Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith movie review

[@joshpeck904]

Favorite from each trilogy, Prequel: Revenge of the Sith Original: Empire Strikes Back Sequel: Force Awakens

[@stephenevans6961]

Spin offs: rogue one

[@funtimes6406]

Am I the only person in the world who liked solo

[@adamfurey7320]

Tros is way better then tfa

[@platshaps5972]

@@adamfurey7320 The rise of skywalker have way more plotholes than the force awakens though

[@adamfurey7320]

BlackLies_HD yes but tfa played it safe and copied anh while tros was og without being bad like the last Jedi imo it was the only sequel that I really liked

[@tonyarevalo8175]

Episode III was and is still my favourite.

[@Yeagerbonebone]

Revenge of the Sith is amazing

[@hdis0wksispnsns8eiwb9skwnw5]

Tony Arevalo 8/10 but when compared to originals 6/10

[@thecosmicpallbearer]

I'm not ashamed to make it my favorite

[@PabloTheGreat1]

Absolutely agree

[@HyperTrent]

I see you are a man of culture as well

[@jordanhughes7291]

But that was the point of the prequels right??? The Jedi were corrupt and were not pure anymore. So of course they failed all the test

[@bellcross9985]

It would have been so great to see that part of the story. To see how the Jedi were arrogant and started to believe they were the best, which would lead them to their own destruction. it should have started with a civil war on Naboo in the TPM , where the Jedi failed to act in time to prevent the war. Then with Anakins training, where he saw the Jedi's dogma stiff and unyielding, contradiction teachings and where he has to conceal the relationship with Padme. And then in ROS we see a desolated Anakin fighting an endless war which has effected the galaxy, his mothers death and the temptation of the dark side.

[@KitchenSinkSoup]

Bellcross The entire prequel trilogy is about arrogant Jedi. Mace Windu for one along with the Jedi Council not believing the Siths return or trying O seize power at the end.

[@Marcelosouza811]

Agreed, Jeremy said that all of them failed, but that is exactly what it supposed to be, Jedi falling! :D

[@Marcelosouza811]

Ps: The Jedi all failed to see how troubled Anakin was

[@thibaldus3]

I think Jeremy is biased like a lot of reviewers of his generation (like RLM/Plinkett) because they idealize the originals and bash the prequels without even making the effort of paying a minimum of attention to it. I can paint any movie as something that 'sucks' if I put my mind to the task.

[@chicanotings5909]

Obi Wan: Its over Anakin. I have the high ground. Anakin: Its not what Maul said. Obi Wan: Fuck (Anakin jumps behind Obi Wan and slices him in half)

[@ShinSuperSaiyajin]

Obi Wan is the Master of the ground. He clearly didn't teach Anakin how to master the ground LOL

[@obitwokenobi9808]

Fun fact: this actually happened in the ROTS video game alternate ending.

[@AntoineBandele]

Technically within the movie Anakin does kill one Jedi Master on screen: Cin Drallig. One handed, no less.

[@elitekjms]

When?

[@JJ-eg4zm]

When they are watching the archive footage

[@HyraxusPrimus]

And while choking Drallig's apprentice at the same time.

[@AntoineBandele]

elitekjms What +Henry he and +Andy Howard said.

[@matthewsands1572]

Antoine Bandele and that was all we got to see of the attack on the Jedi temple, a tiny and brief piece of security footage of him fighting two jedi (did we even see him kill him, I only remember a couple of brief sabre clashes). Just one of many disappointments with ROTS was we didn't even get to see the Jedi fighting clones in the temple. When Anakin and the Clones march to the temple I thought we were about to see some epic battle in the temple, but nope cuts to a different scene and we get to none of what could have been an epic battle

[@AlasdairGR]

Jeremy's impersonation scenes are the best 😂😂

[@andresvalenzuela160]

WolfsbaneFilms 5:47 😂

[@Raine_1037]

You're not a jedi yet ok, you cant lecture me

[@rc59191]

His Matthew McConaughey impression is spot on lol.

[@jessebelly5910]

Anakin did kill a jedi master = Count Dooku

[@eavesDropSound]

Jesse Belly Good point.

[@jessebelly5910]

colebowlin68 That's true

[@kinglink9541]

+colebowlin68 Obi Wan.

[@kinglink9541]

colebowlin68 All those Jedi he killed when raiding the Jedi temple. He didn't just kill younglings. He killed Masters, Knights, and Padawans. The youngling scene was just there to show how far gone he truly was.

[@kinglink9541]

colebowlin68 He went into the Jedi temple to kill Jedi. There is no reason to believe he only killed younglings while leaving the Jedi masters to the clones.

[@skateboards7042]

this is the only prequel i liked

[@pauliewalnuts2072]

Me to

[@jellybeanjames4106]

QuaytGang that movie was terrible

[@jellybeanjames4106]

First off the love story is too in your face in that movie second there was way too much cgi to the point it was laughable thirdly anakin was a little punk in that movie I could go on and on

[@jellybeanjames4106]

QuaytGang that is your right

[@jellybeanjames4106]

I just prefer star wars episode 6

[@1966Zodiac]

Wrong!!!!! Anakin killed a lot of Jedi' s in the temple. However, they only show it in the camera footage.

[@flyingeagle3547]

+SiLvr_BuLLeTz I just assumed they were implying he went to the temple to kill everyone, not just kids. I just assumed they showed the kids in order to say how fucked up he became. I assumed this, because not everything has to be shown. Again, I just assumed it was implied.

[@willl676]

+SiLvr_BuLLeTz Did you even watch the fucking movie? Anakin went in with the entire 501st Clone Legion to slaughter the Jedi Temple, there were plenty of Jedi to be killed there. EDIT: Dismiss this comment. Bad interpretation is bad interpretation.

[@KSRugby]

+1966Zodiac he killed children. The prequels trilogy isnt the tragic fall of a hero and great jedi, its the story of how a stupid whiney brat becomes a child murdering physcopath! Thats it!

[@GermanLeftist]

+1966Zodiac Yes, but not every Jedi knight is a Jedi master. All masters were away on missions and the rest went to arrest Palpetine, who killed them. Anakin never killed anyone high up on the ladder, who could have been considered his equal in terms of use of the force or lightsaber.

[@linkenski]

+ASobsessive ...if you have to put it so tactlessly. It's more nuanced than that. Anakin turns because he loves Padme, and believes 100% in his visions, and he fears them, especially because those of his mom became true, so he's willing to doubt his own judgement of Palpatine as the sith lord and undergo his training to save Padme, not realizing he's being corrupted every step of the way. You can even ask yourself, since Palpatine had his eyes on Anakin since early on, if it could've been one of his tricks to give Anakin visions of losing Padme. When Anakin kills the younglings, he's become clouded in his vision because of how far he's gone and because Palpatine probably has some kind of dark-side prescence that makes it worse for Anakin.

[@leftyjoness]

Not gonna lie... Episode 3 is my favorite Star Wars to watch. Sure, there's a lot of terrible dialogue and cheesy moments, but it's such a fun ride from the opening space battle to the climactic finale between Obi-Wan and Anakin. Be gentle, please.

[@nathanbreen5535]

Same

[@gabrielp9646]

Its boring AF.

[@vanity1602]

@@gabrielp9646 ....your opinion

[@joker18524]

There’s a lot of terrible dialogue and cheesy moments in every Star Wars film.

[@SardonicJosh]

@@joker18524 ya. For example: In ANH: Ben Kenobi literally says, "only a master of evil, DARTH."

[@BrianDePalmaII]

My best friend prefers the prequals over the sequals and,and,and I was like "no...get a new best friend"

[@KylePhantomK94]

Gresh854 That just makes you a terrible friend for not respecting your friend's opinion.

[@sirrparker47]

Kyle Phantom He has every right to get a new best friend. Something is wrong with the old one

[@sirrparker47]

Kyle Phantom You have no sense of sarcasm or humor it seems

[@KylePhantomK94]

The Arkham Knight Well its not really something to "joke" about.

[@KylePhantomK94]

Matt Lewis WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO GET AT?

[@richardmoran5394]

anakins descent to the dark side began when schmi died, when he murders all those sand people. his switch was, in no way, quick

[@LO-zs3db]

Bullshit.

[@joseph39457]

exactly

[@BetterThanYou96]

Richard Moran Then why the hell was that never touched upon in revenge of the sith? Maybe a little flashback would've helped for ffs?

[@NoahFilmsSM]

Richard Moran yea if schmi doesn't die anakin never turns to the dark side

[@aboone481]

Nishant Thapa it was touched on. When anakin kills count dooku (which is another example of him falling towards the darkside) you can hear the raiders scream. Its subtle but there

[@Alex-ji6ob]

Favorite film: Return of the Jedi: Favorite novel: Darth Plagueis Favorite comic: Omnibus Clone Wars volume 3, mainly the stories revolving Anakin and Obi-wan together Favorite game: Battlefront 2

[@totallyalexanderhamilton3714]

You must like Star Wars. Me too. My favorite games are Battlefront (I love all of them) and KOTOR. And my favorite films were Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. 😊

[@Alex-ji6ob]

MarsMac'n Gaming You bet I like Star Wars. And it's cool to see we have some ideas in common.

[@rolandrice3692]

How do you feel about how George chose to include ewoks instead of Wookies..

[@rolandrice3692]

I respect your decision just wanna know, also check out republic commando, one of my favorites

[@Alex-ji6ob]

Roland Rice I would rather have Wookiees than Ewoks, but I'm not mad Ewoks exist.

[@Spineshot25]

I know this isn't a popular opinion... But 1. Empire Strikes Back 2. Revenge of the Sith 3. New Hope 4. Return of the Jedi 5. Phantom Menace (just cuz Maul) 6. Attack of the Clones

[@CanYouFoush]

Same

[@basslightyeah]

Agreed. Well, Revenge of the Sith and Star Wars (or call it a New Hope) is equal.

[@ChristianDiaz-dy9yh]

actually the same (exept with phantom menace and attack of the clones)

[@ThePunisherSpider]

+Spineshot25 I like Revenge better than New Hope too, actually some critics (back when RotS came out) called it better than the original Star Wars, although for me maybe New Hope is a better movie. I do enjoy Sith more than Return of the Jedi though.

[@Tonymarshall11]

That's a pretty solid list. Don't see why people are so nitpicky and don't want to face the fact Sith is better than at least Jedi

[@MrMattBergman]

I actually love the prequels because of what they've done to the Star Wars fan base. Like it or hate it, we all talk about it and are willing to passionately defend the trilogy. That, AND without the prequels, we wouldn't have gotten all of the really cool cities, worlds, and mythology. The OT were better films, but there wasn't as much world building at the prequels had. This world building basically opened up the gates for a whole slew of mythos. Case and point, without the prequels, the Old Republic series wouldn't have existed. Thoughts?

[@themadmattster9647]

+Matthew Bergman I liked Sith but didn't like the other two all that much..I've kinda recently returned to fandom and have been checking out Expanded Universe, realizing that just as much as Walking Dead "remixes" the original comic with the series, Force Awakens "borrows" and "remixes" EU elements! I still enjoyed the film though, but think someone might have a case...I think what you said kind of ties into what Lucas had to say (before backtracking) about Force Awakens. He had kind of given carte blanche to others going with his vision and adding to it for the expanded universe, as long as he had the control over the prequels (even if they actually included some EU stuff)..with Force Awakens they threw all that away, and in a way in retrospect the fact he allowed all the freedom with the EU, despite his flaws doing the prequels, make me have a newfound respect for him

[@vinceaskins9372]

You are completely right

[@chatochafa130]

I love all Star Wars movies. The new ones Episode 7 and 8 were okay. I was definitely into them new movies for a scene or two but they felt too Disney. I don't mean "magical/girly" Disney, I mean the Disney that made Marvel movies full of non intense scenes that have too much going on. The old Star Wars movies from the 70's to 00's had the enjoyable action and a story you can reflect on.

[@gabrielp9646]

@Matthew Bergman I still think a watchable movie would´ve been better, tho... xDxD

[@joeandrew8752]

@@chatochafa130 7 and 8 barely add anything to the universe. I've no idea what unique and interesting stories they can add with the path they created. They will probably have to backpeddle. The world building is inconsistent and boring often, probably the only decently realized character is kylo ren. The did Poe and Fin poorly since fin is basically a comic relief when he shouldn't be and Poe has barely anything remarkable about him, he is as deep as anyone from rogue one but he has 2 movies under his belt. I just wish those movies were better.

[@maxxfatal]

Jeremy: Anakin's turn to the dark side is the most sudden shift..... GoT writers: Challenge accepted!

[@Godid15116]

Underrated comment

[@drewwhitney7327]

I bought Anakin’s turn to evil. I did not buy Khaleesi’s turn out of the blue. Nobody did. The prequels set up Anakin’s turn over the course of Episode 2 and most of Episode 3. GoT had 100 hours and no set up to the queen’s turn in the second to last episode. Baffling.

[@silentgrind34]

Lmsooo

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@drewwhitney7327 TLOU 2:

[@memecliparchives2254]

@@drewwhitney7327 Nah I think the Clone Wars did add that much better because of Ashoka. And granted yeah, Anakin lost a lot ik the prequels and has been through much. But it was Ashoka's leaving AND the Jedi poorly handling it was just somewhat their domino to Anakin's fall and Padme was just the final one.

[@BigBadMadDog.]

1. Empire Srikes Back 2. A New Hope 3. Return of the Jedi 4. Revenge of the Sith 5. Attack of the Clones 6. Phantom Menace

[@spazbot97]

1.Empire Strikes Back 2. A New Hope 3.Revenge of the Sith 4. Return of the Jedi 5. The clone wars 6. Phantom menace

[@morgankingsley8711]

jack pace You forgot Attack of the Clones. Or are you pretending that one doesn't happen

[@kinglink9541]

Morgan Stephens I think he got attack of the clones and clone wars mixed up.

[@spazbot97]

whoops my bad. lets just pretend it never happened and it will make us all feel better Morgan Stephens *****

[@morgankingsley8711]

jack pace So you do prefer Phantom Menace over that cause you at least accept that as happening

[@josephschultz3301]

Luke: "Well, did'ja try? Did'ja try to bring him back to the good side?" Obi-Wan: "Well... no. W- shut up. You're not a Jedi yet, okay, you can't lecture me." Loved that bit xD .

[@MrBean8100]

The only good thing in the prequels was Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan IMO.

[@ThierryRocksTV]

And Liam Neeson.

[@flyingeagle3547]

+Galahad I agree

[@thefilmeffect6089]

+Galahad THE SCORE AND DARTH MAUL ALSO. John Williams score never disappoints! It was probably a good thing Darth Maul wasnt in the films much, so Lucas didnt have a chance to ruin him.

[@ThierryRocksTV]

***** I thought I was the only one who liked Jango Fett as much as Boba.

[@MrBean8100]

The Film Effect Yes but John Williams wasn't in the prequels exclusively, Ewan McGregor was. Get me?

[@kristianstanimirov4931]

Obi wan didn't go to mustafar to kill Anakin. He went because it's important, because he loved Anakin and wanted to either help him to come to the light side, or destroy him if necessary to save the lives of others. But killing him wasn't the motive, it was a last resort, as he himself says: "then, i will do what i must"

[@Ritzzngiggles]

I actually feel Darth vader yelling No was neccessary. Without it how would I know he was sad. U see lucas is a good writer

[@xstoofpeer]

+Exavair12 He repeatedly mentioned that he would be nothing without Padme, him destroying the whole room shouldve been enough indication. Or were you sarcastic?

[@Ritzzngiggles]

platfish I'm joking I just think its funny

[@xstoofpeer]

Exavair12 y i already expected that haha

[@basslightyeah]

I know your joking but there are soooo many good examples how to show feeling under a mask. finn at force awakens is the best example currently.

[@keIv]

+Exavair12 the movie would've been so badass if it cut when his masks gets put on and starts breathing. - an alternate would to scream "noooo" as he's wrecklessly fucking up the room

[@highlanderc]

He did kill Cin drallig and another jedi while choking with his other hand effortlessly i might add another jedi in the holo recording. But yes... i always wanted to see the temple raid.

[@Tony-hv8wz]

I do wish we got to see more of the raid on the temple

[@EATeezey]

You actually CAN die of a broken heart. It's called stress-induced cardiomyopathy. Considering she had the twins and Anakin had gone off the deep end, it makes perfect sense that her heart failed.

[@jamessteadman933]

Probably should have been specified more in the film.

[@lpsoldier2938]

Obiwan literally lit his saber in the first movie in the cantina on tantooine...Jeremy...

[@lacrosse782]

A lot of nitpicking in this video... I thought it was a very strong movie.

[@bellcross9985]

What was so strong about this movie? That Anakin jumps from a whiny brat to full Columbine massacre psychopath, the fighting that was done so clean and cheap or all the cheesy dialogue that tells us nothing in the end. Give me an example of a good scene please. The only good thing about this movie was Darth Sidious, as he was the only one who showed any emotion - being evil and he loved it.

[@lacrosse782]

I just thought it was a very enjoyable film in general. If you want a single part of the movie, I thought the Order 66 scene was very well done. The mood of the film shifted dramatically after that moment and created a real sense of panic/ urgency for the remaining jedi and politicians. Best scene of the prequels in my opinion.

[@calebmurphy9406]

I agree that you shouldn't need to watch the clone wars to understand the prequels, but theclone wars is actually a fucking amazing show, it's good from season 1-2 but season 3 is better than evey single good moment in the prequels combined! It's all on netflix, do yourself a favor Jeremy and watch that show!

[@nemesisa-type6721]

***** She got all pissy and left.

[@calebmurphy9406]

Nemesis A-Type For good reason though.

[@MichaelMcCallister097]

I gave the show a shot but thought that it was just meh. I only watched the first 6 episodes give or take, but I thought that the pacing and writing was sloppy so I gave up on it. A lot of people like it though so I might have to give it another try lol

[@Call_Me_Matrix]

There's two clone wars shows though - One cgi and another animated. The animated one bridges the gap of Anakin becoming a Jedi and the moments before episode 3 starts (including how Grevious got his lungs crushed)

[@AnimeMetalFan1]

Michael McCallister Trust me, the show gets better around late Season 2-early Season 3. It gets darker in tone and they give the characters more personality and depth. Just watch the Mortis trilogy in season 3 or the Mandalore arc in Season 5 to see what I'm talking about.

[@albinli5019]

This is the one prequel I enjoy, not fantastic in any way, but good.

[@albinli5019]

Albin LI And now I hear Jeremy say the same thing as I'm writting the comment! :D

[@rogerpuzzitiello5175]

This is the movie where I watch it and say "oh hell, I watched it all the way through! I never do that with the prequels"

[@havok6280]

I think the biggest problem with the prequels is you need to read the novelizations and watch the Clone Wars for the story to make sense.

[@jakeboos9860]

I will never read a book to make a movie better

[@BruceWayne-xq1uf]

Welcome to the 301 club how tough are ya?

[@KinGAdil019]

How tough am I? I once ate the booty nigga!

[@donkeldoothedapperdog]

+KinGAdil019 Yeah, so?

[@marvelousmoostacheman5560]

***** Phew, I have survived 2 weeks without internet!

[@kib7292]

Luis Santiago How tough am I? Well, I marked this as spam, so not that tough.

[@KinGAdil019]

...after she took a shit!

[@MaxwellHicks444]

Those 3 villains represent Vader, maul is pure dark side Dukoo is a fallen jedi Grievus is a cyborg

[@MarelorMoon]

Honestly, Vader killed Jedi masters: not only Obi Wan in "A New Hope" but also the masters left in the temple, for example Jocasta Nu and Kin Drallig who tried to save his students.

[@hittkid6312]

Yeah he didn't just kill kids he killed everyone in the Jedi temple, Padawans Knights Masters and those temple guardians too. it would have been awesome if they showed him fighting groups of Jedi in the temple though. He also hunted the Jedi's that didn't die during order 66

[@MarelorMoon]

I know. I am still a bit confused about the new canon. Shaak Ti was one of the Jedi masters and council members he killed too, for a while I guess.

[@J4sse]

Fluttersass for the win! also the showing of the hologram

[@Lancertes]

Yeah, i just think that the MOVIE should've shown us that! We needed to see badass vader :(

[@MarelorMoon]

in the books, it was Kin Drallig and a padawan called Whie together with another unnamed padawan

[@BrianHartman]

It's worth noting that Obi Wan *didn't* go to Mustafar with the intention of killing Anakin. He talks to him firs tand tries to win him over. It's only when he says, "I will do what I must" that he makes his decision.

[@luqosalamanca]

But the reason that Anakin turns Dark Side is not only that he's trying to save padme, but because he saw the lies of the jedi, the corruptions, like you said jedis in prequel were just looking for a fight than justice. Which is why Luke dont have to go through Jedi Trials, and was taught differently with both of Obi-wan and Yoda's ways.

[@SDesWriter]

General You missed the scene where Yoda and Obi-Wan were watching the video recording and Anakin was taking on two Jedi Masters and casually killing both. There wasn't much there but it did show it that there were other masters in the temple and he led the slaughter.

[@zatharos6427]

Actually Jeremy, you are right about Sidious's face being old from sith corruption. Its just that he used Sith magic an alchemy to hide his actual appearance. His own Sith lighting reversed the effects of his magic

[@unityfusion6674]

When the fuk is that ever explained?

[@hugoruda9049]

@@unityfusion6674 in the comics

[@unityfusion6674]

@@hugoruda9049 shouldn't have to read comics to understand the film

[@hugoruda9049]

@@unityfusion6674 it's just a minor detail. There's too much lore the put it all in films. Especially with the sith. They don't touch much in the movies about the old sith

[@JW-jd6sn]

@@unityfusion6674 I agree with you in a sense but come on man it was quite obvious that sidious was using some sort of power to hide is true appearance or he would have been walking about acting with bright orange/red eyes

[@fluffyspork980]

Why didn't they kidnap the children and turn them into Siths?

[@nicholashadwin5564]

+FluffySpork The rule of 2.

[@xstoofpeer]

+FluffySpork .... nuub

[@fluffyspork980]

platfish Been out of touch with Star Wars for several years now. Just recently getting back into it with the Episode 7 being released.

[@xstoofpeer]

FluffySpork scrub

[@itsblitzkrieg8911]

+platfish dick who can't spell

[@highlanderc]

In lucas' defense: 1) If Palpatine dies, the recording holograms will pop up and EVERYONE will know he chopped Mace's hand. That is why he yells: WHAT HAVE I DONE? He is FFFFFFFFKKKKD. His ONLY choice is to follow Palpatine and follow his plan. After all, from a certain point of view it does look like the Jedi where trying to overthrow the "republic" or the Chancellor. So... It was his ONLY out and Palpatine has been very good towards him so it was a no win situation. 2) I feel like when they form that master-apprentice relationship they share the force power/access/pool or whatever you want to call it, so the emperor becomes way more powerful at that point. Which is why he was having sort of an orgasmic look. Anakin opened up the relationship. Now he is sort of a pseudo robot for sidious AND HE HAS NO CHOICE. If you also look at it, he never told padme what happened, you know how disappointed Padme would have been, hence why she didn't know until Obi-Wan told him. But to Jeremy's defense, yes... we never got to know why "vader" and how did they achieve the force ghosting or at least a good explanation for it. Anakin DESTROYED THE JEDI...... if anything good were to survive Anakin/Vader had to die.... Obi Wan had no other choice. He did try to talk him out of it though. But utlimately.. he did what he must. Which was the HUGE difference between obi wans dogmatic view vs Luke's and to some degree Anakin's view of relationships. Obi Wan sent LUKE TO KILL HIS FATHER. They wanted vader DEAD.

[@benjaminbowker-mcowen8642]

When you look back, all makes sense. Mandalorian and Rouge One are the ONLY good thing's Disney has done. We were bad on GL... Look at 'Rise of the Skywalker'.... ugh. Ugh!

[@YTChannel420]

Force awakens and rise of skywalker were great though

[@lapplandkun9273]

@@YTChannel420 no they weren't

[@mattbabineau197]

11:42 uh, well, to quote Yoda immediately after that fight: "Failed, I have."

[@jjmeyers2408]

Having the Jedi as a whole breaking the rules were done purposely by Lucas to show the hipocrisy and corruption within the order. They didnt practice what they preach. And they made rules and traditions that went away from following the true Jedi path and following the will of the force. That was the one of the key points of the prequels. The Jedi religion was flawed at this point and thats one reason why the Sith took over

[@strangerthanfiction4014]

The turn is not sudden, The second half of EP2 is there to really let you feel what Anakin turns into. The emperor just gave him a nudge. Arrogance and over estimation of own powers are the roots that lead to the turn, and the mother story shows that. I think Lucas Story for the Prequels was really interesting and epic, and 20 years later we see that in popular culture the charcters from the prequels are fondly remembered, maybe even more so (because there are much more) than the ones in the OT. Lucas Vision, storywise and visual, cant be contained by a small frame.

[@strangerthanfiction4014]

And seeing that Anakin really gets introduced finally in EP 2 it is very effective use of screen time to let it descend so fast.

[@sephiwolf4472]

2 points here I wanna make about Padme's death. 1. You can technically die of a broken heart. Intense emotional distress can cause the heart muscle to weaken and break down. Granted it takes a LOT of it to happen, but it's still possible. 2. She didn't die of a broken heart. Yes she says "you're breaking my heart" but that has nothing to do with her death. Anikan force choked her. My assumption is that he didn't just cut off the air way but may have crushed her vanes/arteries causing blood clots or causing them to burst.

[@trajoanmayberry8417]

Prequels ranking 3.Sith 2.Menace 1.Clones

[@UnknownUser-gd3ls]

3. Sith 3. Clones 3. Menace all are equal

[@rohailsheikh9105]

Unknown User Hell no! Ep 3 is WAY better than 1 and 2.

[@UnknownUser-gd3ls]

Rohail Sheikh My opinion?

[@Yeagerbonebone]

7 the force awakens 6 a new hope 5 the phantome menance 4 empire strikes back 3 attack of the clones 2 return of the jedi 1 Revenge of the sith

[@mvttz]

coughcough cough Revenge of the Sith is great but I would put it 3rd not 1st. There is too much CGI, a few bad dialogue lines and the transformation from Anakin turning evil isn't very good and the Jedi who fought against palpatine died to easily

[@jonnathanperez1924]

the clone wars cartoon really do fix a lot that the movies did wrong

[@mart4414]

No amount of cheesy dialogue and wooden delivery will ever convince me ROTS is not a cinematic masterpiece that everyone needs to experience.

[@apmfer]

Fat neckbeards think Star Wars is good there are like 2 good movies in the whole franchise

[@TheWhovinerd-1963]

My favourite from each trilogy Prequel Trilogy Revenge of the Sith. Original Trilogy Return of the Jedi Sequel Trilogy Rise of Skywalker. Stand alone films Rogue One.

[@kodeypatterson8973]

The part where Padme was saying "you're breaking my heart" wasn't bad writing it was her trying to tell Anakin what he was doing to her. She wasn't trying to communicate something to the audience. It's my favorite movie of all the Star Wars movies

[@DannyNoLove17]

Nah, it is bad dialogue. Chris Stuckmann basically broke it down to George Lucas not knowing how to convey emotion without explicitly stating it because he's afraid that he can't get his intention across without it.

[@ryanm666]

Jeremy u should rank all 9 films

[@cracklasco]

All we need is episode 3 from the prequels, there's really no point for the other two to exist, everything that you have to know is put into this movie, no need to see episode 1 & 2. It's a good start for all the movie 3-7. I don't need to see 1&2 to get the right information :D

[@LoisyAbigail]

Vader...."father" in German. :)

[@MrKmanStudios]

No it's vater, Vader is father in Dutch

[@LoisyAbigail]

MrKmanStudios Ahhh, I see. My bad, hahaha. Dad used to pronounce it like 'vader' so I incorrectly assumed. Thanks for correcting me.

[@MrKmanStudios]

aranciaaurora lol, no problem.

[@robinanwaldt]

The fact that vader is the dutch word for father has nothing to do with Darth Vader as a Character.

[@robinanwaldt]

The fact that vader is the dutch word for father has nothing to do with Darth Vader as a Character.

[@omarreyes7626]

I think yoda using a lightsaber is actually really cool, never bother me in the least, after all he is using the force to move the way he does, that's why he still uses a cane to walk, he is so powerful he can make himself move faster and more nimble than a regular jedi, that's the way I see it anyway, how could not see an 800 something (by the time of the prequels) year old midget move around like a chinese gymnast and not think the force has something to do with it, to me it actually made me think he is more in-tune with the force.

[@WH250398]

It's bad joke time! Fart Wars: Revenge Of The Shit lololololololololololol

[@DeadPyro96]

WH250398 Wow, that... that was really, really bad. Like worse than I expected. Good job.

[@WH250398]

Dead Pool Thanks

[@kingkusnacht]

Dead Pool Revenge of the Sith doesn't deserve good jokes

[@hockeysong]

let me explain Jermey the reason why the emperors face was fine until the lightning hits him is because he used a ritual to make sure his faces looks like a face and not what we saw in return of the jedi and revenge of the sith

[@cracklasco]

Instead of Vader yelling no, he should've put his hands down and stare forward in silence for a few seconds, then look at Palpatine, then walk forward out of the room. That would've been awesome, it would've showed that Anakin changed to the badass Vader we know and love right there! the very moment he found out Padme was dead and, as Jeremy said, "theres nothing left but the empire", his views change immediately.

[@devandevan1403]

My Star Wars ranking: Revenge of the sith The empire strikes back Return of the Jedi A new hope Rogue one Phantom menace Solo Attack of the clones The force awakens The last Jedi I hope episode 9 is good

[@failureofgames]

@HardikG121 no

[@Gunnumn]

The use of Grievous in this film is actually brilliant. The idea was that he was a precursor to Darth Vader's cybernetics. The symbolism of Obi-Wan being the one that defeats him feels like forshadowing.

[@Eshayzbra96]

What really adds meat to the prequels, specifically to Revenge, is the Clone Wars TV series (2008) which pretty much covers your critiques. You really should try it. HelloGreedo was given a chronological ordered list of the most plot enriching and exciting episodes.

[@drifterbingus]

It's kind of funny how we got that badass villain side of Vader from the ROTS video game from all the Anakin missions.

[@Toasty_Lime]

Still better than the force awakens (in my opinion)

[@azurelord64]

I respect your opinion, but The Force Awakens delivered much more than Sith.

[@Toasty_Lime]

In your opinion

[@mvttz]

Kofi Awa that’s bullshit

[@mvttz]

numpteez you know what Star Wars has become into

[@cameronturk4388]

numpteez I actually liked The Force Awakens. It was Not as Good as The Revenge of the Sith but I liked it. But then I went to see The Last Jedi a few months ago and God Was I Disgusted in that movie!!! And that’s because I was a Big Star Wars Fan! The Last Jedi was Not only The Worst Star Wars Film, It was one of the Worst Films In Cinematic History (for me anyway). I Hated It. Lol.

[@valenfiorini5676]

Man, anakin’s convertion into vader is totally justified, you are the only one that says that dont feel conviction in his turning, everyone including critics liked very much how he was manipulated from episode 2 (his mom’s death) to episode 3 (padme’s desth vision, a feeling of that the jedi dont trust him, palpatines psicologycally torture to him, etc).

[@danielshelley6249]

Dude your impressions are on point lmao The do or do not line is a helpful fact, not an absolute. If you intend to try, but succeed, you did. If you intend to try, but fail, you did not. He's not telling Luke you're not allowed to try, he's simply pointing out that the trying part shouldn't be the goal. You're either with me or against me isn't a fact. He's giving him absolute choices to fit his own selfish desires. There's a key difference.

[@roguetwo5903]

Too bad that the mastery of the force was not how bad ass you were with a light saber, but with how much skill you had with the force itself. If Lucas wanted to have some Jedi be like knights of old, then let them be that. Then have masters of the force like Yoda and the Emperor be the apex force users who stop using light sabers because of their disadvantages. In Return of the Jedi, it seem like the Emperor looked down on light sabers. Only Jedi and people who served him use them, someone as powerful in the force as The Emperor didn't need it. Maybe Disney may go that route, but people love shiny objects with cool fight scenes so probably not.

[@hoseamatthews5302]

You can say whatever about the prequels, they ain't the best, but those films gave us the best fight in the series

[@funofboredom]

The scar was explained in the Clone Wars cartoon by Cartoon Network... He is fighting a war and you complain about 1 scar?

[@Ty-yy7zr]

Dude. You know the clone wars show exists, and if you payed attention to the clone wars, you know damn well that it explains everything. The prequel movies covers the MAJOR events of that era. There's a ton of content in that era that makes it better. You do know that there has been a 3 year gap between 2 and 3, right?

[@ΑντρέαςΝικολάου-ψ9φ]

I won't watch the clone wars because I heard that anakin has got a Palawan. And u was like how he has got a Palawan without being a master and I heart that maul returned too which is the second reason why I won't watch this. DARTH MAUL is dead

[@pinedragon5398]

I always thought it was her temporary connection to the force that allowed her extra strong feelings to kill her. I mean, let’s face it, the force is a very abstract entity that is more often than not powers corporeal beings through their emotions and connections, and she had two force sensitive babies in her and had a strong connection to one of the most powerful Jedi _ever_ , so it always sort of made sense. She knew what her husband was turning into and was going to do and had lost the will to live, so the force was like “alright, die then.”

[@TrulyinFAMOUSProUK]

Me and my mate were talking about how we actually prefer the prequels to the Original Trilogy. I mean, the Original Trilogy has the better films in the way they are done, but we just prefer the prequels, and I think that's purely because we grew up with them. The Phantom Menace was the first film I ever saw in the cinema and I still love it. It's just interesting how much nostalgia impacts our thinking.

[@westcoastflyers144]

That is why the trade federation/Palpatine attacked Kashyyyk so that Yoda would go there and be out of the picture. Same reason why General Grievous went to Utapau to take Obi-Wan away from Anakin. Also most likely the reason Agen Kolar died so easily was because Palpatine used a force scream on them as well as the fact that these Jedi weren't trained to fight Sith they were trained to fight droids because the Sith had been believed to be dead for thousands of years.

[@hunteretc584]

Anakin did kill Jedi, when obiwan watches the security footage it shows him killing grown Jedi

[@alexs_toy_barn]

yea but people wanted whole scenes of him killing jedi, not a few seconds in the bottom of the frame in a blue hologram. one real action scene (or more) of him killing jedi would have been better for the story

[@Da69expert1]

He means before slaughtering children

[@jamestuma7474]

I loved the movie it did what it was supposed to do, It tied the trilogy together and all loose ends. And it did tell how Anakin turned to the Dark side, Fear leads to Anger leads to Hate and Hate leads to suffering. Anakin is afraid of losing Padme and desires more power, His fear turns to anger due to the fact that the Jedi can't or won't teach him what he really wants to learn. His hate comes when Palpatine convinces Anakin that the Jedi are corrupt and distrustful but also the council doesn't allow him to be a master despite his accomplishments, Suffering is when he is in that suit suffering eternal mental and physical pain which he uses to channel into his rage and the entire galaxy suffers because he allowed the Sith to take over. Jedi can love but they can't have attachments.... If you are attached to something or someone you become overwhelmed with fear which turns to immense anger when you lose it.

[@dickfillmore2555]

Jahns, Cin Drallig was in the security footage at the Jedi Temple and is a Jedi Master. The Weapons Master. We already knew from ANH that Darth Vader hunted down and killed all the Jedi. ROTS showed him kill the Younglings and The Weapon Master. It's Symbolism dude. If you were a Diehard, you'd know that ;)

[@EverestBlizzard]

The reason the fight looked so choreographed is because 1-they are Jedis and can move and manipulate the force to be much faster than a normal human and 2-they look like they are dancing because they have fought together so often and know each other so well that they can predict everything from the other person. I commend you for actually being fair with this movie though. Everyone, especially Cinemasins, for as much as I love them, have all been far too critical of this film.

[@matthewloller4063]

*Jeremy says episode III isn't perfect Me: doubt

[@louiemeister9646]

Matthew Loller hah true

[@peterchavez9381]

Well believe or not this isn't a perfect movie and this is coming from a guy who likes the movie

[@lapplandkun9273]

no film is

[@JayyPrime1]

Bruh not the younglings

[@UJSimpson]

You don't deserve that logo

[@BigTylt]

The Last Oakland Raiders Fan How shameful...

[@drowsy5865]

Your right! Not the young o-- oh, it is to late!

[@Kickasscomedy94]

Raiiii-ders!

[@WiseGuy5674]

Kickasscomedy94 What about 'em?..They suck..in a big way.

[@oshinvats7304]

Says the fight between Anakin and Obi Wan is too long: “It’s treason then”

[@deathsdoor07]

What is the point of them twirling their lightsabers at each other?

[@Tripster60]

deathsdoor07 fighting is about technique.

[@tecamaya425]

Well at that point in time Anakin and obi-won were about the same strength/skill so it wouldn't have been a fight that would concluded immediately.

[@deathsdoor07]

@@Tripster60 It looks stupid. "Let's twirl our lightsabers in the air before we go back to our fight."

[@VinnyGuardino]

If u rewatch revenge of the sith it’s honestly way to long lol I’m not a prequel hater I love them a lot and respect the movies but the fight is way to over dramatic I’m fine with them fighting long but when they were swinging on lava platforms like monkeys it was a little bit to much looking back at it

[@LordConstipation]

I think the fact that the Jedi were hypocritical and made mistakes in the prequels was intentional. The prophecy talks about bringing balance to the force, but during the prequels there are thousands of Jedi and only two Sith. The Jedi have become complacent and somewhat corrupt, and Anakin/Vader leading the purge was just part of him fulfilling the prophecy (though unintentionally).

[@blacknite222]

+C Mufasa Thats a very, very interesting way of looking at it... :) Good one.

[@alfaro7118]

thousands of jedi's? I thought there was 66 jedi's

[@LordConstipation]

+Unicron Definitely not. The name of Order 66 has nothing to do with the number of Jedi, lol. I guess I could understand the confusion, but the Jedi were quite a large organization throughout the days of the Old Republic (excluding the First Jedi Purge). Many also died in the Clone Wars before Order 66, but there were still a large number of Jedi active, many of whom stayed at the Temple.

[@alfaro7118]

Ight

[@Facade953]

Mace Windu was actually considering to take over the senate so Palpatine wasn't THAT wrong about the Jedi trying to take over.

[@ArcRogerr]

I don't know that Yoda failed the "test", considering Palpatine had just blasted him across the room with force lightning, so...

[@hero2360]

but yoda first used the force against the guards in the room. technically he still started the fight

[@Eshayzbra96]

Still, Yoda was flawed like the rest of the Jedi. That was the whole point.

[@flyinglions2223]

Hero I don’t blame Yoda for starting it though. Wouldn’t you do the same if you lost your whole Jedi order to Sidious?

[@kiddcannabis3816]

@John Wack true considering he was the grand master and one of the most legendary jedi...he should have lowkey mopped the floor with sidious just using force power. Sidious should only be able to keep up with lightsabers

[@juanlaise1059]

@@kiddcannabis3816 And Darth Sidious was the culmination of a thousand years of Sith surpassing each other.

[@FiggityJones]

As much as I like the Clone Wars animated series, and I agree that in the series you can see Anakin slowly turn to the dark side (sometimes, other times it got weird), I will also say that in my opinion at least the Clone Wars only ever works for me when I consider it as being detached from the dumb prequels. And yeah 100% you should have been able to see his turn coming in the films ALONE, no add-ons required.

[@DerLoladin]

***** I for one actually like the Clone Wars series, with certain episodes as an exception. But especially the focus on the clone troopers was very interesting to me.

[@DerLoladin]

futurewriter87 For me personally, there wasn't enough of a focus on the clones. (That's why I love I.M.P.S. - a documentary about the stormtroopers, all fan made) So many interesting stories that are untold about the clones. Sadly, since I watched Clone Wars I can't re-watch any of the Star Wars movies and not feel bad for the clones and stormtroopers.

[@kyotheman69]

when u say animated do u mean awful 3d series or actual original animated one was so AMAZING it was more believable, great writing, and it ends just as third movie should of started off.

[@Louis-nz1od]

***** What was all that shit with Gandalf and the Outsider from Dishonored? When they get stuck on that planet and then Anakin sees the Vader mask, it's kind of weird :/

[@rochat]

futurewriter87 Don't kid yourself. Lucas sold his soul long before Disney was in the picture. The prequels were more about cashing in on nostalgia and toy sales rather than focusing on a good story. While Disney does love their toy sale money as well, at least they know how to make a good movie. Disney acquired Marvel and they are doing alright.

[@sebastianfitzptraick7395]

Episode III and V are my favourite films in the saga.

[@jellybeanjames4106]

neekafat episode 6 was pretty good too

[@jellybeanjames4106]

Matthew Brant it was mine too

[@rezaimran98]

Sebastian Fitzpatrick My favorite is Episode 6. Only thing bad about Epi 6 is the Ewoks

[@deadpool4798]

RezaImranNinetyEight® nothing bad about the empire strikes back!

[@thelonewolf2929]

Both of them were the ones where the villains win😂

[@AeroHybrid]

This has gotta be the best outta the prequels and it got me teary eyed :'(

[@goodbye4552]

Yep.

[@qbbrock6719]

This was the best of all the prequels

[@goodbye4552]

Indeed! It was exciting and hardcore :3

[@baron7755]

Delon Luu best of shit is still shit

[@AeroHybrid]

***** well the classics will still top them all but let's hope Episode 7 dosen't try anything silly

[@Siimon204]

I'm not gonna say Daredevil, but.. Daredevil.

[@ThisIsMyFullName]

It's so good!

[@josh11735]

YES! Jeremy, do it! :D

[@bendover5289]

Hand to hand combat is better than Arrow tv show

[@TheCoffeeNut711]

Ben Dover drama is also better than Arrow. (Its on the CW, sigh)

[@GreenSamurai2]

***** I would say everything is amazing about Dare Devil but the Dare Devil costume. The helmet looks goofy as hell. I just couldn't take him seriously with that helmet on. He had to be blind to think that was a good look.

[@pitchingwedge7546]

The fact that Obi wan loved anakin was kind of the point. Obi wan wasn't the master Anakin needed, Qui gon was. That's why the duel of the fates was the duel of the fates. It ultimately put anakin down the wrong path. Qui gon would have been the stoic, objective guiding father figure required to teach anakin to control his darker impulses. Obi wan wasn't that. He got attached to anakin and treated him more like a brother because he simply wasn't ready to assume the position of master that Maul (and, by extension sidious) put him in.

[@NeroBlack2200]

Like Jeremy said, Episode 1 should've started with Anakin in his late teens. In there, we see him already in his descent to the Dark Side. In Episode 2, we see his fall to the Dark Side and his taking the mantle of Darth Vader (basically, a two-part story chronicling his seduction and fall). Because, in Episode 3, we should've seen what Obi-Wan told Luke: Vader hunting down and destroying the Jedi. No Galen Marek, no Grievous and his trophies, and no Inquisitor. Just Vader doing what we were told he had done. And through Episodes 2 and 3, we could've watched him accumulate injuries and damage, and assimilating robotic parts a little bit at a time. We watch his appearance alter without actually seeing him in the full, finished armor we know and love, because it shouldn't be until Episode 4 we see the full monstrosity he's become.

[@deathsdoor07]

+NeroBlack2200 Didn't episode 4 allude to the fact that Kenobi was the reason Vader was in the suit to begin with?

[@NeroBlack2200]

I could be wrong, but I don't think so. There was the initial dichotomy of the "good friend" Anakin and his murderer, Vader. When Vader confronts Obi-Wan, we get dialogue mentioning the relationship of "learner" and "master". If 5 or 6 even hint at the cause of his injuries, it's more implicit in just seeing his scars and us being aware of that past relationship. I don't remember their cataclysmic duel ever being explicitly mentioned anywhere other than EU material, much less that it took place near lava.

[@deathsdoor07]

NeroBlack2200 Now I must re-watch the OT.

[@NeroBlack2200]

deathsdoor07 Yeah, memory isn't always the best for this type of discussion. What's readily apparent to me is the fact Lucas overlooked several details from the OT.

[@deathsdoor07]

NeroBlack2200 It doesn't help that Lucas made alterations to the OT.

[@TheMarionick]

'That's genocide in the highest form: A planet's death.' Thanos: 'Cool, but.. look at this magic trick.'

[@Matticitt]

The scene when Palpatine and Anakin are talking in a theatre (or whatever) is just amazingly beautiful.

[@nikkis.2066]

Mateusz Wojtkiewicz "Leave us" That powerful line..in two words. Gotta love Ian McDiarmid

[@brandonjasso902]

Nick Santillo Yup he told some people to leave so powerful....

[@Paul91-]

Mateusz Wojtkiewicz Probably one of the most redeeming scenes out of the prequels

[@zaandarbrow]

Mateusz Wojtkiewicz Is it possible to learn this power?

[@Matticitt]

zaandarbrow what?

[@TheUnusualSuspect]

Awesome review Jeremy! Your Yoda impression cracks me up and you bring up a ton of great points. Though didn't we see Anakin fight some Jedi masters when Obi-Wan and Yoda are looking at the hologram thing? I could be wrong.

[@EuanFoulis]

I think he killed the younglings but in the comics he killed an army of Jedi masters plus he fought obi wan to a basic standstill.

[@l.tc.5032]

Hello there.

[@FanboysUnited]

I think you're right but it looked more like a cowardly "kill them while they're sleeping" type thing. Granted, the Jedi weren't sleeping but it wasn't a battle. In the EU though (now non canon) they establish that Anakin fought a Jedi named Cin Drallig who's apparently the greatest swordsman of the Jedi and while Anakin was fighting him he was strangling his padawan at the same time. So Anakin, one handed killed the best swordsman and strangled his padawan too. But of course it's not in the movies.

[@w-james9277]

The Unusual Suspect Are you going to do one of your reviews on this

[@jonnyhoskinghello]

Cool, a reviewer watching another reviewer's review. Sweet.

[@111204dmwood]

I haven't heard it mentioned at all. In Return of the Jedi Luke is talking to Leia and asked what her mother was like. Leia said she didn't get to know her for too long, but that she remembered her always looking sad. Which would mean Padme should not of died giving birth in Revenge of the Sith. Please correct if I'm wrong.

[@WinterGirlRules]

She didn't die during childbirth. She died afterwards.

[@thea-ronator57]

Jeremy tackled that in his Return of the Jedi review.

[@Spectacular_Insanity]

Daniel Wood My assumption was that Leia wasn't talking about Padme at all in Episode VI, but rather Breha Organa. At the time, I don't think Leia would have known she was adopted considering that she didn't know her heritage. Which would have made sense, since the last thing Bail would have wanted was to give Leia dangerous information while Darth Vader was hunting down the last of the Jedi.

[@thea-ronator57]

crzymn246 wow good point. Never even occurred to me

[@1krani]

Daniel Wood She could've been referring to her adopted mother. Remember, that was before Luke told her that they were siblings.

[@cracklasco]

Fun Fact: Obi-Wan vs Anakin is in the Guinness book of World Records for being the longest sword fight in cinema history.

[@rikudoubapeck]

16 minutes!!!! Whoa never seen a video review by jeremy that's this long.

[@TheSouthsboy14]

He reviews Lord of the rings: return of the king with a video time of 18:20 seconds. That's his longest video.

[@andrewnicholson4278]

Scott Wright He's very passionate about Return of The King and it shows so the 18 minutes just fly by. One of Jeremy's best reviews.

[@wickedeerie9910]

Bat Bapeck His Firefly review is also about 16 minutes long. It's really good, too, one of my favorite reviews for one of my favorite shows.

[@minute-longrants2316]

Bat Bapeck "Star Wars, nothing but Star WARRRS! Give me those STAR WARS! Don't let them ennnnnd."

[@andrewjohnson8919]

Bat Bapeck LOTR: Return of the king is 18 minutes

[@1krani]

9:04 "He's more machine now than man, twisted and evil." "When [Vader turned], the good man who was your father was destroyed." They think he's beyond saving in the OT. They think Luke needs to kill him. Remember that the Sith are the same guys who killed a lot of people and plunged the galaxy into civil war just to get at the Jedi. For Anakin to willingly side with the people who cut off is limb means he knows all this, and he made the conscious choice to follow them anyway. When he did that, he stopped being Anakin and instead became "the enemy". And Obi-Wan still sees Anakin at the time of their battle. That's why he walks away instead of just sticking his lightsaber into Anakin's eye. Also remember, Luke was the only guy making a case on Vader's behalf. Why does Luke try to save him where Obi-Wan does not? Because Luke isn't a Jedi like Obi-Wan and Yoda are Jedi. He's the first of the new Jedi, having grown to manhood without being taught ethics and philosophy by cold, emotionless beings. He doesn't have the same prejudices as they do. They see a monster who blows up planets and needs to die, Luke sees a human being who's been manipulated into doing all these things. Stop comparing the prequels to the OT like they're sequels. Roughly half of the complaints I've seen about the prequels start with "In the original trilogy". That's not fair to the prequels. Addendum: For those who ask why Obi-Wan didn't try to save him in RotS, remember that Obi-Wan tried to talk Anakin out of the fight no less than _three_ times, one of which was just after he watched Anakin strangle his own wife. I think that speaks volumes of how much Obi-Wan doesn't want to kill him, coupled with the fact that he was constantly giving ground throughout the fight and passed up numerous opportunities for an easy kill.

[@jethrosmith8996]

Ikrani I agree. I feel like everyone keeps looking at the Star Wars movies in order of release date instead of the order of the episode numbers. I mean, Lucas planned for this trilogy all the way back when he was writing Empire Strikes Back. Maybe there isn't any meaning behind the name "Vader". In the novelization, they say it just means "him"... Which is what a name does, isn't it? I don't know. "Darth Vader" sounds cool and that's probably why Lucas initially decided to go with it back when he still made movies that he wanted to make instead of movies he thinks we want to see (Strange Magic, anyone?)

[@killmachine5476]

Jethro Smith Common misconception that Lucas had all this dreamed up during the OT. He made that shit up as he went along. He even has a quote somewhere along lines of "Make them think you have it all planned" or something. The only thing he planned ahead for in the prequels was that Vader gets messed up in lava. That's it. The Trade Federation didn't exist, the clones were the enemies of the Clone War (at least, in the notes he gave to Timothy Zahn) and Yoda taught Obi-Wan.

[@1krani]

Killmachine91 Where's your source? I wanna read this for myself. As I hear it, he didn't flesh out the story of the prequel trilogy itself, but he definitely wanted to explore Vader's past. After all, why would he hint at it so heavily in Empire if he wasn't going to do anything with it?

[@JeremyJahns]

Ikrani I believe he said it to J.J. Abrams after "Lost" finished. Let's hope Abrams ignored his advice.

[@varunnair5641]

***** hi

[@ThatIckyGuy]

I think the movie poster is referring to romantic love. Obi-Wan feels brotherly love for Anakin, these are two different things. Then again, that shows attachment and Jedi aren't supposed to have attachments. But young Obi-Wan is proven to be pretty flawed. He killed Darth Maul (or injured him if you go with the EU) partially out of anger and he was clearly attached to Qui Gon Jinn.

[@boyinapeatbog]

***** Clone Wars is canon. Darth Maul lives :)

[@MaMastoast]

***** Thats what I enjoy about star wars though. The jedi of the old republic are hypocrites. They are an order that has become arrogant with time. That's why you can KINDA justify the whole universe turning against them with the empire. THis is also why in the old EU, Luke Skywalker was a great leader when he established a much more compassionate jedi order.

[@Gorvar100]

MaMastoast Agreed. In the Old Republic novels post KOTOR Revan and bastilla wanted to introduce the idea of having Jedi being married and have kids but the Order was pretty hardcore bout the celibacy thing and both were kicked out as a result. I never understood why the Jedi were so adamant about that. I mean for the Night's Watch I can kinda understand sicne their job is pretty important but the people there made that choice. Jedi are pretty much kidnapped and brainwashed to join this order where sex isnt allowed and if you do want to have a family you get kicked out. Like you said, Luke did the awesome thing of having a more tolerant Jedi order....and he wanted to bang Mara Jade. I mean, you would!

[@MaMastoast]

Georg Veramme They just fail to understand that by banning such a natural desire. They are causing a lot more conflicts than otherwise would've been there. Jedi are just as human/alien as ayone else, even if they have a stronger willpower. Banning things like relationships and sex simply creates places for doubt and frustration to build.

[@DerLoladin]

MaMastoast Exactly. But the old jedi order kept their old rules and ideals very close.This mostly comes from arrogance and that they have established a certain "superiority" in the galaxy, as the only force users. You have to look at it like the church. They also have kept their mindset very ignorant of what is going on around them and that they need to evolve to stay alive. When Luke revived the Jedi Order, he included his own ideals that he grew up with and which made him the jedi he was. Overall you can argue that the Jedi had it coming and were closer to their sith adversaries than they knew.

[@Me-wk7dz]

Personally I like all the Prequel movies. Just sayin'.

[@redoctober3907]

Me, as well.

[@Paul91-]

blob blob For as stupid as 1 and 2 are they actually do have some quality good stuff in them.

[@JinX_11199]

Same here

[@tylerjacobson8012]

They suck

[@asterixobelix20]

+blob blob Same here.

[@Evelina_412]

Palpatine named him Vader because he's aware of Padme's pregnancy and vader means ,,father'' in dutch. What's amazing is that when the originals came out and we first learned about the characters, Luke's missing father and then heard about Vader, Netherlands knew the biggest spoiler in cinematic history.

[@tomwijenbergh7218]

+Evelina999 Really> I mean, I'm Dutch and I haven't heard anything about that. Obi-Wan clearly says that Darth Vader killed Luke's father, so I'm not sure people would connect the dots even knowing what the name means.

[@Evelina_412]

Tom Wijenbergh Wouldn't it be something like ,,Your father killed your father''? People would put this stuff together. Unless they changed his name in the translation.

[@tomwijenbergh7218]

Well it's just subtitles, right? So it's still "Darth Vader killed your father". I bet people were just like "Ha what a funny coincidence" instead of "Oh wow that means this Darth guy is his father". Because even though the name 'Vader' means 'father', there could be a million different reasons for it other than him being Luke's dad. So I don't think people caught on to it... especially since the notion that some villain Luke has never even met in his life and commands armies is his father is so far out there. Sure, in retrospect it might seem a bit obvious, but that can be said of a lot of plot twists in cinematic history.

[@Evelina_412]

Tom Wijenbergh I'm sure that some people figured it out.

[@tomwijenbergh7218]

Evelina999 Possibly, but I haven't heard anything about it myself, and I doubt it was like a widespread thing here. The theory of Vader being Luke's father, that is.

[@gtperman]

"The final Star Wars movie!" If only you knew, Jeremy from 5 years ago... If only you knew.

[@redskinsman10]

Oof

[@exit1595]

All that innocence in his eyes... lost.

[@joshuahancock7125]

He said the final movie before December which was the time the force awakens came out

[@doomsday4311]

He didn't know he had to witness the abiminations The Last Jedi and Rise of Skywalker were

[@alexman378]

@@joshuahancock7125 Yup… So hopeful, excited for what the future holds… If only he knew…

[@deckthelols4813]

"Wait what did you say....about Mein Kampf?"

[@kevinn3905]

+DeckThe Lols "It's like poetry, it rhymes"

[@deckthelols4813]

Kevin N "It's so dense"

[@kevinn3905]

Fuck you Rick Berman, you ruined this too? Stop ruining eve- wait a minute, that's not Rick Berman.

[@deckthelols4813]

What is it with Ricks?

[@kevinn3905]

You know, there's only one thing dense here. And it ain't the frame... [stares at Lucas]

[@KnightOfTheWind15]

Vader did canonically kill a several Jedi Masters in the Temple. Also, Obi-Wan did try to talk Anakin down a bit before Anakin attacked.

[@RedfurredPikachu]

Even when their fighting Obi-wan tries one last time to talk to him.

[@RedfurredPikachu]

If your talking to me he tried to talk to Anakin twice before the fight started and again when their riding on the lava.

[@hexprime5478]

Its almost like jeremy didnt even watch the movie😂

[@joker18524]

Hex Prime there was a time when pretty much everyone on the internet was obligated to hate the prequels, so what you see here is blind hate.

[@sebastiancintron29]

@@joker18524 or people pl let just have differing opinions. I swear if theres one thing the sequel trilogy did that was worse was give people this false sense in thinking the prequels are hidden gems or masterpieces when in fact, they're not. They're still as bad as s they were back when they released.

[@Xylarxcode]

The thing about a Jedi not knowing love is bullshit. A Jedi can know love, but only platonic love. For example, love for their family/friends/species and a general love of life as a whole is not only allowed, but encouraged. It's passion they can't have. The Jedi Code goes: There is no passion, there is serenity. A romance without passion is not a romance at all. So Obi-Wan saying he loved Anakin like a brother is within the acceptable parameters set forth by the Jedi, but a passionate romance between a man and woman such as Anakin was having is taboo.

[@TheOriginal_Unaleska]

Xylarxcode ive been yelling this for years when people said that about jedis are bad because of no emotions/love.

[@joeycook7076]

Could’ve been illustrated better though

[@Eshayzbra96]

I've been saying for years that George intentionally made the Jedi very flawed because their ignorance was the reason as to why the Order collapsed in the first place, yet critics on KZbin always stated those flaws as a mistake which is fucking stupid, because the critics are too busy comparing the Jedi in the prequels to Obi Wan and Yoda in the OT. Yoda and Obi Wan are so different in the prequels, less enlightened so to speak, because they followed the same flawed laws of the Jedi Order until they survived the downfall, and been given the chance to reflect. George did it perfectly, but fans saw it as poor writing. Yes the prequels suffer from it, but the Jedi being the cause of their own downfall was the fucking point and OT fanboys missed that point entirely. So yeah, about the Love thing you are correct but it is one of the many hypocrisies that the Jedi had which Luke himself points out in Last Jedi (though he just called them hypocrites, which is nice because it was a reference to the Prequels).

[@zvonkofonko2673]

"There is no passion, there is Serenity"? Hogwash and balderdash! Try this one: "Passion yet Serenity" ;)

[@subswithnovideoschallang-qu4jb]

Xylarxcode jedi can Love but they are said they cant reproduce so that theres not so much force sensitive children

[@rainingsnake8422]

"...for the final star wars movie to exist" Me: cries in sequel trilogy

[@viksaggu9085]

The poor guy doesn’t know how the sequel will kill our feelings of Star Wars

[@frantisekfojt8688]

​@@viksaggu9085 The new Disney crap is not Star Wars

[@Wade_Fucking_Wilson]

František Fojt it’s fanfiction

[@28_ranggaclio]

@@Wade_Fucking_Wilson bad fanfiction, the action is pulled out of children's tale

[@valentinkambushev4968]

You know I have the filling that if I search for a fanfiction that was written before the Disney trilogy it would be more entertaining and starwarish then the new trilogy.

[@MrThedorkknight]

He's called Darth Vader because Vader is Dutch for father. No, really that's george lucas' reason.

[@Evelina_412]

The plot twist was really ruined for them...

[@ThisIsMyFullName]

lol that's rather silly, considering that it's spelled "vater", and is pronounced with an F, as in "farter". So he should had been called Lord Farter.

[@MrThedorkknight]

ThisIsMyFullName Vader is dutch for father. Source: I'm Dutch.

[@themindofceline]

MrThedorkknight lmao @ pitch perfect getting it wrong tho and saying it's the german word for father, like nah, seriously, it's dutch. a simple google search could've fixed that

[@Wastydest]

Celine H Yes Im german and in german it would be Vater.

[@AstroManX100]

Grievious was AWESOME in the orignal Clone Wars cartoon. It sucks that he was such a push-over in this movie. If he was anything like the original Grievious, he would have kicked Obi-Wan's ass faster than you could say "may the force be with you". I also think his voice in the original cartoon was better. It sounded calm and relaxed, but in the movie, he sounded like he was growling the entire time.

[@Minetic]

My only explanation for that part is that Mace did crush his chest so maybe that played into why he was such a push over. But then again it is George Lucas

[@RevanNaut]

AstroManX100 Oh hell yea, I love the 2D Clone Wars Grevious. Such a badass, he managed to beat several jedi masters at once... Bit of a shame he lost to Gungans in the 3D series...

[@eirikmarthinsen3850]

***** Why the bloody hell would grievous be able to do anything like that? That was the problem with the cartoon. It was way, way over the top ALL the time. Clone Wars gave him a better and more realistic portrayal.

[@RevanNaut]

Pasan Etternavn You prefer him losing to gungans?

[@RevanNaut]

***** Lucas: Hey, remember that tie-in series you made to conincide with Episode 3? Make that non-canon. It was stupid.