Star Wars: Outlaws Quadruple-A Swimming Physics

[@iknowurip8151]

"Hmm yes we should place a 70$ price tag on this." -Ubisoft executives

[@bladedoom1833]

*130$ for early 3 days then reset their progress ! 😉

[@prognosticii]

They spent money making the game, you should cover part of that cost.

[@Zekium]

*110$

[@s.......]

​@prognosticii ah what money

[@NikTek]

130$ for those who want to play it early too and then their saves would get deleted on day-one due to a patch

[@GarlMemory]

"You may not like it, but this is what peak AAAA gaming looks like." -Ubislop

[@Dexter01992]

The A's at this point represent the amount of screams I want to let go by looking at the state high budget gaming development market.

[@Yeahimman32]

Ubislop

[@machinedieselx4767]

Ubislop is the greatest insult to come outta this game release. Its perfect. Im seeing it everywhere. Everyones calling them Ubislop 🤣

[@theman47145]

This is a C-tier mass produced rush job as usual by Ubisoft.

[@swapnil3990]

Ubistop

[@RedzaMalaysianCrossover]

So basically "quadruple A" game meaning you can't swim. Yes, including Skull and Bones too.

[@anotherlover6954]

Is that what the 4th "A" is for? It's a triple A game "And you can't swim."

[@isaacnikolic5895]

​@@anotherlover6954 😂

[@k.h6635]

A stand for Abysmal

[@orbit1894]

MINUS quadruple "-AAAA"

[@anonisnoone6125]

I really don't think not being able to swim is as big of a deal as the other problems the game has. U can't swim in ER either yet u don't see anyone shitting on it despite it being a AAA game.

[@Manjawline]

Back when Ubisoft put passion into their game development

[@necroheartplucker]

Well...kinda. Original Assassin's Creed game creator was kicked out illegally by Ubisoft during or after AC Brotherhood, as the big corp wanted to make an infinite number of AC games while the creator only wanted to have a few number of them. So even if there is passion from the devs, it turned into a lie thanks to Ubisoft. AC Black Flag was already an Ubisoft evil corp production instead of passionate devs' production.

[@themchannel853]

I'm not sure if passion is always what drove them before, but greed is certainly the word of the day as financial success is always the goal, and once they got it they only wanted more.

[@RandomizedYoutuber012]

Different devs Different story tellers Different leads Different company

[@JustAPintOfMilk]

Unity followed soon after, which made me quit the enitre series till this day

[@abhi.dx2345]

​@@necroheartpluckerwhat nonsense are you even blabbering! AC black flag is truly a passion project. It goes on till ac origins. Damn kids like you shouldn't even be playing games

[@rabeerajput1343]

That water physics in Black Flag was amazing. One of the best gem in Assassin Creed franchise.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

Because they were large part of the game. All ubisoft game engine use havok.

[@dovahkiin2108]

​​@@arenzricodexd4409waah, waah, waah

[@CodeShortsExclusive]

​@@arenzricodexd4409but the latest pirate game they released you cant even swim ?

[@arenzricodexd4409]

@@CodeShortsExclusive that most likely done on purpose to restrict player to do certain things. Developer specs ops the line for example said they got certain ideas they want to implement in their game but in the end they have to can it because of multi player aspect of the game.

[@SD-rp8zm]

Black flag doesn't have water physics lmao. That game is trash too, Star Wars outlaws is just worse. Red Dead and gta have water physics.

[@HighWhileGaming]

This game should be considered a scam with the price of $70-$130

[@Loopylocokiller]

Especially when you don’t even OWN it after paying $130

[@cze7470]

The Price Tag is just a Social Experiment to Test how much Money People are willing to pay to Torture themself.

[@bsherman8236]

But if you don't buy you are a bigot

[@Mythicalgoon]

Buddy, that's why it's priced so high. Because of they priced it at 40 people would still wait for a sale. Low-key 200iq

[@ForWhomBellstols]

It is scam, I'm having fun playing wukong it's bit unpolished but costs 60$

[@MRworldEtIkA]

"we need to make a game" "i want to make a game" based on these two sentences, which one do you think will make a better game.

[@ngoclamtruong5033]

these two can still seem similar depend on the context "we need to make a game" could mean that a bunch of people need to make a game just to fill a contract, or they could just be a bunch of people with the same passion feel like they need to create a big shot so they could kick start their career "I want to make a game" could mean that a company executive want the studio to make a game, but its could also mean a developer want to create a game in their vision

[@sandcrakes]

​@@ngoclamtruong5033 Great perspective 👍

[@MRworldEtIkA]

@ngoclamtruong5033 holy shit nice one brother.

[@joshujo]

😊​@@ngoclamtruong5033

[@R3TR0J4N]

form Mirage, Skull & Bones, to Starwars Outlaws. can't believe theyre that complacent enough that implementing the same mechanic they already had is an impossible task.

[@ApsmneShsbshu]

It’s a different engine. You can’t just port over mirage swimming

[@chillhour6155]

Soo swimming tech lost ?​@@ApsmneShsbshu

[@faidzeelhisyamhattar2133]

But they have no qualms about stealing banners from History Reenactments Groups.

[@faidzeelhisyamhattar2133]

@@ApsmneShsbshu Shows how competent the new hires working there, now that those that are able to create games are all gone.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

They somehow managed to have swimming all the way back in Assassins Creed II. Shows how far they've regressed.

[@str1xt]

Lara croft could dive gracefully and swim underwater in 1996

[@AndrewTSq]

Even the later Tomb Raider games (the gameplay in star wars looks a lot like a Tomb Raider game actually) is way better, with better graphics I would say.

[@machinedieselx4767]

Laura will never go near water again. God forbid she be seen in a bathing suit or even a skin tight divers suit. Imagine the Reeeeeing in the dev studio if she even looked remotely femenine.

[@TheHardStyleLife]

It also played like ass compared to mario 64 with those tank controls.

[@str1xt]

@@TheHardStyleLife 102 M console to 30 M sales. Ill leave it there. PS was a far superior product in every way.

[@rodafowa1279]

@@str1xt So, sales mean everything, now? I guess Wukong is one of the best games to ever be made, then.

[@dannyrpt]

"Open World Game" my ass😂😂

[@IMGNFUN]

Black Flag standing as the GOAT Ubisoft game.

[@AndreyStevn]

I heard they're working on a remake/remaster thing, now I'm afraid they make it like these new 2024 titles

[@armaghanaziz6627]

its best in ac francshise but for talking about the whole ubisoft that would be pop trilogy

[@Gakki_Aniki]

@@AndreyStevn yeah they 100% gonna ruin it if a remake comes out

[@Ghost-pb4ts]

Mc would be gay Map will filled with diverse characters​@@AndreyStevn

[@Notabot101]

Glad that was the most recent I bought 😅

[@YashimaTameyoshi]

Remember guys a mobile game studio created Black Myth Wukong as their first AAA game and big multi million dollar company made this just think about it

[@myrkr_]

I second this with Lies of P. Fantastic game.

[@YashimaTameyoshi]

@@myrkr_ True an unknown gaming studio delivering the best souls like game besides FromSoftware

[@AndrewLewer90]

Which means this was done on purpose. No way a studio behind The Division 1 & 2 is suddenly incapable of developing a AAA game.

[@eradicatedpulse6896]

You can’t even swim in Black Myth and it’s full of Invisible walls. It only looks triple A because of the Unreal Engine

[@farmerobi]

Same with Stellar Blade

[@IzzyKilgore]

This feels like a Looney Toons skit where Edward is just casually swimming across the ocean with no restrictions and Kay Vess is finding all these wacky ways to at least get into the water without respawning. I was expecting her to have rockets tied to the boots at the end, for a last effort.

[@Apocalypse33]

They are hiring game developers from the university of walmart

[@thunderheadcinema6743]

It's not the dev's family they aren't given the time or manpower they need

[@tessa63627]

Yeah it's definitely the guys running the thing. Feel kinda bad for the devs. Advertising is getting ridiculous too. AAAA my ass

[@el-_-grando-_-_-scabandri]

They are hiring game developers from the university. Simple as THAT. There are university courses specifically teaching "games design" these days, whereas the old boys were mavericks making it up as they went along, relying on their own creativity and problem solving skills rather than what they've been taught by someone else. There was no course that taught the makers of Fallout 1 and 2 how to make games. They were programmers and artists who were creating it from scratch with not much predating what they were making. Nowadays there's over 30 years predating today's games and AAA games are in a rut of treading familiar ground and taking no risks. To take one example, this is the reason all inventory screens look the same now, because designers are taught to make "UX" by people who tell them "do it this way" and "don't do it this way" and then mark them pass or fail based on how closely they follow the lessons. Remember when some of the soyboy games devs got upset because Elden Ring didn't follow the rules? This is why. The employees and execs have all changed, from artists to designers to producers and even programmers. The change is so drastic that they take for granted what would have been unthinkable 20 years ago.

[@leatherDarkhorse]

as i know, most of the old dev already left

[@thedoomtrainer8292]

​@@el-_-grando-_-_-scabandriFabulously worded

[@Dat_Jonx]

That animation loop is on a level of a student Unity project, lmao.

[@blazeiii7388]

For anyone who's wondering, "How far can you, just swim away from the ship in Black Flag" Well I tried to find the answer myself, and the answer was. "Pretty much the whole map". Not EXACTLY, but I know I did swim half across the map and, due to my low IQ, boarded a ship and killed everyone on board. (making the Jackdaw teleport to me "or the other way around) The things is saw was glitching out was the weather system (or Edward is just build different, because the man tanked a few tornados), and I found out that, the tornadoes do indeed come on land. (at least on the small scattered out islands) The mini map's textures was glitching out and making these void pockets and sometime a few artifacts.(Obviously from the fact that the mc is floating 500miles away from land) Aside from all that, the game was perfectly fine. All I heard was the sea waves and wind crashing into my face while trying to avoid the giant rain cloud. Here's a guy who DID swim across the whole map. (I think, I didn't watch the whole video, But props to the guy) "kzbin.info/www/bejne/harCZ3yMasSUfqs"

[@riven4121]

The way Outlaws barely looks any better than AC Black Flag lol

[@ninpgmer8959]

Just a reminder you can swim in Ocarina of time, a 26 year old game. Let that sink in.

[@nyanbonecrush]

No, sinking in is what outlaws did

[@francescofioroni70]

You can't swim in Elden Ring so what?

[@juniorloch4269]

@@francescofioroni70 And you couldn't swim in dark souls or other previous soulslike fromsoftware titles too, but in the case of ubislop, you could swim in assassins creed blackflag, but not in more recent titles like skull and bones and starwars outlaws.

[@francescofioroni70]

@@juniorloch4269 makes no sense lmfao! You can swim in Assassin's Creed so by your logic you should supposed to swim in the other recent game Prince of Persia The Lost Crown? What is your reasoning. I swear Ubisoft haters are brain dead

[@dinoblacklane1640]

@@francescofioroni70 "Nooooo stoppp bullying the muti-billion dollar company !!1!"

[@mr.fading1793]

Thank you Mr.Ubisoft !

[@mahendrap1960]

1:52 Water physic were soo good back then

[@wizzenberry]

Its just a height map, horizon forbidden west waves would make you explode

[@CyanRooper]

What's sad is how people nowadays seem to dismiss water physics. Back in the day, gaming studios used to actually show off how good their water physics and reflections were, now people are like "bruh, who cares if the water physics in a big budget game are ass, the story is all that matters" and whatnot.

[@fashyakupercent20]

"Back then" .... Why that sounds very sad at least for me. If we think logically, game should've been getting more realistic and advancedn, but this atrocius $70 scam is the standard nowadays. Thats why i always appreciated when games like BM wukong or Stellar blade comes out. These western devs need a big reality check

[@Webhead123]

"Hey, McFly, you bojo! Those boards don't work on water!"

[@raptorshinryu]

90 percent of the water in Outlaws looks like an unpatched bug

[@geronimo3451]

you can clearly see that Ubisoft games focus on maximum profit instead of maximum quality

[@gavinjrdn]

After Black Myth, This is going backwards!

[@DocLunger]

Going backwards is actually good for Ubisoft. They’ve only gotten worse going forward.

[@necroheartplucker]

One rule of thumb for me is, never ever compare an Asian game to a Western AAA game. Their differences these days will always be night and day.

[@themchannel853]

*Monkë game

[@souvikmondal6161]

Monke always better

[@konradvos288]

This is going backwards by the standards of games that came out by the same studio 20 years ago

[@tea345]

In Black Flag when you walk from the beach into the sea and the water is up to your waist, Edward lowers/opens his arms and lets the water slide through his arms while you continue walking. Like he is one with the environment. I still remember I was very fascinated by that even if its a small detail

[@alphasierrabravo5905]

Star Wars 1313 died for that SLOP

[@Myyra-games]

A LONG TIME AGO the swimming wasn't invented yet

[@Iain_Metcalf]

So what was it that Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon were doing to get to Jar Jar's underwater city?

[@KaranBenchmarks]

niktek got some food!

[@daftcat7]

If you still don't know how to but Ubi games, you wait a year after it releases and only after 30 patches decide to buy or not

[@QTMagic]

You forgot that you could swim underwater using the diving bell.

[@jeczsz]

jesus water walking quintuple a game

[@aborkmga1]

Guy's i think the layoffs of old devs with alot experience hit alot of the west company i mean it's wild when you see old game from the same company with alot of attention to detail unlike new games from the same company

[@recht_voor_zijn_raap5506]

00:15 Someone has a Jezus complex

[@SteinerArts]

Ubisoft trying their best/most desperate not to get taken over by Tencent.

[@JohnDoe-gq9hp]

This happened after big companies did the massive layoffs, they fired their own veteran game programers and designers, we see these on many big game companies

[@paperluigi6132]

Kinda a poor comparison, since not all games let their protags swim. Still, water physics are much better in AC.

[@muhammadsoman54]

Add subsurface scattering and AC odyssey waves to it and blackflag would honestly be the closest thing to AAAA from ubisoft.

[@DanicusRex-m1m]

Im convinced large budget media projects like this and amazon's lord of the rings show are just some kind of money laundering scheme

[@GustavoEBarriga]

I like your determination on the. "LOL see that, let's keep making fun of this sht"

[@chillhour6155]

This generation of game developers sure are talented and passionate

[@Andriej69]

Having a field day with this one, huh?

[@AdeDestrianto]

skellige memories kicks in. when I have to swimming in the middle of skellige sea because the boat sunken by sirens. ah good old days

[@TehReasoning]

0:51 This is absolutely lazy 2024 and this what they spent money on unbelievable

[@npcRegard]

Those who worked on Black Flag must feel so proud now that its being used as a benchmark to measure the quality of new games.

[@arl-t8d]

0:33 LMAO, this shit looks like Unreal Engine third person camera demo player controller

[@nawnaw4709]

Greed ruins everything

[@noahfessenden6478]

Remember on the Kashyyyk Docks map in Battlefront (2004) when speeders would hover seamlessly between land and water? 20 years of innovation I see.

[@Kijiko_]

Why is it that Kay Vess, a person who had never left their home town on a desert planet, cannot swim?

[@JC.CopyCrea]

You mean Obi-wan Dykenobi cannot swim

[@SuwinTzi]

Massive is the studio for Outlaws. They last made The Division 2. Ubisoft Quebec has been in charge of Assassin's Creed. That being said, Ubisoft hates you, the customer (you're not a consumer, they're not entitled to your money).

[@DJL3G3ND]

god that game over screen is painful. if they really dont want you going out there Id honestly prefer an invisible wall over getting my hopes up like that

[@raptorshinryu]

It's bizarre because the water in Outlaws looks like the water puddles in the Division just stretched across entire lakes without any up-scaling to the ripple effects or changes to the speed of ripples moving across the surface.

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

Wow. The water material used is like the unaltered water template in Unreal. With no splash particles even programmed in.

[@meikisaragi1445]

Back when I was a kid, if ubisoft is in the intro, it's usually a good game.

[@Crashed238]

All I'm learning from these Quadruple A titles is that they're just flat scams.

[@emilefoxhall3155]

Lmao I just choked on a shitake mushroom from laughter of this video. Thank you 😊

[@ethanhoerr2924]

I love that Black Flag is still the measuring stick for how good water physics are.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

The focus was put a lot on that since it is large part of the game. Technically all ubisoft games should be able to do similar water physics as black flag. All of them are using havok.

[@venator5]

Water in Black flag: Part of the nature, our living environment. Water in Outlaws: Deadly abyss.

[@TheRealJochen]

Well yeah, shes literally never seen a body of water. Of course she cant swim

[@ClayWheeler]

According to the devs defense, the keyboard they're using for programming Star Wars Outlaw doesn't have CTRL C and CTRL V. So it became impossible to clone the source code 😂

[@twyx6928]

Comedy writes itself, right under this video I have a recommended Digital Foundry review titled "Star Wars Outlaw - The High-End Graphics Experience"

[@nightmare674]

I stopped playing videogames around 2015 and somehow I feel I could have seen these games in the xbox 360

[@alphasierrabravo5905]

Don't forget that Black Flag also had UNDERWATER missions and content.

[@9f81rsd00]

Confirmed Outlaws MC dissolves instantly in water.

[@yosegaman]

I love the sea in AC odyssey, so much life in it when you are under water ^^

[@misteryamato]

A game about pirates on a ship surrounded by water vs a alien shooter game with water out of map bounds

[@Soulkey_sbr]

Outlaws jumping into water = *Groundhog Day* ....everything just resets

[@SpecterSensorial]

We cant even see the character die anymore, just because is a WoMEn 😂😂😂😂

[@45545videos]

I see they took a hint from Cyberpunk's launch and just didn't add swimming, despite there being swimmable water.

[@muhikhsan2567]

They probably prepare swimming mechanics in the sequel.. Most of developers did this

[@pro2a693]

yep and they will charge it will their greedy dlc

[@starscream4652]

Seems like : The protagonist gained speed boost in water than in land...truly game changing AAAA exp.

[@NotReallyLaraCroft]

Well, Outlaws isn't set around water. Not a good comparison here

[@callmejoe4773]

She uses the force to Sprint on water

[@mrdato116]

I need to replay Black Flag.

[@dannybauman1454]

I played Ever Quest. Came out in 2001. At least my game had fish and you could swim underwater.

[@shirokaminokageyami]

They seriously place an Open World category on Outlaws is hilarious

[@DocLunger]

Ubisoft used to shared the same love as the fans for their games. It’s like they are intentionally trying to get shut down.

[@pedrobrazon6610]

The Chad Edward Kenway vs the Virgin Kay Vess 😂

[@chillhour6155]

They really are still firm in they're beliefs that they can lower our standards instead of just being the same that they have been a decade ago

[@pyrophobia133]

better question to ask is: why they make Outlaws using Snowdrop instead of Anvil, using Anvil would probably allow the devs to reuse some stuff instead of making it from scratch again...

[@fruitcake4910]

AAAA because you want to scream at your screen and destroy it with your controller aaaaaaaaaa!

[@TrueTrickster2016]

Falling in the water from Star Wars reminds me of the Ultimate Spider-Man game, which came out in 2005.

[@pablitus44]

that end I was waiting for the shark attack

[@Esfyxian]

Black flag is black magic at this point on how it still plays and looks that good.

[@shawziiz5031]

First Skull and Bones, now this Star Wars Outlaws. When you realized Ubisoft been wasting money creating this two "AAAA" game only for it to unintentionally promoting Assassin's Creed Black Flag instead. Those two "AAAA" game really exist to make people want to replay Black Flag again, or better for someone who never play Black Flag to go to try it. Seriously, if you never play Black Flag, do yourself a favor and go play that masterpiece right now!

[@WatchtowerSeven]

I've walked in ankle-deep water before. Trust me, you wouldn't be running at the speed she is now.

[@tinypixiebread]

So.. a mercenary live in a harsh life of Star Wars can not swim.

[@Ayogambar62]

Now, Ubilost was crying in the corner. 😂😂

[@mr.mostwanted6389]

I cannot believe that you can actually die from touching the water this deep 😭 Ubisoft forgot how to swim

[@ananyadas6905]

To be honest its not that bad of a game as ppl are saying.... its a decent game.....

[@macadaca7038]

If I’ve learned one thing from this channel, its that if you make a Triple A game it needs to be better than Assassin’s Creed 4: Black Flag

[@rafaelafonso1597]

"_____ can't even swim" Jill 😂

[@Frogieder]

Reminds me of good old AC1 where you couldn't swim either

[@henryfreundt9197]

Well to be fair one is a game that spends most of it's time in the water, and the other one in space, but still good point

[@manarya190]

see you in 7 years when people start saying "oh I grew up playing this it was so awesome"

[@jimmydishkawnt]

Devs probable explanation: "But the water on other planets is acid" 😅

[@Bihaidi]

Going to paris this week and was hoping to vist their office give them the middle finger, but their office is so far from the center that i aint going to bother with that, o how the mighty have fallen

[@kanrakucheese]

Their French translations of the old Might and Magic blobers were all broken in ways that say they never playtested them at all (game critical riddles were either never changed to a French language answer, or the parser wouldn't accept accented characters despite the answer demanding them). They were *never* a good company.

[@corruptangel6793]

To this day, I've never finished Black Flag. I spent all my time treating it as a pirate simulator and exploring. I must have put nearly a hundred hours into that game, and I have 0 memory of the story.

[@IronSquid501]

Ubisoft AAAA game "don't flop" challenge (impossible)

[@johnnywaffles2482]

I remember the spiderman 2 game for GameCube in like 2005 that had the same thing happen when you jumped in the water

[@cze7470]

Damn, you can't even swim in the Game... GTA3 atleast had a Death Animation.

[@RunCryLuv]

Truly a game of this year