The Tallest Empire Ever In Stellaris

Stellaris One System Challenge. This challenge requires a very, very Tall build!
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[@christopherg2347]

I once made an Authoritarian Ring world start. I called them "The Lords of the Ring".

[@iskar5598]

God damn I love that

[@draquu1984]

One Ring to rule them all... XD

[@christopherg2347]

@@draquu1984 Back in early megastructures I made a Ring world. Renamed the system "the one Ring". Then I put the super sensor in (could do it back then). Renamed it Mordor because it now had "the lidless eye" too.

[@StDomBz]

If you named your sun The Eye and your leader Sauron, it'd be perfect

[@mesakid71]

I named a ringworld star system "Mairon" once, since that was Sauron's old name before he became evil.

[@boozerbear60]

I can't stop laughing at Guardian of the Arse. Might be because I'm still 12 despite being in my mid 40s.

[@plebisMaximus]

As someone who's 12 at 24, it's relieving to know that'll never change.

[@Dr.exsack]

​​@@plebisMaximusI can confirm your assumption (36😂)

[@BoisegangGaming]

I just noticed that pfft

[@Armand965]

They say men don't grow up it's only their toys are just getting more expensive

[@PigPissBeUponThem]

I’m 31 and it gets me too… idk if that’s worse or not

[@tinobeltran6964]

Felt inspired to try this, spawned in a corner blocked off by a fanatical purifier. Watched helplessly as they slaughtered every other empire I tried to do business with, and finally came for me. All in the span of 10 years. I’ll leave it to the professionals.

[@derpidius6306]

In fairness, Fanatic Purifiers can easily ruin a game if they are neighbors regardless of how good you are, e3po in spite of having done some crazy challenge runs himself couldn't beat a galaxy of them, they are just too strong if no one else is there to check them

[@spacesui-t]

Spawn RNG can be a bitch. But there are some things that can be done, for example: scout ahead and if there are purifiers around don't grab any systems near them and build fleets to discourage them from attacking you. I also had a run with a similar virtual build, got spawned with fanatic pacifists on one side of my empire and purifiers on the other. In a war I would likely lose since I didn't choose that "tall" civic, so I avoided getting close, built up my navy and it worked - they left me be for long enough to found a federation and kick them in the balls.

[@ghfgxijaorgf5393]

@@derpidius6306 its normal to lose against a galaxy full of genocidal empires and even more so if they are machine genocidal empires, the determined exterminators as they are neutral to other genocidal machine empires or even non genocidal machine empires, but the problem is that even a single one is unimaginably powerfull, whenever i see a genocidal empire i delete all of their fllets construction ships and science ships and sometimes delete their alloys every few years for some time as if i dont do anything by the year 2250 they will be a crisis ascendant and will have 10/4 of the galaxy as theirs

[@tunencio7288]

you don´t need to be a begginer to have your day ruined by a purifier empire...just restart if you have them as your starting neighbours...

[@isaacparks968]

First they came for the hive mind, but I was not a hive mind. Then they came for the machine empire, but I was not a machine then they came for me….

[@Maddinhpws]

6:50 The Ringworld would indeed look really fucking flat from their PoV. Like the ringworld is about 2.5 times in diameter that the sun is. Assuming that sun is as big as our sun is. That would put the cirumference of the Ringworld at 10,938,240 Kilometers. Or about 273,000 times as big as the circumference of earth. So looking in any direction, you would see nothing but an flat plane until the atmosphere prevents you from seeing any further.

[@sushijones]

Since there's nothing blocking the sun, there would also be no nights to see the movement of the stars. There's be no real evidence for a round universe until they achieved space flight (presumably right after opening that weird double door in the floor of the lowest level).

[@softonsoftie4581]

@@sushijones man made clouds???

[@Slithy]

Wouldn't that also make said ringworld visible *above* the athmosphere? We can see the moon, right? So they should be able to see distant parts of the ring curving upwards and going around the sun.

[@softonsoftie4581]

@@Slithy maybe i'm not to sure, but i think they might be able to see it? they might even be able to see the other segments on the left and right

[@ryanalving3785]

​@@softonsoftie4581 Probably would depend on how wide the ring was

[@trainheartnet5657]

*sees "Republic" in the civilization name* *sees Corporate government* I love democracy...

[@user-gr5ds8gh6l]

Republic does not mean democracy. It means separation of powers

[@73searching73]

​@@user-gr5ds8gh6lr/woosh

[@guynametyler]

@@user-gr5ds8gh6l Hard to tell if you are a Russian or CIA spam account. Either way the government you work for is neither republic or democratic.

[@rocketblaster8701]

@@user-gr5ds8gh6l America is a democratic republic. there's the joke that went over your head

[@jamescai3490]

@@user-gr5ds8gh6l no, it does not....

[@BoisegangGaming]

7:02 The delivery of "Flat Ringworld Theory" cracks me up.

[@michaelv9833]

It may just be the greatest conspiracy theory ever

[@FuelDropforthewin]

The Space Ottoman Empire. The Spottoman Empire, if you will.

[@joehelland1635]

Dont be silly… the “rest of the galaxy” is clearly hell as its beneath the great flat plane.

[@LG-jn5fx]

I know you cannot do this in a 1 system challenge but when you find Helito and get Sol X as a gift from the Dasha residents it pops into place in the broken section of the ring. Helps you get minerals that are hard to otherwise get with shattered ring.

[@SeyferX]

yes, minerals was the biggest issue

[@thedarkadmiral3627]

Ah yes, the usual "We've investigated ourselves and have found no wrong-doing." Always cracks me up.

[@christophebedouret9813]

The strip world is flat, it's only due to the cruving of space-time due to gravity which makes it circular... Perfectly venisian accurate.

[@brianleidal9725]

1000+ hours in Stellaris and I just learned we can rush agendas. Thanks Montu

[@MontuPlays]

Glad to help!

[@cosmictreason2242]

Not me trying to figure out what an agenda is... galactic senate?

[@Kasaaz]

Rival Megacorp? Space Genoa?!

[@thakard]

I think that might be the only time I hear... "Oh we found the First League. That sucks for us." All the while I have gotten the Yuht three games in a row.

[@thesilentninja9255]

Had a series of games that I basically restarted 8 times after constantly getting the Yuht

[@cosmictreason2242]

@@thesilentninja9255after playing that long?? 😮

[@mdyas1711]

So the Galactic Senate needs to Denounce Space Venice.

[@PerfectAlibi1]

I know right?

[@oathkeeper65]

The Shroud approved of Denouncing Space Venice.

[@jaffarebellion292]

I'm a Spaceship Mormon myself. The New Cheeseland system will be ours, you whaleless heathen.

[@thedarkadmiral3627]

"Let's go full distruptors and smoke the bastards" Love it, makes me wanna buy Stellaris.

[@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu]

"...the artillery bombardment is effective!" Really starting to sound like a Dalek now 😂😂

[@Fishmanistan]

This guy is doing better 40 years into the game than I typically am in the endgame

[@esorevikofficial]

Watching Montu play Stellaris is like watching an artist sculpt a piece into beauty itself

[@bodbyss]

Really hate how paradox decided that starting a megacorp means they should spawn 70% megacorps and hiveminds. NO idea what they were thinking.

[@aecides3203]

I would imagine it was something along the lines of - "TROLOLOLOL TROLOLOL LOL" You can get around it by creating and force spawning custom empires. Makes who you meet a bit predictable, but they can also predictably be someone you can open a branch office on.

[@namedrik5876]

@@aecides3203 I tried that once. It's locked to 2-3 max

[@ВиталийКотиков-т5э]

Well, it's better to have some challenge, isn't it?

[@Max-ql7nn]

@@namedrik5876 Nah you gotta make sure that each force spawned empire is using a specific system layout - i.e. "Random Trinary" as opposed to just "Random". I believe only one force spawned empire can exist per system layout, so you'd have a: Random, Random Binary, Random Trinary Empire etc etc

[@adisca2k]

I once wanted to play a xenophile megacorp, so I sat down and made around 40 custom empires with all the tropes I could think of and set them all to force spawn. Can't remember if any auto generated empires spawned, but most of them were custom. It was the most fun galaxy I ever played in stellaris, with the right ammount of total war and gestalt empires.

[@Itharl]

I love how the randomly created empires so often mirror yours, I've noticed this happens a lot in my games too.

[@leonardobovo269]

Space Venice? finally my city has taken to the stars (appreciate you took the time to research venice :) )

[@sa-jh8is]

He probably just got the idea from Civ V, where Venice is incapable of taking another city.

[@Davin64]

"That still only counts as one!"

[@randalledwards529]

I love doing this strategy with a federation for the trade league effect so you don't need to make consumer goods and catalytic processing so you can keep making more alloys by adding a couple farming districts to the ring worlds. Sure you end up needing to buy minerals if you don't make any subsidiaries, but your economy is a lot more stable overall.

[@marcelgrabowski5939]

There is one thing taller than this. Virtual Birch World!

[@general_wcj9438]

Well giga structures isn't updated to 3.12 yet

[@radordekeche947]

I hadn't thought of that yet - that'd be really OP. Might try that once it updates.

[@mbos14]

@@general_wcj9438 I have been using it and not hitting any real problems

[@momirpetrovic6111]

Although not updated, the mod works but I haven't yet done a run where I got tetradimensional engineering and fixed it

[@Skyler827]

​@@momirpetrovic6111I would not recommend it. It takes like 2 hours of normal Stellaris gameplay in a gigastructures game before the not content comes into play and if there's a bug then that's 2-3 hours down the drain

[@Palmar.001]

I can't prove it, but the game must force spawn mega corps if you are one, no?

[@ClayinSWVA]

Yes, the Devs thinks it's a feature not a bug. So you have to force add empires if you want someone to trade with.

[@spacesui-t]

You could start as an oligarchy and morb into a corp later. Or stay as an oligarchy if the galaxy is infested with corps and hives. Though it des suck, I wish there was a start game rule to deal with it.

[@yautl1]

It wouldn't surprise me, given how the game always seems to disproportionately spawn empires that are ideologically opposed to you.

[@stephenclark4258]

​@@yautl1the amount of starts I have where I'm surrounded by fanatic purifiers has been insane.

[@cosmictreason2242]

Tell you what, this feature sucked when getting the megacorp dlc on xbox. Haven't been able to actually play the role with more than one empire per run

[@billrobert3226]

Crazy part about getting good at this game is that sometimes you don't realize the mistakes you made until like 70 or 100 years later

[@aceofconquest5745]

The Megacorporation aspect reminds me of China's softpower trying to tall build against everyone...

[@MorganSaph]

It's frustrating that anytime you play as an empire type, you get surrounded by mostly the same empire types. The galaxy should be diverse

[@kaldurak]

Your RP/Storytelling is top notch!

[@Kavukamari]

well, the venetians already know they're the center of the flat spherical spacetime, everyone else just needs to learn that fact. Only one civilization can stand at the top of the hierarchy, on the very edge of the universe just beneath the infinite sphere Veneto

[@cosmictreason2242]

Flat space theory is anti science, all educated people know the universe is a hypersphere

[@theshadowrose]

Managed to get a determined exterminator to full virtual ascension by having automod + unitary cohesion and the unity society tech in the same time as your habitat guys monty. You only need 6 worlds above size 20 and to start with a machine homeworld so you have all the build slots unlocked. Why not try that one day? It felt much easier since you have tons of resources to build up the worlds. Its even better if you can assimilate a nearby machine empire into your own pops. You do need the assemblys till virtual tho. Then you just need to revamp your government and species to lower empire size from pops and pop upkeep. Traditions to.

[@MasterElements]

I wouldn't mind seeing an overtuned cybernetic run, either hivemind or regular empire.

[@syveenwolf]

I love how this is literally just the Imperium of Man and holy terra

[@lordcaedus8713]

There are no civilians in the name of reducing lag

[@morganbuhborgan730]

Megacorps have quickly become my favorite way to play this game.

[@mcmarkmarkson7115]

Shattered rings are so good for tall play. Haven't played in years, but still remember how op it was at release.

[@ireneruscelli6496]

it's pronounce "Do'jay" with the stress on the first sillable. Funnily enough about three weeks ago I made a most serene republic as well, must have been the zeitgeist.

[@oBseSsIoNPC]

It blows me away how much more detail and fine tuning there is to do during the game for basically each and every different challenge...but when you master the art of buffs, it really boosts your empire ahead

[@aecides3203]

It would, in an insane way, make sense for the inhabitants of a broken ring world to believe it's flat - anyone who tried to circumnavigate it and prove it was round would literally fall off the edge as ancient people feared would happen if they sailed too far.

[@wilsonw13]

The sense of humor throughout the video was top notch!

[@sytela6346]

Science time 😎

[@Name-ot3xw]

Everyone always points to the wrong side of the ring to be the 'ground'. Think about it, you fall towards the gravity well (sun).

[@Ben_D.]

I guess it is spinning, creating centrifugal force.

[@Name-ot3xw]

@@Ben_D. Ok, but everyone's going to have to get used to walking at a weird angle to the ground. (assuming you built it at earth distance from the sun) You have 1g pulling 'up' towards the sun and ?G pulling you laterally which will add up to an angle.

[@Name-ot3xw]

@@Ben_D. Edited: If the ring is complete and homogenous, the overall gravity of the ring would add up to 0. I tried to come up with a loophole and failed.

[@XxWelch16xX]

thank you for speaking relatively slowly in your video, this allows the auto subtitles to work quite correctly lol

[@hydronpowers9014]

Truly a moral, peaceful, friendly corporation that doesn't do bad things for the sake of profits, right? Right?

[@Beldoras]

8:06 Behold, the Guardian of the Arse!

[@sunname6252]

Seemed like an overall pretty happy ending for the galaxy at large.

[@franksoto4302]

Lmao, I was hoping you played this, it's absolutely broken

[@ShawnGillette]

I have never, and probably will never, play this game...but I gladly watch hour long videos about it on this channel.

[@lsswappedcessna]

At first I wondered why the Venetians didn't see the ringworld's true nature when looking out the window. Then I remembered. Geth do not use windows, as they are structural weaknesses.

[@Gaivs]

Well done! Love the idea that space is below, nice bit of lore that actually makes sense here 😂

[@Faythe1981]

40:21 - You were barely able to hype up the battle then it was over. I couldn't stop laughing as you panned the camera to follow the floating cube in space then it goes pop. LOL!

[@friedipar]

Man, i remember seeing the "true tall" gag years ago. It speaks for the game that it still holds up!

[@jamdonut]

guardian of the arse xD

[@deimama6686]

watching a guy have a fleet of over 100 ships in 2250 and still not being in a ressource deficit makes me wonder how bad i actually am in this game

[@damianjblack]

"we're going to expand the Senate..." Doge" "I *AM* THE SENATE!"

[@OnlineKenji]

After seeing your original arc forge virtualization video, I started playing with shattered ring and guardianship build, but later realized I could get to roughly -95% pop size from pops without guardianship, and instead just be a pacifist. Before anyone says I'm crazy, pacifist (not fanatic) can still militarily vassalize and since I don't care to claim any systems or planets with this build, I don't even feel the war restrictions at all, so it's just -15% to empire size from pops and +5 stability for basically free. Plus when needed, I could make a lifelong friend for my federation in twenty years or so. I was also a xenophile and guardian of the galaxy. Having the 600 federation and 800 galcom fleet size fleets is very helpful, along with my 2500 - 3000 fleet size regular fleets is fun. I did not do it as a megacorp, but without the 150% branch office cost that guardianship gives, you can still be absolute top dog with about 110 empire size (about +1%, science and tradition), but still have tons of systems and branch offices with 6 100% packed and ascended planets. Just have to get lucky to get an actual planet with minerals if you want the > 2k minerals per month.

[@brody3166]

I really hate the ethics bias in the empire spawns, it's super irritating. As a pacifist you seem to get waaay more militarists, hive minds get other hive minds, megacorps get other megacorps, syndicates and hiveminds... it feels like the game just doesn't want you to succeed at all

[@user-not-found-really]

A question! How is it possible to colonise 3 segment already within 15 years? You did not even had 3 Ascension perk. Please tell me:)

[@Kasaaz]

Question: Is there a good way to check if I can get rid of a City district because of technology pushing my build slots past the maximum?

[@danieln7777]

I would like to know this too

[@namedrik5876]

@@danieln7777 Me too

[@spirosma]

Me personally, I just neutron bathe the world's and end up with 120 colonies and 35 planets being terraformed.

[@Kaador]

For the Nerds (that u all are! yes, you too!) : If a real Ringworld exists, that challenge is none, because, the mass and surface is more than 3 million times of our earth. The Idea of it is pure madness (and very satisfying)

[@MartyrPandaGaming]

Ah, yes. The playstyle that turns Stellaris in to a Dungeon Core game.

[@tehbzshadow]

-Min-maxing the game -Get Virtuality ascension -Hit "Restore all jobs" button -2 robo workers on each planet for the next 200 years: drinking champagne while doing nothing

[@robguy8501]

I saw the Acheo-engineers perk at the end there. Were you using it for anything exciting that I missed or just filler because there wasn't much else to take?

[@Gabbo.]

"Space Veneto" Grande vecio :P

[@Theaprilfool2009]

Started out as space Venice, ended up as space Israel

[@that_one_helljumper]

"Rise my champions" me with my vassals when there is a threat

[@infintittie]

The civ 5 reference almost mdde me cry.. venice was my first civ..

[@jeroenslaghout]

E3po's channel has been hacked, anybody can notify him?

[@CanisMythson]

I wonder how powerful this build would be if you weren't confined to one system.

[@meneither3834]

Nice call-back to the old One Planet Challenge of before.

[@Harry_Von_Turbo]

'Guardian of the Arse'. Yes Thumbs up from me.

[@RachelTension]

Wait why could he colonize the other ringworld sections so fast?

[@Nevict]

Stellaris: Vatican challenge.

[@robjohnson3095]

I did a playthru like this, but here's a dirty deed I added: the Genesis Preserve can get up to +50% Unity and Social Sciences if you Uplift enough species! Or course, you need additional planets which you then abandon to pull this off, but.. it rocks!

[@afriendofafriend5766]

I've done one system challenges before and they're a lot of fun.

[@tengkualiff]

Actual fallen empire reawakened

[@robertwadsworth3411]

No matter what skin you hide in your waifu will find you lizard

[@ZakisHereNow]

Flat.. Ring. FLAT… ring… Flat… RING… yup, I see no flaws in that logic!

[@mikellapaslmike6679]

Bro managed to do in 50 mins what the empire couldn't do in 50 years 💀💀💀💀

[@Tim_van_de_Leur]

What a meme, loved it. Great storytelling and roleplay.

[@ishyro8809]

You can get a lot of trade value early on by taking merchant guilds with stuff to increase effective councilor skill like oligarchy and statecraft trad tree

[@balticpagan1495]

i wish ring world start would also give you void dweler trait, as it would make sense that your species would live in artifical habitats outside of ringworld, as its closest to easaly make simular living standarts

[@SoulRevenent1556]

How did you get over 150 pops by year 40? Doing this same build (to the best of my knowledge from the video) im only sitting at around 70 pops by year 35. Am I doing something wrong? Is there something about pop assembly speed im missing? I have almost 1000 hours in this game and there still always things for me to learn apparently!

[@Blackvenom011]

It amazes me the level of detail you do with everything that i know is there but never bother with cuz... ? No idea..

[@barryevans791]

Oh, my lord. This video just reminded me that you are able to utilise unemployed pops using living standards.

[@ciurco16]

I'm from Veneto and I love you ❤

[@billrobert3226]

Trying to follow along, i ended up with about half your unity output and half your worker output 😂😂

[@DarkPagan]

Ahh the contingency as in a giant ghost from destiny looking to res a planet lol

[@johnbeer4963]

Congratulations are in order. I usually consume KZbin at 1.4x-1.6x speed. I just turned this video to 0.75x because I just can't follow it in my current shell shocked, post high stress state

[@LINKfromTHElegendOFz]

I miss when science ships could assist in research when in orbit, it was such a nice use of the ships when done with them. One day I hope that ships can be scrapped by the player for a percentage value back, instead kf it being done through caravaneers.

[@WesleyAbell-si5kw]

If you play as a wide civ name it astro Britannia.

[@TheRealEtaoinShrdlu]

Twinings Intergalactic.

[@MissNebulosity]

Exposé on how broken virtuality is.

[@DillonMeyer]

Jokes on you, this is how I normally play 4x and Civ games cause my multimanagement skills are less than negative.

[@OldnGold]

I wouldn't say that this empire is the tallest. I knew a guy who was 6'8 and he is way taller.

[@the3rdid485]

I was thinking wouldn't the space ships just tell them it's not a flat ring? Then I realized we literally have space ships telling us the same thing and flat earthers still exist 🤦🏻

[@MontuPlays]

Lmao

[@unknow11712]

you need more cap limit for Juggernauts xD

[@Yojimbothewookie]

Half the galaxy being trade empires or hive minds is one of the most infuriating things about stellaris. Like I get the game wants to make it harder and give you competition, BUT THEN THERE'S NOTHING TO COMPETE OVER! I'd love to play mega corps but just knowing that chances are I won't be able to play with one of their key mechanics is why I rarely touch Stellaris.

[@alecchristiaen4856]

OSP Blue would be proud.