StarCraft 2 Co-op: HAN AND HORNER Gameplay!

[@skylark306]

Another benefit for playing Stukov mech: Make ur ally more effective by saving their frame rate

[@DthAdv]

Fun fact: the chem trail of the diamondbacks is more detrimental to the frame rate than the mass marines. At least u won't be able to mass marines enough to mess up the frame rate until last 2 engagements. But with chem trails 12 is enough to make the FPS suffer.

[@skylark306]

Narx and that's the only two waves you actually need to micro

[@DthAdv]

Micro? with Stukov? What heresy is this?!!! Jokes aside I know what u mean. 2 Hybrid Dominators can wipe it all.

[@RealityBoy101]

@@DthAdv me who mass diamond backs *_sweating_*

[@Metalders]

A little extra you might've missed: each of Horner's air units has a unique name. I've only noticed the Battlecruisers so far, but it could happen with the Wraiths and Vikings.

[@dimbasz]

When they first introduced H&H with just few gameplay details I thought it's gonna be a Cho'Gall-like thing - one player controls only Mira's mercs, and the other - Horner's fleet. That would've been cool.

[@drew3n]

swann pair beautifully with these, the bonus gas, and science vessel supporting the galleons are op

[@harrisoncho3501]

I freaking love how Mira Han's units are like ranged banelings. Reapers death explosion deal shitload of AoE as long as you have other unit engaging enemy and preventing them from walking out of explosions.

[@TheNilar]

The mag mines are best used for defence for Han and horner only base defence are the missile anti-air turret.

[@Gabrielbarsch]

Mira Han's units are very fragile, you need to train more when they die over and over the thing about this commanders i liked the most was the ''mad max'' style on the structures and units definitely worth the purchase hope they add gabriel tosh as co-op commander next

[@thimuthnayanapriya580]

So u play dota , starcraft and million other games ive played? Aoe 2 too i guess

[@shayden598]

*my han and honer build:* depot into two assault gallions, after they finish produce like 4-5 reapers and kill the rocks (if there are rocks, if not just make a cc instead of the reapers and fly it over later on) expand and take double gas (at your main base) build 3 more galleons build armory as soon as you have 100 gas and after it finishes get a fusion core. upgrade all 5 galleons with assault drones. (super powerfull, they are like carriers, but even stronger ;)) get second armory and start your upgrades. get some bcs, and wraiths or/and vikings if bcs are on cooldown (and 1 raven if you need detection). you can make some strike fighter platforms latter on, or make some ground units, but your air army should be your main focuss, once you have like 5 galleons, 5 bcs, 1 raven and some wraiths/vikings you army becomes almost unstoppable

[@fallenshaw5659]

Thank you Lowko for the opening position of your cam. I didn't know my screen was dirty till i saw spots all over your forhead.

[@NomadKolibria]

Lowko, if you drop mag mines in the middle of an enemy base, the defences are likely to destroy the mags before they can arm.

[@SkyLordPanglot]

26:20 "Look at the airstrike. Aah it deals so much damage." and it drops on air units dealing no damage to them. :D

[@CBoy92]

I'm disappointed that they aren't a Cho'Gall/Archon mode commander. That would've been fun. Also, isn't DroneRush Winter?

[@crestfallensunbro6001]

that would have been awesome

[@shieldmate7444]

CBoy92 Doesn't Lowko want to share viewers? Why didn't he give shoutout to Winter's channel?

[@LowkoTV]

DroneRush is DroneRush. Winter also has an account called DroneRush I believe. Not the same person!

[@shieldmate7444]

LowkoTV Thanks for clearing that up man!

[@theblazingangels4286]

Winter, is the fake drone :D

[@Enuelle]

I'm in Puerto Rico and I've been like 2 months without power and I've been hype for a while wanting to play SC2;but this really got me hype. New commander and free to play,so that my friend can download it?! Can't wait.

[@JR-cr2zg]

Welcome to Starcraft. Hope you will enjoy the game.

[@Enuelle]

J R I'm 30 years old and I've been playing since SC1 and still own broodwar so I'm not new to the game. It's just hurricane bullcrap that left the whole island without power. But I should be getting power back before December I hope lol. Still thanks For the welcome,that was very nice of you

[@georgeitsolutions]

Is anyone else guilty of watching SC2 videos and wanting to see a different part of the map, so you click the minimap on the video like it's really going to change what you're looking at? Oh, just me? Oh ok.

[@Hypastpist]

i call bullshit on the"foe experienced players only" tag im a total noob but even i recognized that the ABILITY to construct a mobile carrier/factory with relatively cheap and fast units is nuts i can constantly reinforce and rush, never stop applying pressure

[@crumble1400]

imo Mag mines should be used for defense Precision strikes are called that for a reason, don't just dump it everywhere and hit nothing. Use it on defenses or high hp/damage units in the FOW you dont need too many ravens hellions and hellbats are great

[@CtG-Games]

Aww you missed a chance to beat the mutation as a level 1 commander. :B Also for everyone else I recommend Monk's co-op guide on Team Liquid. They are extremely detailed and inform you not only on how to carry your own weight, but also how to effectively strategize to carry your ally as well.

[@SkyKnife19]

You can't attempt mutation with a commander under lvl 5

[@avsbes98]

Licith i think you can since version 4.0 (yesterday)

[@JR-cr2zg]

Licith you are so out dated!

[@cubaofarmer]

CtG already did. And skipped 5 levels. LOL

[@drunkendevil6960]

Lowko..... You didnt watch the preview video on them did ya?

[@renkim2296]

lowko props to you for shouting out newcomers! ive been watching your channel for 2 years now but every onece in a while you do that, i still feel welcomed. great job keep it up! mah man

[@BigKingReal]

Its not hard you just dont make units idk why

[@mileslee5883]

If you have only 4 battlecruisers with an upgrade, you can destroy almost everything :D

[@ganonk79]

10:23 when Lowko finally buries his widow mine. :)

[@halfling62]

Also, one thing to note about playing with Stukov, frame rate is gonna take a bit of a hit. This has been Learning with Lowko. Come back next week for the next episode.

[@AlRoderick]

These two are going to match well with Swann, bonus gas plus science vessels and free repair. (PS, they DO have an upgrade that gives you twice the supply for each depot.)

[@FIoppa486]

Please replay the SC2 campaign

[@yanihero129]

He will after he is finnished with SC1 remasterd

[@VArsovski10]

Zerg campaign BW remastered first... Waiting for that one quite a while now :)

[@jacebeleren2621]

VArsovski10 so after remastered he's gonna do HotS?

[@ludvigtunander3495]

Haha the starcraft 1 music in the background :)

[@Liverator]

My strat with Mira N Matt is unless the map's expo is covered by rocks, after building a depot and scvs, just make all 5 galleons, I didn't really use vespene for too much in the early-mid game except for upgrades and the tax fighters. Then I just made a couple bcs in the late game. It works pretty well tbh. I can beat a hard mission with them at level 5 with this strat as well

[@johanvanhoof59]

Are the buildings of Han and honor Not skin pack I think so

[@f00dify]

The Mira Han missions in wings of liberty were by far the most fun since you got a butt load of amazing units.

[@BigKingReal]

You should do mass reapers they are op as dehaka

[@gdaymaster8499]

Once you hit Level 4, or whatever it is that gives reapers flight for 10 seconds, it's basically best to just mass reapers and constantly have the fly so you can destroy the ground and shoot down any air units. Meanwhile saving up for Horner's units.

[@Bzerka333]

you probably figured this out by the time you read this, but the mag mines take about 6-10 seconds to arm. so they need to be placed a while before the enemy shows up. If you drop the mines on the enemies heads they will just be shot before they arm.

[@ultralaggin8467]

Gotta love that starcraft 1 music at the begining

[@tritonis54]

It’s only me or we barely never saw games with Talandar ?

[@talandar5773]

Tritonis Don't worry, I'm still hanging around. On a serious note, I believe the stated reason was that he himself was quite powerful but his power doesn't scale well to the endgame, as well as being too straightforward for Lowko's taste.

[@tritonis54]

Ok, thanks for the response honorable Talandar.

[@LowkoTV]

I did several guides with Fenix, he's great!

[@Carpatouille]

Hasn't he been buffed this patch though ?

[@MiTsul2U]

most of unit of Talandar are buff. But Carrier got nerf with interceptor now has cost build with 15 mineral per unit.

[@flighthawx]

Lowko, how do you bind your top bar abilities to the F5-8 keys? That seems incredibly helpful but I don't have that in game

[@360xssp]

go to the hotkey menu in options, there is a part for Coop ;)

[@M4pster]

Karax's Sentries speed boost increases the galleons attack speed and construction speed. That + Chrono Boost = millions of units fast

[@Pyrom4c]

i usally make 3 gallions off the bat and use those as a defence for the 1st-2nd wave and by then i have at least 60% of an army and the rest just builds up as i use this army

[@Shetoken]

i'm not sure if it's a smart stratagy but I tend to rush all 5 factories out as fast as possible but my early gam pop limit tends to take a hit.

[@cybervice1125]

Quick question: what happends when han and horner teams up with raynor? :) Is that winter with Dehaka?

[@tronghungnguyen8716]

that flying barrack is now both barrack and a mini carrier

[@mirahorner6277]

You should read engineering bay upgrades,you may use new strategies with them. For example:kill hellions to get boost.

[@myargumentiscompletelyinva6586]

Gabriel Tosh or reaper spam

[@christopherg2347]

Pretty sure Isaw that Precision Strike one-shoot a Pylon. That would be 600+ Damage, IIRC. You really need to check out the exact figure and compare it to common HP + Armor amounts to see what you can all one or two-shoot with them.

[@adamdobry5517]

Christopher G i was pretty sure pylons were 100/100 or 200/200

[@stalwart56k]

Hot key you are looking for is F6 for your long range strike.

[@JackSparrow-gn1zn]

How about a series where you make a guide for each commander. Like the first minutes you just talk about them, pros cons general strategy best and worst maps and match-ups etc, them you make a demo game.

[@MadManwithaSpoon]

Mira Han looks like a future version of Chandra from Magic The Gathering.

[@thiagocorreia3483]

"precision strike" ~clicks on everything~

[@3psilon.]

Now you and sushi can both do mass battlecruiser in mutation missions!!

[@emerson21962]

Epsilon The Horners and Raynor.

[@SilverWolf19]

The mines can be targeted by enemies, so it's best to set them out of the line of fire or defensively. Otherwise, you're just wasting them

[@estellebright2579]

For a very short time though. The worst thing is the damage is kinda like nothing. Enemy mag mine deals 100 base damage.

[@sfukuda512]

People who don't want WoL campaign spoiled, do not watch! Also, SPOILER!!! Han and Horner are technically married, in what jurisdiction, it is not explained. Horner is extremely ambivalent about this, while Mira loves her little Matthew. Some of this interplay is alluded to in HoTS. I think they papered this over in Co-Op, because things seem to be going just swell.

[@xel3783]

sfukuda512 It *is* explained why, Matt won a poker game where the prize was marrying Mira Han.

[@NathanCassidy721]

My only complaint with them is they are pretty weak on defense. The mines are good but are one time use, have a wind-up time for the attack, and can miss the enemy. Offense is fairly strong and mobile what with the galleons and Starport droppods.

[@flars1620]

Nathan Cassidy It is coop, other commanders are specialized in Defense. And bc H&H's units are so mobile, you don't really need defences, bc you can simply run to your base with your army before the enemy arrives.

[@somedude4087]

If you played Red Allert 3 you know what to do with those air-strike platforms

[@g.zoltan]

Airstriking is quick thus hard to defend. Almost as hard as KIROV REPORTING

[@estellebright2579]

I highly doubt lowko played RA3. But in RA3 the skill can’t be hit in blind.

[@mattialonghin_mr.l857]

Lowko how did you made the top bar abilities into a F control?

[@mlemmage8449]

lowko, make next mutation a challenge with mira's mobile buildings only!

[@LowkoTV]

She's sadly limited to 5. That would have been awesome otherwise!

[@yanihero129]

When you are playing new commanders can you move your face cam so we see the unit's portraits

[@benny27ist]

I hope you will use this commander in the weekly mutation, soon enough. I enjoy watching this one xD

[@schill7257]

hey Lowko, would you consider making a beginners guide for starcraft 2 now that its F2P? really like your videos but i suck at starcraft and would like to get better :)

[@SarumanDeWhite]

My fav commander.

[@FirePlaysRBLX]

The 2nd game was actually the last level of Heart of the swarm

[@FullBringer1]

Lowko,after you figured all(almost) the strategies of all commanders could you make brief guides of them,of Co-op Commanders, to post on KZbin ? Like starting with Raynor,Kerrigan and Artanis and so on ? 🤔 It would be nice ,because some of us ( aka the newbies) do not know alot. Or if you already have guides for them,just give the link in the next video. Thanks for video ,was awesome just like you and smooth like your forehead. En taro Adun 😀 👌

[@JR-cr2zg]

I recommend you Monk's coop commanders guides on Team Liquid. He makes it in deep details. Hope it can help you.

[@FullBringer1]

J R Thank you.

[@Ruffi88]

Hello Lowko nice to meet u too :D This new 2in1 looks nice :D

[@mctuoi]

Huge fan of your channel, Lowko... but so sad that you stop the Darkest Dungeon playthrough :( when will it be back?

[@ghornisbae1653]

Just got into Starcraft 2 (have been watching lowko for a year or so now but only now started playing) and for some reason my zoom feels so much closer than the zoom in lowko's videos. Can you change the zoom in game or is it different in coop?

[@acetropics4142]

Ghorn Is bae using the mouse wheel

[@ghornisbae1653]

Ace Tropics. I did but it still feels so close

[@emerson21962]

Ghorn Is bae Check you resolution, that's probably it

[@jerrybelon1]

i wonder if the wodiw mines work a deffensive uint?

[@TheOwlMan8850]

I want Tassadar to become a new comander, or maybe some other protoss

[@h8th101]

Tassadar dead tho, only characters alive during lotv campaign can be Co op commanders. I guess they could bring him back like they did with stukov, but tassadar showed up as a ghost at one point so I doubt it. I'm not sure if there are any cool protoss characters left for new commanders :(

[@TheOwlMan8850]

Nightblade178427 it could be awesome, like archons being a bit stronger, being the main unit, and more upgrades?

[@h8th101]

Paul Barclay your wrong unfortunately, that was the zelNaga impersonating tassadar in order to influence zeratul

[@wookisnitch6802]

I have dont an random brutal Mission as swann its making so much fun and my mate was kerrigan so it was easy

[@Mono-rg8tb]

How did he create those "1, 2, 3, 4, 5" tabs ??

[@flars1620]

Lunar _ViiRus klick on a building or unit, then "ctrl" + any number. You can do "Shift" + any number aswell.

[@thierrybunel4534]

Is a free commander or need buy with money ?

[@dakmole7012]

Until level 5 its free.

[@dakmole7012]

No, when you reach lvl 5, it will become locked for you until you buy it.

[@thierrybunel4534]

the price is like the other one 5€ or 10€ ?

[@Jerry25]

Each commander costs 5€ alone.

[@thierrybunel4534]

ok nice

[@cluehunter18]

Will we be seeing the new Rock the Cabinet Co-op mission soon Lowko? I'm curious to see how you tackle the mission on Brutal difficulty.

[@ibra848484]

Terran have 5 carriers, PogChamp

[@General_Fiye]

Yeah go lowko!

[@gubbica99]

lowko what graphic card u using? i got 2x1080 and during the COOP my FPS drop to like 30 or something , this doesn't happen in any other game i played.

[@LowkoTV]

StarCraft is CPU limited. It only uses 2 cores. I'm running a i9-7900X with a 1080 ti. Still drops down to single digit FPS in the late game because of the engine. I guess that's what happens with older games.

[@gubbica99]

ahh i see , thanks for reply and here i thought something was wrong with my machine.

[@bayanzabihiyan7465]

they need to revamp the engine to use all cores. I mean hundreds on individual units should leverage a lot of cores. Like ashes of the singularity (or ashes of the benchmark since no one plays)

[@allenbocephus]

Those mag mines will stop that first wave as easily as infest ya derp!

[@NaNi-vr8yp]

Good morning Lowko, it's 3am at my country.

[@NaNi-vr8yp]

yep, S.E.A East Malaysia.

[@NaNi-vr8yp]

LOL, Greetings. But also good night. i'm so sleepy right now. XD

[@Simoky99]

its 16h at mine lol

[@gWinnieVR]

if you play with new units, can you show the stats? dmg?

[@nathanbrown8680]

I think the account of Matt and Mira's marriage is in a novel and not detailed at all in WoL.

[@JamailvanWestering]

It was brought up, he won her hand in marriage through a poker game, he wasn’t aware what the prize was and if he had known what it was he wouldn’t have done it

[@alvitto2520]

28:23 Досвидания)) (stukov)

[@Sc0tt8588]

Nice to see the "happy" married couple working together :P

[@NewTypeDilemma01]

"[Mira and Matt] can accomplish anything...except for marital harmony." Good. I _never_ want the tension between them to disappear.

[@adamdobry5517]

Cynical Aspie the tension is kinda onesided

[@NewTypeDilemma01]

Which is half the joke.

[@tzoanast1061]

This might sound stupid but how do y pout your topbar abilities on hotkeys? I have been looking for a while but couldnt find a way

[@tzoanast1061]

*put

[@LowkoTV]

+tzo anast In the hotkey settings.

[@1un4cy]

H&H gameplay in a nutshell: build 5 galleons, upgrade drones, spam reapers and magmines

[@az4535]

When mira gets added but not tosh

[@LowkoTV]

Back in the day they only added Heroes that are alive pre LotV epilogue. He might come at some point!

[@Sunnysideanyway]

This game update came out roughly the same time as the new PUBG update.

[@proximus1521]

ok... we definetly need cruisers bros, raynor and han cruisers rush only.

[@Sekir80]

Dronerush? Umm.... Is that Winter? :D

[@charleouel9012]

I love the play style of Matt (but not a big fan of Mira just my personal taste) so I kinda dislike the start of this commander for the end game is super fun I most said (I peronally love the precision strike)

[@justthattaco531]

Fudge, i spent all my money on buying Dehaka and Stukov

[@draven5149]

I couldn't play starcraft yesterday, kept crashing out to desktop...

[@davidamorao3254]

Same, everyone was crashing yesterday.

[@JR-cr2zg]

And today as well. About to destroy the last Hydrid in P&P, got disconnect. "Feel awesome, man!"

[@tusk3260]

horner didnt win mira in poker game he actually lost the pocker game so technically its mira that won horner in poker game but correct me if im wrong

[@theprogenitor9087]

Seems Horner & Mira would do pretty well with Swann because of the gas drones

[@XXRolando2008]

Hoeveel moet ze kosten?

[@MugenYomi]

Is there any benefits for people who had bought all three games, or are we SoL?

[@JR-cr2zg]

MugenYomi Ghost skin

[@lawrentheroux4933]

can you build on creep as terran if your ally is zerg?

[@lawrentheroux4933]

never played co-op or with allies before, im pure 1v1s lol

[@LowkoTV]

+Lawren Theroux In co-op, always. Yes.

[@zaxtonhong3958]

Co op has modifications. AoE doesn't friendly fire (siege tanks, psi storm, etc doesn't hurt you or your ally) All buildings can be placed on creep Power fields are shared.

[@JR-cr2zg]

Its weird, with all that share, coop players somehow can not share mineral and gas as in ladder.

[@lyravega6577]

Lowko, please, one day, one game, do mass galleon. Please :D

[@harrisoncho3501]

You can make only 5 gallons :/ It does make a sense though because it is damn powerful for 200 mineral free supply unit.

[@adamdobry5517]

Fookin flying reapers and fookin terrain carriers (but they resupply time is shit)

[@BBspike100]

Anti-Ground buildings: Jim = Bunker Swann = Fire turret Nova = Railgun turret Han & Horner = ??? (I guess LowkoTV level is too low)

[@myargumentiscompletelyinva6586]

BBspike100 they don’t have anti ground buildings (maybe air strike platform)

[@topanteon]

In a world of StarCraft where there's literal colonization efforts and vast space armadas... They still use trains. Wat?

[@CrypticElements]

Well, they are futuristic trains.

[@Wolf-st7hi]

I'm lvl 6 Han and Horner and I just spam reapers

[@kacid3108]

hi lowko

[@pyroman2918]

It is great that the commanders now stop leveling on level 5, I wished I could do that even with commanders I own, it is more challenging and fun. On the max level you just destroy everything with no effort.

[@HandsomeGamerGuy]

Than play Brutal + Mutation. With a bad Mate lul.

[@IcedLance]

Micro? What is micro?

[@slynerdred9207]

i dont know why but i cant play starcraft2 does anybody know how to restart battlenet

[@JR-cr2zg]

Select setting on the Battle.net and looking for "Scan and Repair" option. Will take awhile, then try to play again. If not, contact support. But since the patch 4.0 came, there were crashes to a lot of people. So maybe the problem is not your end.

[@slynerdred9207]

J R thanks