Star Trek's BUDGET Galaxy-class | Nebula-class Starship Explained

[@MrSheckstr]

The best thing about the nebula class was that it finally meant that TNG had gotten a budget increase to have something other than the galaxy that wasnt 100 years old

[@tonyjackson4078]

@MrSheckstr yeah up till then it was the 5 Galaxy Glass and like 500 Excelsior Class making up the fleet.

[@kunserndsittizen2655]

@@tonyjackson4078 and 4200 MIRANDA

[@VikCachat]

@@tonyjackson4078 Don't forget the death trap class.

[@killingragethrowback]

@@tonyjackson4078 And however many aging Constellations they had.

[@MrSheckstr]

@@VikCachat is that the oberths or the mirandas ? Seriously i wish there was a way to do a rewrite of TNG…. Maybe a pre farpoint era where we would see the galaxy era variants we saw at Best of Both worlds …. Nebula, springFields , etc…. Have them all have the horseshoe themed bridge…. But with subtle variations to show them to be a lower class of vessel… have the two seat command area layout of the voyager…. A single command seat but with an XO station up on the upper tier have a very cramped layout akin to TOS constitution but with TNG styling …

[@yupmathumb]

I always preferred the Nebula Class over the Galaxy BUT only because it looked like a more beefy ship with engines and such more tucked in for a smaller target and more protection from above. Always looked like more of a combat ship than the Galaxy Class.

[@Joseph1701-A]

@@yupmathumb Agreed 💯

[@rowdydog]

Well said, my thoughts exactly. The Nebula does appear to be more of a combat vessel. I never noticed the size of the nacelles, good call.

[@killingragethrowback]

In universe, the nacelles placed outside the body is said to allow better speeds. But closer in does mean they're better protected. That's also why they have ramscoops in front of the nacelle, so any steller matter captured goes straight to the engine. Notice how the Klingons didn't put ramscoops at the front of the nacelles though. Instead, in front of their engines, they had disruptors. Because that's what they prioritize.

[@Morhek]

It's certainly a more efficient-looking class. Same saucer, same secondary hull, same nacelles, but without the nacelle struts and neck of the Galaxy, and with an attached pod. A tighter profile, more compact, like a Galaxy stripped down of the luxuries.

[@keyboardt8276]

​@@Morhekspace isn't really at a premium in space though

[@DocB03]

I’ve always thought of the Nebula v Galaxy like the Miranda v Constitution

[@richardludwig3673]

BIG difference is the Nebula has a secondary hull like her sister unlike the Miranda.

[@davidhernandez9985]

Copy and roger that Neblua-Class is almost warps-faster than those two starships.

[@krim7]

I am a simple man, I see a nebula-class in the thumbnail, and I click on it.

[@HangarBay]

That’s what we like to hear! - Jack

[@jasonknight7719]

The Nebula always made me think of a project galaxy reimagining of the Miranda. Probably what they were going for I’m sure.

[@romancernjak]

thats exactly what it looks like to me.

[@rarewolf4913]

You have to figure that all the classes of Enterprise probably have the variant - and in most cases they stand the test of time better than the flagship model. The California class could even be the Ambassador's - similar saucers. Excelsior could be the exceptional case, despite the shaky start they kept on going.

[@HyraxusPrimus]

@@rarewolf4913 I recently saw concept art for the TNG episode "The Pegasus," and originally the Pegasus was going to be the Miranda equivalent of an Ambassador class.

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

​@rarewolf4913 the Centaur is a Mirandafied Excelsior

[@souplike.homogenate]

I always liked this class for its implied ability to completely swap the mission module. It communicates a known need to move a massive bay to a site, full of science or torpedoes as needed.

[@froddy32623]

I think the stories of the cardassian wars need their own series.

[@warwolf88]

i love the nebula class especially the Sutherland class refit both are very solid classes😊

[@Gunnar001]

TNG era starships just look the best.

[@argentofox2567]

I would be happy to Captain a ship like this, might not be a hero ship but she still is front line starship that holds its own.

[@Big_Loo]

I would take a Nebula over a Galaxy all day long. I also like to think that Data commanded Sutherland from an auxiliary bridge/battle bridge. The ship was undergoing significant work, and the main bridge may have been unusable.

[@andrewblanchard2398]

FUN FACT the NEBULA class were conceived of during STAR TREK: TNG pre production GENE RODDENBERRY asked the design team to create a new version of the MIRANDA RELIANT class ship they submitted 5 designs the standard NEBULA class was second on the list the first was literally a MIRANDA RELIANT class with GALAXY class warp nacelles and a EXCELSIOR class saucer section that became the USS CENTAUR on DS9 in the episode A TIME TO STAND about SISKO destroying the KETRECEL WHITE facility EAGLEMOSS had a great version of the USS CENTAUR

[@krisgonynor689]

The best thing I like about this ship is the fact that the main shields are generated as an almost perfect sphere around the ship. This would prevent there from being any week points for enemies to target. It also would allow the warp field to also be a perfect sphere, saving power while improving speed and maneuverability. The weapons layout gives it a better 360 degrees of targeting as well. I always thought that the reason that the Borg built either cubical ships or spherical ships was for those very reasons - shields and warp drive field being a perfect sphere, while they can fire in all directions with equal amounts of firepower and types of weapons. In the Voyager Episode, "Scorpion", we see the Borg ships spinning on their central axis when they are fighting Species 8472. With each side firing and taking hits, then rotating so a new set of weapons can fire back, while also rotating the main shields so that they aren't hit in the same area multiple times. Knowing the Borg, by the time one section of ship had finished rotating back to a firing position, they would have repaired any damage and regenerated the shields in that area. We don't ever see them fight like that again, but they really never came up to an enemy that could take their ships out so easily.

[@HawkGTboy]

The main shuttlebay for the Nebula cracks me up, though. Anyone flying in or out of it will have to steer around that giant pylon.

[@keyboardt8276]

I think it's implied that an elongated rather than spherical warp field is better for higher speeds, at least with the Federation's technology

[@slighter]

My Farragut conversion kit just arrived yesteday, which means I am finally able to build one of those. What a coincidence that this video just came out.

[@HangarBay]

Oooh we’d love to see it

[@ItsTheNatMan]

I’d rather command a Nebula Class, they’re my favourite starship. It’s missing the Galaxy’s neck but with the rear pylon and module on the back I’d say the nebula is actually bigger.

[@mushroom330]

she may be the budget version but shes still a beast in her own right :)

[@crownprincesebastianjohano7069]

No, the Nebula is not a budget Galaxy Class. *_The Galaxy Class is a top-trim, premium Nebula Class._*

[@alanbaker2347]

The Galaxy class is a really Amazing Starship but I'd totally love to Command a Nebula class it's definitely in my favourite top 10 Starships

[@TK199999]

I always liked that fan made Ambassador version called the Apollo Class.

[@davidponseigo8811]

I would prefer a Nebula Class with a weapons pod for more torpedo launchers and higher amount of torpedoes !

[@jameslewis2635]

The basics of a slightly smaller but still powerful starship with the ability to fit modular mission pods is a tactically sound idea and fits the universe well. The fact that it had a crew of less than 800 signifies that this ship at least doesn't suffer from the stupid idea of having civilians running around on a ship that could well end up on defensive duties unlike its larger sister class (I have no idea what Gene Rodeenberry was thinking on that one).

[@bc303]

That's easy, the Galaxy-class was designed for 20 year long deep space exploration missions far outside of communications range with the Federation/Starfleet.

[@scockery]

The Galaxy class was launched at a time of prolonged peace in the Federation. the Klingons had been allies for decades. The Romulans were in an isolationist period. They later retconned in some recent border wars with the Cardassians, Talarians and Zenkathi (whom we never serve saw) in the fine Trek tradition of "tell but never show" big conflicts (until Deep Space Nine) A less militarized Starfleet was interested in long term exploration. Also, the saucer separation thing was thought of with civilians in mind.

[@SenorGato237]

Apparently starship necks are super expensive.

[@zerrodefex]

Also supervulnerable hence why the Sovereign-class didn't have much of a neck.

[@slighter]

@@zerrodefex Or Voyager

[@erichanson4475]

The economics of the 24th century are quite different. Money doesn't exist in the federation. The neck of the galaxy class represents an extraneous cost of time and resources, as well as a potential vulnerability by providing a larger target. The Nebula is more compact and has a more centralized mass, allowing it to be faster and more maneuverable at impulse speeds. The Nebula is 85% of the Galaxy with 95% of the capability. It's what you get when the engineers and field testers cut out the stuff that doesn't work and simplify the design for mass production. With the addition of mission pods on the back, which could be almost anything, the Nebula far surpasses the galaxy's capability.

[@rarewolf4913]

@@erichanson4475 The advantage of the neck would seem to be it makes it easier to separate the saucer. Whilst the Sovereign was designed with it mind, take the 'saucer' away from the Intrepid or Nebula, you don't have much of a ship left.

[@erichanson4475]

@@rarewolf4913 Short of the emergency separation and crash landing, the entire premise of saucer separation never made any sense. Even from the stated reasons in the show. It was stated at least twice, the purpose of the separation is to evacuate civilians and non combat personnel before an upcoming fight. Not only was a galaxy class never looking for a fight before the dominion war, Separating the ship means leaving your 2 largest phaser arrays and 2 primary impulse engines behind. The intrepid couldn't separate, and from what i can tell... The nebula couldn't either. The neck on a Galaxy represents a vulnerability. It is a long column filled with turbolifts, jeffreys tubes, and EPS conduits and not much else. Compacting the design saves on build time and resources without sacrificing anything other than optimal nacelle placement for a loss of top speed.

[@dgthe3]

Always liked the Nebbys. Compact designs always feel 'smarter' to me.

[@randybentley2633]

I love the Sutherland refit and would definitely take command of that ship.

[@NeonVisual]

Those tiny extra 2 nacelles looks like the starship was born with a parasitic twin.

[@BKBrunelle74]

The nebula class , I have to say, is one of my favorite ships and yes I would love to command one!

[@TheDarkIllumination]

A Nebula Class has the distinction of being the only ship to survive the battle of Wolf 529, even if was only due to blind luck.

[@Revkor]

actuallly an Excelsior did survive but that was due to Q

[@SiXiam]

359

[@scockery]

@@SiXiam No, Wolf 529 was an even worse massacre that Starfleet kept from the public. 🤫

[@augurseer]

Nebula, Miranda, Luna and Nova. My favs.

[@MrSheckstr]

Second thought…. Its has always been my head canon that the nebula class thst data was commanding was being operated out of a auxilary bridge station as the main bridge was being refitted and updated while in drydock

[@Th0ughtf0rce]

Yeah. Way too cramped and uncomfortable for a supposedly near top of the line ship.

[@MrSheckstr]

@@Th0ughtf0rce yeah i have an entire progression of how Each class in the galaxy era has a bridge layout a little bit “smaller” but with the TNG style … with fewer and command seating , first no bench seats, then a voyager style, then just a captain seat, until you end up with a TNG version of the TOS enterprise layout …. In that same vein the commanding officer of ships are reduced in rank in the same way regular navy vessels are bot always captain by someone with captain rank…

[@peterthx]

The CG Nebula made for DS9/VOY is a kitbash of a Galaxy and has a Galaxy secondary hull instead of the proper custom Nebula deflector dish and shape. Fan-made CG ships have corrected this but Eaglemoss used the Bonchune-sourced version for their USS Phoenix's main hull, so it's incorrect.

[@Deadeye313]

Always loved the Nebula since I was a kid, especially when I saw it in Generations in the theater. I've had many models of it over the years from Eaglemoss to the old Micromachines model. Loved it as a ship in games, too. Especially Star Trek Armada made it really cool with its shield draining ability. It will alway be one of the best star trek ship designs ever, I think.

[@fuzzynutter8344]

I’ve never really considered the Nebula as a budget Galaxy class or a little sister, more of an equivalent to the Galaxy, but in a reconfigured way. The Nebula’s interior volume isn’t far off while the ship’s components, many of which are the same as the Galaxy’s, are arranged in way to give it more compact dimensions. And while it didn’t have a neck connecting the saucer to the engineering hull, it had a neck/pylon on which the rear modules were located. I always preferred the Nebula while the Sutherland looks fabulous IMO. Was there ever a Miranda/Nebula equivalent of the Excelsior and Ambassador classes? Or even the Ross?

[@MrApplemat]

Always liked this ship what I wanted to see was it carrying another smaller ship on top of it though.

[@daltonryals3116]

I love how the starship theory for Starfleet evolved due to the limitations of the shows but really does fit so naturally. Having a grand ship-of-the-line like the Galaxy is great, but you're always going to need workhorses to patrol and conduct the thousands of needed missions. That's why I loved the both the concept of the small sister ships and that tried and true models like the Excelsior are so present. I dislike how rapidly ships are retired in the new Star Trek lore.

[@neilmitchell1485]

I always loved the nebula it seems like the real workhorse ship of starfleet, great video would love to see you do a video on the Normandy sr2 from mass effect

[@kevincorbin7320]

I remember reading that it was originally a Saucer ferry

[@RaddSpencer]

I don't understand why the Nebula would be the "buget" Galaxy class when, if anything, it's a larger ship. It's more compact but it clearly has more mass. The primary and secondary hulls are the same size, but the Nebula has the additional space afforded by the top module. I felt the same way about the Miranda, it was clearly larger and beefier than the Constitution but everyone calls it a "light" cruiser. It feels a lot like that old meme of the two glasses, one shorter and wider, the other taller and thinner, they hold the same amount of water but when you ask the kid which holds more water they point to the taller glass.

[@ncv-eu4rj]

The Miranda lacks the secondary hull and the rollbar is smaller than the Constitution II secondary hull.

[@RaddSpencer]

@@ncv-eu4rj Forget the rollbar, the Miranda has that boxy rear-hull portion added on to the back of the saucer, that more than makes up for the lack of the secondary hull. It's flatter, but much wider, giving the Miranda more interior space than the Constitution.

[@Twopaw]

@ncv-eu4rj @RaddSpencer Every big point you both brought up I'll heartily affirm; that reduced the Nebula's vulnerability to catastrophic decompression or full-thickness hull failure while still having comparable or better mass; roughly the same inertia but a hardened, more maneuverable target compared to the Galaxy; the latter class reimagined as a combat frigate and tactical vessel. it's the Galaxy-class' TNG-era Miranda-class, if the former took the place of a Constitution Refit. The Galaxy wasn't overspecialized as much as a jack-of-all-trade vessel, meant as a self-sustaining resupply and self-contained mobile starbase, but a starship by design. Had events not gone so far and unexpectedly off the rails during TNG's run, two years into the Galaxy-class' addition to Starfleet and no less than a year into the 1701-D's commission- Jean-Luc Picard is not her first centerseat; that is Beta canon but I impress it is widely understood and accepted among the Trek writing community and many herein who've been enthusiasts of the Galaxy's tale far longer than our chosen trade's efforts- the Nebula would still be an optional fork of the Galaxy as a combat/tactical support craft but likely would've gone the way of the Franz Joseph 'Federation Class', or Dreadnought, the three-nacelled superbeast that until being declared Alpha canon often had a poor reputation when it got any notice, and that didn't necessarily change after the fact. The U.S.S. Entente, NCC-2120 is the first, and to my knowledge the only Dreadnought (TOS Federation class) mentioned in any Trek film or television project, itself originally in the 1973 Star Trek Technical Manual. The decision was made to include it in filmed canon because during TMP's early scenes at Epsilon Nine, the same subspace transmission heard better in one enhanced version foley track but heard clearly in almost every version of the film's audio are the two Scouts (Hermes-class, not spoken in the film audio but one is defined as a 'Cygnus Class' that I'm told was because of a reading or transcript error from Alan Dean Foster's treatment for TMP and a second recording wasn't worth the production budget being further bloated) U.S.S. Columbia, NCC-621, and U.S.S. Revere, NCC-595. The name and registry of the Dreadnought 'Entente' NCC-2120 can be made out, with difficulty in all versions but one. Because every version of TMP's audio track mentions the Hermes-class 'Revere' and 'Columbia' and the one version of TMP that included the enhanced audio in the soundtrack confirmed and matched the Entente listed in Franz Joseph's 1973 Technical Manual, the decision was made to set the Federation-class in Alpha Canon, filmed. The Nebula is meant to look like a compact, no-frills Galaxy-class that's easily underestimated- not unlike the Miranda-class 'U.S.S. Reliant' in The Wrath of Khan (1982)- but can eat the Galaxy alive if it has a centreseat also trained at the Academy and suited for that captaincy. It can do the same work as the Galaxy but its flexibility is heavily predicant of her captain's, and how skilled in that centreseat- and their unpredictability- that captain has the potential to be. It was introduced perfectly in TNG's The Wounded, which itself set the stage for the tale of Deep Space Nine not long afterwards when the second TOS spinoff got its wings at the beginning of 1993.

[@erictolle6847]

@@ncv-eu4rj According to the starship volumetrics page, the Constitution refit class is 234,928 m³, and the Miranda class is 217, 770 m³. So the Miranda is about 90% the size of the Constitution B class. By comparison, the Galaxy class is 5,820,983 m³, and the Nebula is 4,443,196 m³. That neck section really adds a lot of volume.

[@SkepticalChris]

It took me almost decades to realize, that the Nebula is to the Galaxy, what the Miranda-Class was to the Constitution class a "squat" version of the starship.

[@watcherzero5256]

Aesthetically and for mission role it was a great design and update of the Miranda. The only problem I had with it was that they never used a lot of the internal volume on the Enterprise which was just empty and not fitted out, so it implies Starfleet was similarly mass producing all these Nebulas with an inefficent use of internal volume. Perhaps thats why the mission pod wasnt kept on succeeding ship classes, it was unnecessary as there was enough spare internal volume.

[@zerrodefex]

It felt like that flyby scene from Generations had some screwy scaling because I don't think that the Oberth-class is THAT small. It looked like a runabout flying past that Nebula-class. Also we know it's a kitbash but one wonders in canon what the justification was for having that wedge pod pylon right in line with the approach to the main shuttlebay on the saucer, talk about an awkward flight path. At least the USS Phoenix had twin pylons giving a clear path but still seems unnecessarily awkward.

[@Dracounguis]

I wouldn't call it a budget Galaxy I mean it's got all the same parts except for the neck. Even if those parts are a bit smaller? So it's going to have most of the manufacturing costs anyway. I think it's designed as more dictated by the role it is supposed to play. Now if you say the budget part is from internals, I guess I have no information to refute that. Maybe half of it is empty where the Galaxy class is full of expensive equipment. 🤷

[@mrhaag]

I absolutely hated the nebula class at first but over the years I became really fond of it.

[@RickBerman-iv2il]

With the triangular module, isn’t it likely the Nebula’s mass was greater than the Galaxy or the same? Seems highly unlikely it was less. Much like the Miranda is actually bigger than the Constitution (credit YT: EC Henry). More generally, I’m not sure what the canonical Nebula looks like - as it’s different in most outings. The cgi model has different proportions, the physical different weapons (even between episodes) and the ST: Online version has impulse engines!

[@src6339]

I like to think that the constitution class or galaxy class long neck platforms are starfleets first generation production model for primium early model tech. As technologies are refined and standardised that technology finds itself fitted into older models and specially designed more economic short neck designs like the miranda or the nebula. Though i doubt that the franchise itself holds to such rule in its world building, instead favouring a "that look neat" mentality 🤔

[@treavy1]

I always thought the torpedo launcher looked like a giant solar panel

[@leonielson7138]

Hot take I plan to use in my "Star Trek Adventures: Captain's Log" - the USS Enterprise and the other Galaxy- and Nebula-classes were meant to explore a new spiral arm of the galaxy in the 2360's, but the reemergence Romulan Star Empire forced Starfleet to pull the fleet back. The "primary hulls" of the Galaxy-class were meant to be left on planets to serve as the starts of new colonies/research stations, this is why they have "battle bridges", which are actually the primary bridge, and the bridge on the saucer is supposed to be administrative offices for operations center for the new colonies. Following the exploration fleet of Galaxy-classes, the Nebula-classes following with new saucers full of colonists and smaller colony modules (instead of the AWACs/weapons pods/nacelles) full of additional supplies. Picard was supposed to be the leader of the new colony (which is why his ready room was in the saucer), while Riker had command of the ship, but with the way that events turned out, Picard remained in command with Riker as his executive officer. The crew of the NCC-1701-D were lost at Veridian 3 when the Nexus washed over them (the events of the other movies and Worf joining DS9 all occur within the Nexus). At the dawn of a new millennium, the new Ross- and Sutherland-class starships resume the project that had been abandoned 30 years earlier.

[@CaptainSeato]

If only they had the time do so, the modelmakers could have made the Nebula into a Galaxy-kitbash of a precursor Saber-class instead.

[@OdenKnight]

I still get giddy every time I see ZEFilms clips being used in videos like these. Kudos to you for giving credit to the film sources. 🖖🏿

[@HangarBay]

Of course! ZEFilms is fantastic and we love to give credit to those who make fantastic things!!

[@MaJieMao]

I always thought the Nebula was the coolest ship, it looked much more sturdy, it also became the ship of Starfleet Engineering Corp and best sci ship in many combat ST games.

[@DrewLSsix]

A popular idea about the Sutherland is that its bridge wasn't functional at the time of the episode, so the room seen on screen is an axillary or improvised command deck. And my own bit of head canon is that the quad nacelle variant was part of the early anti Borg initiative, a standard Nebula upgraded to have the speed and endurance to take on the Borg, but as demonstrated, it simply lacked the power and technology to truly take on a cube. Though its apparent endurance during the battle, surviving to the very end despite no doubt being in the thick of the fighting means we should probably give the ship some credit.

[@cristianruiz1095]

5:00 In this chapter I remember that the Nebula class ship can turn at warp speed.

[@dc521977]

The Nebula class is my favorite Starfleet ship. I see the Constitution/Miranda classes to be a lot like the Galaxy/Nebula classes.

[@Red-jr9qm]

I would rather command a Nebula class for the mission profile it was used for. Galaxy classes tend to go on long-duration deep space missions, while the Nebula tend to stay more within UFP space for logistical missions. Both have similar internal space and amenities, so there would be no discernible loss of comfort, but you would get to rotate home more often.

[@AngelEmfrbl]

"kit bashing" is basically like what happened in WW2 when they would take the same parts and try to reconfigure them into something new by adding or removing parts.

[@zazaranger5]

Where are the impulse engines on the nebula?

[@cragerzz]

Nice seeing you branching out and doing your own thing Jack. Good luck mate 🍀❤

[@HangarBay]

Much appreciated

[@rcoony]

To me, I seems like the Nebula class is just as big and capable as the Galaxy class. While it may look a bit like a 24th century version of the Miranda class, it still kept the secondary hull and added a thing up top. But just like how the Miranda's adaptability and modularity allowed it to far outlive the much more difficult to update Constitution Class, I wouldn't be surprised if the Nebula outlived the Galaxy for the same reasons. I kind of miss the use of physical models. Sure, it's great having so many different designs now, but they feel more throwaway, since it's relatively cheap and easy to make new ones as needed. In a way, it felt more exciting seeing a new class back then, being that it happened pretty rarely. Also, I don't like how all the ships are now a dingy grey and poorly-lit.

[@Daginni1]

I always like to believe that different/shared bridge sets for ships are because the bridge itself is a exchangeable module. Each one a different specialization/optimization for the missions type that ship would be performing. The Galaxy bridge for example is extravagant because it will be the first thing other civilizations will see during First Contact.

[@richardthompson438]

during the battle of wolf 359 there was rumor that there was one ship that survived the borg attack and it was a nebula class

[@ultramaximusreviews]

My favorite TNG ship

[@tra-viskaiser8737]

Nebula is my favorite class... but galaxy is right with it. I think its more maneuverable, but the galaxy class has the saucer separation to make it more maneuverable. Nebula is heavier than the stardrive section of the galaxy, and can use all the power available. It has its pluses and the galaxy has its pluses.

[@WongGame727]

I read years ago, before the internet, that the drive section of the nebula was ment to have no saucer and be stationed at starbases incase a galaxy saucer needed to pickup… it wasn’t until later when they were given their own saucer and made their own dedicated ship.

[@HacksignKT]

I've noticed ships with Japanese names in Star Trek tend to get blown up... Honshu, Kyushu, and ofc the Yamato

[@Carstuff111]

The Galaxy-class, more to the point USS Enterprise NCC-1701-D may feel like home, but I would be plenty happy on a Nebula-class ship. The Galaxy-class is beautiful to me, but the Nebula-class appears more function over form. I tend to like well rounded vehicles in real life, be it land, sea, air or space, and they don't have to be pretty. I also have this weird thing for liking so called "glass cannon" vehicles as well, stuff that is light weight, can hit hard and move quickly, but can't take a beating.

[@Shinigami88X1]

Nebula Class reminds me of the Miranda class

[@johngolden3714]

I remember seeing this design for the first time in the TNG episode, "The Wounded". I always found the Enterprise-D to look a little weird, but I immediately liked the USS Phoenix. I remember trying to draw it when I was bored in class. Maybe its the contrarian in me but I wanted to command this ship because it was different from the Enterprise.

[@gamalierrodriguez7513]

I always liked the nebula class it always seemed like it could be a really good weapons platform for a warship

[@hudsonball4702]

You forgot to mention the USS Endeavor NCC-71805 which was the only ship to survive Wolf 359 and was mentioned in VOY with an entry from Captain Amasov's log about the battle. And it again appeared in First Contact as part of the Fleet. It was also part of Picard's blockade fleet during the Klingon Civil war. And Hell yes Picard RUINED the F and Titan-A/ Enterprise-G. The F never really got a chance to shine and renaming the Titan to the G was a HUGE disservice to the Titan. Not to mention now there are only 2 Enterprise left between the G and the J that will have to span 200 years or so. So the H and I will have to have VERY long service careers.

[@elcowabungahe-man6156]

This is my favorite class starship I love the design and I got in my star trek ship collection

[@maxbrooks5468]

I like the Nebula class so much tbh.

[@TedS.]

I used to see a version of the Nebula Class on Google long time ago and it was named USS APOLLO, and the weapons pods were totally different than I've ever seen.

[@1aikane]

I liked these ships. People look at them like a second, but I thought they were cool

[@furmanmackey5479]

Folks tend to forget, or overlook, the fact that the dish section could be separated from the engineering section as far back as the Original Series Constitution Class "Enterprise NCC 1701". It was only mentioned once that I know of.

[@lachbullen8014]

If I want to command a starship it would even be a avenger or Columbia class in the Galaxy style...

[@philly83]

A deleted scene from "The Wounded" has Maxwell saying he always wanted a Galaxy class ship. That indicates even some captains of Nebula class ships would prefer the Galaxy

[@Th0ughtf0rce]

Never heard of this scene. Is it uploaded somewhere?

[@Th0ughtf0rce]

The encyclopedia and many online sources state that the Nebula was slightly smaller than the Galaxy, contrary to real life and on-screen evidence. The only possible explanation is that they're talking about the stock model (i.e., without any pod attached).

[@shanenolan5625]

Budget ? How dare you ? 😂 i read somewhere she cost 10 percent less than the galaxy, but she was the most produced federation starship of the 24th century,

[@Th0ughtf0rce]

I daresay that source is plainly wrong. They're probably the same price or slightly more if the pods are included. Obviously, not the most produced as well. Unless we're talking about the Birth of the Federation game where spamming upgraded Nebulas is a viable strategy. 😂

[@shanenolan5625]

@Th0ughtf0rand ce the galaxy is bigger, the pods are mass produced or mission specific, I would see that makes them cheaper not more expensive, The nebula was in service for around a decade before the galaxy, and they were slowly produced, They were originally going to make 12 , but only made 6 , then they didn't start to mass produce until the dominion war , they were making them in large numbers before during and after tbg , they were modernising the fleet, Nebula is launched in the 2360s , and is in production still around nemesis, ( replacements from the vast loses in the war ) galaxy were being replaced with Ross class , When the paused galaxy, after the yomato, they continued with nebula and made better versions of them , and they waited until the galaxy refit to mass produce, and they made a large number of galaxy battleship/ carrier's during the war , But if it's not nebula and not galaxy, which ship was most produced then ? In your opinion ?

[@BigKnGa]

I always thought the Lexington and the Melbourne were excelsiors

[@rolandogamez]

In my mind, the Nebula Primary was scaled down 10% from the Galaxy, thus making it 3/4 the size. This would make it a much different ship, but the size would not be disintguishable on screen.

[@teresaravenshaw5477]

I prefer the Nebula, it feels more compact, this the shields can be tighter.

[@KaylieRayne]

I alays loved the Nebula class. They just look sleek. In STO they are power houses and are very fun to fly.

[@HangarBay]

Very fun!

[@darksepheroth4627]

Thank you for not making that tired ass Knight Rider joke.

[@bobrobinson1576]

I prefer the Nebula. Fewer weak spots and I do like the module idea.

[@jeffhallam2004]

Nebula Class Sir and If had been TMP era it would’ve been the Miranda

[@K.J.Schmutz]

Hands down command a Nebula class, i did in a ST:tng RPG

[@johngz3413]

I had to watch this episode twice strictly because you said Miles O'Brien is the most important human ever.

[@DarinRWagner]

If the saucer of the Nebula is the same size as that of the Galaxy, that means the Nebula has more mass than the Galaxy... not exactly an indication of a "budget version."

[@supermann627]

I always awaited to command either a nova or steamrunner class

[@antonybullock2240]

As someone who’s a professional model builder, technically is not a kitbash It’s a conversation. Kitbashing is taking a random interesting model kit piece and using it for something it wasn’t intended for, such as using a 1/35 lower half of a Sherman tank turret to add detail interest to the arse end of an X-wing studio model. It doesn’t have to even be a model kit piece. Look for the lemon squeezer on the wall of the hanger for Thunderbird 1. Though the original model did use a very futuristic looking TV areal for the sensor pod. That’s technically kitbashing.

[@naturelass]

the nebula was pretty much to replace the miranda class since the miranda was originally a patrol and logistics vessel basically what followed the constitution and later excelsior classes when the follow up science or colony ships arrived in a system, once the nebula class came about to fill that function the miranda was delegated to cargo, personel transport and starbase support with the nebula being the frontier logistics, patrol and cargo support.

[@andymac4883]

It's a silly thing, but I remain salty to this day that the Eaglemoss Nebulas were all based on the VOY/DS9 CG model rather than the physical model. The shape of the secondary hull is wrong, and there are too many windows on the saucer. It's even worse that they use that version for the Phoenix, which makes for a version of the ship that absolutely doesn't match up with what was on-screen, with the newer style of hull but that old AWACS style dorsal superstructure.

[@ketchakik]

Nebula class was always my fav tng era ship until we got the Akira class in ds9

[@danielcraig9666]

TNG Reliant was always cool.

[@rowdydog]

I'll take a Nebula class, please! I never really liked the Galaxy class.

[@caseycieslikowski2929]

Is it really though? It’s not like the Miranda where it’s just a saucer. It has the Galaxy Saucer and Startdrive section. The only thing missing is the neck.

[@ds6080]

No it's the better Galaxy class, ready for business rather than having it's neck and nose up in the air with the look at me attitude, from first seeing the round AWACs and then the better looking sleek triangle weapons pod version it is an example of successful kit bashing unlike the extra small nacelles variant which is an example of not what to do when kit bashing, I would be honoured to be in great company with these mentioned commander's of this class, Nebula was quite the hero ship for me being a quiet hero! in Redemption II such a great looking ship

[@turkin73k]

Nebula Class is a bad azz ship.

[@AnkhWolf]

I'd rather command something like a Nova class configured as a rapid respone/strike craft, question I do have about the Galaxy and Nebula classes is if the saucer sections where cross compatible with their engineering sections

[@bloodrave9578]

Dominion War era Nebula anyday

[@mxg75]

One thing that bothers me: The Nebula doesn’t have a neck, so it only has one shuttlebay, on the upper decks of the saucer. On the original variant, the accessory pod is supported by two thin pylons. A shuttle pilot would need to maneuver between the secondary hull, the pylons, and the sensor pod, but it’s a straight shot in and out. On the second, more prolific variant, the weapons pod is supported by a beefy central column, really restricting flight paths in and out of the shuttle bay. Pilots would need to cut a hard corner just after takeoff or just before landing.