StarCraft 2: Dark's AMAZING Strategic Variety! (Best-of-5)

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3 жыл бұрын

Dark versus HeroMarine in a best-of-5 series of StarCraft 2. It turns out these two pro gamers are incredibly close in skill level.
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@mZStarCraft
@mZStarCraft 3 жыл бұрын
22:18 that drone block was chefs kiss. 👌
@shiny4102
@shiny4102 3 жыл бұрын
"Dark's 6 minute hive!!!" Me a year ago in gold league with my 2m lair with 2 gas before pool and hatch:
@billl.2441
@billl.2441 3 жыл бұрын
Lol. Highlight comment!
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the impressive part is actually getting away with doing that in a successful maneuver. Plenty of cool ideas require build orders that...uh...don't work if the opponent decides to be aggressive (had plenty of times when i didn't to make many units to reach certain tech faster only to get rekt lol).
@rapteroker7845
@rapteroker7845 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshuakim5240 r/woosh
@Jimknopf-1960
@Jimknopf-1960 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, whos Dark ?
@TheGreatMoonFrog
@TheGreatMoonFrog 3 жыл бұрын
"What build do you typically use?" Dark: "Yes."
@Eyriour
@Eyriour 3 жыл бұрын
Came here to say the same without the meme. This is such an exhibition of Dark's adaptability. Each game won used a different build. So proud of our Zerg boi
@titocristobal5573
@titocristobal5573 2 жыл бұрын
Epitome of Zerg in the Lore. Whatever technology you come up with, Zerg evolves something to fight against that.
@Pr4n4v13
@Pr4n4v13 2 жыл бұрын
@@titocristobal5573 love stuff like this, protoss defending until they just lazer everything to the ground, Terran using scrappy guerilla tactics and parade pushes, zerg being adaptable and swarmy. Love this game
@bronzefather5426
@bronzefather5426 3 жыл бұрын
I watch pro Zerg in the hope I one day grow another hand.
@4theswarm473
@4theswarm473 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that is exactly what i am hoping will happen too.
@storm8192
@storm8192 3 жыл бұрын
Lowko should pin this comment 🤣
@honeysal
@honeysal 3 жыл бұрын
I’m up to six, you’ll make it one day comrade
@st4ndby
@st4ndby 3 жыл бұрын
Essence assimilated. Terran gets additional arm. Third arm is usefull. Will adapt to terran species.
@executorarktanis2323
@executorarktanis2323 3 жыл бұрын
Shift to living near a nuclear plant your hope can turn into reality
@Pyriin
@Pyriin 3 жыл бұрын
Lowko: "gabe thinks its safe because he can look at one thing at once" Me trying to play like heromarine or dark: "I think these players have 8 arms and 2 heads"
@mstandenberg1421
@mstandenberg1421 3 жыл бұрын
A typical 1v1 has 8 limbs and 2 heads. I may have misunderstood something.
@filipbitala2624
@filipbitala2624 3 жыл бұрын
I mean thats an understatement, more like having four brains, half a second reaction at most and like three hands with gamerfuel imstead of blood
@nickmeisters2491
@nickmeisters2491 2 жыл бұрын
@@filipbitala2624 hahaha
@ignaciojimenez4786
@ignaciojimenez4786 Жыл бұрын
Heromarine actually kept a few marines over the burrowed lings, so he new!
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 жыл бұрын
Apparently there's a game of Zest vs. Vanya a few weeks ago in which Zest has an amazing game. I can't find any casts of it, though.
@LowkoTV
@LowkoTV 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll have a look. Thanks for the recommendation.
@chaoxyz8183
@chaoxyz8183 3 жыл бұрын
Dark's 8 minute lurker army was like the Zerg version of a turtle skytoss rush.
@daethalion1725
@daethalion1725 3 жыл бұрын
Dark: *snipes his own roach with a bile* Me: Riley, nooo!
@Baleur
@Baleur 2 жыл бұрын
Dark is so impressive, its like he's one of the few zerg that actually uses the unit abilities as intended. I've seen SO many pro zerg players just run straight up chokepoints defended by 6 siege tanks, just taking the hits. Dark is like, nah, why do that? Just use abduction, siege tanks completely nullified. Finally a zerg like this.
@agloggen
@agloggen 3 жыл бұрын
Adding Vipers to negate siege tanks in game 3 was a brilliant move that I had not seen before. Great games and great casting. Thank you.
@jeremyadamson9618
@jeremyadamson9618 3 жыл бұрын
Lowko I love it when you talk about the keyboard mechanics. It’s one of the most fascinating parts - like how casters of the Olympics explain how insane it is what your watching.
@TritonTv69420
@TritonTv69420 3 жыл бұрын
Dude that thumbnail is epic Could be the cover of a game. You know if people still bought cd's. 55:00 i love when lowko starts talking faster and faster hahaha.
@alantanmiaothong635
@alantanmiaothong635 3 жыл бұрын
Dark showed spectacular game sense. Think I'm going to defend and mass army? Nope, I'm going to counterattack while getting adrenal. Roach push? Nah, I'm rushing Hive Viper-Lurker. Think I'm just going to run around you with mutas? How about I just flood in lings on your bases. On the other hand, HeroMarine looked as if he lacked confidence making changes in his strategy. Makes me wonder if Dark purposely used the second game as a loss to set up the viper-lurker push. While Heromarine was playing the game, Dark was PLAYING the game.
@billl.2441
@billl.2441 3 жыл бұрын
After that match vs Clem, Dark is my new favorite pro SC2 to watch. Games just so much more exciting.
@patximartel
@patximartel 3 жыл бұрын
Dark is so great. He doesn't gives to dimes and makes it work to sheer power of will and mechanics.
@davidholland4713
@davidholland4713 3 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed Lowko is trying to learn from Dark. How can you learn all his builds when every game is a different one? He really believes in being unpredictable. He's like the anti-Serral. Great cast and great series.
@houstonlambert3097
@houstonlambert3097 3 жыл бұрын
Yes lowko my cat hears your voice and starts meowing cause she knows I’m waking up or going to sleep! We love you and hope your doing good brother!!! Please don’t stop doing the sc2:)
@GBS4893
@GBS4893 2 жыл бұрын
41:02 That lurker and that widow mine, sleeping near each other xD
@Alloran
@Alloran 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like Dark has decided that 6 lings is the appropriate early answer against Terran. He doesn't take any damage other than the 1 drone he loses for making the extra 2 lings.
@blazepond5518
@blazepond5518 3 жыл бұрын
watching this directly after the HeroMarine vs Reynor bo5 you casted from Feb 2021, so cool to see the progression , SC2 is such a great game for that ever evolving meta. incredible. thanks Lowko, always the best casts
@jeromenewsome2596
@jeromenewsome2596 3 жыл бұрын
Game 1 was sooo close. My adrenaline was pumping lol
@sorinrobinson9237
@sorinrobinson9237 2 жыл бұрын
9:07 ahhh man you can hear the heartbeat in Lowkos voice
@drazw5705
@drazw5705 3 жыл бұрын
Lowko: Dark has been doing roach ravager long before the cool kids did. Me: GASP!! Dark is a cool kid.
@legion8863
@legion8863 3 жыл бұрын
5:42 spots banshee, drone hides behind vespene
@jasonlynch282
@jasonlynch282 3 жыл бұрын
"Fear the banshee." -some banshee pilot
@billl.2441
@billl.2441 3 жыл бұрын
That 1st game. HOLY SHIT!! How many of us would of GG'd
@goldensea03idk51
@goldensea03idk51 3 жыл бұрын
You always say HeroMarine is super underrated and is super good. I mostly watch your videos and some live streamed games. And I have never seen you cast a game of Gabe winning or seen it in stream. I can tell he’s good but I’ve never seen him win a pro game.
@GBS4893
@GBS4893 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who plays a very consistent, standard focused style his victories are probably often very standard situations too, probably not the best to cast to attract interest from the public.
@everacalm8410
@everacalm8410 3 жыл бұрын
Really been watching a lot of pro SC2 lately and may I just say "NO ONE" is more entertaining with the commentary than Lowko. In some other channels not gonna say names, the games can be awesome but the commentators can put you to sleep with their tone or lack of energy. KEEP IT UP LOWKO
@lyxnyte9239
@lyxnyte9239 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I like watching Winter and Lowko, the're great at this.
@Nikirawruwu
@Nikirawruwu 3 жыл бұрын
11:58 I was sure I heard some misspronunciation! The creems!
@cykonot
@cykonot 3 жыл бұрын
"Rank 45... NA server" We see what you're doing
@calineos6770
@calineos6770 3 жыл бұрын
"Kartoffel und Bratwurst. Schnitzel." Oh come on Lowko, now I'm hungry... This reminds me, I didn't have much Sauerkraut lately. Speaking of food: Very exited for the next viewer cheese, even though these pro games surely are enjoyable to watch.
@GBS4893
@GBS4893 2 жыл бұрын
9:01 That was both surprising and as a zerg enthusiast much of a treat.
@WRJara
@WRJara 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing work Lowko, keep it up!
@peewypeabody4284
@peewypeabody4284 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Dark is really on top of his game again!
@1389Chopin
@1389Chopin 2 жыл бұрын
Good cast - had me laughing at some points. As someone who knows nothing about sc2 like the detailed commentary and keeping it light
@alucardsamararadiant952
@alucardsamararadiant952 2 жыл бұрын
It reminded me of the time when you start with 4 marin to do a rush, but on steroids, amazing.
@gbell6973
@gbell6973 3 жыл бұрын
22:25 using that drone on hold position to block the hellions?
@game_jinx
@game_jinx 3 жыл бұрын
i'd like to see hellions burn enemies on contact, or does that sound like it would be to tough to fight off, like banes, for a zerg. we better keep it easy for em
@MrCokewithice
@MrCokewithice 2 жыл бұрын
love the 4k video quality from lowko
@Sprayer-px3tu
@Sprayer-px3tu 3 жыл бұрын
It's 225 minerals per mule @lowko, it's well researched.
@HISteve808
@HISteve808 3 жыл бұрын
Tomorrow's GSL Final Dark vs Trap is going to be great! Dark has been so sick with infestors lately too. One more style he's got on deck.
@cedardmd
@cedardmd 3 жыл бұрын
9:00 Lowko's voice is high as squealing banelings
@RoastingPotPieMonkey
@RoastingPotPieMonkey 3 жыл бұрын
lol the title was cut off for me reading "starcraft 2: dark's ama" . I was mildly disappointed but loved the cast nonetheless : D
@Neloish
@Neloish 3 жыл бұрын
I knew you were a PRO, part of mousesports huh. Time for Lowko vs the world.
@beardedzeus1337
@beardedzeus1337 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally writing a comment about how flexible Dark is and then you started talking about it lol. But yeah I think thats what makes Dark so powerful hes so hard to predict that the only way to play against him is purely reactionary, while most of his opponents can be predicted by him quite well. "If you know your enemy and know yourself then you need not fear the result of a hundred battles, if you know your enemy and not yourself then for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat, if you know neither the enemy nor yourself then you will succumb in every battle." Dark lives and breathes Sun Tzu
@yanagio5500
@yanagio5500 2 жыл бұрын
Love your vids bro!!
@matteodv6407
@matteodv6407 3 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but at 11:46 when dark goes for a strike against the mineral line, wouldn't morphing banelings along the group of zerglings coming from uptop guarantee the kill on the SCVs? Why do we never see funnel pushing, basically doing a pinch manouver to guarantee the scv picks?
@pops1cle187
@pops1cle187 3 жыл бұрын
"6 minute hive!?" Me, who makes hives at the 4 minute mark
@jasonlynch282
@jasonlynch282 3 жыл бұрын
Multiple hives huh? Nice.
@PenguinIceDelta
@PenguinIceDelta 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonlynch282 redundancy, they always expect the one they scout
@JohnSmith-hn7zj
@JohnSmith-hn7zj 3 жыл бұрын
1 Lowko I've been watching your vids for a long time. I just subscribed today, keep up the awesome casts!
@dado380
@dado380 Жыл бұрын
Tht Dark burrow was so clutch!!
@Sirmartinii
@Sirmartinii 3 жыл бұрын
lowko questioning the double inject when i thought that what u normally do and im diamond :D
@tricide7274
@tricide7274 3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly those Hive upgrades by Dark in the first match were really worth it.
@ostrava2859
@ostrava2859 3 жыл бұрын
"most common on is a factory" Me *Ghost go brrrr*
@ProfMaddex
@ProfMaddex 3 жыл бұрын
Makes me remember a dark game in shoutcraft kings with 6min maxed out Roaches ^^
@GBS4893
@GBS4893 2 жыл бұрын
Dayum, that game n°1 really showed us how tight the zvt match up is. Those midgame terran pushes definitely are scary but the zerg can always come back at any point after just one mistake from the terran player.
@nemigazhogynincsszab
@nemigazhogynincsszab 3 жыл бұрын
in the first game it happened several times that zergling got into the natural because of improper walling... don't forget about that
@amormundi98
@amormundi98 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lowko love your videos! Fan from the Philippines since 2019 :)
@ProXiE89
@ProXiE89 3 жыл бұрын
great video, awesome bo5
@Maleficarum999
@Maleficarum999 2 жыл бұрын
Dark brought back that Scarlett vs Bomber memories by getting rid of OC and planting banelings for kabooms
@jhsrules8010
@jhsrules8010 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing
@Melanrick
@Melanrick 2 жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT that game number one man! I was out of breath just watching it. Man... That was amazing!
@Bloodaxe370
@Bloodaxe370 3 жыл бұрын
Another Lowko Video!
@DaR3b3L
@DaR3b3L 2 жыл бұрын
Another in the vaults. 5/5 stars keep up the great work
@Rockpet
@Rockpet 3 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite games so far my favorite terran vs my favorite zerg
@DavyMaxwell3D
@DavyMaxwell3D 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, great series, amazing demonstration of strategy and adaptability by Dark
@TubeTAG
@TubeTAG 3 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, are there ever any competitive tournaments for Team vs. Team (2v2, 3v3, etc.)? I know that 1v1 is obviously the focus but I'm curious if 2v2 is a thing outside of PvE. Even when you do cast big, 3+ player games, they always seem to be free for alls.
@game_jinx
@game_jinx 3 жыл бұрын
they tried, but no professional gamers took it seriously. the games turned into mono battles, with minimal to no strategies other than mass gimmicky play
@goodfood722398
@goodfood722398 3 жыл бұрын
Jeez Lowko you've been flaming HeroMarine lately
@Baleur
@Baleur 2 жыл бұрын
51:10 i mean it doesnt, it takes about half the APM that is actually displayed, because players double-triple click every single move order (on the same spot), which isnt necessary or improve anything about the way units behave.
@higuys6292
@higuys6292 3 жыл бұрын
love these videos more more
@machineelf9459
@machineelf9459 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t play but how hard is it to aim ravager shots where the other army is likely to dodge? Is it a range issue? Often I see a predictable position the Terran is likely to move back and they just miss as Dark was aiming where the army WAS rather than where they WILL BE.
@anonymous255
@anonymous255 3 жыл бұрын
I got a whiplash from how much you switched between heromarine and "Gabe".
@Cunha2105
@Cunha2105 3 жыл бұрын
What an amazing first game!
@-42-47
@-42-47 2 жыл бұрын
I don't really know anything about SC2 (though I did play some SC1 back in the days) but it feels weird not seeing players making more effort to take down Medivacs, are there no zerg units that can snipe them? Game 2 is a great example of this, the Roaches + Ravagers looks really powerful but they can't seem to kill anything when the medivacs are doing their thing, what would zerg have to invest in order to pick them off? Maybe have a small group of Mutalisk circle around and snipe them from behind while the enemy is focusing on your main force?
@ecotechpestservices
@ecotechpestservices 3 жыл бұрын
I finally started playing again since brood war days thinking I can micro somewhat like these videos… I was so wrong lol
@patximartel
@patximartel 3 жыл бұрын
Adrenal glands is so powerful
@moritzgraber9962
@moritzgraber9962 3 жыл бұрын
46:41 perfect german as always
@gh0str4nger49
@gh0str4nger49 3 жыл бұрын
dutch be like: uwu our twaine got stukkie wukkie!
@JG-ti7id
@JG-ti7id 3 жыл бұрын
Actually medivacs heal in and outside of combat 😁. As always, thankful Simon for all your hard work
@eyesightc.o3016
@eyesightc.o3016 3 жыл бұрын
I've got responsibilities and you tempt me by uploading another amazing vid!! Curse you!!!
@AD-lr6pc
@AD-lr6pc 3 жыл бұрын
Game 1 was sick
@raycavazos8927
@raycavazos8927 2 жыл бұрын
The only thing more fun to watch than dark's wonderfully unorthodox strategies own complete face is watching a good old fashion serral/maru/marinelord/byun straight up beatdown. I am loving dark. Long story short!
@yurigoncharov8336
@yurigoncharov8336 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting fact. I'm not paying StarCraft, but really enjoy watching Lowko's videos. Moreover I'm not native English speaking 😅
@balckdwarf2
@balckdwarf2 3 жыл бұрын
Same for me exactly and has been so for years
@TheBucLeXx12
@TheBucLeXx12 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I was going to write that exact comment I do not play SC2 but love watching these videos. Keep up the hard work lowko!!! Big fan
@migykiwa7296
@migykiwa7296 3 жыл бұрын
Me 2
@kakashi1150
@kakashi1150 2 жыл бұрын
what is idle time in the stats mean?
@ethanaleman
@ethanaleman 3 жыл бұрын
Big Gab just put Clem in his place won 3 v 0
@b2spirit86
@b2spirit86 3 жыл бұрын
35:12 how about 13 pool instead of 12 pool? 13 pool can get little more mineral while still can counter proxy gate or cannon rush
@glowyboi7175
@glowyboi7175 3 жыл бұрын
12 pool in PvZ is a macro build - the purpose is to attack their wall & delay their tech by forcing a Zeolot. 13 pool can't do this if you delay and use a larva on a drone.
@CloudSephiroth
@CloudSephiroth 3 жыл бұрын
Back when I played SC2- like 10 years ago, I would just destroy everyone with marines and Thors. Hopefully, I’ll see that again one day.
@onyxfinger7431
@onyxfinger7431 3 жыл бұрын
would be fun unless it's because of imba
@scottmadsen9964
@scottmadsen9964 3 жыл бұрын
@@onyxfinger7431 it is because of imba lol marine medivac is so broken and this is coming from a protoss main though i never went skytoss lol i usually just mass spammed immortals
@onyxfinger7431
@onyxfinger7431 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottmadsen9964 we weren't even talking about that how do you connect thors being fun to marine medivac being imba ?
@majicarpclone3795
@majicarpclone3795 3 жыл бұрын
will you be covering darks 4-0 or should i watch it on my own
@Yamato2012xdd
@Yamato2012xdd 2 жыл бұрын
The most gargantuan of gabes
@Spartsou
@Spartsou 3 жыл бұрын
*sees an hour-long vid* Me: yeahhh, keep these vids coming! don't wear yourself out tho!
@schippes24
@schippes24 3 жыл бұрын
34:20 i think dark plays a lot out of experience or feelings.. my bet for this series would be that he tried to cut a corner in game two and realized that it probably wasnt worth it and so he gets it in game three
@roncho
@roncho 3 жыл бұрын
I saw the last series of gsl dark vs trap... Dark is invincible these days letse how much time he can keep this monster level
@panner11
@panner11 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the LOTV release Mule changes really went under the radar. Mules mine 25 per trip now down from 30 and the mining time was tweaked, so they don't mine 270 or 300 minerals, they mine 225 minerals. I've heard many non-terran gms continue to mention this 300 number.
@game_jinx
@game_jinx 3 жыл бұрын
mules are not extra economy. they are a mineral and time investment into making up for lost mining for building scvs. think. how much does a orbital cost. 400+150+scv lost mining. at any given time a good terran has 3-6 scvs that can readily build sim city, increase production, and build ccs at any given time. again, mules are not extra economy. it is retribution for lost mining
@Gingerlocks35
@Gingerlocks35 2 жыл бұрын
haven't played starcraft 2 but can zerg not invest the tarren command base anymore?
@jhetao
@jhetao 3 жыл бұрын
Watching Heromarine's worker count at 12:00 is painful
@damedley75
@damedley75 2 жыл бұрын
As a low APM player (about 70 as zerg), I totally disagree with your Muta shade! Get 5 or 6 (if behind on air attack vs infantry armor) and you can swoop in, one-shot SCVs, and escape when you see something come for you. I know you know this better than I, but maybe you don't realize how much easier this is for a low APM player than other behind-the-lines harass like transport drops and Nydus. Plus you get a lot of vision which is hard to come by when you don't have time for great creep spread. Plus you are ready to make Corruptors, which mostly suck, but are the only way I can counter BCs. Thanks for the content!!
@huntervkiller
@huntervkiller 3 жыл бұрын
Dark has for a long time been the solo champion of burrow. Other zergs have dipped their toes in the water but Dark has been swimming all this time.
@atrtsh
@atrtsh 3 жыл бұрын
I use it most games, it's actually really handy, less so though at pro level as they can all see the burrowed unit marks
@brad24077
@brad24077 3 жыл бұрын
Dark is the best !! even lowko is confused with his build order :)
@robinheizler2828
@robinheizler2828 3 жыл бұрын
KARTOFFEL UND BRATWURST HMMMM JUICY Thats why we call Lowko a man of culture
@taggzz5545
@taggzz5545 2 жыл бұрын
i have no clue what im watching but it looks cool
@michaelwicker9538
@michaelwicker9538 Жыл бұрын
wouldn't Banshees plus scans or ravens counter mass lurker?
@thegrumpybusinessman3400
@thegrumpybusinessman3400 3 жыл бұрын
Love Zerg. It’s my main.
@akajesustsuki
@akajesustsuki 3 жыл бұрын
We address blizz or ignore?
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