Clem vs Dark Is The Most Intense StarCraft 2 Finals I've Ever Seen

[@adrenaline98]

Truly appreciate all of the casts you have done Winter. You play no small part in keeping this game alive, as important as the players and tournaments. I know I would have stopped following it a long time ago without the humor and commentary. I’ve probably watched 1/4 of these 1500 casts now, and can’t say I’ve ever been disappointed in your content. Cheers and hope to be here at 3000.

[@RalsBalls]

Well said!

[@adrenaline98]

@winterstarcraft Proposal to add Doomfist’s “I am the final boss” voice line to Dark’s intro.

[@asell0808]

Great take, great praise. I 100% agree.

[@schratt0r676]

100% agree! stopped playing long time ago, and still.. just bc of winter here, i still follow SC2.. awesome work

[@adrenaline98]

@ I actually stopped playing in like 2010, didn’t even follow it anymore. Winter’s casts were so good, I was chilling in Taiwan for the past year and it randomly popped up on my KZbin and I’m like WTH, let me check out the game. He single handedly made me interested in spectating competitive SC2 again. At first I’m like, is this a joke? Dudes southern accent just throwing out stuff like making his spire great again in professional casts? Now I catch at least one cast a day. 😂

[@dunngyllite7883]

Brenda: "We've ARRIVED!" Susan: "What? We didn't move anywhere" Brenda: "at 1500 likes !" Gratz from a dedicated spectator ;)

[@alfonapplepie]

"Frenchman carving through the queens, a revolutionary tactic" lmao

[@invalidusrname]

1500 pennies for 1500 likes. Thanks for the games Winter!🔥

[@TrebleAmp]

Your commitment to this game and the community is amazing! I haven’t played sc2 in years but still love the content! :)

[@BlakeMiller]

Great casting, Winter. I'm particularly fond of the imagined Queen dialogue... and the historical references. Mr. Zergachev, tear down this wall! 😂

[@juanpablonoyola3738]

"Put Karen in front" "I was in front last time!" "Karen shut up!" 🤣🤣

[@oliverweber7992]

I never play SC II. I never watched SC II. But since this channel was recommended to me like three days ago, I watch at least one match before going to bed...more like 3-4... Thanks for the sleep deprivation I guess!

[@Burkius]

Welcome to your new nightly routine, I had this happen 5 years ago. Still don’t play, watch a game or two every night while going to bed

[@0x7000]

Yeah same here. Watching winter every night for the last year or so. Love getting super high and just watching the magic happen

[@snagsTS]

Even as a Terran player and fan boy I love Dark. The dude has a pair of balls denser than osmium. Probably one of the most entertaining players out there, along with Gumiho, in my humble opinion.

[@crapsound]

Glad I'm not the only one. Even though I am rooting for Terran, Dark is also amazing. So far, it's him and Gumiho that are my favorite pro players.

[@lavamente]

"you dont need a better shield you need a bigger gun "what a phrase

[@gerv962]

This just made me like Dark even more.

[@adrenaline98]

@@gerv962 the final boss does grow on ya.

[@platini5303]

The dialogues of the queens uffff

[@f210-t1r]

According to KZbin I’m in the top 0.7% of winter watchers and I want to say thank you for something to look forward to almost daily winter you’re my goat

[@Greenlink01]

Where do you find this data?

[@PJOZeus]

@@Greenlink01 KZbin recap, dont remember or care where it is

[@Compulsive_LARPer]

Clem's last build should be called "Le Brick" or something. Absolutely brutal.

[@nolandionne1262]

“ugg” - Clem, 2024

[@nathandaniel5451]

It blows my mind how Clem can print marines.

[@adrenaline98]

@@nathandaniel5451 I was a masters player the first year of SC2. And even though I spent a lot of effort reminding myself to keep building units (and failing), like a nagging heuristic, I am amazed at how consistently they do it with single queues.

[@JordyShortRibs]

32:43 so im not the only one using Winters videos as a lullaby 😂

[@adrenaline98]

I fall asleep to Winter most nights.

[@EGDekker]

Clem vs Dark is a 🐐match-up, thank you Winter! But also… Day 9 of pleading with Winter to move "The Maru" to be on a single line in his card mock-up.

[@2girls1QoP]

Day9 u say

[@EGDekker]

@ lmaoo damn my loss

[@carlosmiguel78]

Hatchery Owners’ Association! 😅 You truly are the best at this, Winter. You mix humor, strategy, and just excellent commentary!

[@AZ3rgling]

The amount of pain and annoyance clem can cause with 1 scv and 1 reaper...

[@williampeter6593]

its painfull to watch :')

[@AJ-happydad]

when the game give one race more tools early for no reason that is imbalance

[@atifarshad7624]

​@@AJ-happydadbecause it is necessary. Zerg without being harassed can become unstoppable

[@aj2228]

@@atifarshad7624 except Blizzard epic failed, and made roaches 2 supply

[@OnigoroshiZero]

@@atifarshad7624 Zerg has no hope in late game vs Terran, unless they are massively ahead for at least 8-12 minutes already.

[@FelipeNaranja]

My man knew what he was doing when he was holding the 1499 for a while, excellent choice for the 1500. Actually, this time I'll like it no matter the result.

[@Invicta117]

2:35 GET OFF MY CREEEP!!!!

[@NovusGM]

Q: How many queens does it take to kill a reaper? A: Appearently 4 if Clem controls it.

[@benismann]

and 4 lings too

[@Calaban619]

Look whose back Back again Brenda's back, Brenda's back, Brenda's back ... Id buy that spotify cover

[@MaydelCervantes]

Congrats on your 1500 video!!!! Loving them all 🤩🤩

[@user-pg1fv2xk6i]

CONGRATS ON THE 1500 BRO!!! Love your channel man!!!

[@urazsoktay5275]

Amazing video, great series! Thank you Winter for amazing content! :D

[@anarchosnowflakist786]

those games are absolutely amazing, the builds, the micro the strategy, the casting too ! thank you winter for all your videos !!

[@joeljanzen8121]

Happy 1500 :D Thank you for all your casts, Winter

[@pinguthelightning]

Its crazy that terran can just spam 2 tier 1 units the entire game and just win. Clem is insane though

[@linanthony7892]

i think alphastar AI played that style as well. Just mass marines and tanks. Zerg just mass roches and ravagers.

[@cosmicyoke]

All about the player’s skill

[@scarletspidernz]

It's balance You can get rid of all other Terran units leaving Terran with MMM+Tanks+Ghost and Z & P will still require Tier 4 units to beat T

[@pinguthelightning]

@@scarletspidernz Yeah, thats the thing, it takes zerg at least 2-3 minutes more to be able to deal semi-consistently with MMM+Tanks, and when you face a guy like Clem, you don't have that time, and you just get steamrolled

[@urazoktay7940]

Amazing video, i thoroughly enjoyed it, thank you Winter for the amazing Starcraft 2 content.

[@lordpickaxe788]

"The Frenchman should know the dangers of an overzealous monarchy" 😂

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

Clem fielding an entire Marine company in Game 6, tanks were literally an afterthought.

[@patatica]

Even better than MMM+WM, just MM: All that you need to clear ground and skies against almost every composition.

[@DaHermitGamer]

Day was already looking fine with another cast from Winter. But what cemented the smile on my face was the Trogdor reference.

[@Fourhand1917]

Very glad to (haha) make it for the 1500 likes. Been listening (and sometimes watching) for a few hundred and still enjoy it. Haven't played ladder in years but it's still fun to watch, and even more just to hear your commentary.

[@anarchosnowflakist786]

52:00 clem kills his own siege tank

[@chloesmith4065]

Nobody's perfect 😊

[@anarchosnowflakist786]

@@chloesmith4065 actually that siege tank was secretly a traitor so it's fine

[@Compulsive_LARPer]

And wins anyway. What a Chad.

[@TheHalogen131]

Yeah, these games were clearly stressful for Clem.

[@matiashamalainen7965]

And it doesn't even matter because MMM is just so absurdly strong. It's hilarious.

[@kylejohnson7053]

“Talk softly and carry a big nydus worm” lol

[@JROCK2000-wuv-u]

I think I have a new favorite quote "Talk softly and carry a big nydus worm" - Winter 2024 Dark Vs Clem

[@unclenchasbestos]

I much prefer the Clem series when he loses at least one. This was good! I also watch almost literally only winter and not much other sc2

[@chiefyk]

I dislike how they've slowly over time made all the standard Zerg units worse, leaving us to rely more and more on spellcasters, which isn't fun to play and doesn't feel zerg-y

[@krajekdev]

have you seen game 1?

[@ivancicprimoz3678]

and they removed the better zerg spellcasters to boot. like infestor is pretty much useless in most situations. how about some defilers with dark swarm to really make a difference, or queens with spawn broodling for a better viper.

[@cavemantero]

so stupid...the queens block everything

[@TheNerdForAllSeasons]

​@@ivancicprimoz3678 >Infestor doesnt erase entire Terran armies with one spell >DURRRR ITS USELESS Zerg players need to switch to checkers, it's more your speed.

[@natemeier2908]

Micro-able hydras???

[@No0bylein]

1500! I was there! Thank you very much! And a really nice series for that as well =)

[@loudaccord]

Congrats on getting to 1500, your consistency is impressive.

[@Sovieski13]

Amazing games, and an amazing cast! thank u Winter

[@patatica]

Please god! Should exist a mod to auto naming queens: Karen, Susan, Patricia ....

[@izaakkemp8938]

29:25 i think you need to adjust your microphone to let Brenda scream

[@SikoMC]

i got a feeling that the amount of likes our dear winter wants at the start of each video represents the number of matches he already casted for us.. could that be true?! much love from switzerland

[@zaraax9890]

The 109 marine wave for the W was epic ! thx for the vid :)

[@MrJust2times]

This Reaper harras is so broken

[@TheTimelyTurtle]

29:33 Look who's back Back again Brenda's back And it's time For revenge!!!! 😂

[@TheRealLavant]

That's a hilarious amount of marines.

[@theadventuresofnekosnowbal7285]

52:00 - Clem destroys his own tank while trying to attack a creep tumour!

[@kabutothedragon]

What are those passive cards at 0:15?. Do they work in game or just for fancy?

[@alexmineru]

Its just for the funny on stream, pokes fun at what the players are good at

Dark vs Clem makes my day a whole lot better!

[@javiersanjuan9452]

One of the best games in the past weeks!!!!! CRAZY!

[@jimdelsol1941]

In the last game, I have no idea what the zerg is supposed to do.

[@spitzhorneule]

Its insane to me that zerg can do nothing than try to "outplay" the early terran bullshit. Every single game the same

[@mattheopichetti9258]

Clem insta killing his own tank carrying medivac. Ruthless

[@Matt-ln7lb]

It's kind of crazy how Zerg drops are basically just now really starting to enter the meta (as in the past month or two). Baneling drops have been a thing in the past, but stuff like dropping 4 roaches or 8 lings (minimal investment drops), was never really part of Zerg's gameplan in the past, except that one time when drops were hatch tech and it completely broke ZvP.

[@Ben-bs6qv]

Look who's back, back again, Brenda's back!

[@ucfj]

Hatchery Owners Association is the only HOA I can get behind

[@ezpk-]

Dark is ranked #1 by Dark and in my heart.

[@WoWFREAK1336]

Love your casts, find your giving personality to Brenda and company great... haven't been a fan of the begging for likes, but Hatchery Owner's Association finally did it and got me past the begging for likes thing... take your likes, you just earned all of them.

[@TheTechnomancer23]

Hellbats = Trogdor! Great reference mate!

[@theanti-hypemonitor9079]

Darks Zerglin micro in game 3 is so FUCKING SICK

[@matiashamalainen7965]

So basically the only way to win against terran is to go for an all in that hits before terran can start truly abusing medivacs.

[@vietnamabc2290]

Or more likely just Clem, Serral kills everyone else just fine 😅

[@matiashamalainen7965]

@@vietnamabc2290 At the moment maybe, but in the future more and more terrans will reach that level. It's just how the game is designed at the moment.

[@ruby4vigor]

My day just became a little...bit...better

[@Fanaro]

El Dorado seems like a map created for Clem.

[@Kumabear700]

Great vid!

[@patrickrieux-u6b]

I don't have many friends who watch sc2 but this was shared with all of them!

[@maximefortin3442]

I like your teathral character when I watch your streams. Thanks a lot

[@patrickstagz4699]

I can’t even picture Brenda or Susan as a princess, I bet they were born old

[@michalpiotrgorecki]

VIPERS TO CLEAN TANKS? HE HAS CLEM! 51:58

[@1Mackinzoid]

A new character arises! (At least for me). Karen: the meat shield.

[@jeremyadamson9618]

Incredible to watch! Damn

[@uncletimo6059]

am old "mr zergatchev, tear down this wall" got me GOOD. now git off my lawn

[@singletrack4956]

DARK IS SO Crazy

[@urazsoktay5275]

"Stop right there criminal scum!" Was that an Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion reference?

[@sam-x9z9k]

u make me laught so easily "KAARENN? Kaaaarrrennn!!"

[@Val-dx6zo]

In case anyone is wondering if winter actually keeps track of the numbers, or just makes them up as he goes along, I just went back to his previous video and double checked. It was 1499.

[@Dubafu]

We made it bois, finally hit 1500

[@sesionesmermelada8293]

keep the roachs out they dont wanna go back no more no more no more no more keep the roaches out they dont wanna go back no moooooooreeee

[@chloesmith4065]

Would've been cool if he had a few more seconds for the others lurkers

[@xdzx9560]

1500 likes, lets goooo! Keep at it winter.

[@korbendallas1038]

Great series !

[@PeekABeeGaming]

How about rotating races during matches for clem and the gang? And my apm is so high, what could go wrong?

[@rvgr12]

that opening reaper, wow.

[@Dodosama-kv1ze]

hitting his own tank in the medivac ---> not even clem can beat clem

[@Therunner77452]

Idea for a creative tournament…. All mirror matchups. If it would be a not mirror matchup, take Clem v Reynor for example, both players play the race that neither of them are, so in this scenario, PvP. A TvZ would be PvP. And then if there is a mirror matchup let them play their mirror match or agree to play a mirror match of a different race. I think it would be hilarious 😂 not to mention the possibility of seeing Reynors toss against Clems. Or Clem’s Zerg against MaxPax as Zerg…

[@daniel-44366]

is there any reason reapers don't try to kill larva? Does not count for the cost of the drone or do they have more health or is it just better to stop the drones from mining for a little?

[@kimnasstrom1919]

Is it possible to reaper grenade bounce your own siege tank to avoid corrosive bile?

[@christine-no8ml]

Karen Queen: Let me talk to your manager.

[@jorgerodriguez1636]

A TRUE BANGER!

[@scarletspidernz]

It's wild Watching LowKo's latest video that drop today where Clem absolutely dominated the games, and then here he struggles at times, Is Clem's Toss now better than his Terran?

[@TenebraeTim]

Clem needs a nerf in the next patch

[@gblessbacon]

Clem deserves a 10 on his card now. He is the 10 of Terran. Serral is the 10 of Zerg. There is no 10 of Protoss (Love ya Maxpax but not there yet).

[@NithipoomWong]

what about herO?

[@michaelscott33]

You’re wrong. There are multiple 10’s in Protoss. The scales are relative, you realize?

[@NithipoomWong]

@@michaelscott33 how come are there multiple 10 in protoss while clem card is just 9?

[@ninjadejedi]

Well, his micro and speed aka attack is 12 but his defend is still lacking that is why it's 8.

[@lefthanded0440]

CLEM IS THE GOAT. 2X destroyed serral, destroyed the final boss… I’m sorry his card should have an 11 on top

[@jorgtebartz6716]

1500🎉 Thx for your amazing videos.

[@sammyfantastic]

Early Terran harass: Fast, ranged, can jump walls, has bombs, can deny base, heals super quick, changes course of whole game. Early Zerg harass: Can run melee units very slowly towards you in a straight line. Getting old.

[@Schacal6666]

Love Darks crazy I don’t give af play style the most. Thats how you treat Terran: don’t give af because they have it easier anyway so let’s rollt the dice

[@anonymous-k2l6n]

Does anyone know where Winter gets the player rankings from? Thank you very much 😀

[@LilyphiIia]

liquipedia most likely