before for your LTI tokens to show up.

[@WingZeroType]

@@ashtin5392 ah ok, yeah if you've got multiple chains going then yeah thats important to know, ty!

[@Vannellus]

One simple noob question: Why I should spent money for ships (except the starter package) if I can buy all ships ingame? Are there any advantages?

[@WingZeroType]

The primary advantage is you don't have to grind for the other ships after any resets. If/when the game ever ships, the income will be significantly slower than it is right now in the alpha stage. We've got an inflated income right now compared to ship cost since we have so many bugs and wipes. Once things are stable, the grind will be longer. Some people don't want to do that, so they would rather buy the ship. Also, there are some specialized ships that can do things that starter ships can't - think of asteroid mining and salvage gameplay.

[@senzar9970]

Currently chaining to an Andromeda. Im not sure if I should complete it, at 38% right now

[@WingZeroType]

I think the Andromeda is a great ship! I want to get one before the game releases, for now I'm happy to buy it in-game because it always gives me something powerful to work towards lol

[@senzar9970]

@@WingZeroType sure I get that! I set my mind on it because its a good base after a wipe. Everything else I want to save ingame for.

[@WingZeroType]

@@senzar9970 yeah makes perfect sense!

[@profdecoy]

So one comment on melting a ship that's made with CCU chains and buying it back. You can only buyback the base ship it was created from, any applied CCU to it is permanently gone and those cannot be bought back. You can also not "unapply" a CCU, there's been rare circumstances that CIG support has reversed a CCU apply for someone, but don't count on it.

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you for the correction about the buying back of CCUs from a chain, I'll make a pinned comment about that so ppl see that. I didn't have a melted chain to test this with so I just made that line based on research but it seems it was wrong. I appreciate you letting me know and also thank you for checking out the video

[@63Arnast]

Nice if you have the funds to buy a ship.. some don't even have the funds to buy the basic but would love to play the game. :(

[@WingZeroType]

yeah that's true. Unfortunate for those who are struggling to buy the basic necessities, it'd be good if people try to help each other out when they can

[@spider0804]

Wouldn't the best strategy just be to wait until the last day and have as full of a chain as possible?

[@WingZeroType]

Yes, for IAE specifically. But if you want to go longer than just IAE you could as well. One thing is there *might* be some CCUs that show up on the individual manufacturer days that aren't available at the end of IAE, I'm not sure. So I'm going to buy the CCUs that fit into the chains I'm looking for as they show up on the individual days just incase.

[@spider0804]

@@WingZeroType how do you know which ccus will be available? Is it just based on past president? I'd like to get a perseus on discount but when I go to build a chain with the app site it says unreachable.

[@WingZeroType]

@@spider0804 I haven't used the app sites myself, but it *might* be saying unreachable right now because I don't think the ship is currently offered for sale. And I'm not certain but it might be that those capital ships aren't allowed to be CCU'd anymore, but I don't know that for sure. You might just have to wait until IAE since I do know for sure that the ship isn't available all the time so if you try to make a chain right now it wouldn't be possible since the ship isn't available for sale right now. As for which ships will be available, almost all ships in the game will be available for sale, based on what's happened in past IAEs. There's only a few super rare ships that won't be available. When it comes to capital-sized ships, they can be quantity limited and they go on sale a few different times and only a certain amount of them will be sold before they're sold out, so you'll want to keep your eye out for announcements around that. As far knowing which warbond CCUs will be available so that you can build in discounts, there isn't a way to know that. Any newly flyable ships are typically offered for a warbond price but then there are also a host of other random ships also offered for a warbond price, and that changes from year to year and we don't have any way of knowing what will be offered so it's just about waiting to see what comes up for discount and buying it if you have space in your CCU chain for it :) For example, if I've got a partial chain up to a ship worth $100 and I'm aiming for the $190 Constellation Taurus, I can buy any warbond CCUs between $105 and $180, since i'll still be able to connect them to the rest of my chain and back to the constellation taurus.

[@yobizzyb]

I'm another few percent less confused🤣

[@WingZeroType]

Awesome lol. If there's any questions you have about anything I said pls lemme know! It'd be good to know what could still use some clarification

[@yobizzyb]

@@WingZeroType you say you bought some warbond upgrades and some credit upgrades where is the credit coming from? Im assuming you melted other ships? if im starting from my starter ship or I just buy a ship to start the ccu I would not have any credits would I. and every upgrade would have to be real money right?

[@WingZeroType]

@@yobizzyb yep that's right. Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't explain that well. Before I knew about CCU chained discounts I upgraded my starter Avenger to a Constellation Taurus, so I had a lot of credits when I melted that that could be used to fill in the gaps between warbonds. And if you do that a couple of times when getting new ships that's sort of how you accumulate some credits. E.g. right now I'm considering melting my Scorpius, which would give me $145 in credits and I'll put some more fresh money into the game and potentially get another ship that's cheaper than the scorpius since I can't upgrade the scorpius into a cheaper ship.

[@yobizzyb]

I just watched this again and Im pretty sure I understood everything now😁

[@Z3rbSama]

if CCU is spelled C C U, why do you always spell C I G (Cloud Imperium Game) "CIG"?

[@WingZeroType]

And why do we say R S I as the separate letters? I'm willing to bet it's just about what is easy to say plus what is clear in speech. Also, English is a silly language sometimes lol

[@soeffner6833]

As a noob. What is a CCU?

[@WingZeroType]

Hey I'm sorry, but can you try to ask a more specific question? I tried to explain what a CCU is in the first part of the video. It's basically something that you get when you pay some money to CIG to upgrade one ship into another ship.

[@soeffner6833]

@@WingZeroType Im new to the game and dont know all the acronyms. Sorry if i missed you explaining what CCU actually stands for.

[@WingZeroType]

@@soeffner6833 ahhh that's what you mean, it stands for Cross Chassis Upgrade.

[@0BLACKESTFUN0]

you safe more money by waiting until game comes out and buy it ingame ;))

[@WingZeroType]

But what if I don't live until the game comes out 😅

[@0BLACKESTFUN0]

@@WingZeroType than you probably dont need it :P

[@LOoNyTOoN1336]

o7

[@WingZeroType]

o7 hope it was useful!

[@GamingNostalgiaRemastered]

I'm still confused as feck. :(

[@WingZeroType]

I'm sorry :( If you have any specific questions I'm more than happy to try to answer them to see if I can clarify it

[@GamingNostalgiaRemastered]

@@WingZeroType Don't get me wrong. Your video is very informative but I had problems finding the right path to get to the Reclaimer. So I simply bought a CCU'd Reclaimer from "The Impound". Basically the same exept someone else did the upgrade process from the RSI website and then gifted it to my account for a price. That made it a lot easier.

[@RaptorThings]

1st

[@WingZeroType]

haha congrats!

[@firstlast6437]

Not gonna lie, I see anyone whos bought ANYTHING other than one of the base starter packs as a sucker, a complete fool. And I will always feel this way regardless of how much whining and bitching I receive from pathetic whales.

[@WingZeroType]

i don't. I hope folks who want to spend more of their money on this find this video useful

[@sentiel]

tl;dr He still spent $170 when you can literally go from the most basic ship to the biggest for all in game currency quite easily.

[@WingZeroType]

I feel like you're very fun at parties

[@chrissinclair8705]

I think the best CCU upgrade path is to put the money you would put into ships into bitcoin and wait a couple of years then buy all the ships. Don't worry, the game won't be done by then.

[@WingZeroType]

Lolll but what if Bitcoin crashes????

[@wernergolombick1553]

I don’t think spending more money, no matter what discount, is a good idea on a game that has been in development for more than 10 years and has very very very very little to show for it! I think a CCU chain to refund all the money is a better idea.

[@WingZeroType]

I respect that you feel that way, but there's still plenty of people that still want to support the project and get ships so I'm hoping this helps them

[@smky143]

Seems like an awful lot of math.

[@WingZeroType]

it's not, really. just need to build a chain from one ship to another and put as many warbonds in the chain as possible :)

[@sp33dweed]

do none of yall seriously not account for taxes? this is dumb.

[@WingZeroType]

there are no taxes when I buy pledges or CCUs in my country

[@Jipsydude]

He addressed that in the video.

[@anonymouskiddy]

if you're using store credits you're not paying taxes again. You pay them only once

[@WingZeroType]

@@anonymouskiddy is this true everywhere internationally?

[@anonymouskiddy]

@@WingZeroType yes as far as i know. Why should someone pay tax twice? Makes no sense

[@jennamason4323]

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[@WingZeroType]

w a r b o n d s !