Star Wars Legion Battle Report - Episode 051 - Shadow Collective vs Separatist

*** Viewers found an editing mistake, at the start of Turn 3 (30:35), I accidentally left the Imperial/Clone order graphics. This should have been "Aggression" for Shadow Collective and "Roger Roger!" for the Separatists.
Star Wars Legion battle report, 800 pt battle between the Shadow Collective and the Separatist Alliance.
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[@lawsonkenny2964]

Love those BX’s with shields, they make hardy little shooters

[@darthmaulkiosk]

At 11:34: models are taken off the table to assist in measuring the move, but not all models are returned to the unit. That unit has only 4 models for the rest of the game. They probably could have held out a little longer against the magna gaurds later.

[@Halfling13]

reviewing the video, I believe you right. the overhead at 12:16 does not show the 5th model in white still with the unit, so I expect the player missed it. it would have helped, though with Cad Bane's mine, they were already at a disadvantage.

[@darthmaulkiosk]

At 43:10: looks like some weird stuff going on with the black sun attack. The unit has 4 models but only attacks with three of them. Also, the unit starts its activation with one aim token but uses two when it makes the attack.

[@Halfling13]

I agree with the missed attack dice - if I recall correctly, this was one of the scatter guns (which would have added 2 red and pierce), but even if this was just the 4 man Black Sun unit, it should have added another black and white. I attribute this to gamer frustration/distraction and an inability to count models. I can't account for the extra aim, the unit does not have Steady and did not have the actions for another aim. However, our discipline on clearing the dice trays is frequently lacking, so my assumption is that this was a left over aim from a prior unit, that mistakenly got counted for the unit. Somewhat mitigates the other noted lack of model errors, but definitely an error.

[@Halfling13]

spoke with the player - the second aim appears to be legitimate. 1 Aim due to Independent: Aim, and 1 due to the Aggression card - they issued less ordered, and gave a bonus aim to that unit. Didnt pick it up on the camera, since it was during the order card phase

[@Halfling13]

scratch that, the active order was Marked for Elimination, not Aggression. back to being a mistake :)

[@darthmaulkiosk]

The Shadow Collective player deployed one unit of Black Sun incorrectly. The list breakdown shows only one 4 man unit. It looks like either the proxy unit or the unpainted unit are missing a model.

[@Halfling13]

good eye for detail - yes, I can confirm, our game judge (who pulled the proxy models) miscounted, and missed one of the models, handicapping the Shadow Collective a little. That was corrected in our next battle report with this army.

[@Gusmil89]

Nice jest at reveal cards at turn 3. Didn't know I was watching empire and clones. Oh by the way, danger sense gives you: "you may" remove suppression after roll or at end of round. So if he wanted to keep the 2 suppression he could.

[@Halfling13]

Most certainly an editing mistake, thats what I get for using a template. Those orders should have been Aggression and Roger Roger!.

[@trabi9722]

Just saw at 11:55 an illegal unfair move. A blank to hit without any reason. I would say the separatist player didn't do that on purpose, but seems a bit sus to me

[@Halfling13]

definitely an illegal dice adjustment, but I attribute it to a brain malfunction rather than direct intent. We had actually spotted that before it was published, but by our tournament rules, we want the viewers to call them out to avoid bias.

[@TheBossmarvinc]

The strategize keyword is range one only. The number is how many units get aims and dodges. A couple of times it appears to be done at range 2 throughout the game.

[@Halfling13]

That definitely sounds like an error on the Separatist side. Can you give me the time code for one or two examples?

[@TheBossmarvinc]

​one at 32:06

[@TheBossmarvinc]

Looks to be out of range for at least the b1 and possibly the B2 though I can't be sure based on the angle

[@TheBossmarvinc]

53:50 is also close though that one may actually be in range

[@Halfling13]

yep, i would agree with you, definitely a broken rule. That may just swing our tie in the Separatist favor

[@Gusmil89]

About the displacement cohesion question... Page 35. "Step 1 place displaced miniatures to the side [...]. -> If

[@Halfling13]

after much debate, that is ending up as the interpretation of our group as well. Though some viewers have had alternative interpretations.

[@Gusmil89]

@@Halfling13 always going to happen. 😁

[@TheBossmarvinc]

This could/ would fall under margin of error and or pre game discussion. Trooper units bases can't overhang so the supercomandos placed on the tower and the magna droids placed on the stairs may not have been legal placements. Again depending on pregame discussion and margin

[@Halfling13]

yep, we discussed that specific case both before and during the game. Our group ruling is that we are playing to the intent of the terrain - so overlapping is valid if the model logically should be able to stand there (such as on stairs or balconies). For terrain that is more challenging (the rough top of the tall building), the players agreed it was valid, but we will likely make it invalid in future games

[@Gusmil89]

Psst... Bx have sharpshooter 1 @ 46:11, so no heavy cover.

[@Halfling13]

good catch, definitely a mistake. not sure if we count that as an error against the Shadow Collective for defining cover poorly, or as a missed opportunity against the Separatists for not using one of their abilities.

[@Gusmil89]

Hey ... Is it editing issues or why does cad bane play his 3 pip turn one when he obviously used the dilvuged part, which is before deployment phase. (editing wont tell if he put down tokens first before you deploy either, so i have to ask).Which means the card is already spent before turn one reveal command cards.

[@Halfling13]

Yes, Cad Bane used the Divulge action, and placed the 3 hidden tokens on the board. He didnt show up until round 2, about in the middle, and his bomb was set off a short bit later due to some rather bad planning on the Shadow Collective part. The card was played during turn 1 due to the text - "Place three Bane tokens on the battlefield... This card must be selected during round 1". Even though it doesn't do anything extra during the first turn

[@Gusmil89]

Yeah, you are correct i agree i slip on the text on the card, but I was also wondering if you did the tokens in right timing "at the start of the Deploy Units Step". :) ... Also im pretty sure you meant he showed up at start of round 2 and not during the round as he is required to be revealed of his controlling player (if he so desires) before command cards are played, or by the enemy walking up Line of sight to the token from range 1, which did not happen. Also bonus trivia either way of these reveals will not prevent independent keyword so he gets 2 dodges, which seems to be missing.@@Halfling13​

[@oldvacher]

Wich magnet are stick under thoses minis? Are they working well? I've tried some, some too strong, other not enough.

[@Halfling13]

I use 6X3 mm rare earth a.co/d/4LLuwmd for all my figures under the base. One for troops, several for larger models. They are solid, but I don't find them too strong except for b1 droids and similar thin models

[@oldvacher]

@@Halfling13 I tough at 3 mm it would be deeper than the base of the classic trooper. Thanks

[@Halfling13]

they might be ever so slightly too thick, but nothing that causes any issues. and the next size at 2mm I would be concerned about the hold.

[@TheBossmarvinc]

When promoting a unit to commander the order token they have is replaced with a commander token. So the supercomandos should have had a commander token not a special forces at the end of the game.

[@Halfling13]

That one is a common process error we make - we catch that a field commander is promoted, but we seem to always forget to substitute the command token itself (and how it effects specific cards and abilities)

[@anthonyrodgers-rf2cm]

That was really hard to watch.

[@Halfling13]

I am assuming you are referencing the dismantling of the Shadow Collective by the Separatists, for which I have to agree. We specifically try to avoid extra guidance and suggestions during the game, and this was particularly hard given some of his choices. Cad Bane's bomb in particular will be remembered for a while.

[@anthonyrodgers-rf2cm]

Yes that is what I was referring to.@@Halfling13