Star Wars Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast - Chapter 8 - Cairn Installation (Cutscenes)

[@jellyicebeam4150]

I like Legends Luke, he’s not one to fear emotions and anger. He doesn’t lecture Kyle for carrying anger. After all, suppression of emotions led to the fall of the Jedi Order. Luke’s expression of anger and compassion for his friends also brought vader back to the light

[@saberiandream316]

Yeah, he never gave up trying to return Brakiss to the light. And in New Jedi Order, while he had to stop Daeshara'cor from hunting down new superweapons, he didn't single her out for extermination or exile, he returned her to the fold and allowed her to partake in the Battle of Ithor afterwards. Luke's forgiving nature is just something Filoni and Disney do not understand.

[@easygrin1127]

yes i want a game with this Luke Skywalker....

[@Nocturnewashere]

Legends Luke is great. He learned from the mistakes of the Jedi Order and realize that emotions and love don't weaken a Jedi and tempt them to the Dark Side, but strengthen them. He's in tune with the light and darkness within himself, he knows that maintaining a balance in himself is the true way.

[@easygrin1127]

@@Nocturnewashere the true Luke... This Luke was actually the chosen one. And it would have fit the story perfectly. But instead we ended up with Disney Luke another stepping stone for a Disney princes.

[@edwardharris5301]

@@easygrin1127 I was about to say the same. I've seen no real development for Luke's character in any of the new material- he just wanders around the galaxy. Half heartedly builds a temple - 2 days later his nephew kills everie and luke retires... and then he bitches about life to the girl.. and then he dies. the end

[@vladzîîîî]

The atmosphere in this game is what exactly what a Star Wars game should be and feel like

[@saberiandream316]

Yeah, because despite what the haters TRY to spin, George Lucas was intricately involved in all levels of everything that carried the Star Wars name, whether it was books or comics or video games or short stories, not JUST the movies, so that classic George Lucas spirit is ever-present, at least until he began turning away and letting his company do its own thing after Revenge of the Sith in 2005.

[@rambunctiousmedia3350]

It was me and my brother's first "dark" Star Wars game before Republic Commando came along. It had plenty of mood to offer us between the barrens of Kejim and Artus Prime, the depths of Nar Shadda, Bespin, and the Cairn Installation's reactor, the promotional images, AND footage from the Xbox and GameCube exclusive mission to Alzoc III.

[@mateckz]

Bro this game was amazing even the later ones. The first two were just exactly what you thought being a jedi would feel like. Miss the day games were made like this.

[@wortwortwort1686]

I love how the graphics aren’t that good but the lightsaber mechanics and dueling is better than any other Star Wars game that has been released before and after.

[@mwoodhouse2778]

Very true it's 1 of the best 🙌👍 lightsaber combat games

[@fierypickles4450]

Gets even better with movie duels

[@aamirrazak3467]

Yeah it was ahead of it’s time in terms of lightsaber combat

[@dazdavis7896]

No, it isn’t. Jedi academy, its successor, was far more realistic. It actually integrated the 7 actual, classic styles of the Jedi order, if you’re using Anakin in movie duels, he’s using his Djem so strikes, if you’re using Dooku, he uses his makashi swordplay. It has way better mechanics than Outcast ever did.

[@Ivan_Berni]

@@dazdavis7896 the mechanics are the same in Academy and Movie Duels, they just added more animations to the combat and that improved it a lot, by giving more variations and possibilities, but is practically untouched in the core.

[@NJindypro]

Fighting alongside Luke VS The Reborn is the highlight of the game for me.

[@matthewdunk]

This game shows that is possible to have Luke in a supporting role without hiding him away. Something Disney seems to think is impossible.

[@saberiandream316]

He was in a supporting role in Young Jedi Knights, the focus was on the next generation of Jedi Knights. Almost as if fans like the idea of well-written new characters and not ciphers or something.

[@GrosvnerMcaffrey]

If luke had a vag then gisney would give a shit

[@brennanknudsen6942]

@@saberiandream316 Yes, we absolutely love the making of new well-written characters. This is something Disney’s shown blatant incompetence at and perhaps even a lack of desire to accomplish 🤪

[@Lalaxbo]

This level was so much fun in Jedi Outcast and when Kyle and Luke fought side by side against Stormtroopers and Reborns ! 😁 Jedi Outcast was such a fantastic Star Wars Jedi Knightgame and my favorite :)!

[@michaelwong6050]

"Sometimes even a small hope is enough to defeat the darkside" Funny how a game understood Luke Skywalker better than Rian Johnson did. Come to think of it, Desann was pretty much like Kylo Ren, only Luke didn't take off and give up on everything. Instead, he stayed positive and helped clean up the mess. Just shows you can have Luke fail one of his students and not ruin his character. Watching this makes me so mad at Rian Johnson and Disney.

[@RecklessFire29]

+Michael Wong You also seem to forget that save for that huge Deus Ex Machina where he blew up a Space Station, Luke has always been a failure as a Jedi. He couldn't even mindtrick a Stormtrooper, and he lost every Saber duel he was in until he moved towards the dark side and came after his Dad. Luke's always been a shit character, the Jedi Knight games redeemed him. The Rian version of Luke is literally a carryover of the original Luke.

[@gentlemanbronco3246]

@@RecklessFire29 Luke was flawed and immature. The originals showed this quite clearly. Rian's version of Luke is literally a far cry from what Luke was by the time of part 6. A wiser and calmer Jedi knight where he only lost to his emotions when his family was being threatened but even despite that, still beat back the dark side and stayed his hand from killing his own father. You're telling us that that Luke and Rian's bastardization is the same? Lmao yeah. Try justifying Rian's shitty movie you shill.

[@stargatecommand714]

@@gentlemanbronco3246 Yummy salt 😂 you going to ignore Luke's actions in Dark Empire too?

[@gentlemanbronco3246]

@@stargatecommand714 lmao I can't ignore something I haven't read. Hell I'm not even talking about how Luke was in this game or in anything Legends affiliated. I'm keeping my arguments grounded based on the movies. Nice try btw.

[@psgaming101craup4]

@@stargatecommand714 Luke in dark empire infiltrated from the inside and wanting to understand what his father saw he knew he was taking a gamble and guess what. Still beaten back the dark side and still rebuilt the jedi order and everything this is not remotely comparable to anything in the sequel trilogy.

[@hansolo1571]

Desann was no pushover in combat, but even he knew that throwing something on Luke and escaping was the best option for him.

[@gameragodzilla]

I. Th. Desaan got a boost from the Valley of the Jedi, which made him powerful enough to get away from Luke. The real Luke. Jake Skywalker would’ve just not showed up and then have a heart attack and die.

[@Mr-Tibbster]

"Jake Skywalker" is a reference to Luke in The last Jedi, Episode 8. Mark Hamil came up with the name Jake Skywalker as he felt he was not playing the same character.

[@ljklmoiaoklmlljkajksjdklfm503]

Hahah hell no Luke was a toy compared to Desann he attacked Luke and massacred his home

[@clark5317]

@@ljklmoiaoklmlljkajksjdklfm503 Expect that he didn't?

[@clark5317]

@Irfan Alddin You're assuming a lot here. First of all,Kyle entered the temple from the underground. Meaning there were probably more attack forces attacking from the normal exit. I would seriously not be surprised if that's where Luke and most of the Jedi were. Also, Kyle and the few other Jedi inside the temple only killed about 30 reborn. Considering that they sent several legions of troops down to the planet, ai would not be surprised if Kyle and the Jedi only took out one legion. Maybe a legion and a half, if you count the ones he killed in the Swamp. But, like Fyyar said, they had thousands of reborn. Granted, some of them exploded on the Doomgiver, but a lot them were still sent down, and they didn't just go poof. And who could've defeated them? Luke, and whereever the rest of the Jedi were.. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jedi inside the temple were padawns, considering Luke would want to hide the most un-trained.

[@brandonschuster4907]

Did Luke just say "Damn"?

[@FalconsPOWN2]

yup. "Sithspit" is a swear word in the Universe of Star Wars as well, Kyle likes this word.

[@saberiandream316]

@@FalconsPOWN2 Well... I guess stang happens.

[@tykamen5588]

You know it's weird hearing Luke Skywalker say "damn"

[@AtaTheKin]

the story is way better than any sequel movie

[@campbellblk7484]

Remembering this game I can see why everyone hates what Disney did. This is more Star Wars than anything Disney has done with the sequels.

[@aleksandarvil5718]

Way BETTER than ENTIRE #Disney's Star Wars _Sequel Trilogy_

[@Galimeer5]

Fighting back-to-back with Luke is so great. I played around in the sandbox level, spawning in Desann, Tavion, and Luke and had an epic 2v2 fight. God, this game is so good. I need to replay it soon.

[@jaroslavchladek2183]

This game is gold!!

[@AtlasFlynn]

2:26 ''ight, imma head out''

[@Ivan_Berni]

Great for a "Get Real" .gif

[@MetoF50Narliev]

When I was a little and didn't understand English I believed these were the remains of the Death Star.

[@MrRandomRussell]

MetoF50 .Narliev I vaguely thought the same lol

[@InjuredPelican]

Better writing than the Last Jedi?

[@Askold7kr]

And Force Awakens too, yes. At least here scenario have a sense and logic. Damn, even characters looks more alive and have more motivation.

[@flowersdely]

AGREED! I miss the old EU; books, videogames, comics etc. SOO MUCH BETTER than this new disney s**t! lol

[@master13fox]

Yes but JK takes places nearly after Endor. TLJ 30 years after

[@theia1653]

JK2 was the direction the new trilogy should've went.

[@-CrimsoN-]

​@@master13fox Even in the EU, Luke never becomes completely changed the way he is in TLJ, even 40 years after Endor. "The future is to be lived, not prearranged" - Luke Skywalker to Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus during the Second Galactic Civil War

[@tealeafandco]

Now That is an assault ship. Needs some adjustments but otherwise, a very nice flagship.

[@deathslice60]

Agreed

[@taylorpack7705]

This should have been the story of 7-9

[@flowersdely]

That R2 unit beeping in the back tho...XD

[@Jabberwockybird]

In a live action movie series, who should have played who? Kyle and Jan did have real actors in the Jedi Knight II cutscenes. And of course all the OT actors. Galak: Chris Sandaran (Prince Humperdink) Tavion: Michelle Pfeiffer (Catwoman) but she would have to be "faster and more intense" Desann: Ron Perlman maybe? Kyle's father: Chuck Norris Chiss bartender: Steve Buscemi maybe? Thoughts?

[@saberiandream316]

Who played Cassian Andor and Jyn Erso? Because those characters are just paper-thin cutouts of Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors. Shit, they're not even TRYING to hide that it's a gender-flipped Dark Forces!

[@Jabberwockybird]

@@saberiandream316 Nah, keep the modern Disney people out of this.

[@ThoughtWellness]

that Droid beeping constantly in the background has got to stop lol

[@theonlywaycandoit4282]

never knew the word 'damn' was used in sta wars haha

[@jktipan87]

The best game i still have it

[@VictorPitstop]

Please bring this to canon... c’mon Faveau and Filoni!!

[@Roycesraphim1]

Well?

[@VictorPitstop]

@@Roycesraphim1 absolute YES.

[@saberiandream316]

As we saw recently in BOBF, Luke is being just as dogmatic as the old Jedi, same with Ahsoka (which is weird since she LEFT THE JEDI ORDER), almost as if he's setting up to repeat the mistakes of the old Jedi, like he said in Last Jedi - oh yeah, _he is._ Filoni was NEVER going to give you the Legends version of these characters. NEVER. Never, never, never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. Look what he said in 2014. "When I was making Clone Wars, I always knew we were doing the 'canon bomb,' or the 'continuity bomb,' and I'd go into the office and be like: 'wait until you hear what the Mandalorians are like according to George.' And I would know a year or more in advance what that was going to do. But to be honest I still work the same way I did when I worked with George, which is: there's an amazing group of talented artists and writers creating all of this stuff, and I still mine it all the time. Filoni is a fraud masquerading as a lore master, but is in fact just a mainstream chaser, always playing it up before a crowd, telling them what he _thinks_ they want to hear, but silently laughing as he holds them in contempt the entire time. It's OKAY if you love the Disney+ shows they make, but don't _justify_ it by trying to somehow insist the sequels aren't in the same timeline. THEY ARE. And I'm sure Filoni would agree _they have been_ since 2008!

[@VictorPitstop]

@@saberiandream316 I’ll take Filoni over KK ANY DAY.

[@saberiandream316]

@@VictorPitstop Filoni was ON SET for Last Jedi and recommending TCW episodes to Johnson. He calls Johnson a mentor. He loves Kennedy and has nothing but praise for her. Shortly after Last Jedi, he tweeted about how much he loved the movie. He defended Rey and insisted that she's not a mary sue. _COME ON._ You're living dangerously in a fantasy wonderland to think Filoni can ever give you Legends stories like it was before Disney.

[@sirjess007]

3:30 When this game added the famous John Williams theme of the Imperial March in a post-Ep VI era unlike in certain projects of the Disney Star Wars timeline lol

[@Spidermantobey2009]

Is it just me or is it strange hearing Luke say damn?

[@bodhitree33]

Ah Sith spit!

[@Foxtrop13]

Kyle Katan, Dash Rendar, heroes claimed by the retcon of the rat

[@saberiandream316]

I freakin' hate Disney Star Wars. It has no soul.

[@lazygenie5616]

The fact that luke doesn’t just pull his saber away or just disarm him in like 2 seconds is a insult to luke.

[@Randoman590]

Well, don't forget this game is set not too long after Return of the Jedi, so Luke hasn't had the time to become as ridiculously powerful as he was in the rest of the EU. Plus Desann's been through the Valley of the Jedi which is sort of a Force amplifier effect. It's difficult to accurately relay and compare character power levels when they all use the same mechanics. In the game's code, Desann has a lot more health than Luke simply because Desann's boss battle needs to last longer and Luke's NPC is only used a few times in combat.

[@ljklmoiaoklmlljkajksjdklfm503]

Luke is an insult to himself as if that turd can beat someone as badass as Desann

[@lazygenie5616]

Hijynks you make a good point. I don’t even think Darth Caedus was born yet so it’s still early days for Luke

[@HeWhoDwells]

He also specifically said that he went through the Valley of the Jedi, which Qu Rhan said had the power to cause supernovas with a thought and life-wipe a star system with a whisper, so the fact Luke fought him as well as he did is impressive. In his early days no less.

[@Nocturnewashere]

@@Randoman590 I mean, I think Jedi Outcast is around 10 years after ROTJ. So Luke would have been a rather strong Jedi at this point and arguably in his prime, the issue is that Desann had reached the Valley of the Jedi which could give unbelievably strong power. Kyle only used a little bit of the Valley's power and it gave him the strength to be a one man army against the Reborn- so imagine how strong Desann became?

[@atlasprime6193]

There’s so much weight in Luke’s word when he said he scattered Desann and his Reborn troops. All by himself. We never get to see it, but it feels great to hear Luke casually flexing his Chosen One status like it’s Tuesday.

[@marekmarbbydzovsky6516]

master Skywalker

[@kierandavey840]

Ain’t no one talking bout luke just saying damn

[@mattgerrish908]

Who else is here because they bought Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast on the PlayStation Store a few days ago on September 24th?

[@TSPH1992]

I bought it on the Switch since I don't have a PS4. If people bought it and enjoy it on the PS4. I am cool with that. It's a game everyone should enjoy no matter the platform

[@mattgerrish908]

@@TSPH1992 this game was the first ever first person shooter I played back in the day when I was seven on computer. Aspyr is doing God's work re-releasing this game

[@TSPH1992]

@@mattgerrish908 they also released ja a while ago

[@mattgerrish908]

@@TSPH1992 oh believe me I know. I bought both of them the day they came out

[@davidtexmex1616]

Was it this Kyle Katarn game where you could wall run at some point? I remember being blown away by the move and reconfiguring my keyboard to make it easier. And like someone else mentioned, the lightsabre mechanics were great in this game, different stances (I think🤔). Good times from a simpler Star Wars era.

[@CrimsonKnight77]

I think it was present in this, but it might have been Jedi Academy.

[@mikael8864]

You could wallrun both in JO and JA, it's different animations tho.

[@saberiandream316]

Before the dark times. Before Disney.

[@Santouryu3]

2:49 Desann: It's over, Luke! I have Obi-Wan's high ground now! Luke: Don't slice me in half like my dad did...

[@BrandNewByxor]

Somehow I've never noticed how Desann is floating on the door switch until now.

[@Cloofinder]

Kyle: Does this mean we have a new Emperor on our hands? Luke: it may be worse than that. Disney: Whaaaaaaaaaa?! Impossible! Star Wars fans: yeah Disney, this game company has Better writing than you!

[@gino5692]

Yooo the new mando episode probably made a referenced that sence

[@mikael8864]

When?

[@gino5692]

@@mikael8864 It's a huge reach but the cargo bay in Mando looks very familiar to the one in Jedi Outcast.

[@saberiandream316]

Favreau and Filoni were NEVER giving you Legends. Never. Look at the recent content and try to TELL ME they don't lead into the sequels. _They do._ And why shouldn't Lucasfilm foster that misconception? After all, Filoni "redeemed" the prequels with TCW (despite bulldozing over the previous multimedia project), so no doubt the executives think he can do the same thing a second time. _We made this possible._ As a fandom. By settling for low standards with a charlatan like Dave Filoni. He is no lore master and no great savior. Never was, never will be.

[@diegomeringer3953]

Save your strength fool

[@davefischer2344]

God so amazing

[@crazymonkeyvk714]

Better than Battlefront 2

[@Mr-Tibbster]

I like Luke in 2017 SWBF as much as I do in Jedi Outcast, they both feel authentic to the character and gives logical progressions from his experiances and learned life lessons from the OT, as opposed to TLJ.

[@lilcolgatevert3715]

Luke in Battlefront 2 was awesome. His line to the Imperial about why he helped him was perfect. "Because you asked"

[@psgaming101craup4]

@@Mr-Tibbster To bad the is completely ruined by the comics and sequel trilogy.

[@Mr-Tibbster]

@@psgaming101craup4 Ah well, we can always follow Legends as the alternate universe we prefer :)

[@psgaming101craup4]

@@Mr-Tibbster Is unfortunate to disney had the potential to produce something better maybe improve the eu. But I don't see how they can recover without rebooting.

[@dalelash2nd743]

Cairn Installation was my least favorite level of the entire game. Main reason: the whole stealth bit of it. I SUCK AT SNEAKING AROUND! I prefer a good fight then to all that sneaking around.

[@MegamanZXOmega]

Calm down, Han. XD

[@dalelash2nd743]

@@MegamanZXOmega Lol.

[@tykamen5588]

Yeah the stealth section kind of feels like it was thrown in at the last minute

[@Jabberwockybird]

I enjoyed it. It got me started on games like The Operative: No One Lies Forever, and some James Bond games.

[@Jeremiah-h4u]

you can camp the computer thing and kill all the troops that try to activate it.

[@erheetrherh2659]

"Discipline"

[@nathanchun4880]

Luke and Kyle remind me of Anakin and Obi-Wan a little bit

[@easygrin1127]

i just want a game where i can play as post Rotj Luke Skywalker.

[@saberiandream316]

Well, it's not a story Disney would ever tell you.

[@Ivan_Berni]

EA Battlefront II let you play a bit of it, he feel like an actual Luke instead of a Jake, but is a short and boring section.

[@th3skull54]

They should remake this game in Unreal Engine 5

[@Desitt]

How did you upload a copyrighted music?

[@milosnovakovic1724]

Helou i require a mod that i can't faind animore as it was a mod where you du Luke story that lead to this part on Karin where he meat Kyle...Anibudiy remember that mod ?

[@lethalassassin1754]

Milos Novakovic wait really? That would be awesome to play a mission as luke in between. I have mods for this, i have the single player luke model and hilt for this game which made it more fun i always wanted to play as luke when i was a kid. Then i bought this again a few years ago still play it. Ill look for that mod see what i can find

[@milosnovakovic1724]

Adam Benton Be warned it was an old mod that I so on some mod websites and I never downloaded it in the fearst pleace.An like I seyed I can't faind it anymore and I bet you can't faind it neither as like I seyed ic an old mod and probobliy not exsist animore...

[@SpaceMonke99]

The Doomgiver is one of the ugliest and poorly named ships in the history of Star Wars. Doomgiver? Really? Have they no imagination?

[@LightDsco]

well, more like desann has no imagination when he named his flagship ;)

[@shadowman7307]

If this is the ugliest ship you've seen, you've definitely not seen many of them.

[@tealeafandco]

Wots wrong with "Doomgiver".? At least it`s name is to the point, no faff etc..

[@mickhack8034]

They added KoToR music lol

[@Jabberwockybird]

Both made by LucasArts. KoToR came out later, so they probably re-used some of the music.

[@alexeysavelyev]

no?

[@greensmannnn]

Disney Starwars makes me so depressed

[@Theoneandonly-Godzilla]

3.32

[@tuutelis]

Damn. That's not good.

[@usul573]

Look how they massacred my boy.

[@KetomyAlba]

Pp

[@stefanjevtic7175]

I take it, this is no longer Canon now?