StarCraft 2: Mutation Mission... Too Difficult?!

This week's mutation mission called "Shir Chaos" in StarCraft 2 is incredibly tough.
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This mutation mission brings a new Mutator to the game called "Just Die!". This Mutator makes it so that units that were killed, immediately revive themselves and start fighting once again. Resulting in an extremely powerful army.
The mission is played on the Chain of Ascension, the Rak'shir co-op mission. While normally this mission is relatively straight forward, with this much extra life and with the added infested Terrans, it becomes extremely difficult.
I did not complete the mission today, however I don't plan on giving up just yet. If there any good suggestions out there for me to try out, definitely let me know and I may give this a try later on in the week.
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[@Shakon95]

New plan : We are going to do the same thing

[@justinthompson6364]

I know, right? *sigh*

[@vitorleite3095]

Out of ideas for this mutation lol

[@hyrulehallow2561]

Yup

[@Urza26]

Lowko, here's a couple of tips for Kerrigan. In the early game, try to prioritize creep. First queen do creep before inject because Kerrigan is your main army and you want the creep as far out. Get heroic upgrade first before armor or weapon. This together with the creep lets you solo first two waves without zerglings. Make the zerglings but conserve them. You made dozens of them die for no reason when Kerrigan alone is enough. With the creep spread up very early, you can jump onto a static defense and immediately jump back. This kill the static defense and cause some of the nearby AI to aggro. But they'll be fighting Kerrigan on creep and she can solo them, even with double life as long as there's not another wave. If you did this, you can clear the expansion *much* more quickly than any of your attempts here. Remember, she gains shields as she deals damage, so even though they've double life, their dps isn't necessarily doubled so she *can* stay alive. In the normal non-mutation brutal, Kerrigan alone can be relied upon with no units until the very last two waves of most maps. When the enemy is mostly high tech ground units without much anti-air, you can consider having a mutalisks task force that focus on weakening waves vulnerable to air. Late game, brood lords should also be considered against these kinds of armies against the hybrid wave. Ultras are great but very often their pathing screws up when your ally is also heavy ground based army like Artanis. I've been playing mostly Kerrigan since the start of co-op and while your mechanics are great, I think you should do more to abuse her power. And I mean the hero herself. You've been doing well with her units for the most part.

[@TheIndignation]

I find in a lot of cases that Zerglings and their upgrades, while good, are often a waste since Kerrigan can solo early and if you skip Zerglings+their tech you can get up to higher tech units and upgrades more quickly. Saving money on lings and melee upgrades means more Hydras (and sooner) and faster Ultras too.

[@hyrulehallow2561]

Yup

[@JayborinoPlays]

Hot damn, this one sounds fairly tough, but looks even harder than I imagined!

[@lucdaniel1020]

JayborinoPlays you give it a try jay! I was just done watching your previous co-op missions. It was pretty intense.

[@ivanangeli]

could the dark pylon be used to make cloak field, and then put a lot of cannons around it, so melee units can;t reach it, withouth detection?

[@sillysaili]

whoa ivan i had the exact same thought

[@AlexanderCsorba]

Hey Jayborino! Fancy seeing you here, I love your videos! you helped me so much with the brutal campaign missions :D

[@palsbro89]

24:19 dat Ji'nara scream

[@nqh4393]

For someone without mouth, she sure is a mouthful...

[@CtG-Games]

Attempt 1: From the replays I've seen, building two Spine Crawlers before 2 minutes seems to be the most effective way to defend early. Artanis used his calldown abilities well. Attempt 2: I recommend prioritizing Kerrigan's upgrades. At least Chain Reaction since that helps out so much vs the enemies. Artanis should have saved Solar Bombardment for the 2nd Hybrid. Attempt 3: Yeah, I recommend getting Heroic Fortitude early on for Kerrigan, and let her tank so you lose fewer Hydralisks early on. You need Ultralisks or Broodlords before pushing the enemy bases. You should also start thickening your defenses before 20 minutes to keep the Aberrations off your base. Attempt 6: Nope, Karax has Sentinels. Artanis has Zealots. Static defense does not revive. Use Kerrigan's leaping strike on them first to take them out immediately. Artanis needs more Reavers or Storms to deal with the enemy composition. Attempt 7: Vorazun and Kerrigan are both late-game oriented. It's already a tough combination to begin with. You need to play extremely well to not lose in the early game. Attempt 8: A pair of Spine Crawlers would have held on without any losses. Then you can rush the Baneling Nest off 1 Extractor and get those free Banelings. Attempt 9: There are three types of Zerg enemy compositions. The Roach one does not have Banelings, but it has Lurkers and Ultralisks. The Banelings one has Scourge. And the Mutalisk one has Broodlords. You can tell by the 2nd wave what exact type of composition you're facing. Here are my tips: If you insist on running Kerrigan or Zagara, you need a defensive commander like Swann or Karax for your ally. You need to defend infested waves more efficiently. Losing units to them is not great. But you need to go full offense once you're stable. Let your ally handle the defense to preserve your own army. Nathanias and I have each beaten this on Brutal as Raynor. His bio can really snowball, and it's very easy to replace them with 10+ Barracks and 6 Orbital Commands. This mutation does not have AOE mutators so bio is extremely viable. I found that stability and safety are the most critical considerations. We need static defense very early, and more static defense as we take our expansions. Then add more of those as the reviving Aberrations hit at 20 minutes.

[@CtG-Games]

Feel free to watch me do just that on my replay. I uploaded it on my channel. :P

[@HanBurritoz]

What? Feedback in the KZbin comment section? A sincere comment giving constructive feedback without sounding arrogant or ignorant! Coming from somebody who watched the video first before commenting? What year is this?

[@JR-cr2zg]

HanBurritoz should watch CtG's channel. He has been doing Starcraft 2 weekly mutation from the very first it was launched. Very impressive plays. There are also forum on battle net and reddit after each mutation he had done so others can have the ideas.

[@hyrulehallow2561]

How many time did you watch this and how much free time did you have to write this my god I read it all good tips so I might use this even though the mission probably do t come back

[@RichardPlumpa]

CtG mm

[@9618281]

I love the fact that you are showing your failed attempt. It shows how hard the mission really is and it's entertaining!

[@axelistant]

Wow, can't believe this was 4 years ago. Time does fly.

[@nukeofficial1103]

Remember guys, use lowkos tipps: "Whenever there is a Video on KZbin with over 15 minutes, just skip about one third and you'll be perfect" - LowkoTV 2016

[@judianx]

Nuke Official exactly - but on Punday Monday, just tell your wife your eyebrows are drawn on too high. She'll look surprised ;)

[@akak325]

The hybrids DO come back btw

[@gundamnit5936]

Saw the little bonus triangle flying around on the mini map before super fast, was like this is gonna be good. You did not disappoint. lol

[@alemayehusolomon941]

I know this videos is a bit older, but I wanted to thank you for being such a good sport and actually posting your losses! Nothing wrong with that, and honestly makes people like me (silver player) feel way better! More power to you my friend, and I hope your channel continues to grow! I value your input and commentary.

[@tusk3260]

1 word: Stukov

[@johnnyroyal6404]

hybrids ressurect

[@haibigboy]

Hello 360p my old friend I've come to talk with you again,

[@SuperREIGN20]

Hai Nguyen lolz I'll come back later

[@jacobskarda]

hooray 1080p is live

[@HiopX]

Because the vision slowly loading Left no data while I was watching

[@marekr.1384]

Lowko: hybrids don't come back, video: they do

[@tarisco614]

Thanks man. Last day before work starts again and I get a hr and a half. Better than Christmas.

[@destructoidbot6426]

Tony614 couldn't agree more I love these co op missions it's so fun to watch !

[@adrianmalinowski1073]

Lowko plz, mass scourges as Zagara is core to most maps

[@KikipasBG]

Hey Lowko, I managed to complete it twice on brutal with probably 30+ failed attempts. So here are few tips: 1. Abathur is by far the best commander for this mutation. There are just tons of biomass around and the units get buffed up pretty fast. 2. He pairs up good with defensive commanders like Karrax or Swann (if you prefer to play safer). 3. If u like to be more offensive, you can pair Abathur with Nova or Vorazun -with Vorazun make sure you put dark pylons (buffed with range from mastery points) near each base and surround those with buildings. This way the attackers can't reach the pylons and derp out. The abbarations later on become harmless. Make sure all buildings in the base are invisible. Do the same with the expos and defend only against the big waves, which bring detectors. -with Nova focus on mec. Those siege tanks do great when pushing bases. Support them with raven turrets and goliaths/hellbats. And put tons of static defense around. You will have the resources after the 20-th min. mark. When pushing the last base stop defending at all and push for victory. It will look more or less like a base trade, but should work out fine. Hole this was helpful :) Cheers!

[@CloudSephiroth]

You can do it lowko! You're so pro!

[@hhhhghh]

This one is so difficult.. won it with Karax + Vorazun (vs zerg).

[@robingoodfellow8097]

Just got it on brutal with Abathur and Artanis. Was against protoss air. I massed ravagers and around 20 queens. We basically pushed together until the aberration started spawning. Then I sent my ally to do full time defending, while I push with the huge army. The corrosive bile was very helpful.

[@tzristin]

Nice video and well played. Haven't tried out yet but Karax looks like a good choice for this mutation. Best static defenses and phoenix, which is probably the only unit that could dodge the bonus objective boss' rapid stun.

[@kingbane2]

this week's mutation is INSANE! i'm pretty sure karax is a must have for this.

[@karlwilzen]

kingbane2 Done it twice without Karax.

[@iglidor]

Yeah with Karax it was manegable. Solar beam on first hybrids, few turrets for defense of mains, ally cleared secondaries which I fortified and from there we slowly pushed forward with monoliths agroing always only few enemies at once from those defense checkpoints. Altough we were probably lucky since we got Skytoss as enemy and those turrets were dealing with enemy pheonix attacks perfectly

[@deviantan021]

1:13:13 the best moment, laughed my ass off when those tanks sieged :D

[@awrawrwar]

The elemental nyooming around and just tossing out the titan jails is the funniest thing i've seen in SC2

[@robingoodfellow8097]

One of the things I learned in co-op is that you need to change up your unit composition against different enemy units. Like the protoss ground. It is very strong against pure hydras, but if you add in some brood lords, the broodlings can soak up the damage and brood lords don't really die since enemy has no anti air

[@custersword7746]

43 minutes in "zerg? this is perfect for us" checks video length... "it was not perfect, but it will be entertaining."

[@paulm4258]

The Hybrid override units near the Heros. Need to rush the Hybrids ASAP. Save all spell for the Hybrids. Great Video as always Lowko!

[@IdkMaybeShawn]

yep, a lot of people don't realize that units near the fight don't matter at all until the hybrids are dead. It's frustrating when your partner splits his units like that and it costs you the game.

[@paulm4258]

The hybrids are a resource drainer. They literally half your army unless you go in 100 % But then there are the little skirmish groups that constantly pop in and out. Lots of fun!

[@stygian6623]

Love your vids Lowko!

[@Liverator]

The way the 3rd mutator was worded made it seem like the units would never die.

[@markokerve1578]

Lowko hybrids do come back.

[@RainStorm148]

seems like Spirit TV are running Vorazun - Karax. might be a good idea to have Karax tower up the paths leading to your bases while Vorazun rushes to DTs as fast as possible. would be kinda tricky to pull off too.

[@megafex]

24:20 dude the power of Hybrids push it to the pit xD, when you do the custom mutation ?

[@Elfis99]

the Hyperion solos the bonus, but as soon as I saw you walking toward it with hydras, I was like heh they're doomed.

[@Zibit21]

Seems like perfect mission for Abathur.

[@Keffalos]

Hey Lowko... just finished this an hour ago with a combination of Karax/static deff only + vorazuns voidrays vs Tossair. Saw some videos where other ppl managed to do this, and mostly theyve gone for airunits. Especially Abathurs and vorazuns Air can be strong enough to clear the map mostly solo, if u get the right enemy unit composition.

[@admiralzephyrraver7776]

Maybe try Alarak, Lowko? Alarak's Vanguards will be very useful against ground and slayers for air. You could also try Nova. With her powerful unit composition, she might handle the attack waves, the only thing is, you cannot reinforce quickly with Nova. You can try Raynor using BioBall, I guess.

[@kylethekidable]

im curious, do the elemental stasis attacks affect buildings? If not you could quickly fight your way to the spawn point with karax and drop a pylon and some cannons and boom easy kill.

[@cheungyanho1997]

I think kerrigan is fine but why don’t you try to use nydus lowko??

[@calming_cat]

I also think Karax + Artanis is another good combo since shield over charge, guardian shell and reconstruction beam will buff the duration of the units significantly.

[@Ichigamaru]

Hi Lowko. I made a very good strategy that work realy well. You will need a Vorazun and a "quick start" commander. The idea is use the Dark Pylon (with mastery) to cloak the entire base against the infested (building around the pylon for protection)! I completed with a Raynor buddy as we just leave the base behind while we watched the aberrations do nothing, just standing still.

[@paulm4258]

I did something very similar. Completed it on Hard but not successful on Brutal. It is a good strategy because the computer does not always send detection with its mini raiding parties and they really do just stand there. Vorazun and Karax have been my most successful teaming. Karax simply turtles the base and builds down the strip. Vorazun takes out hybrids with calldowns with support from karax.

[@thomasgao9312]

I did complete this one. A good strategy: Use Vorazun's timestop for every major push (4 hybrids, 2 enemy bases), use Dark Templar and Corsair(upgrade cloak and disruption web IMPORTANT,). This should do when teaming with any commander, but best with Artanis for the obvious reason.

[@ghn5263]

It reminds me of Husky Starcraft's IMBA League Zombies

[@Knalle_]

Hype, been waiting for this :)

[@andremarquesmanata7298]

simple question, what would had happen if you had placed a building behind the two fighting gods?

[@tycrenshaw6968]

good luck looks crazy!

[@justinthompson6364]

1. why the glowing enemy infestors? 2. do banelings get to explode twice?

[@GiantTurdXx]

1:30:30 Lowkos face sums it all up.

[@XalencelfGames]

love you, lowko:D

[@ChinoNguyen]

Vorazun cloaks building on high ground to block the entrance, the same with other entrance but tiny hole to pass; places a dark pylon near the pit. Vorazun must expand before 2nd hybrid. Karax builds cannon to defend the dark pylon, give Vorazun 1 gas in expansion after 2nd hybrid, build carrier in the end. Must aim detector first! Good luck.

[@andrey7z]

what if you play raynor artanis and when the hybrids appear you just solar bombardament them using the vision with raynor

[@InsanePorcupine]

I wonder if using lurkers or swarm hosts would be good here? Playing with vorazun means they will ressurect if they die as long as they are burrowed, and a lot of this seems like defence. So make a bunch of lurkers use dark pylons to warp them around for defence, and if they die the rez. Just a thought anyway.

[@jonathenrookie3576]

Use the mutalisk and brood lord combo to counter the mass of units. And the cannons. That should soften your enemies for ally support. Just for future attempts.

[@kielonp.2427]

Try Vorazun + Artanis. Black Hole for minions and Time Stop + Solar Bombardment for hybrids.

[@fenixangelzamo]

i think the combo of sky zerg brood lord and corruptur + kerrring hydra ultra ?

[@brusnwicker]

Karax focus the defence and suport atk with kerrigan ou zagara

[@lingzhou6067]

Won with Vorazun Karax on double Brutal. Karax full defend, Vorazun full assault. The trick is that you use black hole on every incoming attack wave (the ones marked with a red diamond on the map). For some reason, the AI is kinda messed up when speed freaks in in play, they will hit your base, then suddenly turn around and run away, then run back in. This makes it EXTREMELY difficult for Karax to effectively use his powers on the attack waves, but with black holes, they get locked down and are easy pickings for his energy based powers. I didn't even have to cheese the final wave with Vorazun's timestop. Just save every timestop to use with a Hybrid spawn, and it's easy to win against them. If you need to, chain a black hole to the end of the timestop duration to further extend the disabling. My composition with Vorazun: DTs/Stalkers + Corsairs core. Once you get your second base up finish upgrading zealot charge and stun and dump excess mins into zealots. Finish up on the high end with some void rays if you fancy them. The DT multi-slash and corsair disruption webs are must have abilities, and need to be prioritized. This one was certainly difficult, but honestly I had less issues with it than some of the other mutations in the past (on Brutal difficulty).

[@svimle511]

"I'm out of batteries for this camera" - Lmao..

[@jakubkahoun8383]

I completed brutal difficulty this week...on like 30th try. Was super difficult and i was super lucky. Vorazun{90] plus Abathur[me/85]. Not using time stop glitch, but many stealth pylons must be very well placed. Abathur full air, i spent all my leftover minerals on spires. Vorazun went all DT. It was verzus zergs.

[@grandiflora8479]

lowko, i dont know if somebody told you already but in this mission the hybrid spawn based on how far youve gone not how long its gone, so the final group of hybrid wont spawn untill your almost there

[@JR-cr2zg]

At a certain time, the Hydrids will appear regardlessly where the Champions are. Otherwise most players will delay to push in order to max out and this mission is no longer a challenge. Giving advice with fault information is not very good!

[@grandiflora8479]

ive never had the hybrids apear becuse of the timer so i didnt know, thanks for correcting me

[@JJMetaliki]

And, lowko, LOOK AT THE BATTLE WHEN IT HAPPENS! The hybrids WERE reviving...

[@RedGunnerguy]

We WON!!!! Vorzun with Artanis. DT DA with zealots tempest. And to build cannons esp in later game to counter the aberrations. Plus constant upgrading and protecting the expansions. With the DT DA you can counter any ground forces and steal units. The tempest can snipe down units for afar. Zealots for defense. More importantly was to coordinate the timestop/black hole with solar bombardment to kill the hybrids.Force them to stay still and die. They can be one shot with that combo. Like at 10:20 Of course we faced a protoss enemy, so no idea against Terran or Zerg. And of course, screw the damn bonus. Look forward to when you eventually overcome this one. Esp if you manage to do this with the zerg commanders.

[@PierreFerreira978]

wtf that movement speed is INSANE

[@gtafbi1]

try using karax and abathur. abathur's inject locust could be very porfull against respawning enemies, that is if it has a probability of being triggered by respawned enemies that dies again. have karax build static defences at your pit and base entrances and eventually transition into carriers? have abathur build a pile of roaches/ravagers, maybe some dedicated aa. the first hybrid wave might be difficult with this setup, but the remainder of the game should be significantly easier. make sure to deploy abthur's forces and whatever few zealots karax kan deploy, against the first hybrid wave, assisted by abathur heal and karax bombardment.

[@Rob-sf4xy]

this make me want to play star craft again

[@Bojack361]

Stukov, and Karax or swan. Infested terran is the perfect offense and they come with super effective anti air and liberator siege tank combo. Then you will outnumber your opponent even if you gotta killem twice

[@Lashnakh]

Is that the Abathur voice pack? I guess they do work in Co-op. Does it go by which race your Commander uses or can you choose which Commander gets which one?

[@jkobain]

Banelings, eliminated, exploded. Revived. Pain.

[@hiway19891]

When you're team up with Karax or Swan to run full defence, you can keep your expand but you lose on hybrid run, when you're not with them, you couldn't even keep your base after 20 min when they start to have Liberator/Nukes/Brood Lords/Archon.....ect

[@Bayside39]

id personally run Karax and Alarak or Abathur. Gluck Lowko!

[@AIzek34]

finally done this one!!

[@andremarquesmanata7298]

would they pass through or would it actually stop them?

[@LordMelchett11]

Took me a few times (With hard failures) but eventually pulled it off. I played Vorazun with my partner as Nova. The trick is to somehow make it through the early game which is pretty tough when you virtually have no army. :) After that the late game is much more manageable. I guess you also need some luck with the opposing army composition. Anyway - would be nice to team up with you if you still haven't gotten around to nail it.

[@SupremeVelocity01]

I hope you try again, just like the unit morphing mission. INSPIRE!!!!!!!

[@user-fs7zv5zj6h]

Lowko TV is the best at all the commander.

[@Sulilol]

No joke, I finished this mission on brutal on the first attempt with myself playing Vorazun and my mate playing Nova against a zerg opponent. I sealed our entries with increased range dark pylons and a small amount of static defenses making the attacks against the base a joke. After that dark templar and corsair with timestop for the hybrids and vortex for every other wave made this mission not difficult at all. We were using the teleport from Nova and some pylons i placed in the middle of the map aswell to reposition quickly. You could do that with kerrigans nydus as well. Hope it helps. :)

[@MateuszGB]

Lowko - use scourge which are really good! but only build them if you have the Hive tier upgrade that make them cost 50 less gas. That splash upgrade will make them destroy enemy air! :)

[@moii3345]

When he decided to play Kerrigan my first thought was "didn't he learn his lesson in previous missions? That Zagara suppresses Kerrigan in hard missions?".

[@kirillbobrovskikh1174]

I wonder if playing zagara you build several baneling nests will they all produce free banelings?

[@justinthompson6364]

yup

[@jakubhlubucek5028]

in theory yes, but you can't build more than 1 so no ;)

[@soulseptem5281]

when i saw the picture for this mission im like wow hes finally gona play alarack! but he didnt ;(

[@TheIndignation]

I was almost able to beat it just now playing Vorazun with a Karax partner defending. Even with a max 3/3 army with about 50 DT's and near as many Stalkers, my stuff all broke while trying to attack their later bases. We were against Terran mech so there were a lot of tanks. I lost most of my forces and my allies defenses were starting to break when the last hybrid wave hit at 30 and we lost. I have heard that you can skip the final hybrid wave by using time stop right before you'd trigger them, or right before they spawn ~30minutes, and then push to win then. Maybe I can pull that off on the next attempt, but it's rough! I think I should try Corsairs instead of Stalkers next time, since the Disruption Web can render their siege tanks useless. Stalkers aren't too good but I needed some anti-air.

[@rasmasyean]

Vorazun seems like the easiest. It might be a cheese, but you can cloak and wall your bases with buildings and stuff like that. And I hear you can route the undead this way to a choke def. It helps A LOT to keep bases alive without too much intervention, which is Lowko's mistake in all of these matches I think. TS also delays hybrid timer so you can abuse it. Maybe you wanna try Swan, because wraiths can cloak (i.e. resurrect) and avoid the ground while increase damage.

[@kevinwang4537]

I am much reassured knowing even lowko couldn't handle it

[@gubbica99]

i bet there will be people who will say that it was such a easy mission without beating it on brutal.

[@NerdGlassGamingPA]

Sheer (Shir) Chaos ... haha get it ? jokes !

[@MELAX121630]

I have just passed it, use vorazun and enclose dark pylon for early defense, they cant hit it because of no vision, then keep building around ur dark pylon so that not even ranged infested can hit it, then when aberrations come u can forget about ur base and just play

[@Kleavers]

This one is insane.

[@Whisper555]

A few lurkers for home base defences, possibly??

[@nyadpics]

Alarak is the win this week

[@azaz6248]

Try lurkers for siege deffence massed for the ground army and maybe mutas for air ? :D

[@vasihris5956]

1:01:04 Infestor: Oh shid oh shid oh shiiiiiiiiiiid halp

[@RocksRealNice523]

What are your thoughts on "Has"'s playstyle? Do you think he's ever played a macro game?

[@Chaod789]

I got beat pretty bad on this one... the hybrids coming back and the bonus coming back killed me a few times. I wound up winning in the end but it took a few times.

[@hoangtrunganh]

this week is insane...

[@cassey8661]

vorazun(dt/pirate) + raynor(bio) = eazy peazy ts on every hybrid wave, hyperion on mass attack waves, great combination of black hole and aoe banshees and powerful a-click on other staff :D nice tip - place dark pilons near main/exp and block melee access to them by 4-5 cannons or 2 full bunkers. after this, u'll forget of infested waves. ) dark pilon cover must be maximazed.

[@JD867]

Don't. . . don't go for bonus on brutal mutations. That's painful to watch :P

[@hiway19891]

it's not that hard the last few weeks, but this one IS really painful

[@entylsa]

When I saw the triangle of the elemental on the minimap move so fast I already knew it was not going to be a good idea.

[@JD867]

Admittedly, it was hilarious to watch it revive.

[@WXVA9]

Often the best part of the video is Lowko's reaction when he gets wrecked by something.

[@Kaefer1973]

I wonder if they can revive during Time Stop, if they can I'd go for it with Vorazun, Killing them Hybrids once or twiche makes little diffrence while they are frozen in time, and I don't think they have any other health bonusses. edit Of course that means including anti air to anable killing all the Hybrids in the first place.

[@sfukuda512]

Mind control or reclamation. Check out CtG strat. It's all about responding to waves and minimizing the amount of army just standing around Jinara.

[@Kenshar1984]

Hi Lowko.. Quick question.. While playing Karax.. What are do the energizer units do? What should I use them for and how many should be made? Do you make them for cannons for some reason? Do they do something like the shield batteries?

[@LowkoTV]

+Kenshar1984 They mostly just increase attack speed of both units and nearby buildings. They're really good.

[@Shangxzx]

Kenshar1984 If you get Protoss mech or Terran mech, then the energizers are really good and the single unit that will win you the mutation. They can take control of mech units and of course your mech units can revive too

[@TheIndignation]

They buff allied units and buildings: it's kind of like Stim Pack for Protoss :P

[@JD867]

Energizers deploy a pylon field and buff attack speed for nearby units and buildings. Usually, when I'm defending against heavy waves as Karax I build one or two and deploy them on my defenses. They're the sole reason I get warp gates, and the sole unit I build on heavy defense maps :P

[@iglidor]

With Karax when you are going for full turret build where only your ally has mobile army it is apreciated if you build few Energizers to follow his army (simply pick one tough unit in his army and rally production to it). they cost very little minerals, mostly gas which you can live without since your basic turrets costs only minerals. By that I mean to send few as in 2-6, more is useless and even though you are less dependand on gas you still need it for some key upgrades. those few energizers can increase efectivity of his army by aprox 130% which is ussualy enough to compensate for fact that you have no army to support him. Also when having bit of time and resources, building robotic facility and sending one or two observers with teammates army is also good idea. Nothing worse then losing half of army because raynor did not have energy for scan or because your zerg teammate lost all his overseers

[@scotti-pequeno]

As a Zagara player, you need to make bile launchers at your bases in order to kill attacking packs of enemies.

[@Tenelia]

Mistakes made: 1) All enemies respawn. Hybrids and bonus objectives included. 2) If the hybrids are not dead, Ji'nara will continue to lose ground even if your armies are next to her. 3) Activating the hybrids without sufficient forces. 4) Needs more air-to-ground. Too many ground units take a long time for them to reach the enemy.

[@xpyder]

All you really need is to keep her from falling into the pit until you can kill the waves right? What about Karax+Zagara, with Karax holding ground while zag sends wave after wave of disposable bombs?

[@Federer227]

The "simple" awser is that, with the "revival" ability of all enemy units, it's like a 4x1 combat - it's too heavy for only 1 commander to hold 4 armies without extra damage to compensate for that. (at least on brutal dif)