The expression on Spock Prime's face when AOS Spock asks about Khan. Disgust, dismay, regret, and sadness. You can see in his face how the name "Khan" brings back so many painful memories. But I love Spock Prime's character development. He goes from "not being able to lie" to knowing when it's time to break a vow. He can't let his younger self and friends go thru the same pain that he and the TOS crew went thru. It's like, "screw the vows, I have a moral obligation to prevent the years of suffering I would later endure at the hands of this man." Brilliant.
@lianalyods25294 жыл бұрын
Isn't that selfish? Unlike Spock?
@Tellos4 жыл бұрын
@@lianalyods2529 I think it was more he could not stand to imagine them going through it all again to suffer as so many did just to keep a timeline intact even for him. It was the one foe i suspect he'd do this for the one enemy he'd change it if he could.
@victorpradha99464 жыл бұрын
Towards thee I roll, thou all-destroying but unconquering whale; ***to the last I grapple with thee; from hell’s heart I stab at thee; for hate’s sake I spit my last breath at thee.*** Sink all coffins and all hearses to one common pool! and since neither can be mine, let me then tow to pieces... ***Khan's last words before he set off Genesis Spock [prime] knew exactly how great a danger Khan posed to all of Star Fleet. Heck he blew up the records archives killing nearly 4 dozen innocent people just to get a shot at killing some of Star Fleet's senior officers.
@GreyDoofus888 күн бұрын
@@Tellos In this instance... the needs of the many definitely outweigh the needs of the few and of the one.
@tommyyanuar20374 жыл бұрын
When Spock Prime mentioned Khan's full name, young Spock quickly realized this is more than just an enhanced supersoldier involved in a deep conspiracy. This is someone whose existence in Spock Prime's life had a huge impact. He knew this encounter will also make more impact on him than he would expect.
@ExcentricDragon3 жыл бұрын
@The Program Not necessarily. Even Spock Prime had to do some initial research on Khan in The Space Seed from TOS after they picked up the Botany Bay and defrosted him.
@channingbloom7125 Жыл бұрын
300
@seanhk93594 жыл бұрын
Old Spock’s delivery of “that being said...” was intense and perfect. He know he can’t break his earlier vow, but, he’s gotta tell young Spock SOMETHING considering how dangerous Khan is
@Solider74 жыл бұрын
Nothing Elder Spock said was anything that would change the past. The Enterprise already knew how dangerous Khan was from his actions earlier in the movie. The only additional detail mentioned by Elder Spock was that defeating Khan would come at great cost.
@spencergsmith3 жыл бұрын
@@Solider7 and that he wouldn’t hesitate to kill each and every single one of them. I think that sealed the decision of Spock to hedge his bets with the torpedoes.
@mikehance60862 жыл бұрын
Abrhams said he making another one with chris and zach reprising there roles would be cool to see kirk travel back in time and meet kirk and have shatner team up with chris to save the universe
@kiosk5595 Жыл бұрын
It’s also a great red herring for devoted Star Trek fans. They think the Elder Spock is warning his younger self that *he* will temporarily die
@ChuckNorrisIsNothing Жыл бұрын
I like to think that Spock had a little bit of a grudge.
@moneyspider15 жыл бұрын
That expression on Prime Spock's face when he heard the name "Khan."
@rotyler21774 жыл бұрын
That's why I love Super soldiers no matter WHICH universe they are from. P.S. Love this movie just bought it second hand from library!
@pkzammy6663 жыл бұрын
You can see the pain in his expression.
@williamb.j.blaskowicz.56643 жыл бұрын
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@angusng8166 жыл бұрын
The last appearance of Leonard Nimoy. I am glad Zachery Quinto made a good Spock.
@dancastro47325 жыл бұрын
He was fantastic
@davidv55524 жыл бұрын
Yes
@andrewmontgomery56214 жыл бұрын
A true passing of the torch.
@superfarful4 жыл бұрын
New trek spock is not spock. They wrote him to be an emotional idot who falls in love. NOT SPOCK
@anusmcgee41504 жыл бұрын
@@superfarful Oh so he's not one dimensional anymore? You're right, Spock really is supposed to be boring.
@SheldonAdama175 жыл бұрын
“Did you defeat him?” “At great cost, yes.” “How?” “Do you have a PVC pipe handy?”
@JnEricsonx5 жыл бұрын
Ok, I'm not getting that, unless you mean the beam on the Reliant to crushed him?
@SheldonAdama175 жыл бұрын
I’m referring to the TOS episode where he appeared where Kirk won by clubbing him with an engineering tool
@lyianx5 жыл бұрын
@@SheldonAdama17 Nope. But I have a torpedo designed to destroy all life in order to create a new planet.
@JasonAguirre4 жыл бұрын
Just fly over him, he's brilliant but not experianced...
@Shanethefilmmaker4 жыл бұрын
Funny you mention that, because Spock kinda took out Khan in a similar way. When Khan was advancing on Uhura, much like Kirk, he broke off a piece of Federation equipment and beat him down with it.
@Agent_1701-D5 жыл бұрын
When Spock Prime says he took a vow to not state any information so the Kelvin Timeline can unfold as it should, you understand and respect that. But when Spock Kelvin asked about Khan, you just know Spock Prime will say something. Khan is that serious of a threat and the crew had to be told, vows be damned.
@Shanethefilmmaker4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised they didn't use that as part of the "A Lie" gag they had in the series. *Spock:* A lie. *Spock Prime:* An exception.
@brianschwatka36554 жыл бұрын
The Star trek Series i want is the Eugenics Wars. I want to see something on the first guy to beat Kahn.
@t3productions5914 жыл бұрын
Not to mention Spock Prime Lowkey indirectly got killed by him.
@thomasjuniardi35594 жыл бұрын
Spock prime being there had already disrupt the timeline, he doesn't change anything....yet 😁
@luisrivera54763 жыл бұрын
@@brianschwatka3655 it would work better in a book or cómic, i don't think a TV show or movie would be very good,
@AWriterWandering4 жыл бұрын
“How” “ I died” “But... how are you here then?” “I got better.”
@styupidplayz41463 жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Morningstar
@casey5703 жыл бұрын
tsk, tsk, mixing B5 with Star Trek
@ines.IR.rieger3 жыл бұрын
@@casey570 Still a great line 😊 Though it somehow carries more weight with Sheridan.
@AzguardMike3 жыл бұрын
more like "But....how are you here?" Spock: my contract forced me back for one more film. Only a real death will stop me being in these films.
@giosy00723 жыл бұрын
@@AzguardMike Of course, there was if they shoot a final scene where the crew, after Kirk awakens, say goodbye to Spock Prime one last time. It really fit. At least to be able to reassure Spock Prime that everyone was still alive. I err?
@TheThecrusher3 жыл бұрын
"Khan Noonien Singh is the dangerous adversary the enterprise has ever faced. He is brilliant, ruthless, and will not hesitate to kill every single one of you" I saw this in a packed movie theatre. The movie house shook with applause and awes after that one line. Actually it was the best part of the movie
@poruatokin3 жыл бұрын
I would be so pissed off if I lived in a country where it is usual behavior to clap, cheer, whoop or make any other noise in a cinema when I have paid money to watch a movie.
@Zramy2 жыл бұрын
You misquoted him.
@Doomzdeh2 жыл бұрын
@@poruatokin Yeah, I’d be pretty upset too. I’d miss any of the lines that were said immediately afterwards, and the Cinema doesn’t do rewinds. I’m glad I live in an area of America where the people aren’t so obnoxious and rude.
@STH151NicoleFan Жыл бұрын
To have one of the most beloved characters (played by the same man, God rest Leonard’s soul) speak of the most popular and infamous villain in the series would no doubt get the fanbase excited.
@tdeo2141 Жыл бұрын
@@poruatokin honestly that doesn’t bother me as much as people checking their cell phone (and thus distracting me from the story), chewing gum loudly behind me, kicking my seat, even answering their darn phones. And if you ask them to turn off their phone, you get rude insults. I stopped going to the movie theatre altogether. I’m not paying for an unpleasant experience.
@chriswilson31263 жыл бұрын
Zachary Quinto's casting was fantastic. Probably the most important out of all the cast and he absolutely nails it.
@digitalfilmjat65343 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, no he doesn't nail Spock and that is primarily JJ Abram's fault. But he was a really good choice and he could have nailed it. Zachary emotes too much emotion in every scene to be Spock.
@alegsb3943 Жыл бұрын
@@digitalfilmjat6534That’s mostly because in this timeline, Spock is supposed to be more emoting, as it is a significant aspect of this Spock’s character. Things like Vulcan being lost and his mother with it made a big impact on this still learning young Spock. I’m glad he’s different as it’s not just the same character as Nemoy’s Spock and that allows him to have a different feel and be a different character.
@digitalfilmjat6534 Жыл бұрын
@@alegsb3943 No, sorry, the universe is not so black and white like that. Time is not linear. Most of the Kelvin timeline still mirrors the previous TOS timeline, which means not everyone and not every culture has been affected. The Humans were the most affected, especially Kirk. But Vulcan of the Kelvin timeline is still pretty much the same as Vulcan of the TOS timeline, until Nero destroys it. So, Kirk's childhood was deeply altered while Spock's childhood largely remains unaffected. That means that Spock is pretty much the same Spock, until he loses his mother and his home world. He's not that young of a character when Vulcan is destroyed. Yet, Zachery is playing a snarky sarcastic Spock from start to finish of the movie. Literally every reactionary response Zachery gives throughout the film is loaded with emotion. That's not on purpose. That is because JJ Abrams not grasping the genra he's working in, and being more fixated on Camera tricks than performance! I've pointed out many times that JJ Abrams has always been a technical director, and not an Actor's director. He's more fixated on flaring his shots than extracting critical performances out of his talent. Star Wars EP7 well shows this too.
@furioussherman72653 жыл бұрын
0:48 I love that choice of words. It sounds so understated given that Spock gave his own life to stop Khan, but at the same time it carries so much gravitas for that exact same reason.
@andrewkennedy98798 жыл бұрын
RIP Mr Spock
@GiancarloLazzara7 жыл бұрын
Which Spock
@johnparker76637 жыл бұрын
John Smith the old one
@dancastro47325 жыл бұрын
Ambassador Spock
@rwboa225 жыл бұрын
Spock Prime 🖖
@TileGuyJesse5 жыл бұрын
"at great cost.....yes.....my life."
@JasonAguirre4 жыл бұрын
It would have been hilarious to see the reactions if he mentioned he died. They would be like wtf...then he could say, I got better...
@StillJustDreaming4 жыл бұрын
Kirk's son too
@yislaw4 жыл бұрын
but he came back
@segalliongaming89254 жыл бұрын
I remember whispering that to my wife while we were watching that in the theater.
@giosy00723 жыл бұрын
@@StillJustDreaming Well, the new timeline changed everything, didn't it?
@LPJack022 жыл бұрын
RIP Leonard Nimoy (March 26, 1931 - February 27, 2015), aged 83 You will be remembered as a legend. Live Long and Prosper 🖖
@giosy0072 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about you, but I'm annoyed that Spock Prime's on-screen "last words" weren't shown to us. I mean, they show us the moment after the call, but not Spock Prime's actual answer. What is the sense?
@shaunbang4 жыл бұрын
I was late to the Star Trek game as these new films got me into the franchise for the first time but I truly feel like I have an understanding of how influential Leonard Nimoy was not only for this series but in the world in general. RIP Leonard you’re work will forever be a positive and amazing contribution to the science and arts and life in general.
@digitalfilmjat65343 жыл бұрын
Leonard Nimoy really helped to explore and develop the characteristics of Vulcan behavior with Gene Roddenberry, the creator. Many things you see throughout the original serious were his ideas. Zachery Quinto was a good choice for a young Spock. He could have nailed Spock perfectly if JJ Abrams was paying proper attention to details. Unfortunately, Zachery often comes off hostile, pretentious and smug. Unless under real duress, Spock rarely ever showed even a hint of emotion. He was stone cold logic, like a machine. If he insulted you or be-little you, he did it stone cold. His blood pressure never went up if you challenge his authority. He simply just had security remove you or he would Vulcan neck pinch you if you got physical. Spoke would never say, "Get him off this ship," in any hostile tone.
@patrickwhelpley17453 жыл бұрын
I love Kirks line at 2:06 “the minute we get near the bridge, drop him.” The delivery of it makes me laugh.
@PsychoRavager4 жыл бұрын
That camera switch at 0:25 between the two Spocks is just amazing.
@giosy00723 жыл бұрын
Of course, there was if they shoot a final scene where the crew, after Kirk awakens, say goodbye to Spock Prime one last time. It really fit. At least to be able to reassure Spock Prime that everyone was still alive. I err?
@aperson222225 жыл бұрын
0:33 Quinto: Are there two Khans, maybe? We didn’t catch his full name, but he doesn’t look like a Noonien Singh to me. Nimoy: Right, he was the ruler of India back in the day, but he is himself Mexican. Quinto: Not Mexican _or_ Indian. English. Nimoy: I guess it must be a different Khan, then. In my timeline, the only English people are the French.
@mustarddoctor5 жыл бұрын
There is comic explaining why he looks different actually. Apparently when he was awoken by Admiral Marcus....it wasnt just his identity they changed. He had a full physical transformation
@aperson222225 жыл бұрын
Kyle Edgecomb Eh, I like my version better. Did someone else do the same transformation surgery back in the day to make him look Mexican?
@lucasbachmann4 жыл бұрын
His parents were Castillian Spaniards that immigrated to Mexico.
@palabrajot5054 жыл бұрын
Cheer up, my lad.
@Shanethefilmmaker4 жыл бұрын
*Quinto:* Is there any nationality stuff you left out? *Nimoy:* Yes, our Iowa Born Captain is Canadian in my world.
@ygorschuma30593 жыл бұрын
I love how nobody talks about Khan's reaction time at 0:57, and the fact that even how brutal he is fighting that one crewmember, he just doesn't instantly knocks him out, he just straight up kept beating on him, sort of in a sadistic way.
@colinkerwick10212 жыл бұрын
And kirks expression was like ammmm nooo 😂😂
@filimongalogavros53015 жыл бұрын
R . I . P . Leonard Nemoy .
@giosy00723 жыл бұрын
🖖
@shreddersaurusrex32311 ай бұрын
0:50 “At great cost, yes” is such an understatement lol
@ij13763 жыл бұрын
Benedict Cumberbatch only had a few seconds on screen here, but even that tiny bit...guy's acting is professional.
@MoltenUprisingMK2 жыл бұрын
"Dammit, man, I'm a doctor, not a torpedo technician!" It's the little things, man. The little things.
@silverloony11703 жыл бұрын
After all of the crazy things Spock-Prime experienced throughout all his years on the Enterprise...he still considers Khan to be the greatest threat he and original crew ever had to fight. Damn, that's scary. You know you have to break your vows when you're reminded of your greatest nightmare.
@Doomzdeh2 жыл бұрын
I mean, he’s not wrong. Khan would’ve destroyed the Enterprise and killed all of them several times if he hadn’t been so arrogant and vengeful.
@filimongalogavros53015 жыл бұрын
Khan Nuniegh Singh is the most dangerous adversary the Enterprise has ever faced .
@SpreadingtheMuse4 жыл бұрын
Most Dangerous? Sure. Just except for a planet killer, a proto Q, telekinetic sadists, several psycho computers, an evil Kirk, an entire militant Starfleet empire, a 5000 year old immortal, a vampiric cloud, and a giant green hand :/
@rwboa224 жыл бұрын
@@SpreadingtheMuse, let alone a 20th Century Earth probe that may have entered the Delta Quadrant via a wormhole and became the first Earth-built machine assimilated by the Borg.
@Techburn9974 жыл бұрын
@@SpreadingtheMuse It is also the fact that they are facing Khan seven years before they would have in the OTL (2260 for Into Darkness, 2267 for TOS, 2285 for Wrath of Khan), Spock once hearing his name would have immediately linked the attack on Starfleet Headquarters and the obvious conclusion that Khan is an even more dangerous threat here given both their victories against him in TOS was due to his unfamiliarity with Federation technology and protocols as well a general lack of experience in the Enterprise and its crew and having not faced those other threats during the 5 year missions. Even then their victory came at a much greater cost with the Vengence YOLOing into San Francisco.
@SpreadingtheMuse4 жыл бұрын
@@Techburn997 This Khan 'might' be in a better position than the OTL Khan, but he's still tribble food compared to the parade of planet killing weapons in TOS alone, to say nothing of the movies. Nomad, Doomsday Machine, Neural Cells...and various super-beings (Organians) who could disable Starfleet from half a galaxy away. Compared to them either Khan is just a whining kid.
@cleekmaker004 жыл бұрын
For the Record... it's Khan Noonien Singh.
@tanall59595 жыл бұрын
1:52 The ultimate answer.
@NA1c1583 жыл бұрын
Thats how deadly Khan is. He is so dangerous that Spock breaks a vulcan vow to warn the new enterprise to be ready.
@dancastro47325 жыл бұрын
If Disney ever makes a Star Wars movie on Grand Admiral Thrawn who is one of the most badassed villains in the novels ala the new canon and Legends novels Heir To The Empire-The Last Command as well as Outbound Flight Benedict Cumberbatch would be so perfect. Not only does he look like Mitth'raw'nuruodo but he has the cold, calculating and menacing voice too but Thrawn is not human. He is a an alien species known as the Chiss and is the first and only near human alien to be an officer in Darth Sidious's empire
@kaijudirector53364 жыл бұрын
Ironic, since they got a Sherlock villain to play him in Rebels...
@furioussherman72654 жыл бұрын
@@kaijudirector5336 And said Sherlock villain is exactly who they should get to play the Grand Admiral in anything live-action still.
@lordsaladiino88514 жыл бұрын
Imagine how fresh would've been having a general as the main villain of the new trilogy. No powers, just a brilliant strategist trying to rebuild the empire. No dark sith, they're gone, the jedi are their, just a "normal" guy playing with all of them without the force
@darthrevan59763 жыл бұрын
@@kaijudirector5336 wait who played him in rebels?
Most powerful moment of the movie. Simply incredible performance from Nimoy.
@giosy00723 жыл бұрын
Of course, there was if they shoot a final scene where the crew, after Kirk awakens, say goodbye to Spock Prime one last time. It really fit. At least to be able to reassure Spock Prime that everyone was still alive. I err?
@Rorschach0034 жыл бұрын
1:14 Classic Kirk maneuver. He used that on Khan in TOS
@noeladams47713 жыл бұрын
The way he speaks to his younger self about Khan just shows how much of a nightmare he was to the original enterprise crew.
@ericbowers1471 Жыл бұрын
This scene gave me chills, Spock realized he had to help the crew knowing that Khan was in this reality
@giosy0072 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about you, but I'm annoyed that Spock Prime's on-screen "last words" weren't shown to us. I mean, they show us the moment after the call, but not Spock Prime's actual answer. Wbat is the sense?
@joseSanchez-ej2oh3 жыл бұрын
I interpreted Spock talking about Khan as him addressesing a direct consequence of his and nero's arrival The fact that Spock and the Enterprise ran into khan so much earlier was because the federation intensified exploration after Vulcan was destroyed, which old Spock blamed Nero and himself for, due to his perceived failure The Enterprise ran into Khan much sooner than he has hoped and was the last thing in Khans way
@synapticdragon21574 жыл бұрын
When Khan admitted whom he was in the brig.. there was virtually no reaction from Kirk (couldn't see spock) But I wanna believe that he hadn't put 2 and 2 together till Prime Spock said his entire name out loud.. THEN new spock remembered the name/person from history
@JnEricsonx4 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but it'd be like for someone in 2020 knowing every European warlord from the middle ages.
@samsonguy10k4 жыл бұрын
@@JnEricsonx Very true. A lot of them went by a different name, acquiring the one we would recognize through their exploits. Genghis Khan was born with the name Temujen, the name he was likely called by his closest generals and wife.
@akirawolf98284 жыл бұрын
@@JnEricsonx Khan was either the leader or the most prominent (can’t remember off the top of my head) of the Augments that took over Earth during the Eugenics War. That war either led into or was a part of the nuclear World War 3 that preceded Earth’s First Contact with the Vulcans. I feel like the name drop was closer to bringing up Adolf Hitler in terms of infamy, considering his lasting impact on human history.
@CorekBleedingHollow6 жыл бұрын
Comon… you forgot to include the EPIC intro and music of Mr. Spock
@JohnArbutden2 жыл бұрын
"Did you defeat him?" "At great cost, yes." "How?" "I died."
@PTLowChannel3 жыл бұрын
The MINUTE WE GET TO THE BRIDGE DROP HIM 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@futuremovieactor3 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think this was his final scene as Spock. God rest.
@giosy0072 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about you, but I'm annoyed that Spock Prime's on-screen "last words" weren't shown to us. I mean, they show us the moment after the call, but not Spock Prime's actual answer. Wbat is the sense?
@futuremovieactor Жыл бұрын
@@giosy0072 Oh I thought Spock was being informed by another Vulcan that Spock Prime passed away, not that he called him to tell him he was about to die. Haven't seen Beyond in years. Been meaning to rewatch though. * His final on-screen line though was: "At great cost, yes."
@randycox23103 жыл бұрын
I love how old Spock is faced with a crisis of character and chooses humanity
@giosy00723 жыл бұрын
Of course, there was if they shoot a final scene where the crew, after Kirk awakens, say goodbye to Spock Prime one last time. It really fit. At least to be able to reassure Spock Prime that everyone was still alive. I err?
@spadesofpaintstudios17192 жыл бұрын
Hearing Kahn’s full name actually links him to Data’s family heritage I’m the next generation since the last name matches for data’s father who himself comes from a family of geneticist who went from genetics to machinery leading to data.
@annabiotic10789 ай бұрын
I think this is the most powerful exchange in the Kelvin movies. I always get chills.
@jonathanroberts-bj7ylАй бұрын
Who thought that would be the last time he would do Spock.
@simonjackson72694 жыл бұрын
Cucumber Patch is brilliant!!
@TheCraigy1113 жыл бұрын
'How did you beat him?' 'I hugged a reactor, and Kirk performed the Shatner maneuver.'
@markfroman738 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Khan and Kirk join forces for a bit was fun.
@matt821 Жыл бұрын
I remember absolutely nothing about this film, except this scene.
@damage68363 жыл бұрын
Was never a star trek person never seen any episodes but I'll bet spock talking about khan was a crazy cool scene for star trek fans..made me wish I watched the episodes
@giosy00723 жыл бұрын
Of course, there was if they shoot a final scene where the crew, after Kirk awakens, say goodbye to Spock Prime one last time. It really fit. At least to be able to reassure Spock Prime that everyone was still alive. I err?
@damage683623 күн бұрын
@@giosy0072watching it felt like I really missed out. Got chills in this scene with spock talking about khan even without having seen the old shows, movies or knowing anything about star trek
@charliemay98934 жыл бұрын
I've watched old spock over and over!
@sdprazak5 жыл бұрын
As much as I love to see Nimoy reprise his role, I really felt this scene should not have happened. I would’ve liked to see the young Spock figure it out on his own.
@mdteletom12885 жыл бұрын
If anything the filmmakers should've changed Khan's name to something else, made him a new villain and like you said, let the new Spock figure it out himself but they took the easy out for a chance to bring Nimoy back.
@Willaev5 жыл бұрын
It really was a cop-out.
@Commander_Shepard.5 жыл бұрын
It also would've made Spock's farewell to Spock in first movie the last appearance of Nimoy which would have been much more impactful
@Princess2Warrior5 жыл бұрын
@@mdteletom1288 *That would've been pointless - after the **_Star Trek_** reboot, everyone was talking about how they should introduce Khan next - and it was a good idea.* *Nimoy being back was also a good idea - part of the whole reason that there is a Kelvin-Universe, is because of Prime-Spock and his role to play in that universe. So this whole thing was necessary and needed.*
@mdteletom12885 жыл бұрын
@@Princess2Warrior I don't recall anyone asking for Khan to come back, at least not in the form or manner Abrams did. What I recall was when it was announced Khan would be coming back the vast majority of fans were saying how stupid it was to be remaking the plots and characters from the original movie series already, thus not only my comment criticizing the move, but several others as well. My favorite was the 3rd movie of the reboot since the characters were developing on their own and it's almost to the point where, except for McCoy, any resemblance between this crew and the original one is purely coincidental.
@johntuttle2825 Жыл бұрын
That is good and amazing part. Spock's fight with Khan later is very good too.
@Gcha20012 жыл бұрын
Funny that McCoy says he’s not a torpedo technician when in the prime universe that exactly what he and Spock do to beat Chang.
@burtonryan50 Жыл бұрын
"Did you defeat him?" "At great costs...yes." "How?" You REALLY don't wanna know, Spocko.
@giosy0072 Жыл бұрын
I don't know about you, but I'm annoyed that Spock Prime's on-screen "last words" weren't shown to us. I mean, they show us the moment after the call, but not Spock Prime's actual answer. Wbat is the sense?
@TheRealPsychoDevil11 ай бұрын
When Spock Senior tells young Spock about Khan, this becomes a bootleg paradox. The information is passed from future self to past self and the original source of that information becomes lost and unknown.
@sonogamirinne717210 күн бұрын
Other timeline thing exists but what ever
@Elitesolider10232 жыл бұрын
I love how old Spock doesn't really want to tell his other self about what happened but he doesn't want to see himself go through what he went through to defeat Khan again so he has no choice but to proceed with the answers.
@carl_anderson93153 жыл бұрын
Jokes aside, Kahn’s greatest trait is his determination. He’s smart, but Kirk has being able or outsmart him just as well. But where Kirk fails is on underestimating how far Kahn was determined to accomplish his aspirations and his will to destroy Kirk’s spirit and to dominate the world. Just as The Joker from The Dark Knight, or as Thanos in Infinity War, just the fact that Kahn is alive and free is reason enough for the Enterprise to be scared. Their existence alone is a threat to all surrounding population. Kahn’s ability to persuade, control and subjugate others and to expand his power over a group of people is remarkable, he can intimidate and take control over the Enterprise in minutes.
@hawkstringfellow5 жыл бұрын
Spock prime has already lived and died to him they faced Khan 100s of years ago in the 23rd century now he's traveled back to the 22 century and seeing his younger self that's how he knows time travel geeesh!!!
@dboymax14 жыл бұрын
Actually it's still the 23rd century he traveled back to...22nd Century was Captain Archer's time....
@cobracorporal67384 жыл бұрын
🖖 Mr. Spock 🖖 Mr. Spock
@PrincessToyNerd Жыл бұрын
Bones: Oh gods, there’s two of them!!!
@rigurat4 жыл бұрын
Even in the future video chat still has pixelation artifacts.
@PackerBronco3 күн бұрын
@0:54 They cut away from the best part of their conversation! Spock II: Did you defeat him? Spock I: At great cost, yes ... Spock II: How? ... Spock I: Well, I had to go into a radioactive chamber and get exposed to a lethal dose of radiation. Spock II: I don't understand. If it was lethal, why are you still here? Spock I: I came back from the dead. Spock II: Okay ... I don't know if we can bring anyone back from the dead, but I'll keep it in mind. Spock I: Before I died, I said "The ship? Out of danger?" And Jim told me it was. We were separated by a pane of glass. Spock II: (furiously writing it all down) Lethal radiation ... Pane of glass, "ship out of danger ..." good ... good ... Spock I: And then I said to Jim: "I have and always will be your friend" Spock II: Great line. What else? Spock I: Well, our hands meet on the either side of the glass. Spock II: Nice touch - well, not touch. You couldn't touch, could you? Spock I: No ... but it was a nice moment nonetheless ... Spock II: (putting down his pen) That's gold Spock I. Gold! Anything else we should do? Spock I: Well, Jim did yell "KHAAAAAANNNN!" really loud during the battle. That was pretty cool. Spock II: I like that. I'll try to use that if I can. Well .... I better get back to KHAAAAAAAANNNNN! Thanks for the advice Spock I!!!! Spock I: Good luck Spock II.
@brucelee68154 жыл бұрын
One scene gave me chills
@joshuachristiansen82092 жыл бұрын
Khan was definitely the lone exception
@joshua.dmurphy86434 жыл бұрын
God bless you Mr spock Live long and prosper you amazing badass
@DavidEvans_dle Жыл бұрын
Then Spock should say - There's the Gorn, don't kill the Captain, Doomday machine - explode a Starship in it, The Great Barrier There's this thing that think's its God, etc... :P
@otakuwolf4ever9853 жыл бұрын
Vow or no vow, Elder Spock knew he had to give them something because he knew just how deadly Khan was and what he would bring to the galaxy if he had his way.
@jonathanroberts7272 жыл бұрын
Not the same khan Noonien Singh of course.
@NoelToronen932 ай бұрын
"in your travels did you ever encounter a man named Shaka Khan?"
@mattwho813 жыл бұрын
Wonder if Kirk and Spock filled the crew in on old Spock... if not they’d be some pretty confused bridge ensigns wondering who the hell this guy is supposed to be.
@casbot71 Жыл бұрын
*Ambassador Spock:* His one weakness is he has two dimensional tactical thinking....
@discombubulate22563 жыл бұрын
that knee sent that dude into orbit. all the broken ribs must be the result.
@plus_sign3 жыл бұрын
these films are underrated tbh
@giosy00723 жыл бұрын
Of course, there was if they shoot a final scene where the crew, after Kirk awakens, say goodbye to Spock Prime one last time. It really fit. At least to be able to reassure Spock Prime that everyone was still alive. I err?
@bucca24 жыл бұрын
"At great cost" I assume he didn't tell Spock that the cost was "My life"
@giosy00723 жыл бұрын
Of course, there was if they shoot a final scene where the crew, after Kirk awakens, say goodbye to Spock Prime one last time. It really fit. At least to be able to reassure Spock Prime that everyone was still alive. I err?
@asamangareader41323 жыл бұрын
I literally searched " Spock outplayed Khan" for this scene lol. One of my favourite scene
@joe973911 ай бұрын
1:05 Where's the Kirk-Fu!? Chops, dropkicks, Ax Handle smash..?
@R4Y2k5 жыл бұрын
"He's brilliant, ruthless and he won't hesitate to kill every last one of you" So basically he's your standard scifi villain :P
@alfredabraham78225 жыл бұрын
Or every standard movie villain for that matter.
@crismonlightning75424 жыл бұрын
No he is better than any movie or Sci Fi villain ever created even during the sixties
@Reprodestruxion4 жыл бұрын
Don’t mock Hugo Drax like that
@walmartpimp22 жыл бұрын
I'd love for Tony Dalton to play Khan in Strange New Worlds.
@thomcaffrey41673 жыл бұрын
1:09 Jean Luc Picard??? lmao
@joe973911 ай бұрын
Bri tell him about the "2-Dimensional thinking"
@SnowyNightFlyer4 жыл бұрын
JJ: Mr Nimoy, hi, sorry to bother you. Yeah, I know I promised to not bother you again...it’s just that the new film is a troubled production at best. Can we get you to do one last cameo? Nimoy: Sure...at great cost.
@Dim4323 Жыл бұрын
This path is you're and you're alone
@Captainkebbles13923 күн бұрын
Khan The Green Goblin Joker All villains that bring immediate sense of dread, reverence, and horrific back story
@asimioso Жыл бұрын
Epic lines.
@deadturret404910 ай бұрын
I probably would have liked this movie more if they made Khan a hero. The kelvin timeline khan doesn't have the same history with the enterprise crew, and it would have been an interesting spin on the character instead of doing a poorly written wrath of khan remake.
@DavidLS14 жыл бұрын
Temporal Prime Directive or not, Spock Prime should have time warped back in time, assembled a fleet and saved Vulcan from destruction. And on the way back, he could have swung by Old Earth and picked up a few more whales.
@treblam16 жыл бұрын
The greatest cost........
@jonathanroberts-bj7yl4 ай бұрын
Not the same Khan of course.
@paulinayexannihtorres17098 ай бұрын
Imagine In Deviantart With The Animation Style Like To Spiderverse Is Star Trek Star Trek Verse
I'm confused is this the same spock who appears in the wrath of Khan or is it Leonard nemoy playing a different version of the character he played before
@jamesonoof59735 жыл бұрын
When i see lighting, its khans punches that makes the thunder sound. 1:05
@80sKidfromthe90s Жыл бұрын
Khan vs Klingons was an awesome scene.
@rcslyman89294 жыл бұрын
"That being said, Khan Noonian Singh is the most dangerous adversary the Enterprise ever faced." Also faced by Enterprise including, but not limited to: a living god from Earth mythology, a child with Q-like powers, a child that probably was a Q, two different probes launched from Earth that obtained sentience and were capable of untold destructive power, a gigantic space amoeba that wiped out an entire starship in an instant, a literal doomsday device powered by destroying and consuming entire planets... But the guy in the light cruiser that got a lucky shot because Kirk spent a little too much time behind a desk, and was so inexperienced that the Z axis was a complete mystery to him... that's the most dangerous adversary. And no, I'm not including M5 in this list, because it got thwarted by pi.
@AnansiTheSpider83 жыл бұрын
Maybe Prime Spock is coming from the perspective and opinion of "This adversary actually caused me to DIE, unlike all the others!"
@rcslyman89293 жыл бұрын
@@AnansiTheSpider8 I mean, it was Spock's first time wearing a red uniform...
@AnansiTheSpider83 жыл бұрын
@@rcslyman8929 LOL! So very true!
@johnbjorkman41443 жыл бұрын
Exactly - So perhaps, a la The Matrix Oracle, Spock said that because it's what new Spock 'needed to hear' to get him to act appropriately.
@Doomzdeh2 жыл бұрын
I mean, none of those adversaries usually came close to legitimately killing everyone on the Enterprise. And none of them ever succeeded in actually killing a MAIN character like Spock. Khan didn’t lose due to any ingenuity or cunning by the Enterprise’s crew any of the times that they faced him. He lost purely due to his own arrogance and unwillingness to control his emotions. Without those flaws, he would’ve defeated them easily.
@datrhbrian3 жыл бұрын
Dr Strange could use his time stone
@BooBop19873 жыл бұрын
My 2 main problems about the scene when we seen our Spock for the very last time. 1. Where is everybody reaction of seeing the Old Spock for the first and last time. 2. The young Spock is talking to the Old Spock at the very wrong time. They need to speak at a other area somewhere else and not on a ship when there is people in there.
@arthurhill34544 жыл бұрын
I really like leonard niymo is back in Star trek into darkness prime Mr Spock.
@bmarcelo2 жыл бұрын
Khan Prime was portrayed by Ricardo Montalban in the 80s...
@Grahf05 жыл бұрын
Why could the Enterprise not tell New Vulcan to tell the federation to send help? I get that the location and position might have made it difficult to get a message to Earth, but they are clearly getting ahold of someone else.
@samsonguy10k4 жыл бұрын
Because the Federation, or Starfleet, was under the command of Admiral Marcus. As such anybody they talk to couldn't be trusted to follow through.
@Grahf04 жыл бұрын
@@samsonguy10k But upon fleeing the USS Vengeance, they immediately tried to get ahold of Starfleet before they were shot out of warp and crippled.
@jackychang91484 жыл бұрын
@@Grahf0 Because Marcus was dead. Anyone following him didn't have to answer to his insane goals anymore.