Star Trek: TNG Review - 6x20 The Chase | Reverse Angle

[@charlesvan13]

A fun fact is when the Enterprise D crashed in Generations, Picard is shown digging through the rubble to find his photo album. He picks up this "priceless artifact" and just throws it away.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

He had it appraised, it had a price, and it wasnt right.

[@shodan7777]

The tng movies are shockingly bad with the exception of first contact.

[@mikeluit3027]

Ahh great point! They did address this though in Picard (new series), probably writers got wind of this. I pulled this off from the internet. "only to be left behind in the rubble after the USS Enterprise-D has crash-landed on Veridian III. (We may assume that the latter is just a replica.) The artifact will eventually be stored in Picard's quantum archives, as seen in PIC: "Remembrance"."

[@charlesvan13]

@@shodan7777 The writers of those movies didn't even watch the shows. Their whole motive in Insurrection contradicted the show.

[@MasterFhyl]

@@charlesvan13 The same could be said for the writers of ST:P

[@MichaelApproved]

1:10 “On a ship that’s perpetually on the verge of exploding”… that actually happened in the movie Generations and they referenced this artifact. At the end Picard went through the rubble, found the artifact, and tossed it aside because he was looking for his family album. They did that to show just how much he valued his family after the ordeal of the movie. Such an important artifact was of little interest to Picard because it wasn’t as important to him as a seemingly simple family album. Maybe simple isn’t the best way to describe the album. After all, it did have glitter outlines around the photos.

[@mikeluit3027]

What no stars?!?!?!?!?

[@MichaelApproved]

Here’s the video where he picks it up and tosses it aside. It happens at the 12 second mark kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3m2iWybZrmUmqM

[@TalkernateHistory]

It was also fireproof. Too bad the people in the album weren't fireproof as well

[@themount6549]

​@@TalkernateHistory Damn it, that's a savage burn

[@DIEGhostfish]

Or they just didn't know what it was.

[@briandiltsmusic]

Galen is played by Norman Lloyd who only recently passed away at the age of 106. I remembered him from Dead Poets Society and I think he was in a couple Hitchcock films.

[@saturn580]

I love how Data was casually browsing Prawnhub while humoring the Klingon captain. 🤣

[@jakeschutz6342]

This one needed to be developed into a feature length script or at least a two parter. The themes explored are pretty cosmic and epic (basically how humanoid life was seeded in the galaxy, doesn't get much larger than that in terms of cosmic questions of importance). I don' t think an hour does the nature of the material justice. The Romulan contacting Picard makes perfect sense when you analyse the scene from the context of the history of relations between the two races. I am sure there are many Romulans in the Empire who tire of constant threats of war with humanity (we sort of see that mindset even with Toreth in Face of the Enemy). I think this Romulan represented that war-weary Romulan solider and again the script if developed into a two-parter or feature could have explored this thread much more thoroughly.

[@ThePeacemaker848]

Ya with such a big reveal to the universe, this would have made a great movie with that Indiana jones feel to it.

[@mikeoyler2983]

I always thought that this was supposed to be foreshadowing of the Founders. The make up design is nearly identical and the whole concept would fit into their nefarious plans to control the Alpha Quadrant, by having a bunch of species and races that don't get along and can be manipulated. Anyway, it could have been a good two parter as this was simultaneously the first season of DS9.

[@bazingamycheeks]

The Cardassian Captain is played by Linda Thorson, who also played Tara King in the English 1960s "The Avengers", along side Patrick Macnee, and his wife at the time (60s) was in "For The World is Hollow and I Have Touched The Sky"

[@timmiller1954]

I think you guys are so funny. I love your sense of humor and the fact that you don't speed narrate with a high-pitched tone of voice like so many other KZbin channels. I often find myself laughing at the same time, which is saying a lot because I'm extremely depressed and usually NEVER laugh about anything.

[@Rossstewart88]

Hope your doing a bit better and Merry Christmas!

[@benjamindeh873]

The reason they went for the Romulans giving a message of hope at the end was because they are the biggest threat in TNG. The Cardassians and Klingon are way more friendly towards the federation than the Romulans ...But yeah, if they wanted to do that it would have been nice if they included the romulans earlier in to the episode. Tho I agree more with a B- than a C

[@ShamrockParticle]

Maurice Roves was in a Doctor Who story circa 1984. Linda Thorson was one of The Avengers. The episode has so many actors sleeping while delivering their lines, probably having listened to the ill-fitting incidental muzak soundtrack... Roves and Thorson excepted. A shame the Romulan wasn't Admiral Itsafake from DS9... For season 6 standards: B- For TNG as a whole: D. So many season 1 episodes do more with lesser ideas.

[@sneakyking]

So anyway we found our literal creator race and the fact they had a plan for us....back to ignoring that.

[@420dretone]

Well we see eventually in discovery that has changed

[@Fidi987]

Also, the creator race had no hair and most of the descendant races did.

[@sneakyking]

@@Fidi987 ah Picard and I are close to the creator race then.

[@andrewblanchard2398]

​@@420dretone KURTZMAN DREK ISN'T CANON & DISCOVERY SUCKS

[@420dretone]

@@andrewblanchard2398 discovery is the best finally a Star Trek that is science driven

[@NeoTechni]

Fun fact: That artifact gets thrown around in the first movie, including by Picard himself. Though it is later shown to have survived in the series Picard which is unfortunate cause that means it gets to be in the series Picard

[@skyserf]

9:44 Beverly is showcasing more of the subtlety skills she displayed in that scene on Starship Mine when she was using the tech from Geordi’s visor to make that sonic blast.

[@VotePaineJefferson]

The alien at the end reminded me of the ShapeChangers in DS9. Seems like that could even be the same actress who played the main villain....

[@skyserf]

10:02 The changeling that later killed billions.

[@ogto]

is it finally time? have the algorithm gods finally chosen this channel for blessing? can't wait for it to blow up so i can be the hipster that remembers the old intro music.

[@robbiemcdonnell8482]

Same😆

[@cheradenine1980]

This was one of my favourite episodes growing up, and had a lasting impact on my interest in ancient astronaut theory The discovery would be the single most profoundly important thing that has ever happened to any of those races; and they did just shuffle off The concept could have been an amazing two parter

[@jmuk3571]

Gailen is the name Picard used in the episode Gambit

[@THall-vi8cp]

I think what bothered me most about the episode was that when the Romulan captain contacted Picard at the end, Picard was very cold toward him. The Romulan got the message, but Picard just shrugged him off.

[@flowertrue]

This episode kind of puts a cap in a recurring theme from TOS, although it's only referenced obliquely. A number of TOS episodes raised the question of why so many species resembled humans, including ancient Romans and native Americans. And somehow the Amazonian tribes in Voyager tie in. They speculated that an ancient race called The Preservers had seeded the primordial oceans of various worlds.

[@roberthelme8000]

I love this one. A. Very Trek to point what the different species have in common. The. Klingon Captain was awesome and made the ep that much more enjoyable.

[@jimslancio]

In "All Good Things," Q takes Picard to primordial Earth, and they watch a puddle of liquid where life didn't form because of the anti-time anomaly. Q could've referenced this episode by saying that the ancient humanoid would've seeded DNA into this puddle, but the anti-time anomaly also eliminated their existence.

[@TheTogoRojo]

Nooooooooooo! I need more lol. Great playlist. Im off to watch the rest of your channel now!

[@jadenova]

Imagine if Picard didn't get stabbed in the heart he could have been an archaeologist.

[@xellestar]

Nu'Daq might be my fave ever klingon. "You incompetent topah!!" 🤣

[@ak74udieby]

The race makes so much more sense than the chase

[@BrobjeV]

I'm surprised you gave this episode such high ratings, I hated it more than I hated the last episode of season 2. This episode was a mess. Can't wait for the next review, I really liked The Frame of Mind.

[@qam2024]

I could have sworn this was a 2 partner. Mandela effect?

[@norrinzelkarr8572]

Also, it's kinda ridiculous how Galen is portrayed as doing archaeology one second and paleomicrobiology (!!!!) the next. Uhhhhh how many PhDs does Dr. Dr. Dr. Professor Galen have?

[@charlesvan13]

So there are alien races which have human physiology except for bumpy foreheads or pointed ears, and it's a surprise that they're related to humans?

[@edip1068]

Hi! My son had Autism and is always excited about your new TNG uploads...we hear about it all week and the first thing he does when he wakes up on Monday is check you tube to see if new episode has dropped. It seems that lately your procedure has changed. He is very disappointed that it didn't come out this week. I am prepared to let him become a patreon but it doesn't appear that it's available there either. If you could please let me know if you are taking a break from TNG or changing how often you post so that I can explain it to him and get a little peace, that would be lovely. Thank you for your time.

[@reverseangle]

We don't have a set schedule, we get them up whenever we have a chance to work on them.

[@edip1068]

@@reverseangle Thank you for getting back to me, I appreciate it.

[@reverseangle]

Just a heads up, we also take a break between TNG seasons.

[@edip1068]

@@reverseangle Oh that is So good to know! Thank you!!

[@HopeAndrea_HFG]

The irony of Creator turned Madame Changeling coming back to destroy all solids is not lost on me😆.

[@charlesvan13]

At least we're not related to the Ferengi or Pakleds.

[@thewewguy8t88]

A Q orgin story sounds kind of awesome lol.

[@Raziel236]

Galen, nice callforward to the episode where he pretends to be an Archaeologist on the mercenary ship.

[@Deverosfear]

I always thought that the uridians sold the info to the cardasians and Klingons claiming it was whatever they thought was more valuable, also I thought the Romulan bit at the end was just meant to be subterfuge just in case they met in the future “oh we met before and I was the only one who was nice to you” kind of thing.

[@matthewhannigan4666]

"The twial never ends," from lower-case q gave me a laugh. 9:33

[@reaverofjillsandwiches]

Gee hope this rare priceless artifact won't get dmaaged in the first tng film. Ohh wait...

[@nin6246]

I love this episode. I remember having so much fun watching it for the first time.

[@donovanulrich348]

Why does no one realize these are the founders 😂😂🤦‍♂️ They started off living before life, and probably had a calamity. Then they reunited and tried exploring the galaxy only to find the solids didnt trust them So they made 2 races their guards and started calling them self the founders, and ruled the Dominion

[@tristan2332]

One of your voices is very similar to the channel Horror Strories. Good channel, fun watching your takes.

[@navyreviewer]

Aaand nobody has asked the guardian of forever about this? Remember him? The.... thing that opened with "a question. Scene before your star burned hot in space and before your race was born i have awaited a question."

[@samarat1]

Great job guys

[@tmage23]

This episode is one of my favorite TNG episodes but it also highlights a glaring weakness of TNG in the days of episodic storytelling. The conclusion should have had significant repercussions throughout the populations of the "seeded races" but it was never mentioned again.

[@HopeAndrea_HFG]

I agree, this conclusion should’ve meant so much more

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

This video stutters periodically. It's most obvious at 8:22 when the disruptor beam freezes but it occurs throughout the video. I'm a little surprised at the relatively high rating. It was around this episode when I became conscious that TNG was running out of gas, and I remember there being some surprise that it was renewed for a seventh season. I didn't know at the time how creatively split the braintrust was between continuing TNG, launching and maintaining DS9, developing Voyager, and and planning the movies, but the magic started to wear off a bit with TNG, even more so next season. That said, I like the next one, "Frame of Mind", and "Timescape" a few episodes later, both of which are Brannon Braga creations. But the rest, especially the finale, which feels like it was written as they were filming it, have the same running out of gas feeling.

[@RunToEternity]

12:52 Nobody messes with Picard's mentor, the Uridians should happy that only one ship got destroyed. Lest Picard go on a Uridian hunting rampage.

[@josephyoung6749]

one of my favorite episodes

[@charlesgoetschius2138]

you guys do great job--nice work--3 thumbs up

[@andrewmalone9143]

I interpreted the Eurideans to be middle men for one of other ships searching for the code. Eurideans are hired to attack Galen because then it’s harder to accuse the paying species of attacking and murdering Galen

[@kantharos]

Oh no, they really picked this up for Disco V.

[@DavidWsTrainVideos]

14:00 Morse code? 😂

[@Elnis888]

Hehehe ;-) Well, since you asked: I make out the word "TIGTIN" in morse code. Could be a lot of other letters/numbers, but this is the most wordy word I could make out of it.

[@CoachatCole]

They addressed the iridian ship exploding in the episode. Also, no one is going to mention if Dr. Chris her spent the night with Picard in the final scene?

[@halfsourlizard9319]

Also, I can't be the only one who wanted the 4-billion-year-old biscuit recipe ...

[@snugglenuts]

This episode, could, and maybe should, have been the series finale.

[@LordTalax]

Nice to see a female Cardassian Gul too. I don't think we ever see that again in Star Trek.

[@andrewblanchard2398]

10:12 so did RIKER 😂

[@Greatermaxim]

You can say this episode failed to cut to the chase.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

a.k.a., that time when TNG *literally* went all Ancient Aliens ... and the writers reveal quite dramatically that they have zero idea what an algorithm is.

[@Mehwhatevr]

you said single minded, but I think you meant 1-dimensional 😂 . But seriously, you're right. the different races of beings in Star trek are so...stereotypical and non-complex. at least the Klingons and the Ferengi. Like the Klingons are aggressive and love fighting and that pretty much sums them up. You can pretty much predict anything they'll say or do.

[@shawnfisher7434]

This should have been a two part episode. As it is, they condensed it so much that it makes little sense why the Cardassians and Klingons and later the Romulans are so interested in this discovery. There wasn't enough build-up, it was all about getting to the conclusion as quickly as possible. Then the discovery is just....forgotten. Everyone shrugs it off as false and it's never brought up again. We saw this happen again in S7 with the 'Warp drive is destroying sub-space' episode, but at least they had throw away lines about having permission to exceed Warp speed limits for the duration of the mission. This is a huge idea, but it's kind of shrugged off as false-canon and never mentioned again. It's TNG's version of Star Trek V. I agree with the C grade, this is the definition of a middling, mediocre episode. We're getting close to S7, so it's only downhill from here. There are maybe 3 or 4 good episodes left.

[@HopeAndrea_HFG]

I agree with those points about them needing a more fleshed out 2-part ep to do this storyline justice

[@Krathify]

I like it was the Romulans, they are supposed to be the intellectual equals of the federation.

[@mikeluit3027]

Great review again guys! Excellent points. I gave this one a B. Bumped the grade up 1/2 notch because I liked the overall episode and storyline.

[@wristdisabledwriter2893]

It also means we’re from changlings

[@sabin97]

at least humans and klingons are literally the same species. a species is a group of organisms where any two random fertile individuals can produce fertile offspring. we are shown at least 2 half-human half-klingon females who are fertile. torres has a baby with a human. worf's mate(i always forget her name) has a baby with worf(who is a klingon). and there's a minor character in one tng episode who is like 1/4th romulan, so that means one of his parents is 1/2 romulan, and thus romulans and humans can interbreed and have fertile offspring. and since romulans are just an offshoot of vulcans we can assume vulcans and humans are also the same species. in ds9 gul dukat has 2 different children with bajoran mothers. we never see either child have a chance to reproduce, so it's still not confirmed if bajorans and cardassians are the same species of if the kids are just hybrids, like a mule. in a tng episode a cardassian engineer told obrien she could give him offspring, so i'm assuming that means cardassians and humans CAN reproduce......so they might also be the same species if their offspring is fertile. i'm not aware of any half ferengui.....

[@samarat1]

Come up something that should shape all relations between species for years too come. Then never discuss it again

[@Convoy00X]

Really looking forward to your next video. Do you guys have any way of interacting with others outside of KZbin comments?

[@macmcleod1188]

"But slyly says...." 🤣😅😀😂🤣😂😀🤣 Good one. Made my day. I laughed out loud multiple times at this review. The snarkiness comes across as affectionate rather than smug. I give your review an A- .

[@riverAmazonNZ]

klingon guile!

[@jadenova]

6:26 It's an ad for Ovaltine.

[@praetorprime]

q: The twial never ends 🤣 Stop giving them ideas though, really.

[@richardchristie3203]

I heard the physicist Carl Sagan, had something to do with this episode

[@Outlier777]

It would have been funnier and more true to life if they all started blasting each other after that weird alien fraud delivered her message.

[@DerekBurns-qe1xo]

I THOUGHT IT WAS SIDIOUS

[@lazm3518]

Lost it at 9:35 ... Lowercase q !!!

[@ZombieRyushu]

Its the female founder from the Dominion.

[@legehenne_MusicLabel]

Bev is not a shitty Doctor. Sometimes she does not kill her patients. That must count for something, no? 😪

[@Thathumanoverthere1701]

Always a pick me up of humorous episode review

[@mr.a8315]

Lower case q. 😅❤

[@Mehwhatevr]

The wiki seems to say that we don’t know if the cardassians Klingons etc were also seeded. We can guess that they might be, but we don’t know. Maybe they were right to shrug it off if only humans are truly descended.

[@adamfistler465]

There's episodes that are pointless and then there are episodes that are pointless. This one is a bunch of running around to a pointless ending.

[@forestgreenhobbit]

Why did you waste your time and ours?

[@Katka1979]

One of my fav episodes.