Star Citizen Server Meshing Absolutely Works. (1000 Player Server)

[@Olli43]

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[@galece]

the snail has struck once more

[@nitroblitz3039]

@@galece real

[@Nitrox_909]

@@galece hail the snail

[@I.PAddress]

@@galece the grind never ends

[@MathiasBronnes]

i was playing on a 500 player server 30 minutes ago, it was flawless, no lag or delays, we had the whole server on daymar for a huge party

[@Olli43]

its so good

[@olternaut]

@@Olli43 I want to see large fleet battles. Someone make it happen!

[@LeftJoystick]

The only terrible lag I had was due to me being in a gigantic party [Morphologis party]. Once I left the party, my fps shot up from 2-3fps to 60+ fps haha

[@MathiasBronnes]

@@Olli43 i was impressed for sure.

[@arride4590]

Mesh server is not working yet. They did not released.

[@HarperLylia]

My jaw dropped when I saw how smooth the 500 player servers were. I honestly thought we'd be lucky to see 200 player servers in 4.0. I'm really excited to see their improvements the rest of this year. I can't believe we finally this close.

[@The_Fallen_1]

I wish I could have been on one of the good 500 player servers. I don't know what they were doing on shard 180, but it felt like it was constantly on the verge of dying. I didn't have time to try out one of the 500 player servers at the end of the test unfortunately.

[@MrSirFluffy]

That is surprising, I haven't tried it. I also felt a 200 count by next year would be wishful thinking, if 500 is stable then that's quite mind blowing as CIG tends to under deliver by a wide margin for long periods of time lol

[@MannyCalaveras]

​@The_Fallen_1 they are testing two different networks communication protocols. They've mentioned one works much better than the other, so I'm guessing you may have been on one of the servers using the old protocol.

[@thumpertron]

I witnessed more than 100 players at the Everus Harbor terminals, and it was working, not perfect by any means, but they're close. We might actually need more elevators in the near future.

[@jonathaneskew9878]

well the 500 player one is divided 4 times, and spreads out the load quite a bit across servers, so as a whole it should get smoother. i was seeing 12-15 server fps on the 500

[@PeteDeKiwi]

Jumped in last night and was deeply impressed with the smoothness. Another random player and I were making our way to the space port and as he was slightly ahead of me not once did he stutter or lag. I was like running down the street with a mate in real life. That was fantastic to see. I lot of ships gathered at a POI and it was flawless. Admittedly there were only 50 or so in chat but the meshing made a huge difference to the feel of the game. Congrats to CIG on this achievement.

[@sam2023blah]

they need tests like this to advance the tech, there is only so much they can do in house. they need the volume of actual people doing stuff

[@thePrisoner1000]

Yup, more people in the PTU helps too, but I understand that some people don't play it because it can be rough.

[@rickshaw3397]

They have these tests every time i have to work. If theyd set a hard date for a week in advance id call in to work just to participate

[@quintinphillips3064]

I started on the one to 100 player server and stayed on until the three 500 after the 1000 and the one 100 player server was getting 30 to 40 server FPS, which is a huge improvement because live normally sits between 10 and 15 and 3.24.2

[@drewbydoobydoo2918]

The ai is already pretty formidale at 10 to 15 fps, it's gonna be brutal if they can get to a stable 30 fps on large shards. ERT's used to be a joke at 3-6fps, but at even 15, hammerhead turrets are sniping missles out of space, and fighters are pulling orbit maneuvers against slower ships.

[@philm325]

Seriously 30-40?

[@MrCabbage-qz2vd]

30-40 fps would be ai's full potential

[@Sieztt]

​@@MrCabbage-qz2vd would need john connor to save us from those absolute terminators

[@quintinphillips3064]

@@philm325 yes, it was a shock to me as well.

[@So1othurn]

A peak of 1,530 players was recorded on a single continent prior to a server crash, with the highest stable player count reaching 1,241. -PlanetSide 2 - Wikipedia. I hope this game will be able to at least match that.

[@Sm0lPerson]

consider the differences between this game and that one I wouldn't compare them too closely.

[@jokesy6112]

wasnt that simulated people and not real players

[@So1othurn]

@@jokesy6112 You wish.

[@Sieztt]

​​​@@jokesy6112no, they were real people

[@kajmak64bit76]

​@@Sm0lPersonwell to be fair 1500 players in PlanetSide on a tiny map is impressive compared to 1000 players in Massive Planet Sized maps in Star Citizen PlanetSide is just 1 continent... small... but Star Citizen is an entire planet... But most players weren't on the same planet too... STAR citizen is massive compared to PlanetSide Sooo... PlanetSide is more impressive lol

[@Pandemanium_TV]

the 3:500 mesh test worked the best for me, but honestly the 6:1000, even though the input delay was like 5-30 seconds, WORKED. It held together to the end of the test, DGS were crashing and recovering into the server, it literally fucking worked. They just need to figure out the replication layer update delay, I'm 99% sure it was just shitting the bed from 6 servers worth of information streaming in. WE ARE ON THE WAY BABY

[@stoneangier9093]

There's a minimum 5 second input delay with a 1000 player server? That is BEYOND unplayable. What the fuck lol

[@Pandemanium_TV]

@@stoneangier9093 oh come off it. this is like the second or third large scale test. the last 1000 player test imploded upon itself minutes after releasing, literally 5-10 minute interaction delays. 5 seconds is a massive improvement

[@stoneangier9093]

@@Pandemanium_TV Doesn’t change the fact that that is still unplayable

[@dukeofhazard420]

@@stoneangier9093nobody has said it’s playable, just that it works and it’s improving rapidly

[@mythicallegendary3992]

@@stoneangier9093this tech will change the entire industry. It’s fine if they have issues at the start of it.

[@modusponen1447]

As we've recently learned, the ATC system is old code and is being replaced. If that was the only problem, then this was a huge success. 🎉

[@MannyCalaveras]

Yes the CTO mentioned that ATC, mass transit and elevators are legacy code which is due for a refactor to integrate with the backend updates that are coming with server meshing.

[@nathaos01]

The most satisfying thing to watch is this game update and break and then just slowly working over the next updates until it reached a new high :D

[@Ace-Brigade]

Ever notice how with Star Citizen all of the wrong noises are loud?

[@whamo_3]

It is a lot of fun at outposts hearing distant fire that suddenly hits you because its 10 meters away - and then when you step from dirt to scrap metal, you're suddenly the hottest new riverdance sensation in Stanton.

[@jonathaneskew9878]

they also removed the loud jet flyby sounds with 3.24, now everything sounds lame

[@moonasha]

teh audio is a mess. Music used to be a lot louder too, and now you basically can't hear it 99% of the time even with the slider cranked up

[@Astro-M0]

This is amazing! Now I get to wait in a 70 player hangar queue at every location!

[@Erik3E]

I think once pyro comes in as well as other systems a larger player number wont really slow you down that much

[@mythicallegendary3992]

@@Erik3Eplus once they update these places to support more people it will be awesome!

[@angerskarin9222]

@@Erik3E You also wont have to spawn your ship every time you get in the game.

[@thePrisoner1000]

Some people gathered together with 100 players, it ran pretty well.

[@rayneelol]

I'm glad that it worked out so well a few adjustments are needed but even with 1000 play cap I'm very happy with how well it worked out.

[@criticalchai]

nice. Seeing that they let people spawn in any bed in the verse and its now running fine says that they definitely can handle the traffic. they but it does mean they have to rebuild the city spaceports (or at least make all the doors active to allow more ships or they will need to let people set home to any of the stations or other locations. So definitely really good news. It seemed to me in the previous test the servers just had too many people at too few terminals and hangars and that was the bottleneck. really nice going CIG.

[@rickshaw3397]

Theyve supposedly been working on building interiors 2.0 for a year now. Hopefully see something at citcon

[@robertcaie8157]

incredible. It's finally coming together!

[@JG26EZ1]

lolol You're still going to wait forever.

[@deivoc4950]

@@JG26EZ1thank god we have you, how shall we call you hero? Milkyman?

[@JG26EZ1]

How long have you owned the title? I've owned it for 10 years. You can call me a guy with some facts. Or.. you can simply gfy with your childish name calling..

[@christophercurtis9392]

​@JG26EZ1 you must be a hit at parties...

[@rickshaw3397]

@@deivoc4950milkyman gets angry

[@danhamilton9225]

as someone who downloaded wing commander at 9600bps (this took a little over an hour) and never looked back (no doubt due in part to the VGA + soundblaster experience), this seems meaningful and the teenager in me is giddy.

[@tonylanders1196]

I was 36 back in 1995 when I played wing commander 3 on my pentium 2 Dell with a 21inch viewsonic crt and thought video gaming couldn't get any better. 30 years later and play sc I'm glad I became a backer in 2016 Praetorian level. Keep up the great work cig

[@jamescossey6372]

On large servers if your at your home base. You have a vehicle on the side. After you call your ship, you run to the vehicle on the side to open your doors(put in que) so that hopefully when you ship comes up, you get in and power everything on, it will be your turn in que

[@1gkn1ght]

I was in the 500 player for a little last night, had some interaction delays, anywhere from 15-30 server FPS, but when my ship was impounded in my hangar after waiting for the queue to leave, I logged off. Sadly I didn't have the time to try and get out and mess around much.

[@mryellow6918]

Trying to debug this game is probably a hell hole. Like is it a game bug client bug server bug. Or all of them. Or does this particular server just not like the game

[@antoniopaivadasilva2716]

I just hope that CIG doesn't go over their heads with this server meshing. It seems that with 1000 it was really not too stable but with 500 there was apparently. Therefore it's really important that they find the balance on this so that we have a good experience playing.

[@thePrisoner1000]

It was working a lot better than I thought, still some problems but still good for for testing.

[@doubledigital_]

oli late night crew in da house haha so glad the test went well i had high hopes for this drop and woohoo!!! i hope we get to test the jump gates at some point .. u know for a fact every player going to be on that gate when its live and the servers will explode lolol test is still live for anyone to jump on btw!! 500 player server test is g0000d o7

[@kamikazejohnson7714]

Not going to lie, I didn’t believe this would ever happen. So happy to see 500 work so well. I think we are still a long way off but this is huge

[@sefin84]

finished Star Citizen + VR = Ready Player One experience in nutshell. Hope I will live to see it! :D

[@angerskarin9222]

can any one pc run star citizen on vr? vr alone is pretty hungry for pc.

[@sefin84]

@@angerskarin9222 it does not have VR support but think it could in the future given that we don't even know when it comes out... :)

[@jacobbaumgardner3406]

I dream of the day where there is only one Crusader, one Daymar, one Stanton System. A 100 star system world where tens of thousands of players are spread across the universe, all on the same “server”. The holy grail of mmo’s.

[@jeremymcarthur7855]

EVE online with no time dilation!

[@nierdrifter3276]

"Welcome, to the ASOP Vehicle Retrieval System" going to be seared into our minds for years

[@bizzare948]

Love your videos, keep up the good work :D

[@Slay0lot]

So glad they are making progress

[@echo5827]

It definitely works, I mean not really but the progress in just a week is insane. It will definitely be working very well at 1000+ players within a few months. 500 players is entirely playable

[@arcshaw6396]

That’s wierd, I just had a pang of excitement for StarCitizen. I’ve missed you my old friend

[@halomaster3155]

I rly rly like your facecam dude. Idk what it is but it looks actually very cool!

[@jeerree9568]

Star citizen, when its working there is and hasn't been anything like it and probably wont be for decades. It has it's bugs and there are many and they return and get fixed within every update. When you log in and stuff is running decent or even when things are running smooth it has the potential to be the best game of this millenia. For a pledge since 2019 the future of this game is what keeps me interested in gaming. ❤CiD

[@Artics]

that timing was impeccable lmao

[@Tainted-Soul]

Well they did it hats off to CIG. just need to get it as smooth as the 500 player

[@Jewifer333x2]

Its very nice to see 1000 players definitely being viable as they have identified the blocker for it

[@quadrantalerror1121]

Incredible, starts to look like a proper AAA game

[@Mr.Free2Play]

AAAA status soooooon. o7

[@gavinderulo12]

​@@Mr.Free2Playa game that actually warrants the AAAA status.

[@philm325]

@@quadrantalerror1121 SC just cracked the holy grail in game technology, we going way beyond AAA.

[@animusnocturnus7131]

That player gathering looks like the work of Morphologis. XD

[@c-shepard]

Watching all those Carracks fly out of Microtech was amazing. Higher server counts make all the difference.

[@SvalbardSleeperDistrict]

Very positive to see this all work like this.

[@AnthonyJay]

I am SO excited!!!!! And also sad I missed this 😭😭

[@echo5827]

I think it's very likely we see 1000 player shards for 4.0 with 500 each system. Unless CIG isn't ready for that many players since 5x definitely would swamp missions and some shops and all that

[@alexmoon5913]

I think with the player count increases, the amount of Hangars at stations or the amount of stations themselves should be increased to avoid the problem of queues of people trying to call their ships and leaving or entering stations. Also it would be nice to be able to set stations as your primary residence.

[@lvjetboy2908]

Not sure why anyone would want 1000 people trying to ride an elevator...or call for takeoff.

[@vladorkiba1718]

What an amazing time to start getting into this game

[@AlexanderBlake211]

500 or 1000 player servers??... damn they outdid themselves.... that will be a amazing experience.... that is SOOOOOOOOOO awesome.... having more players makes the game more active and more fun... like reallife....

[@Neoxys14]

Not going to lie, CIG gave me a little bit of hope with this test. Hopefully they will be able to stabilize and polish it soon 🙏

[@rustyneedles3743]

what the hell is "CGI" ? and why is "CGI" giving you hope about a "CIG" game test?

[@Neoxys14]

@@rustyneedles3743 typo sorry hahaha

[@mattvmalone]

​@@rustyneedles3743So you understood what he meant even with the typo, yet you came on here to still be an ass? lol ok

[@hawke5311]

Droping med gowns on the floor?! YOU MONSTER! You had your local inventory open, throw it in there so you don't litter the server with your crap and make someone have to clean up after you!

[@BigSneed404]

Blame CIG. Medical gowns should just vanish as soon as they are removed from an inventory, there's no reason for them to exist at all.

[@philm325]

They will have a game mechanic to tidy stuff up, working as a janitor, with NPC also. Some people gotta start at the bottom.

[@Clint_Moto34]

The time where i get back into SC again might come now ! Finally !

[@hayseedfarmboy]

i havent played sense master modes dropped , i had some issues with my key binds i couldn't fix , and been willing put the time in to keep trying considering the state the games in, but main concern the will will server meshing fix the desycn with other players, server frames do look promising as well other players not blinking in and out at the station is a good thing

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

You had more patience than I. But I guess you have also been waiting longer for server meshing than I have. Good to see progress coming in and along. Edit: looks good. I give it 3 out of 4 wings.

[@xenomorphisisdilage472]

It seems the server requirements per every 500 players might be exponential or something like that. Since doubling didn't result in comparable performance. They might need 8 or so servers to get the same type of results as they did in 3:500. So, 8:1000

[@ichitensho7075]

glad to have witnessed it live :3

[@everettumphrey]

That was fun to watch. 😁

[@LeftJoystick]

I got jumpscared by the War Thunder ad lol

[@thePrisoner1000]

haha, I thought that was a bit weird too! Not a big deal, I just didn't expect it.

[@Dr.Kryptanical]

as someone with a a carrack I wish I could of been there 13:18, Seeing that many players go around in the same spot no rubber banding makes me wanna cry, This is the first time i've seen it "A normal day in the life of what a released star citizen would look like" being actually populated not a string of empty ships but many active ships without consequences for performance!

[@rustyneedles3743]

"makes you want to cry" lol, calm down champ, there was at max 30 ships there! ... "that many players" < 🤣🤣 ffs, I pretty certain at this stage you people just hype yourself up over shit that isn't actually happening!

[@realAlpha]

i realy hope they will improve the server fps and go for 60fps for servers fps and combat games require a faster tick/update rate for responsive feedback/gameplay

[@unlimiteduploads2971]

everyone is at shubin on daymar, also its 500 player test and we barely ever got above 250 players, as of rn its 320+

[@DJB10T1C]

there was more than one shard, other servers were nearly capped at 500

[@drewber2006]

They really need to get the ball rolling. I've noticed most of the older backers from 14-16 are starting to get really pissed off at the amount of progress so far. They really haven't achieved much other than taking peoples money.

[@itsbadlols]

Bring 500 to live, continue to make advancements, good job cig, you did it!

[@jamenta2]

Wow - what an improvement. Some programmers got their act together.

[@LuluGamingDK]

Yeah, it's definitely nice, but it's still needs a little bit of work. Those that have slightly lower pc, but still above the minimum were struggling some. In the state, it's in right now. It's not playable on a large scale. It still requires you to be way above the minimum requirements to even run it smoothly. But overall I'd say it was a massive success. They just need to go back and do a lot of optimizing, So it's playable not just presentable. Because that's all this was, a stress test presentation, not a playable presentation. But it's a step in the right direction and i'm excited for the future. 😊

[@MikePhilbin1966]

"I have no words." :)

[@brickstonesonn9276]

I think they can pull off 500 in stanton 500 in pyro and they should. Pyro is way bigger than Stanton. It needs more players. The dream would be 10k players per system that would be sick. it would need more spaceports tho.

[@Fuar11]

I think a little less per system. Considering NPC ships will be a thing

[@DJB10T1C]

no i think they will need 1k per system as a buffer for when orgs have large battles they cant just kick everyone out of the server to accomodate for the battle. plus there could be more than just one battle happening in a system at a time. But when they get the dynamic meshing down im sure it will work atm it is still static server meshing.

[@johnwayne4911]

haven't seen a large 500 man space battle yet..

[@Mr.Free2Play]

Yep , that’ll be the real test of server Meshing

[@yulfine1688]

Getting this to even work is insane alone especially from what a day or two ago where it didn't work... yes adding in combat and such will indeed change that but most players aren't going to be fighting anyways, id keep up with drewski and the few others who do a lot more of the combat testing

[@Niallistical]

Server meshing has been a myth for a decade

[@1aatlas]

Seemed to me like we're finally getting there, i can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

[@Niallistical]

this was something that has been around the corner for 10 years lol

[@philm325]

Has CIG cracked the G O D tech? SC will actually become a real game. Congrats 👏

[@mattvmalone]

it is a real game....lol

[@philm325]

@@mattvmalone nope its a tech demo and nowhere near the final vison of a long term playable game. Server meshing was the make or break technology for it. I've been a backer since 2014, seeing it working like this is unbelievable achievement for CIG.

[@mattvmalone]

@@philm325 Imagine calling it not a long term playable game when it is, and literally thousands of other people disagree with you including most backers who have been playing it long term since the start Also, imagine thowing in the fact like it's not near the final version, as if it's even been the main focus of development-because it hasn't.

[@gametouchcontroller730]

You and I have VERY different definitions of "works"

[@R0CKETMVNTV]

Ah, the classic Eject-Without-Canopy-Opened :')

[@sebc8938]

Those test worked quite well but you have to notice that they were done on new servers so without having to manage trash everywhere in the system. In the current PU, new servers usually work very well with high FPS around 30 but deteriorates quickly. It seems to be also the case during those short tests even if the tests ended before reaching a critical low FPS. Moreover, CIG never explained how static server meshing will manage the beginning of 4.0 when everyone will spawn at the same time in Stanton cities and rush to call a ship and go to Pyro ... The number of players on servers will not be balanced and will change severely on a few time period.

[@Drew-ck4gh]

if i 'm not mistaken the tests ran for 48 hours straight without changing servers and they stayed "stable" so hey, might be mostly fixed

[@OldManGamer65]

Me personally think they should have a server for each Its three terrestrial planets, Hurston (Stanton I), ArcCorp (Stanton III), and microTech (Stanton IV)

[@theSmolniy]

How does the licking to CIG is going? Do you like the taste of their 5th points?

[@trickybusiness1948]

I was given a XL hangar and it's driving me nuts. Kinda jealous of the players who have smaller hangars

[@lloydwilliams2911]

I’ve only been playing this a week and I’m in love with the graphics but the about of bugs and crashes I’ve had makes it almost unplayable. Such a shame but I am going to keep playing as it looks sooooo good. What starfield should have been I feel.

[@darkroute]

Star citizen changed my life how you ask well I now have the best reflex’s due to dodging death from the elevator of doom thank you star buggyzen

[@TheMNWolf]

I had the same thing happen with the ship disappearing to my Carrack on the 500:3 test. I was just about to head up the ramp when it vanished. Ran back to the ASOP and it was back in storage.

[@Xalantor]

CIG really needed this win.

[@dmarshall.dev.]

Whenever I see "meshing works" as a video title, I automatically think it is an Ark video

[@johnwilliams4198]

When Musk launches rockets knowing they will blow up but does it anyway to get the feedback, it reminds me of CIG running tests. When people freak out that it isn't perfect it kinda irritates me. It's a TEST!!! I'm glad that your experience was as good as it was, as that shows GREAT promise for 4.0 and beyond.

[@johnokean8216]

I really miss flying the Aurora. I think I’m gonna hop on and just run some bunkers tn

[@nierdrifter3276]

Can you imagine large scale battlefield games but instead of 64v64 its 500v500

[@Bronwyn031]

After watching this, do I dare say, "I think the y did it!" 500 players is the sweet spot to me at least.

[@LuluGamingDK]

Yeah, I had better performance on the 1000 player 1. Then I did on the 2nd five hundred one.

[@boris3973]

Server FPS is below 10. As long as that is the case, SC is unplayable, if "playing" involves more than flying from point A to point B and includes interacting with the AI (enemies). It needs to be at least a stable 30, all the time.

[@Jewifer333x2]

Server meshing also means they'll be swapping hosting services so server performance will increase a bit more

[@MrGadfly772]

I'm on that edge of buying now that I see this.

[@Sieztt]

wait for 4.0, likely coming beginning of next year

[@Zeonymous]

Lmfao, that was Hippo from Avenger Squadron that attacked you.

[@GhostofZuuzGaming]

We had a 890J with 120 players on it lol

[@DJCroBar]

Now if CIG were smart, they'd iron out these network delays on the 500 mesh and get it out the door to live before CitCon, would be the best goodwill they could ever gain.

[@mattvmalone]

Uh, they know what they're doing, you clearly don't tho

[@DJCroBar]

@@mattvmalone yeh man that's the prevailing sentiment 12 years in, competency

[@mattvmalone]

@@DJCroBar Imagine talking about a subject you know nothing about and pretending you know about it. Interesting.

[@amedlak]

Hey Ollie, will you make GTA 6 wishlist videos like the good old days?

[@Kenditzc]

the part when all the carracks flew by

[@JG26EZ1]

Still going to have to wait forever for this to play like a game.

[@asymDelegate]

The terminals remind me of self service checkouts.

[@aidyFF]

Scorpius probably vanished from previous button spam calling it, you probably hit a delayed store button you didn't see.

[@subjectI17]

1000 players and working? Nice job to CIG!!!

[@Accuracy158]

What I tried flying through the hanger door and it was always really there. I never managed to get out of the hanger and typically didn't make it as far as the hanger.

[@duckcbgaming839]

Genuine question: I used to play SC a lot but have since stopped as I was making no progress and it felt like with all the lag I was just time wasting. Is the game worth redownloading and hopping back on?

[@elvoandro7087]

server meshing is the future of gaming

[@Krieghandt]

they need to move ATC to its own server, and open launch doors when the server load is no more than X

[@MirageRidersofIcarus]

2024 we have cars that parallel park themselves but a game in which you can not auto land a ship in space?

[@fivg811]

Hey, do you think they will rise the price of the game once it's finished?