Star Citizen - Why we can't find items

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Today I want to talk about the availability of items in shops and how to improve this system. Enjoy!
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[@patrikadolfsson121]

I'm a scavenger, lots of stuff to find in the Stanton system.

[@Teddy-tx7wb]

well, seeing as I am principally a cargo trader. I like the idea of items being made in factories, and distributed by people like me. yes, remote systems may have to pay a F..k-ton for items that are dirt-cheap elsewhere to make it worth my while to haul it to the ass-end of the universe. but THAT is economics. The denizens of Pyro, normally being criminal gangs, will likely have to have some legitimate operators within their orgs who can trade in civilized society and bring stuff to them in Pyro. OR perhaps there will be an org or syndicate of traders who are "off limits" for harassment in Pyro (by common accord) due to the criminal orgs realizing that the flow of certain items is more valuable than Pirating everything.

[@circuitguy9750]

I suspect by 1.0 all of that will change and the landing zones of Stanton will have basically every armor. Maybe some minor variation like "Arctic" only in New Babbage, high end tourism in Crusader, Industrial in Lorville, etc.

[@Arbyfig]

I hope there will be an armor catalog that you can 'buy online' and armor stocked nearby would be delivered sooner or if there is a local store basically instantaneously. I mean I am not expecting a physicalised ship to transport it or anything, but it is annoying to spend potentially hours to get the sets I want. Besides, why isn't there a space amazon. Edit: I do want to also consider for gameplay reasons that some products you do need to go in person, like really specialised stuff, such as maybe a special material like gold armor or something, or maybe illicit goods that aren't exactly legal. but I think for the base level gear, we should be able to amazon order those stuff.

[@Challenge72]

Until SC has an actual economy, even doing the idea you described would still depend on preset values for everything -- much like now. I can go into any armor shop and purchase a full set of all three classes. It may not be the "rare" one I want, but it will be basic for its weight class. You can buy all but the rarest somewhere, but the more desirable, the fewer places. With everyone able to make multiple millions every hour, just making things expensive enough to be a challenging goal would be a punishing grind for millions of aUEC for a set of legs. What we have is good for now. And Hero level armor should never be cheap, nor easy.

[@essentialasa]

I think they just arent dealing with it right now. They want enough there to ensure there's something for people to do but it's probably another "thing they'll deal with once major systems are done" 🤷‍♂️

[@AaronAlso]

Chris calls it game play; wasting your time or generally inconveniencing the player. #bestspacesimever

[@ddavis5442]

Thing that Irks me with armor is colors. Makes no sense to not have a full set of matching armor at each location. Sure put different armor at different locations, but the color thing doesn't make any sense, its just forced time sinks. Usually leads to people just buying a mismatch of armor, and using the first thing they can kill.

[@45tankhead]

Great video!

[@apethae1]

Honestly why I haven't bothered to boot up SC regularly in over a year - it's become a 'suit up and prepare' simulator, with prep for getting a basic mission done (such as the ones to secure the F7A skin) taking multiple hours, only to have the mission bug out and turn into a wipe. The devs don't respect my time as a player, so I opt to spend it elsewhere.

[@LucidStrike]

It's not a matter of respect. Persistence will eventually allow folks to minimize prep time when dolks can ACTUALLY just logout in their ships anywhere. It's a tech maturity issue.

[@Mike-fg5bz]

Once it goes live you basically live in and survive in your ship or your own base

[@apethae1]

@@LucidStrike If they respected our time we wouldn't have to walk to a physical shop that only carried a very limited selection of the items in the game - we'd just select the stuff we needed from a screen and have it delivered to our inventory. They made the decision to do all that instead of supplying the basic level of convenience we enjoy in 2024. Apparently the Amazon level of logistics has disappeared in the SC universe.

[@vorpalrobot]

​@@apethae1you're describing the basis for Star Citizen. You might as well complain the game has space ships in it. It's Chris Roberts...

[@DigiBentoBox]

Star Citizen is and never was intended to be quick jump-in action like COD in space. That’s what Arena Commander is for. The majority of the complaints are from people who never really understood the vision of the game, and then claim devs are “disrespecting” their time. It’s not about respect, it’s creating a game with stakes like a survival game/simulator/MMO hybrid that SHOULD be challenging. The fact that people fear death because of the pain in the ass of suiting up, is the game operating as intended. The bugs are an issue for sure, but in an Alpha, feature development takes precedence to debugging. It WILL get better. Many players don’t have the patience to wait till then and that’s totally fine, in a decade when we have our debugged full release game we can all come back and reminisce about the buggy difficult days lol.

[@Mgtow_Monk]

Eventually you'll be able to have stuff delivered to your Hangar/Hab if you want. Just like now, there are plenty of misc stuff to find and things to discover and now you can either pay to have your freight loaded or load it yourself.

[@vik12D]

I thought spreading out items was an attempt at "content" making you see more of the verse to get them. No one ever figures out that grind doesn't equal content. Reputation lock would be nice, if I had enough Crusader Security, I could just buy Crusader Morozov. I mean, players with rep would turn around and sell it for a profilt, but I could also choose to grind and get it without them.

[@hectorheathcote9495]

I rarely buy armor. This patch, it seems to be cheaper and easier to just farm Artimex lodestone and executive armor from the distribution center missions on Hurston. Once the devs get the economy straightened out, things should get better.

[@asiftalpur3758]

how?

[@hectorheathcote9495]

@@asiftalpur3758 How do I farm the Artimex? Simple. Take the 16k mission to repel outlaw incursion, go to the distribution center, and loot the dead Hurston guards. The bad guys are usually kind enough to take them down so you don't have to. =P

[@asiftalpur3758]

@@hectorheathcote9495 how do I reach those mission sets? I've done a few hurston bunker missions yet I've not gotten any distribution center combat missions. I appreciate your help

[@hectorheathcote9495]

@@asiftalpur3758 Have to work your way through the trainee level and they will start showing up.

[@GabrielVitor-kq6uj]

I tend to only use Novikov with a cool helmet I usually find on outposts and caterpillar wrecks. One single core 40+ protection armor which protecst me jsut fine when Im in MT (I almost never go to Hurston anyway) its quicker to put on, quicker to stock up, and paired with a cool military helmet.. I think Im well served

[@Arystanbek98]

I wish there was a space Amazon or something

[@DigiBentoBox]

There is! It’s called VoyagerDirect, it’s in-lore and even shows up in SQ42’s trailer. But until they have NPCs to do deliveries and meshed servers able to handle the NPCs, they are putting it on the back burner for now. But it’s definitely been concepted.

[@csdigitaldesign]

@apethae1 that "F7A skin" was not a skin but the actual F7A mk2. Literally the military version of the ship. Better in nearly every way.

[@karakarakiri9568]

Time to get ready and actually play is far too long in SC. I can only play a few days before getting bored, because most of my time will be repition of waking up, elevators, walking to x, elevators, flying to x, elevators, fighting/elevators/carrying with beams/elevators/mining with beams/elevators/recycling with beams/elevators/healing with beams, flying to y, elevators, buying stuff to eat, elevator, flying to x again, elevators and probably dying to a bug and taking more elevators between 2 beam gameplays. When i think about it it's crazy that fighting is just another beam gameplay, we have (bugged) missiles after all ! Elevators.

[@FreebirthBoccara]

Your just describing gamplay.... this was never suplosed to be a fast pased game. Its intentional with tbe time it takes to do things.

[@DigiBentoBox]

Lol I love how everyone parrots the same buzzword complaints like “beam gameplay”. The majority of games are what people call “beam gameplay” but seemingly only SC catches flak for it.

[@skydvlful]

Star citizen is very time consuming. I get frustrated with spending an hour just gathering/finding items.

[@sennemaa5976]

Agree 💯

[@Seeker7172]

SC seems very preoccupied with simulating every little chore to make the game very realistic, but forgets that at the end of the day -- it's supposed to be a game.

[@FreebirthBoccara]

Its the game i backed and the game i want.

[@BuzZzKiller]

You would think if someone ordered a set of armor for their shop, they'd at least order a FULL SET of matching armor. Color AND Model. The current system is stupid and an obvious waste of time. I shouldn't have to go to 3 stations to find a set of color matched yellow armor.

[@FreebirthBoccara]

So... do it once and buy 20 of them at a time.. your acting like ylur expe ti g to go to 3 locations every time you want to load up for a fps mission.

[@asiftalpur3758]

​@@FreebirthBoccaraoh shut up and play actual RELASED games and see how dumb you sound. Blaming the player when the game is undeniably at fault is one of the worst kinds of things you can do