Star Citizen - Taurus vs Andromeda Overview (Constellation Class)

[@BizzMRK]

That tractor turret will be a massive advantage for most gameloops. Especially for hauling with the upcoming cargo reworks where we have to manually load/unload the ship and move stuff from/to the hangar with the new cargo elevators. It can move the bigger 8,16 and 32 cargo containers which the handheld tool can't. But even for combat missions it makes stripping weapons off of destroyed ships for some extra profit a lot quicker by just lowering the cargo lift, ripping the weapons off with the tractor turret and throwing them on there without having to EVA. Same with hull scraping and mining since you can quickly move the rcm boxes and ore saddlebags over.

[@wrextheblind3787]

Yea my thoughts exactly I’m like that tractor beam is going to be very helpful but a part of me is like, yea that’s cool but also more missiles go boom lol

[@HighmageDerin]

Here's the thing though eventually all these ships are going to be able to trade out their turrets with those tractor beams. That is the goal at any rate.

[@starcitizenshenanigans]

Hello from your FB messenger friend who just "lost his ship". Nice review, I never realised that the two connies were actually not the same size.

[@MrSlvr2000]

Neither did I till I started making the video and doing the research. I'd love to have all 4 lined up one day.

[@moonryder203]

I chose the Taurus due to extra cargo and I don’t really care for the snub fighter. The tractor beam will be important in future patches.

[@MrSlvr2000]

Well if the snub fighter actually worked it would help. But when the tractor beams come in.....hands down the best ship out of that line up.

[@varidian694]

I have a taurus. 2 rhino repeaters 2 lightsrike cannon Top is a disruption repeater. When I have a top gunner and a wing man for fight support we are able to basically turn off enemy ship systems and blow bits off them with a mixed rate of fire and dps. Works a charm

[@AXC629]

Appreciate the reviews. I havent checked these two ships out in years. 👍

[@MrSlvr2000]

Thanks I appreciate it!!

[@chaoscorgi9348]

Taurus pilot here-what a lot of folks don't realize, is not only does the Taurus carry a P-52 Merlin snub just fine in the cargo bay, that you can fly in and out easily in space and with a little difficulty in atmo, but it can also fit the P-72 Archimedes from the Phoenix, abeit not completely level. This lets you avoid the wonky docking mechanics that have plagued the other variants completely, AND gives you that epic hangar feeling you would usually have to get a Starlifter for.

[@MrSlvr2000]

Man, that's not a bad idea at all, this will need to be tried soon 🤣. Thanks for the comment!!

[@chaoscorgi9348]

Just keep it under 25 m/sec going in the first time(s). The video should be great. ;)

[@eagle_rb_mmoomin_418]

Fury fits fine.

[@Pappy_1775]

Here is what most people don't know, the Phoenix has the exact same size cargo bay as the Andromeda. So the only difference between the Phoenix and the Andromeda is the Phoenix has fewer missiles, that's it, even the turrets and weapons load-outs are the same. (One minor difference is that Andromeda has a Merlin and the Phoenix has an Archimedes.)

[@Mordekaiserize]

Actually has 6 scu less it’s 90

[@talentedpigeon3296]

Don't forget the extra 20k hp the andromeda has. Toughest of the bunch

[@Pappy_1775]

@@talentedpigeon3296 According to Erkul (and other sites) the Phoenix and the Andromeda have the same hit points. There is even a Reddit thread citing that the Phoenix has more hit points for “executive safety” according to CIG but I never trust Reddit so I’ll go with Erkul on this.

[@vertigo6982]

@@MordekaiserizeRSI site specs state 96 SCU for Aquila and Andromeda. Phoenix listed as 80 SCU and Taurus at 168 SCU.

[@g8trdone]

I jumped up to the Andromeda but my playstyle leans towards cargo and vehicles and I regret it. I love that idea for the Andromeda-duo, lasers topside / ballistics under. That's some fine thinkin' right there friend...

[@MrSlvr2000]

Thank you for the kind words I appreciate it

[@joshfrombkln]

Thanks for the vid, this cleared up a lot of questions I had. 👍

[@MrSlvr2000]

Absolutely! Thanks for the comment!

[@Lambonights]

I like all the Connies, even with the arrival of other ships in this size class, I never melted mine. Aquila owner here!

[@ChrisT-pv7nk]

In my opinion Taurus with a Snub Fighter at the back would have been awesome. Sad they took the Snub away from it.

[@andresisthename]

The reason for it is because the area where the snub ducks is being used for the contraband cargo area in the Taurus, which will see some heavy use in the future once it's properly implemented.

[@DerDrecksack87]

I love the Taurus because it does not have a fighter stuck in its butt, never liked the looks of the Merlin being in there😂

[@caseytwill]

I like the way you did the comparison! Do you have an Aquila and/or Phoenix you could add to the mix?

[@MrSlvr2000]

I actually do not....the Taurus was borrowed so don't even have access to that any longer. Would love to do a video with all 4 at some point. Would be sweet. Thanks for the comment!

[@slandshark]

I know the Taurus doesn't have the lower turret, but it looks like the actual seat is there in the cockpit. Or is that a seat for a tractor beam? Think I heard you mention that in the video. I mentioned on your last video that I want to grind for the Andromeda using my Titan Avenger, but I've never tried doing commodity trading before (buy low/sell high). I suppose the Andromeda has plenty of room for that too.

[@MrSlvr2000]

The Andromeda can do some trading. Not as well as the Taurus but it can handle some. Also the Andromeda can carry a full moles worth of quant or material. So there is that as well. Plenty of uses for it. The lower turret on the Taurus does go down but it's for the tractor beam that is not currently working or in use gameplay wise.

[@Ghlain]

The lower turret on the Taurus is in fact a tractor beam. Which is great cause its neat to the cargo elevator.

[@shawnc5188]

Any Constellation can do bounty hunting up to ERT, especially as you can swap the top guns to S5 laser canons, and shoot Hammerheads beyond their 1.4km gun range. You have to learn capacitor management and how to use its shields, as Connies aren’t really manoeuvrable, so you need to face tank.

[@andresisthename]

In 3.18 ballistics are going to go through shields and straight into the armor of the ship. So the the 10,000 HP points of the Taurus vs the 20,000 Hp of the Andromeda will make become a huge difference in favor of the Andromeda with the later being able to withstand twice the damage as the former.

[@MrSlvr2000]

They also keep changing it so who knows what we will actually end up with.

[@dragonscornergaming]

Both solid choices my friend!

[@TheTurbanatore]

Do you have a video that goes over the differences between all the constellation variants?

[@MrSlvr2000]

Not all of them, as I don't have access to the Phoenix

[@Zany_98]

Man I'm so torn on getting either of these, the extra cargo on the taurus is really appealing but those extra missiles on the andromeda seem insanely useful in dogfights

[@MrSlvr2000]

I'll give you my two cents......get the Taurus.....missiles are really not in the best place at the moment. If down the road you just need the extra missiles then it's an easy upgrade. The tractor beam is very useful when getting loot off bounties. Unless you just someone who always has two people with them and just need that extra bottom turret.

[@Ghlain]

For the Taurus the lower turret will be a tractor beam and the rear cargo room where the snub used to be is shielded cargo.

[@sasori100x]

I thought the whole hull of the Taurus was shielded against detection scans

[@MrSlvr2000]

Not that I'm aware of, just the rear section.

[@loadnlock357]

I had the Andromeda before the last reset. This time around though im going with the Taurus. The combat capabilities are roughly the same accept for the missle payload on the Andromeda. Which at first i thought was good until i realized size 1 missles were pretty useless unless you hit small ships with them. I noticed i was taking them out with guns far more often. The snub fighter is janky to use and has no real purpose yet. The Taurus however is almost the same ship with fewer missiles, a larger cargo hold and a tractor beam which unlike the snub fighter, will come in handy. Also the cheaper price tag is great. All in all its cable of solo and group play, salvage missions and cargo hauling. If i had the choice of just one ship i think the Taurus is it.

[@MrSlvr2000]

The center hull of the Andromeda can take more pounding it's like 10,000 more HP. BUT you are more than likely going to have an engine blown off first anyway so no matter in the current state.

[@durtyred86]

The Taurus was an absolute steal at $150 when it first released. I call it the cutless black on steroids lol.

[@MrSlvr2000]

$150 would have been a great price for it.

[@Quazgar_of_the_North]

it's still way cheaper than the Andromeda

[@duesternis5768]

lower turret (Andromeda) vs. lower Tractor Beam (Taurus) + Snubfighter (Andromeda) vs. extra illegal Cargo Area (Taurus) + 28 Missiles Tier 1 (Andromeda) vs 80 more SCU in Cargo (Taurus)

[@Un_Debunkable]

Does anyone know if the snub ships trigger missile defense systems? Like, if you're hacking a comm array, can you use a snub ship to get there instead of a bike? Right now I use the x1

[@MrSlvr2000]

Excellent question, the last time I was in a snub was like 3.17 and it did trickle them as it's still a ship.

[@Un_Debunkable]

@@MrSlvr2000 bummer. It'd did seem too good to be true.

[@Tomcatntbird]

I have both, upgraded my Max to a Taurus as soon as it was flyable. I switch components between the two of whichever I fly. But I have heard the size 5 weps all do the same damage with massively decreased range from 4700m to where the size 4's hit atm. So y not keep the gimbaled size 4's till the range of the size 5's come back?

[@shawnc5188]

Not sure what you mean, as the S5s laser cannons haven’t had a 4.7km range in at least a year, but they still out range and out power s4 gun weapons, so you can stand off outside 1.4km and blow up Hammerheads. Maybe you’re thinking of the AD5B Gatling, which has horrible dispersion beyond 1km.

[@davids9577]

i keep coming back to the Tarus or Phoenix

[@3DMakersEmporium]

are you more likely to get fired upon on one vs the other from pirates and the like?

[@MrSlvr2000]

I'd say Taurus....more cargo.

[@wrextheblind3787]

I am not sure if I am the only one but in my Torres, the top three center screens do not turn on anyone know why that is

[@MrSlvr2000]

Something I'd have to check

[@DefaultSeal]

A higher quality setting in the graphics option would solve this problem.

[@MrSlvr2000]

@@DefaultSeal the screens not popping up? I don't think graphics has anything to do with that.

[@DefaultSeal]

@@MrSlvr2000 The quality option is in name only, but in reality it affects the drawing distance of detailed HUDs, etc.

[@ThermonuclearGaming1]

Great video

[@MrSlvr2000]

Thank you!

[@MrUnbekabal]

I just got the taurus. I've been marginally successful on haul missions, I wish she turned faster.

[@lukas6485]

The Taurus doesn’t have a kitchen / toilet?

[@MrSlvr2000]

It should have the same utilities, not that its going to matter anytime soon though.

[@LCreeper575]

Nice

[@mattiber2558]

Aaaahhh, but what about the Aquila? : )

[@MrSlvr2000]

🤣 would love to do a video on all 4 but at the time only had access to the two. Aquila is cool so is the Phoenix

[@FrozenKnight21]

If the Taurus could fit a Balistia or a Nova tank then it would a real contender, but as it is it doesn't really have enough of an advantage to swap out from the Andromeda.

[@MrSlvr2000]

I can second that, needs roof clearance. I like missle fodder myself.

[@sirAlexander_T]

Andromeda all the way! .. love the snub fighter

[@Marlax-101]

I still love the andromeda but after thinking about these 2 for a while this is what i do to compare them. since i am making a military fleet the constellations are the blackhawk helicopter. guns and missile. able to fight bigger ships but not the best, transports troops, supplies, vehicles, Taurus lets you haul more and retreive destroyed vehicles and the andromeda lets you have more guns armor and bring a small air force. essensially if you are running a few andromeda use the taurus. if you are running a fleet of andromeda as like a truck convoy use the andromeda. 10x andromeda gives 500X missiles and 10 snubs. basicly a anti air emplacement and a cargo truck in one.

[@Boss-zo4lw]

Taurus all the way, easy.

[@obiwonton369]

Not a Connie fan but do believe the Taurus is better value for $$$ and for cargo game features coming soon its a slam dunk.

[@MrSlvr2000]

As long as the soon is actually soon 😂

[@CozyHumanoid]

Beautiful ship problem is I dont have friends in the game to ride it with me. :(

[@MrSlvr2000]

You can join the channel discord.....there are people around to play with. discord.gg/FD7Acv63

[@CozyHumanoid]

@@MrSlvr2000 awesome. Gonna check this out!!

[@Cherronova]

I wish the andromeda had significantly less cargo and more gunship capabilities.

[@MrSlvr2000]

I'd like the ability to add larger missles.

[@Cherronova]

@@MrSlvr2000 or more missiles! Like, I kinda hate that it’s designated as a gunship like the redeemer yet feels insanely weaker compared to it.

[@joeylk4d4]

Right, a "gunship" should have more guns. If the Andromeda had 2 more guns it'd win over the Taurus. Whether those 2 extra guns were an added remote turret in the rear above the systems room or just 2 more mounted for the pilot, it'd actually wear the gunship title better. Especially when the tractor gets implemented, Taurus will be one of the best all around ships in game if not the best.

[@america2793]

Taurus wins for me