Star Wars Outlaws vs Starfield - Which Game is WORSE?

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[@mavplayzgamez3186]

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[@GarnetPawn]

Starfield: can be modded into shrek swamp Outlaw: can’t be modded into shrek swamp The winner is clear to me.

[@Fabulous-Spider]

I mean your not wrong

[@blockmasterscott]

Modding is a big requirement for me in today's games.

[@PhillipOnTakos]

I personally never think modding should be a positive in the games favour. I bought a game for what was made. If I can add mods to it, cool. It can add spice to a game I already loved, make a game I've played for years feel new again. If the game sucks on it's own why should I care about mods? Why should it be up to fans to fix the game? I'm not defending either game. They both suck but I don't think that mods should be a defense for any game. It's like saying a fan re-edit of a movie makes it better. Sure it's cool that fans took the time to make it better. Doesn't make the official product I purchased and played/watched first any better. Just means I gotta go through extra steps someone else made to make it good.

[@GarnetPawn]

@@PhillipOnTakos it’s positive when the game is good. I’m not trying to defend a mess that is starfield.

[@PhillipOnTakos]

@@GarnetPawn That was my point in a long winded explanation. Starfield shouldn't be given any bonus points for mods. I've been sick of the excuse for Bethesda games being fixed by mods for over a decade. Sorry if I sounded rude.

[@KyleTaylorDesigns]

Mass Effect Andromeda is starting to look not that bad by comparison.

[@xXxXxEmoSasukexXxXx]

*Thanos Voice* Perhaps I was to harsh on you...

[@Heartshapedbox81]

No no, I think you need to go and have a lie down, your face must be tired.

[@OMGmyFACE]

When a 1/10 starts looking like a 2/10.

[@nickochioneantony9288]

I just realized that ME Andromeda might be the first game pioneering Woke implementation. Just look at the haircut, DEI companion, the illustration of 1.000 year lifespan species as a yandere, and purposefully creating dialogues for Modern Audience.

[@peteramaranth85]

i love mass effect andromeda

[@DjPolo-f2d]

"Starfield, its better than Star Wars Outlaws". Bethesda's next marketing campaign.

[@Hauerization]

🤣

[@mejrikais6002]

Both sucks

[@damonbeza3767]

At least in starfield, you can actually be an outlaw.

[@stellarhyme3]

No you can’t. You can’t do anything bad. You’re just an errand boy for each faction. You’re not an outlaw at all.

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

@@stellarhyme3 clearly somebody has never done the Crimson Fleet questline

[@jetsetradio7715]

Crimson Fleet questline was the only slightly enjoyable questline in the game, I also did enjoy the Ryujin questline at times but not to much. Overall though the game is bad, I could tell you the names of many New Vegas characters but only 2 come to mind with Starfield it's just a very forgettable RPG.

[@calluxdoaron1903]

@@GenericUsername-qp1ww he's not completely wrong - 80% of companions, not counting basic hired one, all have good morale and leave you the moment you do something criminal (Bosco is good, tho). Also there is no real violence from bandits, pirates, varuun too.

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

@calluxdoaron1903 the companions could b better that much is true, and what do u mean there is no violence from those factions? Only one if the factions u can have as allies the CF

[@NalonB]

Starfield isn't bad nor good, and that was the biggest issue. For a game that was in development for years, advertised as "Space Skyrim", it failed to satisfy that itch. So what do players do? They move on to find something that does. Probably went back to Skyrim.

[@JahonCross]

Starfield is mediocre at best

[@GA-br8wj]

It is extremely boring and annoying, also game mechanics are trash and at most times it is just an screensaver simulator, made me angry. The good thing is I "tried" it for free.

[@NalonB]

@@GA-br8wj I played it on Gamepass myself. Never bought a copy.

[@efxnews4776]

@@NalonB it's the worst Bethesda game ever made, not even F76 is all that bad (at least the lore is great). Also, Ubisoft should have done a remake of jedi knight series, engine would do great for that type of gameplay, heck, theres still folks who play Jedi Academy multiplayer even to this day...

[@Brandelwyn]

It is bad

[@Koomoa]

It kills me. She can sneak up on someone and then start punching them and the person doesn’t make any sound , so the person 10 feet away with their back turn doesn’t notice.

[@buckrodgers1162]

There was an actual fight in the parking lot of my apartment building two days ago. I was inside my apartment, about 50 feet away, and I could hear each punch landing. So yeah, that tells you how 'noticeable' punches are; Very.

[@frankieyamz]

kinda like every splinter cell/ assassins creed game, no?

[@leonsteinberg6965]

if find it so redicolous that this is one of the biggest critizism, in rdr 2 its impossible to really sneak

[@jesse76th96]

Almost every single stealth game

[@ThrobbGoblin]

Both games are a mess, but one of them at least lets me play the way I want to play. The other locks me into playing as a tiny woman, an outlaw that's incapable of doing anything illegal or immoral, in a completely sterilized version of my favorite childhood franchise. The winner is clear to me.

[@Brandelwyn]

There's no winners

[@skyriminspace]

@@ThrobbGoblin but once you know that, what's the problem? Just don't play it surely.

[@skyriminspace]

@@Brandelwyn i think the winners are the people who get the most enjoyment out of something.

[@ThrobbGoblin]

@@skyriminspace Yes, as I said, the winner is clear to me. And you're in the comment section on a video titled "Star Wars Outlaws vs Starfield".

[@skyriminspace]

@@ThrobbGoblin it's like saying football "locks me in" to kicking a ball about. If you'd rather bounce the ball with your hands, play basketball. I just don't know how "i tried this game & it wasn't for me" is considered a legitimate complaint. Not having a go at you specifically, it's everywhere underneath gaming related videos.

[@landismithCOJ]

Evil Dan commentary is necessary for this one.

[@tylertheguy3160]

I'm beginning to think I'm the only person that enjoyed Starfield.

[@zachwolfrom4522]

I liked Starfield too. We should to stick together.

[@Tggutz]

I played the game non stop the month it came out. I admit it's not perfect, but I can still enjoy it.

[@taiidaniblues7792]

There are always people who can enjoy any game. I loved Too Human. It is still an objectively awful game.

[@eodyn7]

Dan just has a hate boner for Todd Howard.

[@blockmasterscott]

Oh I love Starfield, I think it's a fantastic game.

[@iksarguards]

"You could swim as far back as Oblivion" try Daggerfall. It's been part of open world gaming since before the term "open world gaming" even existed.

[@OneWayTwoBrazil]

Starfield can be modded into the open world Star Wars game people wished Outlaws would be. Also, having access to more than one blaster is in of itself reason enough to skip on Outlaws.

[@SayMy_User_Name]

With every year that passes, cyberpunk just looks better and better when compared to its contemporaries

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

not really. Just a game CDPR lied about and simply delivered a generic action game you play thru once as it has WAY less replayability compared to Witcher 3 and is many things, but CP2077 is NOT an RPG

[@HyouVizer]

​@GenericUsername-qp1ww 2.0 revamp heavily changed gear, stats, build composition. Went from mild RPG mechanics to full blown RPG. Far more than Starfield, combat wise.

[@SayMy_User_Name]

@@GenericUsername-qp1ww lol I have 1300 hours in cyberpunk pal.. about 120 in the Witcher 3… cyberpunk is arguably the single most replayable game I’ve ever played .. it’s definitely the most replayable open world game I’ve ever played

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

@@SayMy_User_Name then you clearly havent played enough RPG's in your life, The Pickup is the only quest in CP2077 that is on the same level as the majority of the ones in W3. But hey, if CP2077 is the most 'replayable' game to you then its clear your standards for RPG's is so damned low to the point I'm not gonna try and convince you otherwise. You enjoy the prison-food slop that was CP2077, I'll go back to when CDPR knew what RPG's actually were and replay W3 for the 5th time

[@EnriquetheSquirrel]

There is no wrong answer here.

[@RedDelSol]

😂😂😂😂

[@Perkele_foxtrot_oscar_bravo]

The only answer of which is worse would be Starfield if you looking for an actual game play standpoint as well as story

[@NickJoeBeg]

I was so hyped for starfield i was going to get an xbox but as things went on i learned more i doubt id even get on sale on psn... Id try a demo still

[@Perkele_foxtrot_oscar_bravo]

@@NickJoeBeg the only way I got Star Wars Outlaws was through work, I can't justify the price point even though it's not that bad it's just still not worth that price to me

[@MattttMan]

​@@Perkele_foxtrot_oscar_bravomental retardation or bait

[@mohsenbayati3627]

These two games gave us the reason why Mass Effect didn't have space combat.

[@Sierraone1]

doesn't make sense to have space combat in ME, when you are not even playing as the pilot to begin with

[@mohsenbayati3627]

@Sierraone1 the main reason is that it generally sucks

[@TheDukeofMadness]

I didn't hate Starfield.

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

same, I didnt love it but the funny thing is people try and compare Cyberpunk to it yet unlike Cyberpunk, SF is an actual RPG

[@zazoreal5536]

​@@GenericUsername-qp1ww Delusional take. I didn't hate Starfield either..... still not a good game. You know what RPG stands for!? Role playing game! What do you do in Cyberpunk 2077? Think before you talk! Most Rpg's have a leveling system, skills and a sense of immersion....mmmh I wonder if Cyberpunk has that? Yes!

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

@@zazoreal5536 "What do you do in Cyberpunk 2077?" you get railroaded. And you get railroaded HARD. Literally the ENTIRE game CDPR try to force you to like Johnny Silverhand, they shoehorn him into EVERYTHIG. Not only that but CDPR forgot what the term RPG means, they knew what one was with Witcher 3 but they forgot it by the time Cyberprank 2077 came out. I dont care that Johnny was voiced by Keanu Reeves, he constantly got on my nerves due to him appearing EVERYWHERE. Dont even get me started on the mindless "go here, kill this person/steal this item" gigs that CDPR spam you with. Literally the gigs were just those boring collection quests in MMO's, not only that but you get fuck all for completing them all. The only interesting side quest was the Peralez one which gets abruptly stopped and no real meaningful ending. There is literally NO reply value to CP2077, compare that to Witcher 3 where I played it 5 times as it actually has replay value.

[@bdleo300]

@@GenericUsername-qp1ww Cyberpunk is mediocre even with all patches. Initially everyone hated it, then suddenly some people started fanatically simping for CDPR again for some reason.

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

@@bdleo300 pretty much even after CDPR lied far more times in the marketing for CP2077 than Todd Howard has in his entire life. Seriously if you're gonna show a 'demo' with cutscenes then u completely gut the cutscenes from the game despite them being in the 40min demo full of lies. The lack of cutscenes made me not give a shit about V as he/she was just a voice. Imagine if BGS did the same thing and showed a bunch of cutscenes for a game they made only to remove them from the game. The CDPR fanboys would still be holding BGS feet to the fire for doing that but as far as the CDPR fanboys are concerned the rules they demand other game devs should follow CDPR shouldnt have to. Hell, the CDPR fanboys are the most immature people out there, I still remember when a IGN reviewer didnt give the game a 10/10 and complained about the braindance section causing her to have a seizure and so the CDPR fanboys sent her a bunch of messages with flashing lights trying to get her to have one for having the nerve to not rate the game as 10/10 I've said it a million times, the bugs and glitches with CP2077 were actually the least of my issues with the game, the issues I have with the game are parts they cant patch out; namely due to how much the plot railroads you so hard. Witcher 3 was buggy on release but underneath those bugs was an actual RPG. The same cant b said for CP2077. The funny thing is that despite Geralt being an established character with his own backstory filled out you could still play him as a asshole, there are no options for V to do so, just some slightly dickish dialogue options here and there

[@BahamutBreaker]

Star Wars Outlaws versus Starfield, which game is worse? Correct answer: yes.

[@evryfckinnameistaken]

Lol

[@AbhayRajan]

Cyberpunk's characters and NPCs feel way more alive than these two games.

[@bonnnetwork]

It's insane how we have come so far in the future in gaming. And not just that, but technology in general. And we haven't been able to develop an open world space RPG that is both seamless and alive

[@toshtao1]

Because it's a lot harder to make than a game like Cyberpunk that is just one city.

[@RitwickRazur89]

best start programming then boo

[@bonnnetwork]

@@RitwickRazur89 I actually am, get on Unreal Engine 5 and grind with me

[@awesomehpt8938]

At least in these games there’s no one going on about their face being tired.

[@paulhodgers]

I found It an ok game despite the shocking animations, and dodgy writing.

[@LeanFuture]

My face was tired after than line too….from lmao 😅

[@efxnews4776]

@@awesomehpt8938 Even with that sht writing and horrible animations, Mass Effect Andromeda was still better than this both games combined, specially in the gameplay aspect...

[@GodWorksOut]

Haven’t played outlaws yet, gotta wait til it’s almost free, but I did enjoy Starfield.

[@sagearmaggedon7307]

Take my word for it. The bad that has been shown with Outlaws is perception manipulation. Never seen bug montages for Witcher 3 and Baldurs Gate 3, and I have experienced more bugs in both of those games than Outlaws and Starfield. Outlaws, 20 hours in and not one bug yet. Game also has superior attention to detail, especially compared to previous ubisoft games.

[@farrelabrar529]

Perception manipulation? So the bug that I saw on many yt videos were edited?

[@sagearmaggedon7307]

@@farrelabrar529 Not necessarily. Those are bugs, 100%. But when you have a select group of people post videos about how horrendous the bugs are, it gives the perception that the game is extremely buggy on a consistent and large scale, and is not worth playing. Out of millions of people playing, there is always going to be a test case that undergoes a “lemon” situation, in which their product does not work as expected. No one posted videos about Baldurs gate 3 bugs, but my play through had enemies and allies getting stuck on doors, enemies being hit and flying above the map so you cant take them out with a long range ability, game breaking bug in act 3 that almost cost us our whole save(luckily we only lost a few hours), not being able to cycle through present enemies or allies to tell whats going on in combat, etc. Witcher 3 had Geralt swimming on land, riding roach upside down, invisible npcs, etc. You would swear from the reports though that those games were hyper polished.

[@zarthemad8386]

@@sagearmaggedon7307 ..... so it is perception manipulation to have several hours of footage of: - Braindead AI, that cant even react to the PC crouching behind a box with their bodies still clearly visible - a dainty 100 lbs anorexic woman(?) with a male face oneshot soldiers in armor with badly telegraphed hooks - throw gernades into static NPCs that are invincible and dont react .... let me guess... your a Kamala voter

[@jackhyatt7739]

Starfield is a sanitized G-rated game, but at least it was interesting and fun. Outlaws just looks bad and goofy

[@efxnews4776]

@@jackhyatt7739 nope, is not interesting or fun... Is boring and shallow just as Outlaws, for fk sake, Starfield just got a vehicle for exploration now! You know what? Mass Effect Andromeda was better than both this games combined...

[@jackhyatt7739]

@@efxnews4776 shooooooot idk about that, I think I put them both on the same tier. Well I will say that Andromeda at least had better companions and that’s not even saying much lol

[@TheParagonIsDead]

Sanitized? Since when did everything need to be rated r?

[@1doobiedoo]

Starfield NPCs felt like they were sedated with a mild opiate. It’s like they were afraid to show a range of emotion because their Creation engine face was incapable of expression.

[@TSmith-rl4xd]

I’m getting so tired of games coming out like in such a horrible state. I think the problem is they’re created by companies and not people who care about games

[@shaundensmith8938]

I actually reasonably enjoyed outlaws. It felt like the first time in a long time that someone at Ubisoft tried. granted they were trying to recreate uncharted in the star wars universe but they still tried.

[@clintbeastwood5116]

Starfield's biggest crime is that it is punishingly boring. Outlaws is a broken mess, but it is undoubtedly more entertaining when you exploit the bugs.

[@alibitter6361]

Riding the Mako looks like more fun than playing these games

[@BahamutBreaker]

Best comment in this column. Very underrated. The worst parts of 2010’s games (including vehicle combat in Mass Effect) make the GOOD parts of many modern games (Starfield, Outlaws, Redfall, etc.) seem TERRIBLE, by comparison. There is going to be a time, probably somewhere in 2030’s, when we all look back at the 2020’s as the “WTF were they thinking??” era of video games development.

[@zarthemad8386]

the Mako was a reasonable vehicle... the newer releases give it a bit more mass and torque or were you more of the "probe Uranus" type guy

[@therealMrA]

Riding the elevator in the Citadel is more fun than playing these games

[@Ksegger]

Starfield is far better simply because you have the ability to create a masculine male character and build your own ships

[@MeowtronStar]

By that logic, The Witcher 3 is worse because you can't create any character at all, like Outlaws.

[@Ksegger]

@@MeowtronStar Well, it just so happens to be that The Witcher 3 as an rpg and Geralt as a fictional character are my all time favorites. I even created Geralt as my character in Starfield

[@praetorrykard2242]

starfield far better because you can create a sexy and beautiful female character (i hope bodyslide and outfit studio comes soon)

[@Lorelai_AI_HQ]

Starfield, we didn’t know in advance Starfield would suck.

[@Medley3000]

It's like choosing between plague and cholera.

[@jamespope354]

I’m back on starfield after beating outlaws I dont get the hate from outlaws I do from starfield at launch but with the updates and DLC its pretty good now. I liked both anyway but I guess people cant enjoy games anymore or thats what the internet tells me🤷🏻‍♂️

[@ittylink]

Starfield is a Bethesda game and I expected as much, I actually expect Outlaws to not be ridiculous as it was.

[@DMT-ix9zj]

This is why we love your content not pulling any punches woohoo. So we know they won't be inviting you to the Christmas party. Great video

[@comyxcon4gaming860]

SW Outlaws: The MC looks like a dude and is perfectly capable of punching helmeted Stormtroopers without breaking her damn hand.

[@Chris.EP.95]

In conclusion: Just pick Mass Effect Legendary Edition or No Man's Sky.

[@mRibbons]

I got Starfield for free but feel entitled to a refund.

[@Vergil666.]

"We truly are in a race to the bottom with triple A games huh?" God that hit me hard. It's as depressing as it is true.....

[@jiffypoo5029]

I played Star Wars Outlaws for 10 hours and then went back to Starfield after installing some Star Wars mods. I'm 30 hours into a new Starfield playthrough because Star Wars Outlaws is so bad.

[@lucaskeane]

Kindom Come is still superior even been a 6 years old game and with it lower budget. The difference is the passion you put into when making a game.

[@Anthem76]

Starfield did not have a 5 minute long eating mini game

[@mejrikais6002]

Starfield did not have 5 minute long eating mini game but have millions of loading screen😮 useless boring dialogue and fetch quests both of them sucks

[@DMBLaan]

I've heard SW Outlaws has changed, or is planning to change, all the missions to remove the insta-fails. Make you wonder why they were there if they are changing it so fast

[@abrahambobst4602]

With how easy or Mary Sue the gameply is I am amazed they even have insta-fail missions.

[@vinnyverse]

Watching everyone hate Starfield while I absolutely love it and it’s my favorite game ever, is extremely hilarious lmao

[@ThousandairesClub]

*Starfield is great if you just started gaming in the past 4 years* 👍

[@zarthemad8386]

A solid 6.5/10

[@TheParagonIsDead]

I’ve been gaming since I was 5 and I still think Starfield is a spectacular game.

[@bdleo300]

@@TheParagonIsDead and now you're 6... Todd's adoring fan 😀

[@TheParagonIsDead]

@@bdleo300 I’ve been gaming for 10 years.

[@Ali-xx9iz]

Starfield is just boring, buggy and outdated however you can have a little bit of fun. Star wars Outlaws is not just outdated, boring or buggy it is completely unfinished, every single aspect and criteria is poorly executed. the Story is boring, the Graphics are terrible, I swear to God seeing characters having a conversation without moving their mouths or any other muscles is not acceptable for a AAA Game with a 70 bucks price tag and the resolution is at least 5 years behind. The Star Wars universe offers thousands of great weapons and Tools for great gunplay but all We get is one little blaster and some grenades and how are we supposed to fight stealthy if the enemies can spot us from 80000 Kilometers away. Why is it that Ubisoft has the urge to implement Dialogue choices in all of their games if the Players don't have to deal with the consequences of their actions and decisions. And why is this game even called "Outlaws"? Somebody should tell Ubisoft that being a Thief or hitman is completely different from being an Outlaw, if Kay/the player is only allowed to fight the empire or other gangs than they are nothing more than a rebel. An Outlaw by definition is someone who rejects Society and all of its laws, Rules and Ideologies and follows his own Rules and beliefs. Someone like Arthur Morgan who at the beginning of Red Dead 2 had no problems with killing and Stealing from normal civilians because he only cares for his gang/people and the only rule he lives by is "Survival of the fittest" Kay/the Player is never confronted with a moral dilemma because they are not able to commit actions that are morally questionable.

[@TheMarcHicks]

That's like asking if Syphilis or Gonorrhea is worse 😆.

[@Ava_vee]

i am never into spaceship games except the Deliver us from moon and Deliver us Mars. i think devs need to understand, gamers now adays are more into open world, Asian setting, or medieval, if not it should be like something sci-fi that's good and blended with a good gameplay and customization like Elden Ring or Horizon forbidden, or even a GTA like game, those are the games people will always biasedly like even the gameplay is not perfect, once a star wars or space-setting open world has a bad gameplay, most gamers won't like it and hate it. only few percent of gamers are into these kind of settings. the other half majority of star wars fans are not even playing games. devs need to realize this. i refunded this game after an hour

[@PvtSparkle]

Worst crime in Starfield, stealing something to eat. They will totally kill you for that...

[@adrian_veidt]

Starfield wasn't even that bad. It's outdated when I compare it to another shooter/RPG that I love, Cyberpunk. Disappointing maybe. But I can see the charm on it.

[@awesomehpt8938]

I think Star Wars outlaws would have performed better if it was a Han Solo game. I can believe Han knocking out stormtroopers with his fists more than a skinny girl at least

[@paulhodgers]

Doesn't help the argument if you're talking about punching an armored opponent, still restarted.

[@sagearmaggedon7307]

This type of nonsensical madness takes place in alot of games. Its a concession we deal with as a cost for the experience.

[@skyrimisforthenords8312]

I understand people's criticisms of es4 and 5, but im a big defender of them and i think despite bgs's faults they create some magic noone else really can. I was prepared to forgive alot and enjoy starfield for what it was, high hopes low low expectations. I hate starfield. I am still angry and disappointed and feel dumb for having any faith. Sw outlaws on the other hand.. it looked terrible from the get go, ive ascended beyond wasting my money on ubislop lol

[@Nglat2j]

Starfield has its issues but the hate is forced and clickbait

[@hungryburger1170]

People expected Bethesda from Starfield. People expected more from Outlaw.

[@wessel754]

I like the length of this video. It's a proper rant, but it's also not overstaying its welcome.

[@aofdemons5391]

Did Starfield was pretty good sure didn't have the mass Space Battles we wanted but it was still pretty good

[@User-s9r7x]

Never thought we’d see a game worse than starfield & yet outlaws managed to prove us wrong

[@Bateluer]

At least you can say Bethesda hasn't really evolved since Oblivion, and Starfield is essential Oblivion/Skyrim in space. But Ubisoft seems to be going backward, with each subsequent title being of lesser quality.

[@jannucius]

Sooner or later we gonna have terrible games awards, we're all this games will fight for not be first.

[@johnadamsgaming]

"...lore accurate Stormtrooper aim" Bahaha!!! Legit scream laugh there 🤣

[@mm-yt8sf]

it annoyed me in starfield that i couldn't fast travel to my main outpost that i visit dozens of time... out out drag..in in click..then "fast travel" can'ti bookmark the location?

[@greywarden3515]

This is why I don’t preorder/buy on release unless it’s GTA/Elder scrolls games

[@levvifortuun3258]

on the guns bit, gtav and their gun choices is pretty incredible. as a gta wannabe that outlaws is, its really disappointing to only have 1 pistol.

[@Cyryvy]

The "My sensors? Oh God" facial animation is nightmare inducing.

[@alexserban4034]

When you have to compare 2 pieces of dudu you have to start examining the dudu close and find the finesse of the dudu, you have to some extent feel the dudu. Seriously , they are both bad and don't deserve to be remembered.

[@THEchosenDIN]

Seeing the shit that is these two made me wanna replay Andromeda. Despite the mess it was at launch Idduno I kinda really enjoyed Andromeda’s gameplay loop, customization aesthetically and in powers, AND boy did the game’s world look pretty.

[@villings]

alright, but starfield has been "in development" (please note the quotes) for 25+ years what is _their_ excuse?

[@RandomMackem0069_Official]

I was able to play starfield longer than most cause I set a goal for something I wanted, which was to build a ship shaped like a hammer, which I succeeded in eventually

[@Zymemaru]

It's been 9 years since Metal Gear Solid 5 and no games have yet to build upon the stealth gameplay it perfected

[@davelangton1217]

I did enjoy most of the non-main quests in starfield. Except for the one where you need to switch back and forth between universes towards the end of the main story. Ubisoft has been turned all ofntheir games into a spin off of the same title.

[@stellarhyme3]

Both games are bad but Star Wars Outlaws is worse in my opinion. Neither are fun games to play.

[@--SHEPHERD-OF-MOTHER-EARTH--]

Both

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

Outlaws 100%, SF is just a single game on a new IP, Outlaws is an insult on a well-established and once beloved IP. At least in SF you can actually BE an actual outlaw in the Crimson Fleet

[@Shadowwand]

We need more of this. Which would you rather play?

[@momongaains3785]

I can’t replay, mass effect games I can’t remember where was I have too many characters I’m wondering how to go back to

[@StarWarsGeek_03]

I actually think that both the facial animations in both Starfield and Outlaws are actually still better than Andromeda’s facial animations but still pretty horrible

[@DV-ou1yu]

Nnnooooooo Andromeda beats out SF and sometimes Outlaws lol

[@Grandtemplar305]

At least in andromeda I was motivated to finish the story I wanted to save my sister but honestly I never got the chance to beat it 😂 an starfield only caught my interest was cuz I want a Mandalorian armor

[@jeffreymorse6015]

Not a fair thing to say considering a lot of people can't play Star field since it's not on all platforms.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Hmm. Was somehow rooting for Outlaws. Still, Jedi Academy, and in combination the rest of the Star Wars Dark Forces Saga, is the better outside of the two, in hindsight.

[@abrahambobst4602]

SWTOR is better than both.

[@michaelandreipalon359]

@@abrahambobst4602 Until its MMO servers are inevitably shut down, though.

[@ILL-TYPE]

Like many, I paid $100 to play Starfield early. I didn’t bother playing Outlaws. So, Starfield?

[@yoda3341]

At least Stsrfield had a soul and had decent AI. Outlaws AI sucks and they butchered Jabba in it

[@abrahambobst4602]

And Starfield AI can be improved with mods as well along with stealth.

[@djstef4549]

No it did not

[@bdleo300]

"Stsrfield had a soul" lol no. Strsfield did not have a soul. Extremely soulless game.

[@abrahambobst4602]

@@bdleo300 Starfield is very superficial is more than Fallout 4. Since Skyrim, granted some say their peak was Oblivion or Morrowind, but anyways BGS has been resting on their laurels and getting lazier and lazier along with losing ambition and passion. They need new blood preferably those not infected by modern ideology.

[@JAZ_2002]

Both? Both. Both is bad.

[@yoda3341]

Starfield? Starfield is superior

[@sagearmaggedon7307]

I think both are great

[@om58499]

@@sagearmaggedon7307well at least you enjoy them

[@bdleo300]

@@sagearmaggedon7307 "I think"? I doubt you can 'think' at all.....

[@sagearmaggedon7307]

@@bdleo300 My cognitive capabilities surpass most starfield haters, thats for sure…

[@BoyNextDoorGachi]

Dragon Age Veilguard is gonna be worse than both when it releases.

[@koammudo43]

Even an old PS1 game wouldn't make you use one gun the whole game 😭 that's crazzzyyyyy

[@awesomehpt8938]

Does anyone actually drink iced coffee?

[@coletrainhetrick]

Not only do I, I also absolutely loathe any coffee that isn't iced coffee

[@Zosima45]

Yes

[@sonnenblumefrau2048]

Me.

[@jonathanmoore8886]

More of a chug

[@OMGmyFACE]

Iced coffee is good.

[@RitwickRazur89]

bro starfield realistically simulates orbits and planetary motions, there are actual eclipses, if u use console commands to speed up time u can go from one planet to another , there are multiple videos by alanah pearce about it, there are multiple different encounters u can have with other ships, u can actually be a pirate and a smuggler (if u speck ur ship) ... u wanna shit on games atleast dont use lies

[@momongaains3785]

Do you play backgrounds games?

[@Hidden-Kard]

both are pretty lackluster but id be opposite to Dan when it comes which is worse. I found outlaws a little more interesting to explore and looking at visuals. Outlaws is visually better and in my own experience I didn't see or experience a Bethesda mountain of bugs in outlaws just really two and one of them was pretty funny

[@mercthejerk8945]

I turned starfield into a star wars game and it's actually pretty good now yall should look up Starfield Genesis star wars conversion mod

[@UnnamedThinkTank]

Starfield main quest has the same Bethesda problem. It sucks. And Bethesda are absolutely horrible in making proper RPGs. The factional storylines and side quests are so much more better. I mean "finished all the side quests first" was literally popularized by older Beth titles. It has a much more in depth crafting systems, from ships to making your own farms or resource mines. But those are add ons, if the main gameplay loop sucks, no one would care. But at least you can cite the other strong points as redeeming factors.... But Outlaws is even worse.

[@Ata.TeaGargler]

Couldn't agree more, for better or worse, space exploration in either game is pretty empty. I mean, I'm listening to this while currently surveying the Syrma system in Starfield

[@Biomancy]

Starfield isn't even that bad, it's just amazingly written games like Cyberpunk and Kingdom Come Deliverance have ruined the majority of rpg's for me.

[@Ronuk1996]

Kingdom Come, RDR2, San andreas, Skyrim, Bully, Fallout 3, Witcher 3 and New vegas have ruined most open worlds for me.

[@Biomancy]

@@Ronuk1996 you should try oblivion, the graphics are a little outdated but the writing and quest design is much better than Skyrim.

[@Ronuk1996]

@Biomancy Oblivion is amazing as is morrowind should have added them to ny list but was getting long.

[@GondorHorn]

Starfield wasnt bad but rather painfully average. A big "what if" game that I could still have fun with, outlaws on the other hand is just not enjoyable.

[@RpGfreak901]

At least Starfield lets you make your main character look appealing.

[@Clever_viper]

I played SF like for three hours and uninstalled it. I feel like I should give it another opportunity, but… the thought of going through those loading screens again, the boring space sections, and uninteresting quest hooks…

[@SistaCitizen]

You'd be surprised how those quest hook come back around if you play long enough. 2000 in NG plus 16 and still finding new things, and those earlier quests that I thought meant nothing.

[@PeferG17]

The Pirate quest in Starfield was not great but it was good enough to want to finish it... the rest of the game by comparison is a snorefest

[@dynaelder5037]

In fact since they have been rapidly cleaning up the bugs and balance stuff Outlaws is a pretty good game. Where as it takes Bethesda 6 months to fix one bug. Both games are well below the standard though and massively over priced.

[@yammt3148]

I don't think one is better than the other. They are both poster children for AAA failures. They both underwhelmed. They both aren't worth the $$$.

[@CurtOntheRadio]

One might imagine there are only a few games out there available. Instead of complaining about the same few games and developers folks (and reviewers) might do well to try something different - and direct their cash to smaller devs for something that is at least fun, interesting, novel, whatever.

[@spencev1765]

Lmao I love that Big Dan is shitting on these games

[@subjectdelta17]

I wouldn't call starfield a "bad" game, just very mid and outdated. Honestly, kudos to bethesda for getting space flight qnd vehicles working in the creation engine, never thought I'd see the day. And rpg wise, its better than fo4 and skyrim. Those games just had you going through dungeons and taking out enimes over and over again. Starfield actually have quests where you can talk your way out of situations Outlaws is just plain bad. Starfield wins here imo

[@1XDroidX1]

Starfield is light years ahead of Outlaws due to a huge head start with mods. Especially for patch fixes and STAR WARS mods ironically.

[@PhiladelphiaChurchIL]

Fuck me cuz I just rolled credits on SWO and I loved every second