Star Trek Strange New Worlds S02E08 'What about the justice, what about the victims'

[@arashinoakumyo3535]

I love the voice of M’benga’s actor. It can be so kind but with a subtle tone shift can be like hearing the devil speak.

[@johnsledge3942]

Such a great scene, this felt exactly like one of those classic Trek dilemmas with no clear and obvious resolution. I like that it was left open ended and lets you decide who was in the right/wrong. And it really does bring up some good questions about justice vs redemption and second chances.

[@Sirtop13]

The whole episode was both sides are kinda right in their own way, just top tier story telling.

[@harryc1971]

As much as i look forward to Bones showing up soon, i like M'Benga character and this was one of the best episodes so far.

[@zacharyfett2491]

INCOMING TRANSPORT! INCOMING TRANSPORT! M’Benga faced his personal demon, something most of us never get the chance at, and he did what must be done.

[@jaimebabb9968]

I think Pike comes across as a bit weak in this scene. I think that Picard would have pointed out that everyone who died on J'Gal is still dead; and that, now that Dak'rah is dead, the conflict that he was going to negotiate an end to will just continue. Nothing was served by his death.

[@pucochamp]

Exactly! Picard would have pointed out the facts are that a key negotiator is dead potentially prolonging the conflict and costing lives. And Picard would have used a louder stern tone with a trademark uniform tug to remind the doctor of his duty as a Star fleet officer. Pike is very sheepish in this scene. TNG would have written this better, sigh.

[@AndrewStephen-d4g]

"is it?" the calm way he says that is chilling.

[@deathstrike]

This was like the TOS where Kodos the Executioner ordered half of the 8000 colonists executed when he was Governor of Tarsus IV, an Earth Colony. Kevin Riley, James Kirk, and his brother George Samuel Kirk ,had survived the executions due to an exotic fungus destroying the colony's food supply. Kodos was then part of a travelling actors troupe. The Karidian Company of Players under Anton Karidian (Adrian Kodos real name). Until Kodos's daughter (spoilers ahead) Lenore Karidian, was killing people who could identify her father. She tried to kill James Kirk on stage, but her father intervened and took the shot for Kirk. You never know who someone really is.

[@louisdemarco7417]

The doctor is correct. Justice must be done

[@beyondthetech]

M'Benga is wonderful, but his voice is sometimes hard to hear or understand. What did he say exactly at 1:58?

[@canonest]

"I told you, I didn't start the fight"

[@beyondthetech]

@@canonest it’s actually right after that line. Figured it out. “…but I’m glad he’s dead.”

[@ShaolinShadowStroke]

@@canonest "I told you I didn't start the fight...but I'm glad he's dead."

[@bokmcdok]

Most powerful scene in the series so far. Both of them are right. And both of them are wrong. It's complicated, and messy, and there's no real way of figuring out what is really the moral thing to do here.

[@boombasett6038]

POWERFUL EPISODE

[@seanmansfield4853]

Does anybody know where I can listen to the ost in this scene? Whenever I try to find Strange New Worlds ost I only get the songs from Subspace Rhapsody.

[@Abraham-x]

Is it #27 on here? No One's Ever Neutral About Spaghetti kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHKkXohpd5l1qbs

[@brettwalters-n4u]

I bet this is the reason why M'Benga serves under McCoy later in the timeline...

[@JohnJohn-c1f6b]

So next black panther for marvel den?

[@louisdemarco7417]

Doc is correct.

[@DavidOfWhitehills]

I didn't start the fight. But I' m glad it started. Pike walked away. He didn't get it. M'Benga sighed, went back to his duties. Thinking, it will come.

[@andreweff1284]

"...but I'm glad he's dead " Kinda hard to hear with his voice but that's what he says. Had a similar meaning to what you thought he said, though.

[@bigpapi3672]

um marvel your new king i found him

[@Makman1994]

This episode dealt with PTSD way more maturely than DS9 ever did. DS9 is great, but the way it executed it's characters dealing with their trauma, didn't age well.

[@mihilist]

Miles had to deal with a lot of things, and portrayed it extremely well in multiple scenes. Colm Meaney knocked it out of the park with the struggles of dealing with war time enemies turned comrades, being imprisoned in his own mind for what he thought was a life time.

[@danceswithcomicbooks7733]

How didn't it age well?

[@bokmcdok]

@@mihilist Not DS9, but I always felt this episode was thematically linked to O'Brien's hatred of Cardassians. "It's not you I hate, Cardassian; I hate what I became because of you"

[@SirPinchaloaf]

He’s so hardcore. A proper soldier.