Star Citizen: Updated info for the Pioneer

[@BlackLethalDragon]

The Pioneer is in sentially, a mobile base. The abillity to manufactor items, vehicles, base build XL structures and being able to extract resources when landed is a HUGE boon. You dont even need to move anymore, leaving it on the ground would grand you quite the resources. Amazing!

[@Cross_111]

Thats the wonderful part - you can of course move if necessary In my opinion surviving in the verse will be a matter of being ready to move to avoid opponents Thats one reason why i love my BMM 😊

[@cmdr_thrudd]

Yeah loving the re-concept. Enough that I'm considering how I can add one to my fleet. Galaxy was earmarked as my base builder but maybe I can stretch the finances a wee bit this IAE :D

[@Volf1916]

would be. someday, if it is not shelved like the BMM. The massive hauling, mobile base, supermarket.

[@Cross_111]

@Volf1916 i am a patient man luckily 😸

[@mustrumridcully3853]

@@cmdr_thrudd Expect it to go up as they have increased the capability and size to Capital.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

I LOVE the changes they made to the Pioneer and I'm so excited to get it. The whole remote base concept, even down to being able to extract from ground resources, is so awesome. I love everything they did, on paper at least.

[@sigmamale6128]

Yeah personally I think the new concept is far nicer than what it used to be. The whole “base 3d printer” was stupid.

[@samheini]

I think so too, ​@@sigmamale6128 They could've just kept the cool angular surfaces, now it has no uniqueness at all. Basic af.

[@mustrumridcully3853]

It is a Limited hull, plus only ever Warbond - no CCU

[@TCWponyBoi]

Good to see you pumping out content. Love everything about your work. You're the go to guy when looking to buy a new ship.

[@lawofthewestgaming]

Much appreciated!

[@fredashay]

I hope base building works the same way as in Subnautica.

[@grifson_1065]

kinda seems like it based on what theyve showed. just not as fast

[@merclord]

I can't wait to get my hands on this ship. I hope I can use it along with blueprints to crank out some customized ships and sell them.

[@Plexiei]

soonTM

[@firstjayjay]

Ofc u can manage it solo. But u need to go mine solo in the Orion before you can craft

[@merclord]

@@firstjayjay yup. And they didn't mention it but I'm sure we could mine asteroids also.

[@BlueCheever]

Cannot wait for this ship to be in game. Will be trying hard to win the refresh war to pick one up this year 😂

[@RainOfFodderco]

I hope it being the gate to xl basebulding makes them reconsider it's limited hull.

[@mustrumridcully3853]

@@RainOfFodderco Why would they? That's more of a reason to keep it Limited and no CCU.

[@mattsully5332]

I know some people are upset at the redesign, but I really like it better.

[@David-876]

One absolutely crazy thing I don't think you mentioned in the video, with the 20% increase in size, the new dimensions that were given to us at Citizen Con places the Pioneer at just a bit bigger in all directions then an Idris!

[@serrethindustries9468]

*dusts off old helmet. "So the F5 wars are still raging, huh?" *Cracks knuckles "Looks like I've got one more fight left in me.

[@mustrumridcully3853]

Expect a price increase along with capability and size.

[@jqstar1786]

I’d have taken the arm and made it go vertical to be the main construction control room. I love that the landing gear is also resource extraction as well.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

My ONLY regrets with this ship is it is like the only one I own that is not LTI. And I even bought it as warbond which seems kind of odd to me. But really, 5 years insurance is good enough anyway. At SC's development rate +_ years I'll probably be dead anyway :p Other than that this is honestly one of the most unique ships and the one I am without a doubt most excited for as a whole.

[@NephritduGrey]

Given that the only difference LTI vs *random number of months* will be an unknown credit amount one (optional) has to pay it doesn't seem to make much difference anyway. After all each store bought ship comes with infinite warranty but not infinite Insurance, hence the ship can never be truly lost if bought via the store. Also as the Pioneer covers most of the resource/crafting game (or could make the ships/vehicles/tools) needed to do so it seems like a good investement to get ingame too, especially with the ingame earnable warranties basically turning an ingame bought ship into a store bought one. Unless ofc the ingame economy will be so fricked one can't reasonably ensure the ship and still make a profit off it.

[@DavidBennell]

Why does mine have LTI then? It doesn't even say if it is warbond or not, I can't remember, I bought it like 5 seconds after they first announced it.

[@NephritduGrey]

@@DavidBennell I'd assume there have been sales for an IAE or something similar?

[@JohnVanderbeck]

@@DavidBennell Maybe I didn't buy it at the very first sale, I don't know. I mean this is what 7 years ago? I'm old :p Mine says "Standalone Ship - Consolidated Outland Pioneer Warbond Anniversary 2017" and has 60 months insurance. My memory says I bought it during the citizen con sale just after the base building panel and its announcement, but heck if I know. Still warbond, at least these days, always had LTI.

[@lawofthewestgaming]

I'm in the same boat. I wasn't really very interested in it when I thought all it could do was create the first Gen pre fab bases that were used to make outposts with. But after a DEV "hinted" that they are going to be used for far more than that I picked one up using store credit during the IAD of 23'. So it's the only ship in my fleet that doesn't have LTI. True you can't use a CCU to upgrade to it right now, But it used to be the same for the Polaris, but they changed that. And I'm pretty sure that they'll change it so that you can eventually upgrade to a Pioneer as well at some point. Just give it a little time.

[@gregbromley152]

I am looking forward to deep diving into construction and seeing the mining and salvage gameplay loops meet at that new building gameplay loop and then seeing what all we can do with it or coax out of it.

[@MathiasBronnes]

I LOVE the new look they gave it,

[@floki6548]

Such an amazing profil ship!

[@restwellcloud-ix8ee]

Im really digging this ship.

[@Mechwarrior3025]

as soon as it's flight-ready, i'll get it out of the buyback again. And a c2 Hercules looks downright tiny in comparison.

[@k0mm4nd3r_k3n]

I just love these videos you got going Mr. Law man: Such a great vibe, so informative and so short 😍

[@k0mm4nd3r_k3n]

Your videos are so easy to share with friends 🙏💪

[@lawofthewestgaming]

Glad you like them!

[@mustrumridcully3853]

It was worth my $850 back in 2017 - I just wish I had picked up more of the land grants than the 5 I have.

[@justinjacobs1501]

Five more than what I have. Was on hiatus from the game when they first put it up for sale.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

I only have the one that came with the Pioneer. I didn't even know you could buy extras, or at least I don't remember :)

[@JohnVanderbeck]

850? I don't know if mine was warbond or something but I just checked mine and I paid 650 for it.

[@mustrumridcully3853]

@@JohnVanderbeck No idea, they were only ever Warbond, but mine is listed at $850, although they might have increased it since?

[@mustrumridcully3853]

@@justinjacobs1501 Expect it to go up a lot more, it's drastically underpriced for what it now offers. I'll be picking up a Starlancer BLD too. They look good.

[@comicmoniker]

One thing I'm not clear on is what that front section that doesn't have an interior cutaway on the deckplan is used for. I assumed it was cargo storage, but it seems that's all along the port side? Is it just mysterious "industrial machinery" spaces?

[@Jezato]

Hey where'd you find that picture at 3:32? Love your videos dude, always straight to the point and no messing about.

[@lawofthewestgaming]

Thanks, I actually don't remember where that one came from, I've been collecting SC ship images for quite a while now. : )

[@Volf1916]

Wonder If I will still be alive when this concept finally reaches an EVO patch or if the game is still in development or on one of those huge discount sales events because the concept did not make it into the game until several years after the release?

[@RavingNut]

I want an 'emergency boarding' mission for this (and many other cap size) ship(s).

[@aesericho3651]

I would have assumed the Orion would have the largest drones.

[@mustrumridcully3853]

Maybe they will be - but only for mining. These XLG are for construction.

[@GreatWolfBalistic]

I would love a combat varriant carrier. Make the top all large individual landing pads with elevators. Such a great shape.

[@tje.o.a5477]

That would sell like mad! it would probably be one of the best carriers in the verse!

[@NephritduGrey]

HM, the CNOU fleet would have to expand a bit for that though, but maybe they do get a heavy fighter which might fit nicely as support. Basically the escort carrier blueprint/doctrine. Or if CNOU gets resource ships miner/refiner/salvager/builder and then make it a mini Starbase of sorts for a more external gameplay (like org groups or something) .

[@tje.o.a5477]

@NephritduGrey yes!

[@ElmoBiggins]

Good lord I wish I could CCU to this, I cant justify the single purchase but I could chain to it, A man can dream I suppose haha

[@zantrag]

Any ideas; what rooms and equipment will be in the front 1/4 of the ship, forward and to the sides of the drone room?

[@robertjohnston8531]

I was wondering that myself. Possibly the refineries?

[@Rorschach-test]

3:40 Is that a small landing pad on its starboard side deck?

[@lawofthewestgaming]

It is!

[@dr.warner2288]

are they raising the price from 850$?

[@RobertP-zk8vh]

need a variant that uses this hull but as a carrier

[@STRFDR]

want it so bad

[@mustrumridcully3853]

F5 battle - Warbond only, no CCU or credit.

[@StarGlazedDonut]

corsair to pioneer upgrade here i come

[@Kurashinno]

Can't CCU to anything above $750

[@Clearwood_]

@@Kurashinno I thought it was you can't CCU to anything over a $1,000?

[@mustrumridcully3853]

There has never been a CCU offered for the Pioneer - Warbond only, not even credit.

[@Kurashinno]

@@Clearwood_ check CCU game. Look at the CCUs when selecting a ship to chain to. Pretty sure it stops at the $750 mark

[@Clearwood_]

@@Kurashinno "BigTO-CIG (Cloud Imperium Games) Oct 31, 2024, 08:02 CDT Hello, Clearwood! Thank you for contacting RSI Concierge Services. There is no CCU monetary limit. There are certain ships that cannot be upgraded to or past once you have upgraded to them but there is no monetary limit. In regards to the CNOU Pioneer, the Pioneer is not offered as a CCU. When available, the CNOU Pioneer is only offered as a stock limited standalone ship or as part of a ship package. Be sure to let me know if you need any further assistance, and have a great day! Sincerely, BigTO 🎩 Player Support Team Lead RSI Player Relations" This is the response I got when asking about being able to CCU to the Pioneer.

[@TheSiriusEnigma]

I don’t like it. It’s super useful. Especially its ability to craft medium ships and smaller internally. But is just a series of fabricators. As for the construction drones, any drone carrier can use them. The Galaxy was supposed to have it. And I think that the Galaxy should get 1 XL building drone with 300 ish cargo. That’s 1/4 of a pioneer. And would be happy with that.

[@mustrumridcully3853]

It appears only the Pioneer will get the XLG drones - if only because they are the only ships to make Starbases. Dont expect a Galaxy to get anything more than the Starlancer BLD - except possibly more cargo.