Star Trek: The Motion Picture • Original vs Director's Edition • Comparison

[@axelhopfinger533]

The added effects are nice, but i like the look and color grading of the 1979 version a lot better.

[@trekkiejunk]

Are you judging the color timing by this KZbin video, or did you actually watch the film on a properly-calibrated home theater setup? On my OLED, the color timing is fantastic. It is very different in this KZbin video.

[@pferreira1983]

@@trekkiejunk Curious to know why you're going through any negative comment to defend the DE? I'm not going down the comments any further but people are allowed to have this criticism, especially as other sources have confirmed about the colour timing.

[@thecianinator]

I think it's a bad conversion of the HDR version from the Blu-ray. It would probably look better in SDR.

[@Estes705]

The bridge looks so much darker in the 2022 release.

[@alexanderwalter2253]

Absolutely! The white balance is shifted towars blue which is not very pleasing to skin tones.

[@ryanbaker7404]

My goodness, those Enterprise refit model shots! That’s the closest thing to being in the room with the model! 😍

[@ghostofpambo6266]

Watched the new version at the theater the other night and absolutely loved it. So glad to finally see STTMP on the big screen.

[@Josh_Fredman]

It was so neat!!!

[@Daimo83]

God I hope they let William Shatner do a DC of 5 with as much CGI as he wants before he leaves. They owe it to the universe.

[@charlesajones77]

I liked it better when you never got a clear view of what V'Ger actually looked like. Made it seem more otherworldly. Now it just looks like yet another ship, just really big..

[@SnowDaulphin]

The relay station said the cloud was 2AUs in diameter…..we don’t know the actual size of the physical interior but it is clear that the size of Vger as it was revealed really shrank. As the Enterprise emerges from the disintegrated ship at the end it almost appears the Enterprise was a significant fraction of the size of Vger whereas the Earth is an infantesimal speck compared with a Dyson Sphere.

[@andreabindolini7452]

@@SnowDaulphin 2AU was the cloud. V'ger ship is rated somewhere between 78 and 100 km.

[@SnowDaulphin]

@@andreabindolini7452 That is the only explanation but it does not make any sense to have a cloud that large.

[@SnowDaulphin]

2AUs is 300M kilometers. Lets scale Vger’s ship down to Nomad who is 1.5 meters. My rough calculation is that such a ship about 1.5 meters tall would produce a cloud about 4500 kilometers. At any rate the producers of the revised version had to realize that the cloud unveiled itself in its approach to Earth else the better part of the Sun and not just the Earth would have been engulfed by the Cloud long before Vger reached Earth.

[@andreabindolini7452]

@@SnowDaulphin Is said that V'ger energy output is greater than those of the Sun. The Sun heliosphere is roughly 250 AU in diameter. So, even the original 82 AU measure for the V'ger Cloud make sense, if really you want talk about real physics in the context of a made-up show.

[@Wyrmwould]

I enjoyed watching the original version, but I think this is the one instance where the "special edition" treatment was actually necessary in order to complete the film. In the documentary, they explained that their philosophy for the project was to only do what could have been done in 1979, and that is why the new material doesn't really look too out of place. They also simply focused on completing the shots that had already been planned. They didn't add any kind of new goofiness or switch dialogue around (throwing shade at Uncle George there).

[@dr.nigelcool3771]

Saw director's cut in theater with 11 year old son. We both liked it. It's a good movie.

[@ram3973]

Why did they have to mess around with the color grading? The 1979 remastered print looks light years better than the updated 2022 clips. All except for the VFX.

[@fuzzywzhe]

Color grading depends on the lightbulb doing the read projection. You can change the color grading on MOST televisions if you want. It's rather arbitrary to a point.

[@tb3901]

One of the best sci-films that has aged very well. Several different themes of meaning reverie from Roddenberry and crew...

[@Bobalicious]

The 1979 cut certainly looks lighter and has a sharper image.

[@dannywebb8718]

Bob, I agree with you 100%

[@karlmortoniv2951]

Word is there wasn’t time to finalize the color when the movie was released for the first time so everything was a bit brighter than anybody wanted. I saw the 2022 version in a cinema this afternoon and it looks like they spent a lot of time using modern color grading tools. The bridge scenes seem to take place in the same universe as bridge scenes in the original show and in subsequent films, which was never the case before even though a lot of the same set pieces were reused for the next few films. I wondered if they gloomed it up a bit too much, but I’d like to think the guys in charge had discussed all this with Wise when they put together his director’s cut twenty years ago.

[@mosquerajoseph7305]

It doesn’t have a sharper image there’s just less stuff to be compressed into the smaller presentation of this video for each film. However it is lighter, which it wasn’t supposed to be but as another commenter mentioned wasn’t intended

[@Bobalicious]

@@mosquerajoseph7305 So, it isn't really sharper and lighter after all. Boy, was I fooled.

[@mosquerajoseph7305]

@@Bobalicious it’s lighter but it’s not really sharper

[@rburley204]

Glad that both versions are accessible to watch at any time.

[@sithsquid1]

I like the color and sharpness of the old 79 version more especially the interior scenes but the FX shots of V'ger and added exterior shots are a great improvement.

[@trekkiejunk]

The color timing in this KZbin video is not reflective of the actual film. I watched the actual film on my calibrated OLED tonight, and it looks a lot different. Frankly, the color timing was fantastic to me.

[@housecoatgaming]

_This_ is how you add things. You do not make them look so different they do not belong, you add what _belongs_ visually and clean up what NEEDED to be cleaned up.

[@bradavon]

Exactly. On the 2001 DVD they go into detail explaining how they only changed what was always planned. Not adding crap later like Lucas did.

[@Eudaimonist]

I don't see how this is much of an improvement.

[@philipbunney9445]

Saw the new Directors cut a few years ago at the cinema. Loved to added effects & extra scenes. To finally have a clear picture of the ship V’ger was built around was satisfying AF after all these years.

[@Fiveash-Art]

Showing it from a distance I think kind of blows the mystery and ominousness of it.. I liked how it's just an abstract alien landscape rather than just some weird looking ship. I don't think the changes add anything at all. They should've left it alone.

[@tompinkerton7101]

Some of the new stuff is interesting, and I'm glad Robert Wise got to be happier with it before he died. But, honestly, I still prefer the theatrical release. Even now, in 2024, I do not believe anything done in CGI can match the feeling of reality provided by physical models. And Doug Trumbull and John Dykstra were the absolute best in the business. And it's funny, the part of the original effects I always thought looked the worst -- the beam of energy intruding on the bridge -- wasn't changed at all. Also, I don't like all the extra sound effects they added. One of the unique things about the original was that sound effects were de-emphasized in many places and, instead, Jerry Goldsmith's masterful score carried many scenes. So, in summary, I think the director's edition is fine, but I still prefer the original.

[@cdst8888]

Just got the complete adventure set watching the 4K director's version now the updated effects are great! Jerry Goldsmith's fantastic score sounds even better too!

[@georgeharris9873]

Seeing all 3 versions in SUPER HIGH DEFINITION is great. Even seeing parts of the film LIVE looks superb. So glad i got this box set.

[@dubstepzsi]

Why is there high contast in the remastered?? the shadows seem more crushed. i'm a film colourist so am sensative to these things. Also there is a lot of hue changes which in places dont look right.

[@forestwells5820]

Like so many things, they're so busy trying to "fix" it they also I think damage it. I actually think Chekov saying "we're out of it" is a good way to put a bow on that moment, though I do agree with cutting out some of the bouncing after the wormhole is destroyed. Some of the new exterior shots are nice, though I can't help thinking that the "newness" of them take away from the sense of awe or "oh crap" the original offered. Like the orbs around Earth... it's just not as impressive somehow. I'm not sure why.

[@captainbryce1]

The Airtram passing the Golden Gate Bridge is an obvious huge improvement on the original, and so is the matte painting behind the lobby at Starfleet headquarters. But the actual Airtram landing looks better in the original. The Director’s edition actually looks more fake and completely CGI.

[@inkermoy]

yes there was a shadow from the pillar that grounded the shuttle to the scene in the original.

[@Eradicator-jv9xr]

But the v'ger scene is just a quadrillion times better than the original. Just look at it

[@guspaz]

I like that a lot of the VFX shots have been modified to improve context and continuity. Showing something approaching the ship from the outside instead of just a glowing ball on the viewscreen getting brighter, for example.

[@helenofirvine]

It seems like the 1979 version is sharper.

[@GTXDash]

They redid the color, added a denoising filter. But they over did it. The external shots' contrast levels are a little too saturated, while on the flip side, the live action footage is darker and less defined. Everything has a sort of dull teal tint to it. But I think the worst offence is that the denoiser is so strong it ended up softening the image way too much to the point that you really cannot tell the difference between a 4K and 1080p print. There are some shots that are just simply better in the original.

[@johnarcarese172]

@@GTXDash I always felt the original film was grainy, murky, and lacked detail. The restored 4K looks amazing. I wish that when vger evolved, the Klingon battleships were restored.

[@GTXDash]

@@johnarcarese172 Maybe the movie just simply looks better with HDR enabled or something.

[@johnarcarese172]

@@GTXDash maybe; I watched it on an oled and it looked amazing.

[@philipmcfarlane]

If they'd just left the original red alert alarm sound in the new 4K Directors cut it would have been so much better. The revised alarm sound for the Directors Cut of the film just drains so much of the tension away.

[@inkermoy]

or put in the original red alert siren from TOS. they still used it in TNG.

[@Josh_Fredman]

Strongly agree! The original alert klaxon from TMP is the best alarm Star Trek has ever had. The newer one is reminiscent of the TOS / TNG alarms but just does not carry the proper gravitas for this film.

[@AndrewChapman]

2:03 Hooray! I get it they had certain limitations during the original production. But I was often puzzled to how the Enterprise suddenly goes from flying horizontally past the V'Ger craft from above to suddenly descended and facing the front section of the V'Ger craft in about 5 seconds. Even in the 2001 release of the Director's Edition, which still used the old shot.

[@fuzzywzhe]

I knew Robert Wise was unhappy with the initial release because it was so rushed. I'm glad he got to re-release it, but it's also important to preserve the original release as well. If you can't see the theatrical release, you really can't experience what it was like to see initially.

[@bn23dave]

Correct! That is why the original version is still available to buy and watch. My edition of the DC even came with the original cut on a second disc. This is not Star Wars, where there hasn’t been an official way to watch the original trilogy in it‘s unaltered form for nearly 30 years now! Trek always gives you a choice. Want to watch TOS with it‘s original 1960‘s model effect shots? No problem, just buy the box set and you can choose. My 4K BluRay of ST6 gives me the choice between the cinema release and the slightly longer Director‘s Cut, and so does my BluRay-Release of ST2. They can do with those movies whatever they want, as long as I have a choice to go for my preferred version. If I want to watch the Star Wars OT in the version I remember from my childhood, I have to dig out my 30 year old THX-Edition VHS tapes or download one of those inofficial restored cuts from the legal grey areas of the internet. THAT sucks! Frack you, George! Frack you, Mickey Mouse!

[@fuzzywzhe]

@@bn23dave I used to be irritated that Lucas wouldn't release his original works, now I don't care. They aren't worth preserving anyhow. Star Wars is a dumb kids film honestly. THX-1138 is a VERY stereotypical 70's dystopian film. Who cares if they are completely lost in history?

[@ceejay960]

I just saw the 2022 version at the theater and I must say I was disappointed at the lack of clarity in many of the shots. After reading about all the work they did to the film, especially on exterior shots of the Enterprise, I expected it to be 4K sharp. When Scotty takes Kirk up to the Enterprise in the beginning and they work their way around to the front of the ship, I really expected it to look like new, but the whole scene was actually kind of fuzzy. Oh well.

[@alexpollock6932]

I saw it in theaters last night and I noticed that as well. I watched it on my tv last month, it’s a lot clearer.

[@bjmaly]

I reported a technical issue to F.E. as the image looked so terrible in the theater. I thought the remaster was supposed to make it look better.

[@middleearthmarxist]

Beautiful work. But because I'm a Trekkie... gotta say; third CGI stab at this and we still haven't fixed the fact the exterior air-tram hanger in no way matches its interior, gang? I mean, c'mon, team; AND especially with the added cut-out in the top right-corner! 😈🖖

[@daveinchina]

They ruined the ending on the new one. Check out the VGer ship as the energy expands into the universe, the ship (brief head on) looks like a cheap CGI, the version in 2000 looked better.

[@mrwittyone]

Some of the 1979 footage looks a lot better than the 2022 version.

[@swordblaster2596]

Oh movie refit Enterprise, how much do I love thee?

[@haggismcbaggis9485]

So from 0:23 to 0:27 Starfleet Headquarters changes location from the Presidio to Fort Point in between shots. The original also has better colour grading in the next scene of the landing bay and the pillars do not look as computer cartoonish.

[@haggismcbaggis9485]

And then at 0:24 it looks like the shuttle is actually flying between the cables of Golden Gate Bridge. I guess that could happen in the future.

[@haggismcbaggis9485]

No, I watched it in slow motion. It is barely flying over the suspension cables.

[@JoeyJoJoJoestarJuniorShabadoo]

@@haggismcbaggis9485 The perspective is all screwed up. From where it's flying over the cables it looks like the shuttle is as long as the width of the bridge. So the shuttle is huge or the Golden Gate is tiny in that shot.

[@leovalverde1508]

There are several lines of dialog and scenes that were added added, especially when Kirk first boards Enterprise. The original edition was notorious for its Spartan dialog. These few lines/scenes really deepen the story and character development.

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

I noticed a line was removed when I saw the 2022 edition. Uhura " It could hold a crew of hundreds of thousands. " Bones " Or a crew of 100 a thousand feet tall. "

[@richardthelionheart01]

@@TheMrPeteChannel The Bones line always reminded me of TOS the Animated Series!

[@darwinsaye]

Seriously?? In 90% of these scenes, the new version looks darker and has less definition…

[@douglasbriel6103]

As a kid, in the theater I recall the film being lighter as in the '79 footage. But I still want every bit of footage possible. Plus there are scenes in the novel not in the movie.

[@jasonblalock4429]

4:30 I like how the stone bridge really looks matted-in during this sequence. Some of the new shots are too CGI-looking, but this really feels like a shot that could have been done in the 70s. The extra sparkles when V'Ger evolved also looked very period-appropriate.

[@DavePrime1701]

I'm just glad they made the saucer less bulbous in the 2022 version, and it looks even worse when it's side by side with the new version. The newer one looks like the Enterprise.

[@peterp2153]

I feel like a better comparison would be the 2022 4K vs the 2001 Special Edition, just because in several cases, we’re seeing updated CGI enhancements of that Doecial Editiom, but comparing vs completely different shots from the theatrical cut.

[@FluffnCustard]

This video was originally going to a comparison between all three versions. However, the movies appeared too small so it was decided to just concentrate on the original and new one.

[@jct9099]

This newly enhanced CGI is this 2022 version is amazing! To be honest, I was a bit weirded out when I was this scene on 3:57. The original looks a bit weird that the whole patterns surrounded the whole starship, so I'm glad that changed that in the newer version. It's slick!

[@JimMilton]

And the new CGI is in 4K, not 1080p. This new cut looks amazing on an OLED.

[@RicktheCrofter]

I saw it in the theater when it first came out. I seem to recall there were some deleted scenes, with mr Spock, that were cut out of the original theatrical release; but were added back in subsequent video release. These deleted scenes added to the theme of the story. Added to Mr Spock’s development. And made it a better story.

[@BlueScarabGuy]

I'm gonna be the controversial one here and say the new effects look really solid. Seems like they really made an attempt to do something that'd hold up under 4K HDR scrutiny but that was faithful to the original art direction and style.

[@joshuariddensdale2126]

I actually kinda like the design of V'Ger launching those energy balls at Earth in the new 4K edition. It looks "Borg-ish", which makes sense considering that V'Ger was retconned to be an early iteration of the Borg (assimilating advanced technology, namely. And the "machine planet" was also retconned to be the Borg homeworld). In 1979, the technology and budget didn't allow for the design of V'Ger to be seen.

[@bearzilla2462]

@@joshuariddensdale2126 V'Ger was NEVER retconned to be related to the Borg in any way. That's pure fan-speculation and has been debunked by years of detailed history of the Borg in many series episodes after this movie.

[@daniskicker]

The original special effects were apparently rushed. Although I always thought they’ll poked incredible, the director wanted to go back and improve them. So he did. Then he died, and the remasters were phrased to 4K.

[@outpost31mac]

@@daniskicker They were 'rushed' because Douglas Trumbull and John Dykstra had an incredibly short time to pull them off. The number of VFX shots needed would've normally required a much longer amount of time to do, but because of a set in stone release date by Paramount coupled with the original effects company's incredibly slow output (I think I heard they only produced one or two usable shots over months?) Trumbull and Dykstra finished the work in about eight or nine months. You're right, they looked incredible but they weren't totally complete. Still, what they pulled off in the time they did was probably unheard of in the effects community.

[@Argumemnon]

They're growing on me after 2 viewings.

[@williamroberts5716]

I remember a TOS shuttle on the upper right at Starfleet HQ in an earlier edition. It looks like they moved it behind a newer shuttle?

[@barbarossarotbart]

One question: What are the differences between this director's editiona dnthe director's edition from 2001?

[@MREmusique]

image and sound have been remastered. the image quality is really impressive. in many scenes the colour balance has been changed, making everything a bit more vivid, particularly scenes inside V'Ger. I finished watching it last night (it's on Paramount+) and was blown away by how beautiful it is.

[@awatenor]

All violet blueish colors gone to cian tones... Wicky... And the V'Ger "road" looks better in the original.

[@timothycoleman2064]

They just keep doing everything they can to try and make this movie better

[@jfmezei]

Am ambivalent about the colour grading they did. In some shots, Kirk,s shirt is bright white while in 1979, it isn't while in others, the 2022 version puts a blue ting on hiw shirt while the original was white. Trying t colour uniforms changes the original movie instead of more faithfully reproducing what the camera saw in 1979.

[@MCPrimetime]

Saw this on Paramount plus. Was fun to see the new stuff.

[@heidiwilks5316]

Some of the weaker effects in the original (like the weirdly shaped saucer when they exit the ship) are definite improvements, while other "enhancements" were obviously rushed, sloppy and haphazard -- witness the appearance of people out of thin air at Starfleet HQ in the bottom left corner. But most disappointing of all to me is the darker, washed out filter they applied to the interior shots. It looks significantly worse than the original -- so much so that if one was shown only the interior shots I'd think the original was the remastered version.

[@LoveableNerd]

I literally thought they had accidentally switched the two when watching it. New interior shots are awful.

[@douglasbriel6103]

Weird how the two versions alternate at being better.

[@jrfury2659]

Why does the 1979 version have more clips and scenes that look more VIBRANT ?

[@Clay3613]

Color isn't reproduced accurately here on KZbin.

[@trekkiejunk]

Probably because the color timing of this KZbin video is off. I just watched the film on my OLED and it looks fantastic.

[@williamarthurfenton1496]

I wish they'd make up their bloody minds about colour grading. The original Trek from what I observe has generally had a pretty neutral palette so maybe that's the best choice (at least on the bridge of course). From what I can see here, but perhaps it's a problem of HDR convertion back to SDR on YT, it looks rather cold.

[@trekkiejunk]

I didn’t know that they had changed the color timing, and I hadn’t seen the theatrical version since the first bluray came out. But I noted when watching this that the color timing looked really good. So, if they changed it, I liked what they did. Oh, and I’m not talking about what you see in this KZbin video. I’m talking about watching it on my properly calibrated OLED.

[@williamarthurfenton1496]

@@trekkiejunk Yea, I've bought the UHD since writing my comment. Sometimes it looks a little cooler, but then it makes sense as often 70s film can look a bit reddish with things like white uniforms having a distinctly orangish hue. I would guess doing colour timing with computers is far easier for going through scene by scene and even shot by shot.

[@BESTVOFICIAL]

I remenber Paramount Home Entertainment released VHS version with other scenes like, Kirk leaving Enterprise to rescue Spok. I supost Paramount lost this version along time ago...

[@SeansModelBuilds]

Maybe they did, but I have that VHS Version at home.

[@logicplague]

That scene was cut because it was unfinished and shouldn't have even been in the original, you can see the whole set behind the "Enterprise" part.

[@trekkiejunk]

I just watched the 4K of the directors cut, and it included Kirk going out in the white spacesuit to rescue Spock. So not sure what you mean by it being cut.

[@jarrodm9299]

Honestly the 2011 Directors Edition on DVD is the best version of this movie. The 2022 version is a close second place.

[@Svante]

The shot, when V´ger fires the weapon, towards earth, looks much better in the original. And when they leave the Enterprice, it looks much worse now. I owned the old Director's Edition on DVD, and some of the new effects, blended better together (probably due to the much lower resolution), compared to this new version. They should have spent more time on this one. Some things looks pretty good, but others look like the work of amateurs. Sadly, this was probably the last chance, to create this version...

[@trekkiejunk]

The weapon shot at earth is about the only one I prefer in the 1979 original. Pretty much every other shot looks better on the 2022. Particularly that shot toward the end, that Mike from Red Letter Media called the “birthday cake” Enterprise.

[@inkermoy]

missed the Vulcan scene?

[@sulphurous2656]

4:03 If there's one objective improvement, it has to be this shot of the Enterprise saucer.

[@mythenmetzermewtufreund128]

Yes. That Was necesssary to change. The originial Version had a wrong Bulge, to high and steep than then on the Model. Also the shipname and Nummer are to high up and the writing is another compare to that what we saw before in the Film.

[@blacktronpavel]

Wow the 2022 version stepped it up even more since the last Director’s cut!

[@ObsessiveCostumingDude]

Excellent comparison, thank you very much for putting this together for everyone! :)

[@richardlevans]

They also changed the transporter accident scene, I heard.

[@tituslafrombois1164]

The robotic voice repeating "malfunction" was removed from the audio and Kirk saying "oh my god" immediately after was removed. I felt like I was going nuts watching the 4K for the first time because I distinctly remembered the "malfunction" voice haha

[@nordattack]

Huge thanks for this! The special effects are way better in the 2022 edition, however, the actual scenes of people on the bridge are horrible. Blurry, all pink and all the whites dull and just overall terrible. What the hell did they do to F it up like that?

[@spockboy]

I've noticed that it seems to be a trend that A LOT of color timing is shit in Blu-ray and 4K these days. I think that people are generally self centered and want to show off rather than be true to the film's intent. Always going for a "dramatic look" (too much blue/teal etc) even if the film doesn't warrant it. I know that women have slightly better color absorption then men do so perhaps we should get more women to do it. Maybe that will help?

[@nordattack]

@@spockboy Yep, the 4k of Willy Wonka was horrible. Glad they packaged it with the original blu-ray which is much superior.

[@cesarc.4230]

Did they also trim down the 20min Enterprise inspection scene? Or add some visuals to the opening overture in lieu of a blank screen?

[@orindae1032]

That remind me, I need to edit that scene down on my copy of the film so I don't have to fast forward it anymore.

[@damiannieman2870]

The Overture is awesome. A throwback to when movies were events like going to the theater. Was great seeing it in the theater in 79. QT did an overture to THE HATEFUL EIGHT if you saw the 70MM roadshow version in the theater as I did. Should be more of them and intermissions.

[@johnfeeney7755]

For the most part, I like the original more

[@Guilherme-vd5nz]

To be honest, 1979 effects it's pretty good as 2022. And much better than a lot of movies made by Disney last years . lol

[@travisrose9716]

Really enjoy the original effects more on this one Not enough remastering too amy creative decisions changed in the remaster

[@ulfingvar1]

Some of the changes are really.. strange.. I am glad they are offering the original cut, so we can have both.

[@TVSanFierro]

Just watched SLV ( with original effects ) on Bluray, for me that's the ultimate version 👌💯👌

[@johnalang]

You forgot the improved scenes from Vulcan

[@jean-mi1825]

I was about to say the same thing.

[@FluffnCustard]

There are many changes. Those shown were just a few of the more notable and interesting ones.

[@dragonskunkstudio7582]

Sometimes I have to look at which one is the new version as the director's edition seems to be off color grading wise.

[@Josh_Fredman]

I'd heard a lot of criticism about the color grading, but I got to see it in theaters a couple months ago and any doubts were put to rest. They knocked it out of the park! The Enterprise exterior visuals in particular are gorgeous.

[@dragonskunkstudio7582]

@@Josh_Fredman I guess that would be a better way to judge than my 400$ 55" screen.

[@SuperSirianRigel]

Now that I see the differences... I'm glad I have a copy of the original release on dvd. I don't like what they did really. Doesn't match with the original film hardly at all. lol. (Though the sort of explosion at the end kinda looked alright.)

[@scottptolomey3498]

I preferred the Theatrical Version more depth effects weren’t overdone and the cuts were poor in parts the Transporter malfunction edit was poorly timed and a few others

[@BiggusWeeabus]

Funny how both versions have their turn of looking better than the other

[@robertkees6048]

I remember seeing this as a young teen when it came out, and I remember thinking there was a real lack of joy or levity, or whimsical moments. There wasn't any real comradery between the crew that I recall. It was like the characters had no personality anymore and they'd forgotten what made the show so much fun in the first place. Where's the light hearted moments, the teamwork the whimsical music. Can a directors cut give the movie all those things? I doubt it.

[@Mac40581]

The '79 version has better color correction.

[@trekkiejunk]

Did you actually watch the 2022 film, or are you going by this video? I just watched the 4K on my properly-calibrated OLED, and the color timing looks nothing like it does in this video. In fact, while watching the movie, I was noting to myself how great the color was. Never judge color timing by a KZbin video!

[@AdhamOhm]

2:03 Enterprise goes drifting in the 2022 version.

[@AndrewChapman]

Sulu was adjusting parallel course to face the opening of the V'Ger ship as Kirk ordered. This was why the original always baffled me.

[@saricubra2867]

It's also called momentum.

[@X2Magneto]

Some of the changes as we get further on are terrible. It feels like I'm watching Star Wars Special Editions.

[@trekkiejunk]

I think that’s a REALLY unfair comparison. I’m sure you’re being hyperbolic, but I think the new effects all blended really well. I bet if you saw it for the first time, not knowing anything had changed from 1979, you would think it looks great.

[@X2Magneto]

@@trekkiejunk No, I'm being absolutely serious. The approach to the vger probe in the final act is hideous.

[@Wonderboywonderings]

@@X2Magneto that commenter is probably a studio SM operative or something. They're up and down this entire comment section disputing everyone with a legitimate criticism of the look of the DE. It's actually kind of absurd & pathetic. But, it is a KZbin comment section, after all. 🤣

[@kurtb8474]

Sure. You can fix anything with CGI. But, CGI was in it's infancy in 1979. What we saw was hours of work by prop specialists. Very real detailed models painstakingly constructed by experts in the business. And the models had to conform to the standards of film making. Colors, finishes, size, lighting and so many other considerations. I'll just bet you that, with the software available today, a 14-year-old with a laptop could create dazzling visuals for this film. And when these upgrades become old in another 40 years, will they be upgraded again? Or will the film be forgotten even after all of the effort put into remastering it?

[@logicplague]

Forty years later: We're Bad Rebooting The Motion Picture. Break out the lens flares!

[@trekkiejunk]

I think you mean “Bad Robotting.” Anyway, most of those original effects ARE still there. And more importantly, the theatrical edition still exists. It’s not being hidden like Lucas did. Both editions are available in bluray and 4K. So if you don’t like it, who cares? The original is still available.

[@tituslafrombois1164]

@@trekkiejunk not entirely true, the theatrical edition isn't available on 4K unless you shell out big bucks for the Complete Adventure box set or the 6-film collection box set, for whatever reason Paramount isn't selling the current print of the theatrical version on its own or included with the individual Directors Edition 4K release. You can still get the old theatrical blu-ray for pretty cheap though, but people have complained that one is denoised too much.

[@Grim2]

1:57 - Wait... why does the Enterprise turn like that now? 8I

[@bn23dave]

Because the Enterprise is actually flying around(!) V‘Ger, but you never got that impression before… In the original version the Enterprise suddenly changes direction between cuts. It seemed like they are flying aimlessly through the cloud instead of giving the impression that they are actually circling around the V‘Ger entity and that was a bit disorientating. All those times I‘ve watched the original cut (as well as the DVD director‘s cut where the Enterprise still does not turn) I never got the impression that they are going around it. That slight turn of the ship they added for the new version, instantly made it clear where the ship is going, for the whole effect sequence. A very small detail, that makes a big difference in the whole context of the sequence. It‘s not obvious when watching this comparison, as the rest of the sequence was not altered and does not show up in this comparison. Watch the whole (very long) scene in it‘s original and altered forms and You will see what I mean.

[@msh6865]

Actors skin tone and uniforms are better in the original. Also, the new version looks overall kinda dark.

[@georgeharris9873]

I just pre-ordered ''THE COMPLETE ADVENTURE'' box set that has all 3 versions of the film. The Theatrical cut, TV cut and Director's Edition cut. In my opinion, the TV cut is the best because it gave more storytelling to the film. But i''ll always like the theatrical cut cause just like ''STAR WARS part 4'', it is the version people got used to more.

[@Josh_Fredman]

I pre-ordered the box set too! So excited to see the TV version come to widescreen!

[@bradavon]

The TV Cut isn't Remastered though sadly and features Deleted Scenes. I've not seen it in context though, only as deleted scenes, as the TV cut never made it to DVD, Blu-ray and is only now in the expensive box set. I'd pick it up if it was available separately.

[@cdst8888]

They finally fixed the shot on the TV version that shows the wood set when kirk leaves to go after spock!

[@georgeharris9873]

@@cdst8888 Yeah i saw that. It looks much better. They also added the ''UN-FINISHED VERSION'' as a bonus feature so you can compare the two. I'm glad they did that.

[@joshuariddensdale2126]

I still have my 2002 copy of the Director's Edition, which features the theatrical cut, but has the scenes cut from the theatrical and the scenes added to the original 1983 TV airing as special features.

[@georgeharris9873]

I failed to mention that ''THE DIRECTOR'S EDITION'' has an ISOLATED SCORE feature.

[@dangiambrone7350]

I wish they would have made Kirk and co a lot smaller as they were walking over the bow, on the outside of the Enterprises hull. The front of the ship looks like it has 7 decks, yet the away team look like they are the height of 3 decks, which in turn makes the Enterprise look tiny.

[@Argumemnon]

The saucer has 2 decks in the wider parts. It's the reboot that increased the size of the ship.

[@SingleSpeed427]

1979 version for me... seems more "real" and moody. I generally think CGI ruins the authenticity of a movie though, so not surprised. Same with Star Wars.. I can't even watch the "remasterd" and newer movies (for the most part).

[@Jyve]

Outside the ship stuff? Fantastic. But what's with the sharpness on all the actors faces being reduced? The compression/something's smushing all the detail out of the picture. Not sure about ALL the colour changes either, the engine room change looks better, but everywhere else it seems un-needed.

[@trekkiejunk]

Don’t judge by the KZbin clip. I actually watched the 4K on my OLED, and the detail and color timing looks very different than this KZbin video. In fact, I just watched the film before checking out this video, and was thinking how good the color timing was.

[@Jyve]

@@trekkiejunk ah, that's great to know. Cheers

[@Omegaman1969]

@@Jyve Yes, whoever put this comparison together obviously has tried to make the new version look bad. The new version is way sharper.

[@marcus_ohreallyus]

This is the only Star Trek movie I haven't seen...and I have Paramount Plus. Gotta check this out finally.

[@frankschalk7790]

I think they changed the red alert klaxon too, right? I prefer the old but probably because of nostalgia

[@joshuariddensdale2126]

Yes. The red alert sound was changed for the Director's Cut, along with the voice-over was completely edited out. For example, you no longer hear it saying "negative control at helm" in the tractor beam sequence.

[@frankschalk7790]

@@joshuariddensdale2126 yes! You’re right! I don’t like these omissions. I love the harsh synthetic voices. So very late seventies

[@frankschalk7790]

@@joshuariddensdale2126 for all of the original series quaint awesomeness, the motion picture truly elevated to a more dramatic, gritty and realistic tone. The harsh synthetic voices, creepier vibe were all great changes to the aesthetic

[@steveb1972]

I remember years ago seeing it on tv. It had more the feel of a tv production and there were no audio or video effects on the bridge during the wormhole scene. Strange

[@DVDfeverGames]

Great vid. I understand there's now a better resolution for the Klingon cruiser early on in the film, but that's left out of this video?

[@hikikomicklori9290]

The only change I firmly believed had to be made was fixing the birthday cake enterprise when they were starting to walk to V'Ger. How that got through is anyone's guess.

[@Fiveash-Art]

I like the birthday cake Enterprise

[@SnipE_mS]

I really don't like that they made the bridge sound like the Star Trek V/VI bridge. they are completely different and have different feels.

[@onespark100]

That’s the part I love about it.

[@mentors]

So does the new, remastered theatrical cut retain the colors of the original release? I find that with a lot of these new 4k editions, they alter the colors far too much, leaving the film looking and feeling nothing like it did originally. There are now basically three options, the old blu-ray from I believe 2009, then a remastered in 4k theatrical cut from a year or two ago, and now this new director's cut, which I have no interest in, I just want the theatrical version, in as faithful a form as I can find it. I would also like the longer television version that was included with the limited edition box set, but it seems like Paramount decided to screw us here in the US, it was only released overseas as a normal blu-ray included with the set, so if you live here, and you're not set up for 4k yet, then you're out of luck being able to watch this version, and you're also out of luck if you try to get one from overseas now, even though they're region free, they're out of print now and scalpers are charging absurd prices as usual.

[@aaronspencer8841]

Are these versions both from the recent 4K release?

[@FluffnCustard]

They are the 1979 version in HD and the 2022 4K Director's Edition.

[@harvestercommander3250]

In my opinion the best part of the director’s cut is the audio.

[@DavidCotten-mv9di]

The color white is much more vibrant in the 1979 version.

[@bachdraft]

Nice video! But would want to see the improved (I hope) effects concerning the early ships that are "deleted" by V'ger.

[@StarTrooper]

I’d like to see the difference between the shorter DC cut and longer theatrical cut of the Klingon scene. I heard Director Robert Wise said he cut the scene down.

[@joshuariddensdale2126]

He did cut part of the scene out. Namely, the computer screen stating "Klingon Cruiser Amar continuing to attack". Another change was drastically reducing V'Ger from 82 AUs in diameter to only 2 AUs (the size is stated by Epsilon 9's commander during the briefing scene).

[@StarTrooper]

@@joshuariddensdale2126 I remember him stating that he didn't believe the Klingons would retreat. So he edited the scene and made it shorter. Any truth to that part?

[@Omegaman1969]

This is totally wrong, the new version is much sharper. Here is looks all out f focus compared to the original, when in fact it's the other way around.

[@john-lenin]

2:00

[@thunderblade8071]

Are these ALL differences? Not a lot I'd say, kind of expected more. I thought they had shortened scenes, extended others, but what is seen here are basically minimal updates to the original film.

[@FluffnCustard]

There are many changes in the director's edition. Scenes have also been removed and added. Those shown in this video are just a few notable changes that can be directly compared and contain more visual elements.

[@billthomas2652]

This barely scratches the surface. I'm doing the same project myself and I'm only up to the Vejur flyover. There were a TON of tweaks by Robert Wise in 2001. There are a few more now. This shows off the introduction of new FX but the biggest change in 2001 was the edit. And the biggest change in 2022 is the sound.

[@Phe0nix1986]

Great video thanks!

[@jean-mi1825]

You forgot the new Vulcan scenes and the first attack on the Enterprise.

[@johnkling6657]

So my question(s) - with the amount of stuff or data the V'ger has collected, why isn't V'ger bigger? Is V'ger like Mary Poppins' carpet bag or Hermione Grainger's purse?

[@kentcampbell122]

Because it’s a computer and stores that data in some kind of advanced, alien computer code. Considering how much information our modern day drives can hold, and the fact that V’ger is an absolutely massive “ship”, I think its size is appropriate.

[@Josh_Fredman]

V'GER is several miles long; I think it's the biggest space vehicle we've ever seen in Star Trek! It doesn't physically kidnap the things it collects; it just makes really good scans of them and stores them as computer data.

[@Mr_Kenneth]

Loved it. Cant wait gor 4k Bluray

[@Maddie-zv3gv77]

Thank you!!!

[@justmoritz]

Stuff is nice until 2:40ish. Wth. Who needed that. Destroyed the entire mystery and scale of vger

[@mcazares48]

I agree, I didn't like that scene. But everything else about the changes I absolutely love