Star Ocean The Divine Force Item Creation Guide Everything There Is To Know (And How To BREAK It)

[@Denamic]

Me: **exits Welch's house** Welch: "I NEED YOUR HELP COME ASAP" Me: **turns around and goes back into her house** Welch: "WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG?! I SAID ASAP!! GET ME THIS CRAP!" Me: **already have the stuff so I immediately turn it in without even moving a step** Welch: **already talking to herself about us being late**

[@darcress8641]

she is probably fucking with other main characters in other games. I swear she is probably comparable to The Doctor

[@Dsrgreyy]

lol I thought the same thing

[@calvinwilson3617]

One of the easiest ways to abuse IC with minimal effort: towns will eventually sell an accessory with increased drop rates, you can just buy a few of these and spam them together, this will let you get tons of items easy and any extras will be autosold giving you extra fol

[@ダニエル-x5d]

It's not true that if you use SP to level up your IC skills, that you can't max out everything else. Once your IC skills are maxed, you can get extra SP just through Item Creation, enough to max out your character.

[@DavidHernandez-rz7qo]

Yeah i was gonna say the same. You can max out even if you spend SP on talents.

[@BrosBGaming]

@@DavidHernandez-rz7qo thankyou. I was seriously concerned about this. So once I max the skill it tefinds the sp? This question is not answered easily apparently.

[@qjustblessed1]

Same I had read no so after reading this I am relieved. If you find out differently mind posting a update?

[@kevingutierrez771]

One possible thing that is missing in the video about item creation is the support items. Can’t even find where they can be found in game especially the 5* support item for Smithery, Engineering, Compounding and Crafting

[@kevingutierrez771]

Still don't know where the Pliers of Revelation are, but these are where the others can be obtained: Alchemist's Mortar (Hybrid Research Vessel Terranus) Hammer of Creation (Sidequest, Defense Systems Down, Parrapoeiam) Laser Scope (Provenience Cavern. Floor 3 treasure) Lezard Flask (Nihlbeth Ancient Coil, First door downstairs) Visionary Pen (Santa, The Gauntlet) (Postgame, needs Gabriel Celeste's Feathers as quest item)

[@themarchhare154]

@@kevingutierrez771 they're in the Aurelius plains between the capital and Baldaar on a floating island. Just found them the other day. It's on the right side facing the capital with Baldaar behind you.

[@themarchhare154]

@@kevingutierrez771 and the Wordsmiths Pen is in the jungle area before the Nilhbeth Ancient Coil up on a mound I believe around the Lavaman... but I found it before I even met Malkya

[@themarchhare154]

@@kevingutierrez771 and now rereading some items I believe these must be lower level support items... maybe Midas crafts it I think he has a talent that may support that idea...

[@Madxmanix]

Yeah but why don’t I have the option to use the support items in item creation? Am really limited to what I can use??

[@md_dorion]

I mentioned this on your other video but must’ve been missed. Kavacha Plate can be made by Albaird extremely early and very frequently. Malkya can only make Aegis Guard when she has the Maker’s Pride talent. The best craftable cloth armor is crafted by Nina using Runic Cloth. It is called Aidos’s Gown.

[@Primalliquid92]

aidos's gown is not the best, your losing 1000+ defense and 1600 int just to gain 2500 guts, a very poor trade off. Higher numbers in 1 stat does not mean better. as for malkya she does not need hammer of creation, support items do not give you the ability to craft new items, it just increases the RNG chance of creating rare items, its like taking a 1% chance to create it and making it 5% ect.

[@md_dorion]

@@Primalliquid92 Not sure what you imply is better than Aidos’s Gown for Nina. Please elaborate because I cannot find anything better.

[@jamesstephenson9107]

Couple of notes, Alby is not the only one who can craft Philosophers Stones and even if you use your SP to upgrade your I.C Skills, you can still max out everything as you can craft SP Seeds.

[@notyozuka7348]

How do you craft SP Seeds?

[@jamesstephenson1983]

@@notyozuka7348 game meat + secret spice - I used Nina

[@Azg4l0R1]

Your method to transfer factors to weapons is more based on rng but overall cheaper, if you transfer them 2 at a time you have to pay the expensive weapon synthesis 2 times, while with savescaming you pay once

[@anthony6921]

Absolute god send to follow your guides! I'm on my way to platinum and I'm pretty close to the 90 percent all item creations trophy to be honest had no idea people crafted unique stuff!

[@Yusei255]

Guess I'll download this video to help me out so I don't have to constantly load up YT just to watch this every time.

[@Mato814]

Did you manually level all of your IC? What's the fastest way to level it manually? Does using a higher quality material give a higher IC experience?

[@meraclechamlotte9291]

It usually gives you a much higher chance to get Talent.

[@veghesther3204]

NEVER do that just going from lv 1 to lv 2 of ANY could use 40+ material's just for 1 LV when going from lv 1 to lv 2 won't even use like 50 SP so NEVER manually level up ANY of the 7 Item creations use SP ONLY.

[@KarimJovian]

Is there any way to see the stacked factors among all your equipments per character and per team. I’m going for a crazy EXP and FOL build but I can’t see anywhere how much percentage I have and or if they are stacking. Wish the UI was more friendly in those terms and bigger text 😅

[@chaosstorm8307]

On ps4, on the equipment page, press square, the menu doesn't say it's an option, but it is. It'll change the page over from status to show you the factors you've synthesized into your gear.

[@SnakeSolid333]

Albaird is not the only one who can make the Philosopher stone as last night I was able to make it with both Nina and Midas with ease multiple times. Same with how in another video of yours about Midas being the only one to make the best armor piece in the game, I was able to have Ray make it and Nina. So, I believe you just got really unlucky with them crafting those items.

[@jamesstephenson9107]

Exactly this, I have never once used Alby for crafting yet managed to craft a philosophers stone (think it was with Malkya or Letty)

[@nicholashale7216]

While you can do it with others it's still way easier w/ Alby. He makes them 4/5 times in my experience. Same w/ the Kav armor. I have made it w/ 5 people, but Midas has the best luck with it for sure.

[@aznguymetal]

I heard Nina can produced SP Seed the most under compounding, and level up all your Item creations levels and all the skill trees.

[@swagoneto7922]

You can with secret spice and game meat...Scaring people from using SP for leveling Item creation is very strange. You will have more than enough.

[@Mystra]

Atelier: The Divine Secret & Forces lol kidding Edit: Thanks for these, will be useful when I get the game soon

[@Wolfpaxrunning]

Since IC often gives sp you absolutely can max everything, you just don't craft enough.

[@kanetidus]

thanks for that tip early on, I just have unlocked ITEM CREATION and yeah, I'm gonna need "some" money in the beginning. I don't always do a Revival Elixir, sometimes I have done some crap items. Should I invest some SP in Compounding?

[@EdgeKisaragi]

Me buying this game after I’ve finished the MSQ in Endwalker in XIV. Sorry you bought her best weapon from who in where? 😅

[@ronzkythecasualgamer532]

OMG I missed this quest. I thought you'll unlock item creation through the story. Now I have to go back and do this. Thanks!!

[@julaizaya7946]

I love the "And how to broke it" part XDD Thanks for your guides Primal ^^

[@Primalliquid92]

Haha 😄

[@miguelbastida2899]

Can you overshoot item crafting? For example i have a list where it says flamberge with Gold and smithery level 2. So if i level to 3 or 4 did i overshoot it?

[@misfreakontangious]

Since synthesizing with high end weapons/armor (or end game weapons, per se) is expensive AF, can we use the same trick you used with the power rings to transfer all the desired factors, without having to deal with the RNG? For example, try to get all 4x casting time -20% in a power ring and then later, just synth the weapon/armor in question with the power ring (with the stacked factors) without having to worry about the RNG happening?

[@VinnyXayavngvane]

What caught me the most was how u said "panacea" the first time. I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that n I've heard many different pronunciations XD also I was wondering if u may have a list of all or atleast enough for the item creation trophy? Is there also a talent that makes esowa pieces craft easier?

[@citymorgue04]

I'm soo stuck on ic. I've crafted just about every combination of items, and I'm 19 items away from finishing it.... is there some secret craft or something I'm missing?

[@doctorshiki20]

Do you have a spreadsheet with all the best factors to farm for and craft with?

[@aproy42]

so do items like the alchemy flask stack with the more you have them or do you just need one and you get the full benefit?

[@notyozuka7348]

Thank you so much, Primal! That was a great video! One question still lingers, though: How do you make SP Seeds? I've read somewhere that you can make them through IC by combining Game Meat and Secret Spice. Is that true?

[@Primalliquid92]

it seems to be true but ive not done it personally, i believe you need to synth with Nina aswell for them but i cant confirm it

[@nicholasschmidt4211]

Game Meat & Secret Spice is how you make so seeds. I use Nina and made 100s

[@xenosaga8436]

How does the team player talent work? Do you need to have that Item creation method leveled up to get any real benefit from it? For example if I'm smithing with Raymond do I need Laeticia to have level 10 smithing to get any benefit from her team player talent?

[@s69-5]

Midas can make Philosopher's Stones.

[@WattSCar7597]

Thank you for this guide! Btw, do you have any idea if the loading screen tips are viewable again? There's a tip about viewing an enemy element weakness in battle or something 😅

[@Primalliquid92]

No idea

[@cetrinea]

As far as I'm aware, Elena has the ability to scan enemy weaknesses.

[@WattSCar7597]

@@cetrinea found it! thanks! didn't know Elena's VA let's her know all the enemy's info and show it in stop mode as well.

[@cetrinea]

@@WattSCar7597 Yeah, no problem! And if you use her passive skill S & A you can even steal enemy buffs too. Pretty damn useful for Gabriel Celeste

[@madirose5019]

IC in this game is really weird. The fact there still isn’t a break down of what recipes for all items/characters to make them with blows my mind.

[@Primalliquid92]

i did start working on one, but honestly i had to stop due to the time investment, i think really theres only 2 ways theres ever gonna be a list, ether when somebody data mines the game or when somebody cheats with unlimited fol/items

[@Azg4l0R1]

You unlock alchemy when you reach the royal capital at lvl 40 or so

[@manbearpigsereal]

is the Modded Freikugel the best gun you've gotten for Marielle? I got the Atsoolaghal K'aa with 6778 Atk/Int and no penalties

[@Primalliquid92]

atsoolag is the best for marielle

[@27albrecht]

I can't seem to get Albaird to make anything higher than moonstones with alchemy. I've been trying for a while now, maybe just having bad luck? I just got to the castle city and immediately started using alchemy once it unlocked.

[@Primalliquid92]

just bad luck, without the support items to boost it the chances for upgrades are low

[@27albrecht]

@@Primalliquid92 I tried again today and it worked! Thank you!

[@StephenHandoko]

@@Primalliquid92 where did you get your support item for each IC ?

[@reyntime1950]

I can't find any info on the 'seeker of truth' skill that increases the amount of SP earned from IC. Been trying figure out which party members can learn it and which IC you learn it from.

[@Mato814]

Who would you recommend as characters for authoring? Thank you again for providing a guide this early for the game!

[@Primalliquid92]

All of them because of character exclusive books

[@isabellep3444]

Thanks so much for the guide ! Is there a cap to stacking multiples of the same factor ? I wanted to make a crazy guts build and stack a bunch of +DMG when HP is under 25% onto two accessories :D

[@Primalliquid92]

some factors have caps, some do not were still looking into them all

[@ShadowGamer-eh5fc]

Im at the end of the the game and havnt ulocked item crafting 😢

[@RenciaFennaas]

Is there a way to check the % of created items anywhere on ps4? The game data is useless cuz its not showing u anything... Also people argue if items made with "try again" counts towards thropy? I asume last item u made goes to ur inventory so they count?

[@Primalliquid92]

i think there was an option to view total items created but i cant remember where sorry

[@dndhydrate]

Where to you find or how do you make the special support items for IC? Like the Smithy Hammer and whatnot

[@Primalliquid92]

treasure chests, quest rewards, can craft the low level ones, green icons on maps ect

[@jontodd7096]

Who is the best character for obtaining the resurrection elixir recipe?

[@boeserKadser]

So 250 levels are not enough to max out every skill including crafting skills?

[@Draconalanon]

I’ve watched the creation vids you have and there is some good info, but you don’t mention the crafting boost items. There are two pairs of pliers that boost crafting.

[@Primalliquid92]

because they arnt required, they just increase the chances of better synthesis

[@deewheels9871]

ok so i suck at item creation in this game. cant lvl nothin without using SP. any advice?

[@Silveriot1988]

what is the number of times you have to do the item creation for you to max it without using SP? is it 999 times?

[@kevingraham4736]

is there a item that increases alchemy success rate? never did get a quest for it. nor find a item

[@Primalliquid92]

Yea it's a chest iirc

[@meraclechamlotte9291]

Treasure chest from that Unyielding Door in Ancient Coil. Lezard's Flask.

[@jknightwolf4574]

how do you get the item creation support items and do they do anything, i noticed a had a few like the smithy hammer and magic flask,some level 3 some 5, dont know how i got them though

[@Primalliquid92]

Quests, treasure chests, random green dot items and can craft some

[@jknightwolf4574]

@@Primalliquid92 just that i was stuck for ages upgrading moonstones to meteorite even though albaird was level 10 with wild inststinct,then all of a sudden i could make them easily,just wondering now that i got alchemists mortar level 5 at some point, thats what triggered it

[@bsmit208]

Are factor caps based on the material used, or does it just alter the probability of higher tier factor percentages?

[@Primalliquid92]

pure rng, you're just more likely to get higher tier factors with higher tier items made

[@Azg4l0R1]

So can we get a guide on talents? who can get what i found on reddit, but how do i get any of them? as in what do i have to spam to get a specific talent.

[@Primalliquid92]

just mass craft in each catagory pretty much

[@cogekacc]

how do you get more material spots

[@ryanphan4181]

Hey what accessories or weapon has +17% attack factor?

[@md_dorion]

Daril Es’owa playing piece. You’ll have to factor out the ATK+5% off of it. My advice is to factor shuffle on low-grade all 4 ATK+17% and then factor all 4 onto the weapon of choice.

[@YuehAndFriends]

Welp to late for me i use some sp on IC 😅

[@Kitsunekagee]

You're still fine, you can craft SP seeds 😉

[@Fayfh23]

how do you gain sp from crafting ? Most of the time it gave me 0sp and it only give me like 4sp then 3sp when I failed. I tried on higher material but still 0 sp most of the time, it's so tedious I might miss something there.

[@Primalliquid92]

rng chance

[@Fayfh23]

@@Primalliquid92 ok thanks, so it's not that easy as you said in the video, sadly. My experience is that it's very tedious and very time consuming as you earn sp only from failure so it's even worst as you level up no matter how much fols you have...

[@Lucifel05]

@@Fayfh23 You need 1440 SP to max a category from level 1 to 10. Just use the SP of your characters to max them. If you want to Up them only from crafting it's far too long and boring.

[@stevediament1448]

I think it would be a good idea to do time stamps for your guide videos

[@Primalliquid92]

The problem un this sort of video is all the back and forth and how each stage of IC goes into each other. This guide is designed to be consumed as a whole instead of in chunks

[@randiannahdi]

@@Primalliquid92 the problem is not everyone watching 30 minute long explanatory video.

[@unrulybozz4137]

I need help crafting fol gear. what the best way to make that type of gear and stats.

[@Primalliquid92]

Check my 2 billion fol video it contains everything you need

[@bcollins1795]

Leveling item creation it seems you only get sp to lvl it if you fail which doesnt really make sense

[@Primalliquid92]

its random, your just more likely to get it on fails

[@chenhongng]

Does IC level up the skills? My Char IC authoring 100x after L5 and still cannot hit 6

[@md_dorion]

You can level them up like any other skill. There’s a separate section called “I.C. Skills”.

[@chenhongng]

any other ways to level up ic skills than spending sp points?

[@Primalliquid92]

yea by spamming crafts

[@xbdaddyx]

Does anyone have a problem where you have 20 of an item, but you can only equip it once? I have 20 tri-emblems, but if I try to equip 1 to another character it straight up removes it from the previous character

[@Primalliquid92]

weird, not ran into that issue myself

[@xbdaddyx]

Aye primal, big fan! Maybe I’m just dumb. On my screen it says 20/20 inventory, and when I craft more of them, it automatically sells them off because I’m full. Come to think of it, it’s like that for every equippable item I have. Example, I’ll have 20/20 power rings, I’ll equip it. When I go to another character it will have the E next to it, and when I try to select it to equip to someone else, it just removes it entirely. Like the stack of inventory is just one equippable item.

[@Primalliquid92]

oh the ones with E next to it are equiped on other characters, so it just removes it from the equped character and gives it to the new one, your inv wont go down when you equip anything

[@xbdaddyx]

@@Primalliquid92 I think I understand. So, hypothetically, inventory with the same name and factors would pool into the same inventory number. Example 3 Tri-emblems 4 (all with the same factors). If that's the case, its hypothetically impossible to give each character the exact same accessory build? Since they have the same name and factors and are all pooled under the same inventory slot, when I equip it to one character the whole stack will show as E (equipped) and make it to where if I try to equip it to someone else it will just remove it from the previous character and equip it to the new character? On an unrelated note, your fans want to see a Star Ocean Second Story gameplay my dude, lets make it happen

[@EpicJoker295]

is there a list of everyone's best weapons and armor?

[@jamescatalao2607]

How do you make capacitors?

[@Primalliquid92]

buy them, dont make them

[@jamescatalao2607]

@@Primalliquid92 Thank you.

[@Daemon5258]

Is Authorizing used for anything good?

[@Xoutcojjx]

Just personal books each character can make i believe they all have 3 books each, then you can sell them to a shop in the royal capital, and overtime they pay you royalties whenever you go back and talk to the NPC

[@03shinaster]

His guides are just based on what he learned, it's not perfect. For example as for damage build, I'm far above him.

[@Primalliquid92]

? i havnt even shown off my complete build so it wouldnt surprise me if plenty of people are hitting higher numbers, majority of the gear on all my characters during these videos is testing gear thats why the only person with an endgame weapon equiped is raymond so its not costing me 6 million fol a time when i change factors

[@03shinaster]

@@Primalliquid92 I'm sure you will figure it out but, I can hit for 2mm with no surprise attack buffs or anything special with Quick ripper, white swing spam 2mm+ all day on everything.

[@vladch2016]

So stupid that this game force you to search for dam side quest in order to unlock crafting -_-

[@twilight1415]

Kinda waste getting all end gear armor if theres no game plus :(

[@Primalliquid92]

sadly i agree, the only real benefit is if you wanna do 6 wing EQ on chaos

[@ragnorak5095]

Did he say you cannot use a SINGLE SP on item creation otherwise can't max skill tree and passive etc? So did I just bricked the game on every single character cuz I already uses some SP on I.C? Wtf???

[@sabbe_satta_bhavantu_sukhi7226]

I used Nina, but it may work with any character at level 10 for compounding. Materials Game meat Secret spice And you can get SP Seed which bestows 50SP

[@Primalliquid92]

maxing all passives and attack skills is rather pointless anyway since 70% of them are terrible and a waste of resources, so you dont lose much by not getting them to level 10