Star Trek Discovery Seasons 1 and 2. Stream Me Up.

[@mepm]

Robert April was the original captain of the Enterprise, not Pike.

[@Yxalitis]

NURD ALERT! woop woop

[@laurapeter3857]

TAS viewer in the house!

[@conformistmusic3336]

It's not real mate

[@mepm]

@@conformistmusic3336 Thanks for clarifying that Sherlock.

[@conformistmusic3336]

@@mepm Unhappy in life?

[@shawnvines2514]

Thank you for saving me from 50+ hours of STDs

[@nunyabizness6595]

I see what you did there.

[@ShamrockParticle]

Discovery was not my favorite series (feels too contemporary with slang and profanity) but your review of it is probably the most level and even of the bunch. Thanks!

[@sharpaycutie2]

Agreed. Doesn't even feel like star trek. Not even them mentioning their starfkeet makes me -believe they're starfleet 😂😂 That expensive budget could have been better spent on Previous star trek shows😭😭😭😭

[@damienkakoschke3099]

We knew when Michelle Yeoh & Doug Jones were in the cast that they were serious about doing it right. :)

[@greyblooz]

I gave up on this show just before the finale of season 1. Thanks for validating that decision!

[@Ma55ey]

Really enjoyed this review... the tone was nice and even.. Glad you didn't skip over any of the issues they show has or just blame the fans for not liking it... or just full out saying that Discovery was no different to any other star trek show... like most channels defending New trek do.. Never seen your channel before but I'm going to enjoy looking through your content..

[@Redrogue4711]

Loving your editing style. Several times I was just glad I didn't have any Mountain Dew around. Cleaning soda off a screen sucks.

[@caloss2]

Have to say, the best thing to come out of disco, is Strange New Worlds, looking forward to a Stam Fine take on that show.

[@michaelcarbone6101]

Hey, yeah, Clint Howard, the little alien from the original series. A delight to see ‼

[@mb2000]

I haven’t watched any NuTrek since two seasons of Discovery ruined my enjoyment of the franchise. Thankfully I am still go back to the older ones though. Maybe they could try having less producers and more writers who know what they’re doing?

[@nunyabizness6595]

Sorry. You are asking too much.

[@hrdley911]

Me too. So much broken canon...

[@kesamek8537]

They know exactly what they're doing, that's the problem.

[@patrickmartin7692]

"Or some trivial shit like a war.". That was hilarious

[@daverage4729]

Good review. Have to admit though, still think its a dreadful show with a majority of tedious characters and little in the way of respect to fans. Tried to give it a go but was dragging myself through the last few episodes of season 1. If I had to sum it up in one word, it would have to be 'soulless'.

[@SaviorCross]

Calling it soulless is an insult to true soulless tv shows....I agree, it was a drag trying to watch this show..

[@nunyabizness6595]

Nutrek makes Lost in Space and Six Million Dollar Man look like great SF. Scary.

[@Yxalitis]

I supported Disco when it launched, didn't mind the new Klingons, but as they leaned more and more into Burnham, it simply became: "The Michael Burnham Show" Season 2 had Pyke, so that diverted attention away from Burnham Then we had season 3. *cue Mountain Dew spit video

[@DrTarrandProfessorFether]

Season 3 of Disco was by far the best season. Fresh, way out side of current Star Trek Cannon. Was quite good… few Llooonnngggg speeches from the heart with tears. Did not like the end of season 3. Still “Does not compute. 22:23 Then season 4…. Uggg… back to Long speeches… even while out of now where, huge rocks destroying earth killing millions a second, a Truly heart Felt 5 minute speech, walking to the shuttle bay (no teleport to the deck?) while hundreds of millions of Earthers are pancaked. And loads of Rocks on Disco… every time a bridge console goes boom. Final season 5 coming up.

[@rhodrage]

Saru is probably the best character from this. I don't enjoy Discovery, but Saru is great.

[@ScottIngram]

Well, thank you for introducing me to this. I'll be honest and admit that I haven't been following ANY of the recent Trek.

[@StamFine]

Cool. Discovery is just the beginning of a new type of Star Trek. Polarising and needing to find a consistent groove. Right now it's like a Jazz Fusion group with everyone playing a different tempo. The individual musicians are wonderful, though.

[@ScottIngram]

@@StamFine I'll give it a shot if only for Rainn Wilson.

[@wildone106]

Woke bullshit

[@ShamrockParticle]

@@ScottIngram the Mudd clips on KZbin revived my interest. The show is a mess but not without some great moments.

[@nunyabizness6595]

Stam, when is your reveiw of season 3 and 4 coming? Or is there not enough mountain dew in the world?

[@angbald]

Just started the show. Up to episode 5 and I absolutely love it. I watched this review and it looked good to me. So far it's hands down my favorite Trek anything.

[@jimjam51075]

I watched the pilot for this and the pilot for Picard and permanently tuned out on both. I never even bothered with Strange New Worlds.

[@TheInfinitySystem]

You should. Seriously.

[@susanscott8653]

Agreed - you really should. I think you would like it.

[@jacobia7093]

Highly, highly recommend Picard season 3. It does reference some things from seasons 1 and 2, but I think you’ll do just fine with 3 👍

[@DrTarrandProfessorFether]

Strange New Worlds is great… very much like Star Trek TOS.

[@DrTarrandProfessorFether]

Yes, Picard Season 3 is really “Star Trek Next Generation Season VIII (or IIX)… The voyage ( to a Retirement )Home .

[@dogspunk]

I do enjoy this show but damn if it doesn’t constantly stop tense, time sensitive scenes to talk about unresolved character issues that should be met with “later, ensign!”

[@susanscott8653]

This is where I think the spore drive was a mistake. If they can get anywhere instantly, there is no time for those conversations and no tension because they are racing to get somewhere in time. Just my two cents.

[@Shakes_The_Clone]

I’ve really enjoyed your Trek series. Hope you do DS9! I’m a Niner, and would love to see you cover it.

[@StamFine]

DS9 will happen.

[@SaviorCross]

I couldn't get into the show, Michael is all about emotion, emotion, emotion, just toss out that she grew up a Vulcan, didn't seem to know where it wants to go with the plots, and then identity politics reared its head and that was it for me...

[@erraticuk]

Are the cameras tied to balloons?

[@kaitlyn__L]

I'd love to see you do seasons 3&4 (or I guess 3-5 in a few months), after this level-headed and balanced take. THANK YOU for the Reno love by the way. (She's a huge part of why I'd love to see your reviews of the newest seasons.) Totally agree about Georgiou, I wish we'd just kept the first one. Hell, she could've headed her own show as a totally regular Starfleet captain. Also!! Given the wonderful Clem Fandango (can you hear me?) point-out, PLEASE do Toast of London. Oh my god. I have seen hardly any discussion of that great show. And, especially after Thunderbirds and Avengers, I know you'll treat it properly and understand.

[@harrypothead42024]

The fish is all anyone remembers about that trip.

[@botz77]

If I was Bryan Fuller I would have taken my name off of it. He's so much better than this trash show.

[@1monki]

I suspect he doesn't want to burn any more bridges than he has. He still needs to be a professional in that industry, and he doesn't want to be seen as "hard to work with" or as someone who'll tank projects. Someday, hopefully, he'll be able to talk about what happened

[@robgoffroad]

It took a while before I watched Discovery, but all in all I liked it. Season 3 was... okay. First half was good, second half not so much. Season 4 isn't looking good based on the previous. BTW I posted on your Voyager video that I thought Lower Decks was the worst of the Star Trek shows; I was wrong... I had forgotten about Picard. Picard was truly AWFUL. HOWEVER... Picard Season 2 is looking very interesting. BTW I'm still eagerly awaiting Season 3 of The Orville. Sigh.

[@snowysnowyriver]

This abomination should never have the Star Trek name attached to it. It takes everything Gene Roddenberry stood for and tramples on it.

[@davidsmith5523]

Looking forward to Strange New Worlds.

[@SmartVideosJarkaWatched]

Is that starting in June?

[@marcboss6]

Many it's sad that I can only recall like 4 characters on this show

[@ivanelgharbi5861]

I remember when i saw the first ep of season two and inmediatly said "the red angel is Michael, because of course its her". But I really really love Saru. Its not a bad show, but it the lesser of the treks for me, and i like Piccard.

[@nutherefurlong]

I have to ask, do you decide to record a show's quips ahead of time or do you take notes on whatever catches your attention for possible use during the review? You really find the perfect ones a lot of the time :)

[@StamFine]

mainly just winging it

[@bioshock6935]

I liked the new Harry mud hope we get him back in strange new worlds spock and no1 and the great captain pike was the only best thing about discovery for me

[@BrettJones27]

Fair review, I'd say. As an occasional Star Trek watcher, and not a FAN, I should have been more into this series I feel. But it left me cold. Disliked most characters, especially Michael, and her always having the answer to everything. The messing with the past and canon (although something I was only vaguely familiar with), the sister/brother thing with Spock, Spock's character, etc, annoyed me and I quit the show with the reveal of the bloody red angle's identity... It was all so... pessimistic about the future, unlike the earlier Trek's

[@SmartVideosJarkaWatched]

Is this set in The Kelvin Universe or in The 'Original' Universe (or have they sorta blended into a MARVEL-style multiverse)?

[@kawaiwong408]

Laughed out loud at the trillion dollar comment at the end. 😂

[@mzungusi]

Thanks , I tried to watch this show , but I just couldn't. I've been wondering if it was just me that found it profoundly irritating. There are so many good parts, but the way it's put together ....aaaagh!

[@DrTarrandProfessorFether]

Do Picardy Season III (or IIV). Yes, Picard Season 3 is really “Star Trek Next Generation Season VIII (or IIX)… The voyage ( to a Retirement )Home .

[@markcalcagno676]

Yup, these are all my feelings as well

[@TheHopperUK]

It was evil Georgiou that killed it for me.

[@thethornbro5167]

3 episodes on TOS, a video on practically every Star Trek movie, a video for, ew, discovery, a video for voyager and enterprise, but no video for the best, deep space 9? For shame

[@Ryglado]

Give the man some time. I’m sure he’ll get to it.

[@iancran]

Really enjoyed season 1, but thought the next two seasons were really messy and unengaging. Wish they’d try ditching the story season-long story arks. Maybe the new Strange New Worlds series will be better.

[@StamFine]

It's kinda weired that the best of the new Trek shows is the animated series, Lower Decks. Which feels fresh and modern and yet someone working on it remembered what Star Trek is.

[@susanscott8653]

SNW returns to an episodic format with some continuity running through it. I wonder if Disco writers should tru mini-arcs like Enterprise's season 4. Those arcs were interesting IMO and rewatchable.

[@iancran]

@@susanscott8653 Maybe so. I LOVED Strange New Worlds.

[@maxpayne930]

I only watched season 1 cos Lorka didn,t care obu Burnum space Jesus trope : )

[@camstersonofmerrill6687]

Are you planning on covering Strange New Worlds? I hope you don't hate it as much as Disco.

[@StamFine]

I don't hate Disco, just don't love it. SNW and Lower Decks have been great.

[@MattMcIrvin]

Having only seen the first 3 seasons of Discovery, I saw it as a flawed but interesting experiment--certainly a lot better than Picard, which was the one I expected to like but was actually kind of a mess. The prevailing darkness of Discovery could be a bit much sometimes, though I understand it's what people expect from prestige TV these days. The serialization often had the effect of just slowing the plot down. And some of the show's big dramatic plot twists were frankly ridiculous--this is a tradition going back to the beginning of Trek, but in a more episodic show you can shrug it off and move on; here, it ends up souring the taste of a season-long epic storyline. I have not yet watched Strange New Worlds since we let our Paramount+ (then "CBS All Access") subscription lapse, but since the characters that show revolves around were some of the best things about Discovery, I'm not surprised at the raves it's getting.

[@StamFine]

Strange New Worlds has the best first season of a Trek show since the original. Lower Decks is also pretty good. Highly recommended.

[@GeraldDrake-p4r]

So glad it over, Thank GOD!

[@taker68]

Got some good stuff in it but so frustrating. SPOILERS!!!:: S1 ends with the Klingons (without leadership) about to destroy Earth but stopped because their new Empress can blow up their home world with the push of a button?????? Just dumb. Kleppians can all fly spaceships 10 minutes after being freed. Spock goes through so much, you'd think the one in the original show should be totally together and have no issues.

[@rodd1000]

Far to complimentary for what is utter garbage, from S1E1 to the very last episode. It’s painful. I’m a Trek fan, but was gutted when I heard they’d renewed for S4. I totally abandoned it somewhere mid S2. Poor script and poor characters and even worse plots. The quicker this is cancelled the sooner we can start looking forward to something more deserving of the ST name.

[@baggyobeast]

Agreed and feel like I'm living in the twilight zone when people can't see this show is hot hot kaka. How can they pass this off as good or even ok

[@mrrolandlawrence]

it had some good moments. star trek always has been a bit campy and naff in places though. this series is no different. Michelle Yeoh is my favourite character there. the others are a bit wet behiend the ears.

[@adrianvanleeuwen]

Personally I felt Discovery was moderately good overall at times a 6.5/10 or 7/10, and suffers from some things! Bad looking Klingons and the story telling doesn't feel like the usual positive style Star Trek of old. Most of the bridge crew have no personality nor names I remember (and are window dressing), except the main captain and second in command and Tilley or guest stars that show up like Book. Saru is a great actor though. Michael Burnham is too often considered right and saves the day miraculously, and some fans call her a Mary Sue character (my opinion is mixed). Season 2 with Pike and Spock appearing was great because of them alone. Fans wanted a spin off and got it with SNW. Season 3 is mixed reviews again with some good episodes, Book is great, however I really did not care for the weird alien 10C, but I did like the "math/sound communication" original idea. Story of 10C dragged on too much. Mixed reviews indeed. Space magic often saves the day and we see a lot of it in the 900 year ahead future.

[@pferreira1983]

This isn't Star Trek. The franchise died back in 2005. 😉

[@olindetroit7636]

That was the same thing some of you "FAKE FANBOYS" was saying back in 1987 when TNG was airing on tv. Small minds will always be trapped in a tiny box. STD is now on its 4 seasons and hopefully a 5th. Meaning...people are watching it in great numbers and big production companies realized that they have a popular show making some nice money. 4

[@pferreira1983]

@@olindetroit7636 They've lost money! Also I'm probably more of a fanboy than you are since I can realise what is actual Star Trek! 😆

[@olindetroit7636]

@@pferreira1983 🙄 🖖

[@wink1eafc774]

For me, discovery reached its peak in season 2, all down hill in season 3&4. Those two seasons are awful. Only decent Trek show at the moment is strange new worlds.

[@glyndaley5844]

Oh dear ! Let's just leave my views there .

[@TheToonMonkey]

"A trio of successful....well 2009 was decent at least".

[@LightningSt0rm]

"the show as preempted by some trivial shit, like a war" 🤣

[@toddnolastname4485]

So, how much did they pay you to promote this show? I made such a comment on the Star Trek reddit, and got censured for that. Then I asked about the unofficial TOS follow ups. I got blocked from posting, told I was not posting "in good faith". Bullshit. They aren't moderating in good faith if they can't take a bit of criticism, and won't allow talk about better shows.

[@jasonpwilson01XFORCE]

Star Trek discovery is a complete abomination and the worst Star Trek by far. Why they keep on making discovery I will never know considering how bad the writing is and how low the ratings are. It really makes you appreciate how top notch all the other Star Trek series are in comparison. Discovery is truly a star track and science-fiction fan‘s nightmare. Hopefully one day the nightmare will end.

[@Bonzulac]

I think I truly started to despise the show when I realized two or three episodes in that Tilly was supposed to be the comedy relief. It hadn't occurred to me until then because she was so not funny I didn't even realize she was supposed to be.

[@mikestanmore2614]

I watched the first episode of STD, by halfway through I can say I forced myself to watch it. It might have made a standalone science fiction show, but it didn't remind me of Star Trek.

[@nunyabizness6595]

No one knows how to write video SF except The Orville and The Expanse.

[@nigeh5326]

Discovery could be great but the writing is bloody awful imo

[@TheRadioAteMyTV]

I suffered through S1 and S2 and that was enough. Woke speed 10 replacing warp speed 10 meant straight to the memory hole as fast as possible. There are no redeeming qualities of the show. Thank God for The Oriville, which in S1 and S2 was must watch, and always enjoy, TV. S3 on Hulu where they went way past hour episodes hurt The Oriville, but it was still light years better than any modern Trek.

[@ajctrading]

About the same quality level of Star Wars movies post Return of the Jedi. A big steaming pile of crap.

[@Brando64]

Ah, Stam Fine, what did you think of Season 3 of Discovery? I have watched all three seasons, and I think they get progressively nonsensical and way too maudlin.

[@StamFine]

slight improvement for the first half then went back to bad habits later on. Manages to do even less with the majority of the cast than first two seasons. Lower Decks Season 1 is where its really happening out of the three Trek seasons from 2020.

[@nunyabizness6595]

I've heard that Lower Decks is pretty much shit all over the males and women know everything. So identity politics like everything else these days. So pass.

[@cloverfield911]

Star Trek died years ago. I will stick with the earlier series.

[@titusmccarthy]

Enterprise was SHIT.

[@BTScriviner]

Watched the first episode when it was free and didn't care for it so I never wanted to subscribe to CBS's streaming service. The more I read about it, the less I wanted to see it. I don’t have the same hatred that most fanboys do, but the series just holds no interest for me.

[@gregorde]

My condolences for suffering though this shit.

[@chrisgregory3805]

Why why why is she called Michael???

[@angbald]

Why why why do you have two first names and long hair

[@msthalamus2172]

I loved the first season, but after that... meh?

[@jefferyyoung2580]

Star trek discovery is bad and about captain Branham

[@stephenevans6070]

🤣

[@buddrud]

Decent review. Glad you sort of liked the show. I didn't. I hate Tilly the most. A grating character. Like getting an aggressive massage with sand paper. It gets that itchy spot, but then you require skin grafts.

[@jefferyyoung2580]

Star trek discovery is ok

[@RichardM-kv4uu]

Not only the worst Star Trek, but the worst TV show ever made.

[@saalkz.a.9715]

Erm... Batwoman(!?)

[@RichardM-kv4uu]

@@saalkz.a.9715 That's also the worst show ever made! :D

[@battlefield_hackers_exposed]

She started a goddamn war, but thats ok somehow. I stopped watching after the first two episodes of season 4, because the plotholes and outright silly ideas and dialogue was way too much to bare..

[@angbald]

Bear

[@davidsmith5523]

What an amazingly respectful series this was. Experimented but refocused when fans couldn't cope. Changed time set to calm the upset. Brought back Pike to please traditionslists. Then made it more of an ensemble piece due to the bleating about the central character. What a shame that "fans" are so shockingly narrow minded these days.

[@StarTrekDoor]

I gave Discovery a go. Gave up after a couple episodes. The sets are poorly lit and the characters act like teenagers of the obnoxious sort. The bad language was such a turn off for me 🖖🙂

[@ShoutOfCoffee]

Star Trek Wokeovery? Yeah...It's horrible.

[@tentringer4065]

It started off woke. A future without racial divisions, without greed and with the world's governments working together for a common goal. It seems you weren't paying attention all along.

[@ShoutOfCoffee]

@@tentringer4065 yes.but we're talking about times when whe just tried to improve ourselves as a humans. Now it's just ridiculous. I'm generation X. I saw myself how all this BS evolved through the years. It's scary. Where we're going? We spouse to be smarter, wiser. We're not.

[@MattMcIrvin]

@@tentringer4065 Progressive messages that already existed when I was a child are fine, but progressive messages that are new to me as an adult are "woke" and "forced"!

[@nunyabizness6595]

So no season 3 and 4 breakdown. Thought so. Even Stam couldn't take it anymore. Imagine how the fans feel.😂😂😂

[@carlevans8825]

This is a 3 year old review bud

[@johnmacneill8066]

Axanar

[@nunyabizness6595]

Fire Kurtzman and hire Peters. Simple as that.

[@peterrasmussen6720]

Woke Trek: To bodly woke where noone has woked before, and hopefully noone will ever woke again.

[@Silver-rx1mh]

You do remember what original trek was like son? lol

[@josephnash2081]

ST Disco is unwatchable. I disliked the show after the first few episodes of season 1.

[@marcbrasse747]

I thinks it stinks!

[@stephenevans6070]

This was so shit, designed for god knows who, a lot of crying, but at least Clem Fandango is in it, it should have concentrated on a plot and entertaining people instead of race, sexual preference and gender politics and pushing unbelievable Mary Sue characters, like the 5ft 2 inch nurse that is able to take down Klingons with the moves she learnt at medical school?

[@knurled1]

Too woke for me. 🤔😕

[@titusmccarthy]

What does that mean? Star Trek was always "WOKE"

[@knurled1]

@@titusmccarthy Original 'woke' in Star Trek had meaning, it dealt with real issues. Today's woke is something entirely different.

[@nvonliph]

the show is wrecked by the contractual 25%diffenences, and its new woke bullshit. I gave up after giving it a go for the first season.

[@hoRsinator]

Discovery was by far the worst star trek

[@BJ-bi9xv]

6:44 you put in Clem Fandango! oh SH#T😂😂😂! "Yes I can hear you, Clem Fandango!" too damn funny!!!

[@chartranddave]

This series was absolute crap....the mushroom engine...the retooled and awful Klingons...complete garbage