Starfield Shattered Space Impressions Round-Up - Luke Reacts

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[@LizardSpork]

"Broadly Disappointing" should be Bethesda's company slogan.

[@belltolls1984]

It really should be.

[@Bombardier15]

Can someone explain why they take so long to make games

[@Darkslayer289]

​@@Bombardier15My guess is they don't have a focused vision. Most game companies would've done a game and a sequel between Bethesda's dev cycle.

[@Bombardier15]

@@Darkslayer289 Their game design is generally very outdated

[@Darkslayer289]

@@Bombardier15 Very true.

[@danielberry4765]

Soon as they said 1000 planets, Starfield fate was sealed.

[@leandrolezcano9524]

"1000 planets for you to explore" NO WAY 1000 planets for the modders to put things on.

[@Bro-dot-]

Exactly, would have preferred smaller, better designed planets something similar to Witcher 3 with its separated regions + mixed with random generated wild zones, similar to what they did do.

[@BlackTestament7]

@@leandrolezcano9524 LOL maybe if the modders wanted to play the game. Fallout 4 when it launched had a way better mod community behind it. They barely have anything comparable right now on the nexus. I don't even know if there's a community outside of there.

[@iamarabicandiloveamericanp7137]

1000 times the details

[@calelsun]

​@@BlackTestament71000 planets that don't add up to the exploration in Skyrim by itself.

[@NotKelloggsCornflakes]

Toxic "positivity" is a huge problem in all corners of society.

[@RikkiSan1]

It really is

[@jonny45k44]

Their mentality that ANY criticism is nearly a hate crime has been going on for too long

[@goon009]

that because society has become feminine, noe one is going to bring up the fact that "Toxic positivity" is the bases of all female relationships. why do you think the fat acceptance movement took off...

[@joshnizzle]

Yeah. Toxic negativity is too though to be fair. I hated this dlc but the toxic stuff has seeped into both sides of the discourse.

[@davidtreece3922]

I think it may be just a response to the other side. Both are annoying asf

[@Infinitysthenewzero]

I think it's interesting that Far Harbor is lauded as the best DLC Bethesda has ever done and also just happens to be the one that wasn't written by Emil Pagliarulo.

[@Panssel]

As an absurdly big fan of their games (except shitty Starfield) I won't say Far Harbor is the best. One of the best, for sure. But, shit, Shivering Isles was a master piece 😮 And I think dragonborn was also incredible. Far Harbor is for sure the best Fallout DLC from Bethesda a 100%. As far as I know Emil didn't write any TES or Fallout DLC, I could be wrong, but that would explain why most Bethesda DLCs are always better than the main story 😂

[@TrippyTheShroom]

Shivering Isles was definitely better, but I have no idea whatsoever if Emil was involved. Far Harbor was great though!

[@Mantiscular12]

Fallout 3 and skyrim dlcs were the best for the amount of content.

[@ps3beatswii]

The writing was the best, but I actively hated exploring that island. The way they handled radiation was always annoying.

[@DeanGulberry13]

i prefer Point Lookout personally to Far Harbor

[@atmosphere60]

For over 20 years the modding community have been giving Bethesda a reputation that their games are finding it increasingly hard to live up to.

[@nyx2903]

Don't blame the modding community for Bethesdas incompetence. I never used mods in any Bethesda game and I still played Oblivion, Skyrim, Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 for hundrets of hours each. Starfield? 43 hours. Starfield is just a bad game, and this is an overpriced bad DLC. It's as simple as that.

[@heyhoojoe]

@@nyx2903 I'm glad you still enjoyed the experience (even though I never could, tbh), but you don't know what you were missing! Skyrim and FO4, in particular, become 3 or 4 points better, on a scale from 1-10. If you own those games on PC, you practically owe it to yourself to start a modded playthrough what with mod lists being so easy to handle, these days.

[@Ghost_PM11]

Bethesda is not Hello Games, there is no fixing Starfield, it just won't happen.

[@invaderjoshua6280]

Oh Bethesda would fix it. But they would charge you for over a thousand paid $5-$10 dlc's hidden in their mod store to do so. They created a problem, for you to pay them to fix it. I truly believe Starfield being so bland was planned at this point to sell you fixes to your boredom.

[@MaverickHunterXZA]

Even if they would want to, they pretty much can't. From their antiquated game engine to the very approach to writing and game design. They are stuck in the past and lack the means to be better.

[@Ghost_PM11]

@@MaverickHunterXZA Pretty much, Starfield could have been a little more interesting if the writing was less bland, but that's their style.

[@shinymew2887]

they’re going to sims 4 their way out of this dilemma

[@MaverickHunterXZA]

@@Ghost_PM11 It's their almost religious adherence to KISS (Keep it simple, stupid). It's why most Bethesda things that get praised for their stories turn out to not be written bei their own head writer. For Bethesda to grow, they'd need to fundamentally restructure themselves from the ground up.

[@Lisa45423]

This is the best they can do. Microsoft significantly overpaid for Bethesda.

[@Tacitus_kilgore_1903]

I'm guessing you didn't play it and have literally no clue wtf you're talking about...

[@Blisterdude123]

@@Tacitus_kilgore_1903 I know for a fact they probably did because I did, and it was frigging tedious lmao

[@Lisa45423]

@@Tacitus_kilgore_1903 41% steam user score. I'm so sorry I hurt your feeling 😭

[@Panssel]

They overpayed because they thought Bethesda will be the same company prior Fallout 76. But they bought the actual Bethesda 😂 I honestly don't want a new TES or Fallout at this point. I personally can play Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout 4 and 3 again and again and again and don't get bored. I don't want a shitty Starfield with a TES skin 😅

[@invaderjoshua6280]

At this point I think the only thing Microsoft bought worth money when buying Bethesda is the Elder Scrolls and Fallout ip's themselves, and id who is by far one of the most talented developers for 1st person shooter games period. Why they haven't assigned id to fixing Halo, or told Obsidian to go use the Elder Scrolls and Fallout ip's I'll never understand. Obsidian and id are clearly Microsoft's golden studios at this point (other then the Forza and Activison teams). They actually make good profitable games. If I was Microsoft I'd be dissolving a lot of my under preforming studios and be funneling that funding to those two to expand them.

[@0o-0o694]

Every Bethesda game ive played have had one thing in common. The music. The music in Skyrim, and Fallout 4 is awesome. Good music in a game is a sign for how much effort developers put in. This just aight it.

[@t-rexreximus359]

@@0o-0o694 Agreed. Fallout 3 and 4 had radio stations too. Starfield could really benefit from that! Factions could each have different radio stations & DJ’s that you could download/ update as you arrive at their capital cities.

[@t-rexreximus359]

@@0o-0o694 The combat/ gun fights in Starfield could really benefit from some more modern fast paced techno, imo. I’m sure there are tons of up and coming artists who would provide BGS tracks for free to get featured in a major game.

[@GoldenLeafsMovies]

I disagree, the music in Pokemon is always peak but that doesn't mean the game itself is good.

[@RocketRenton]

Jeremy Knowles did the music for Oblivion and Skyrim, Zur did the music for Starfield. I know which one I prefer.

[@t-rexreximus359]

@@RocketRenton Interesting. Shame that Jeremy didn’t do the music for Starfield too. Starfield music is not bad, but to me it is far less distinctive & engaging than Oblivion & Skyrim.

[@reidleblanc3140]

I think the only way to play a game wrong is refusal to engage in core mechanics and then getting mad that you need the core mechanics to have fun. Like people skipping the story in rpgs and then being mad they were lost, or people buying an open world exploration game and being mad they have to figure out where to go by themselves.

[@redtheyiffer]

However, objectively good game design will minimize or completely remove the chances of being lost

[@JeffHikari]

@@redtheyiffer Wait, are you trying to defend the "Yellow paint" school of directing players?

[@redtheyiffer]

@JeffHikari all I'm saying is: I'd rather take that than wasting hours not knowing what to do. There's a reason it exists, because like or not, it is needed. And saying that player frustration is preferable is just objectively wrong, frustration is never a goal.

[@leandrolezcano9524]

@@redtheyiffer not in an RPG. At all. If you don't like to read, don't play classic RPG's

[@leandrolezcano9524]

And Starfield is not an RPG. At least, not a good one. It's more a sandbox...

[@F34RDSoldier805]

The amount of Toxic Positivity around this game at launch was so obnoxious. From reviewers to gamers. The defenders were awful, but now we see how full of BS they were when people got past that honeymoon phase.

[@joshnizzle]

I’m sick of the toxic stuff on both ends positive and negative. It’s getting out of hand. I thought the dlc was awful but when i said so on Reddit I was freaking attacked by the toxic positivity crowd and hit with huge numbers of downvotes. Craziness. Then at the same time I posted and said there were a few things Star Wars outlaws did better than starfield (despite its many issues) and then I got blasted by the toxic negativity too. It’s ridiculous. It’s like where did the middle ground go with most people?

[@stellviahohenheim]

Who cares about Twitter? Just review the game bro, this guy is just seeking validation for his reviews and when he doesn't get he moans

[@joshnizzle]

@@stellviahohenheim who are you saying is seeking validation? Luke or Matty?

[@salazar591]

I'm level 150 and am still enjoying it. Everyone enjoys different things.

[@joshnizzle]

@@salazar591 I guess so lol. I finished it once and said I’d never go back. To each their own

[@CHIEFLUKE101]

The game is mid as hell. People just can't accept that. And I have no hope for the next elder scrolls.

[@UnholyDrow]

I’ve said this a lot since Starfield dropped, but I genuinely think Bethesda purposely content starves their fans so whenever they drop something their fans will gobble it up even if it’s as good as rancid milk

[@RobbaNelson]

@@CHIEFLUKE101 only 30 dollar..... God dammit

[@V7RV7R]

It's understandable I suppose. There were years of hyping this up as if it'll be the next Skyrim and even poking fun at PlayStation players that would not be able to play it Gotta be infuriating to not meet those expectations

[@AtomicPatriot]

Same

[@OldManYells]

Yeah, prior to Starfield I was really excited for Elderscrolls 6. Now i'm completely pessimistic about it.

[@reidleblanc3140]

Games that tell you to rush: this is why I enjoy Morrowind. There is urgency, but also an acknowledgement in-world that the protag is not strong enough yet, so they have to go on side quests to build skill to have a chance at taking down the boss. It’s that simple. Bethesda knows how to do it.

[@jasonlopez6062]

"Its almost like im a fan of BGS and im disappointed to see how far they've fallen and i want them to do better" you said it perfectly my friend💯

[@gowary]

That's why i call it STANSfield 😂🤣

[@empiricalsmut9419]

"If you don't like it, just stop playing" has to be the most braindead retort ever

[@DubberRucks]

Either that or "you're just playing it wrong" as though that immediately invalidates your experience with the game as to why you don't like it.

[@keegster1433]

7:50 reminds me of Joseph Anderson's Fallout 4 video where he coined the term "Bethesda's Bug" where like the Schrodeinger's Box paradox you don't know if a flaw of the game is a bugged feature or a developmental oversight that just isn't in the game

[@speznazz2501]

Blood and Wine 16 Euros 2016

[@joshnizzle]

@@speznazz2501 and better writing than just about anything Bethesda has ever put out possibly. Definitely better than their stuff in the last decade. The hearts of stone was amazing too. Same with the phantom liberty dlc.

[@michaelmiradezandband]

@@joshnizzle Anything CDPR writes is 10 times better than anything Bethesda has ever written, including even Morrowind, because CDPR employs actual writers, whose job is to write. The only writing team that really compares to CDPR is peak Obsidian, when they had Chris Avellone.

[@speznazz2501]

The Witcher and the cyberpunk franchise have been the Hobby of mine for about 30 years now and I have not as of yet scene games That are better then those but I am the counter opposite of objectivity here so they'll take it from me ​@@joshnizzle

[@Blisterdude123]

Blood and Wine was basically an entire videogame on its own.

[@speznazz2501]

@@Blisterdude123 also something that hasn't been surpassed by anything else specially the ending

[@jaythetitan]

I don't personally think shattered space is "new" in the sense that it was created after starfields launch. It's a theory of mine that this is a cut house varuun faction quest line that was supposed to ship with the main game last year, but they packaged it as DLC and gave it to us a year later. This DLC isn't even better than the already existing faction quest lines in the base game. As boring as exploration is and as stupid as the main story is, i genuinely enjoyed the UC vanguard and Freestar quest lines. But this DLC falls short of both of those quest lines.

[@michaelmiradezandband]

I actually agree with this. I don't know if it was originally intended to be part of the base game, but I think it was likely developed primarily at the same time.

[@MildChunkySalsa]

My only question would be why they waited such a long time to release it? Is most of the studio working on ES6? Because this should have been added like maybe a month after launch.

[@michaelmiradezandband]

@@MildChunkySalsa Because they knew they could generate a new wave of sales for the base game with the release of the DLC, especially after the mixed reception at launch. They released it a time where there was virtually no competition (as opposed to when they released the base game and had fierce competition), likely with the hopes that people looking for a new RPG fix that avoided Starfield initially would buy it now to fill the gap until Avowed, Veilguard, and whatever else is in the mix, come out.

[@TK-ui2jg]

BGS are just trash developers dominated by toxic positivity. That’s why they are scamming people for $30 on they content made a year ago

[@Square-0ne]

@@MildChunkySalsa I think they ran out of time with the base game, notably polish and fine tuning the systems as the release date approached. Will Shens talk at GDC highlights this and has more interesting insights into what went wrong during development (too many support studios, too many different teams and inefficient communication between the teams). So my guess is they delayed the part that is now the DLC to have more time refining the mostly handmade locations and also to get the base game ready for release.

[@mirusasaki]

It's funny because ShillUp usually would post something about the DLC. But they didn't because they didn't want to lose their early access privilege.

[@FlippedHands]

Yeah, he lost all credibility with his original Cyberpunk review. It's as if he lives in another dimension.

[@Thatguy36297]

Luke plays game: fans criticize him for playing the game even when he doesn’t like it Luke doesn’t play game: fans criticize him for covering a game he hasn’t played yet

[@modus18]

When I played Starfield and saw that it had the same bugs I experienced in FO4, I realized Bethesda really doesn't take pride in what they do. If I were a game company, and my reputation was that I make good games that are laughably buggy, priority NUMBER ONE would be to release a game with zero bugs to show people what I'm capable of and to ditch that reputation. Bethesda has no pride. I enjoyed Starfield, but lost respect for Bethesda. I planned to buy Shattered Space, but when I saw the price and the fact that they added no new ship parts, I decided to pass. They just keep squeezing customers and releasing the bare minimum.

[@ashleycronk3881]

I love Bethesda games but Starfield is so lacklustre that I've stopped caring when the next Elder scrolls will be properly announced

[@t-rexreximus359]

I really thought they would shadow drop loads of new gameplay mechanics & QoL improvements for the base game alongside the DLC! ..it’s wild to me that BGS are now over four times the size of the team that made Skyrim, but are putting out much less content at a glacial pace. Look how many DLC’s they had already put out for F04 a year after launch … Something seems to be going very wrong with their efficiencies behind the scenes.

[@k--music]

One side effect of scaling is red tape / bureaucracy. Could be that those with ideas aren’t able to get their ideas implemented easily. And the people who’ve been there for decades aren’t adapting to the modern RPG market

[@t-rexreximus359]

@@k--music Yeah I agree! It seems like they urgently need to restructure to make collaboration & production quicker/ easier. CDPR restructured their teams after Cyberpunk launched & then they overhauled the game & produced an epic DLC with Phantom Liberty.

[@mangaas]

Bethesda has employees working for a pay cheque, similar to workers at a coca cola bottling factory. None of them really care about the end product or story. And it shows. I wouldn't be surprised if AI was used heavily in the games writing, story, and overall character designs. The cowboy is laughable, as is the black Russian. Feels like it's all AI generated, like the prompt was "Do Skyrim and Dragon born in space!" And Chat GPT spit out Starborn.

[@ps3beatswii]

​@mangaas they're clocking in instead of LOCKING in. The industry needs that mindset back. It's what made years like 1998 and 2007 possible.

[@bedtimestories1065]

​@ps3beatswii What do you mean by lock in? Like have more passion instead of treating it as just a job?

[@nunyabizness6376]

Everyone do themselves a favor and if you haven't already buy the mass effect, trilogy, remastered version, play mass effect one and see everything that Starfield couldn't do be be done in 2007 correctly and with finesse. Style love ingenuity creativity and so forth, and so on

[@joshnizzle]

Absolutely. Hell even Star Wars outlaws got some stuff more correct than starfield and it was full of problems Of its own. lol

[@dargis49]

Totally 100% different games. Not a fair comparison.

[@joshnizzle]

@@dargis49 yea it is a fair comparison on some levels. They are both action rpgs set in space. Therefore they share some commonality. Comparing them simply by which is the better space based action rpg leaves mass effect trilogy on top in every metric.

[@nunyabizness6376]

@@joshnizzle ty

[@MassEffect1988]

As far as space based RPG's go, nothing has ever come close to the Mass Effect trilogy honestly 👍

[@JohnTheodore]

Wait, it's $30?!

[@Gubbins_McBumbersnoot]

Yup. A DLC that’s worth $10 is being shilled for 3 times that.

[@DubberRucks]

Yep $30. Just imagine how many indie games you could get for the price of this with a bit more money sense. 😂

[@ronin4303]

Should be worth $5. How this shit plays

[@isthatyoursomnomnom]

I do not understand Starfield fanbois. At all. THIS is the game you're going to defend? Really? It's ok to love Bethesda AND expect/demand more than they have been producing. You can do both. Goodgawd. 🙄

[@antagonistes_]

People on the internet really do choose to die on the strangest hills. Of all the games out there, they chose Starfield...

[@danielmiller5348]

Saaame… I’ll defend Bethesdas and what they’ve done, I’ll preorder ESVI, and give them that last chance. But I’m not defending this trash. Also ESVI could very likely be the last game of theirs I buy blindly, which I’m sure is true of many fans. That’s their last chance. Fingers crossed.

[@joshnizzle]

That’s what I told fools on Reddit who blasted me. It’s ok to like somethjng or a company and still call out the flaws and say this isn’t good enough. I was told maybe BGS games aren’t for me or maybe I was playing it wrong.

[@ronin4303]

Like people will die on hills that make sense. But dying on a hill to defend…Starfield. Like there are hundreds of just better games and choose to defend the most 5-6/10 game ever😂

[@Dekipoo]

I'm convinced that people that liked Starfield have shit taste in games.

[@michaelmiradezandband]

It's just a cascading effect of cognitive dissonance. If they accept that Starfield is bad, they accept that Bethesda is fallible. If they accept Bethesda is fallible, they concede that criticisms of past Bethesda products are valid. If they accept that those criticisms are valid, they accept that they've spent hours of their life arguing to defend something that is not worth defending.

[@Dekipoo]

@@michaelmiradezandband 10/10 comment.

[@johnnyflannigan136]

Even Skyrim sucks... Compared to starfield its amazing but I tried to replay it this year and quit after 20 hours.. Story sucks...quests suck... Voice acting and writing is horrible

[@michaelmiradezandband]

@@johnnyflannigan136 I don't know that I'd say it outright sucks, but it's certainly mediocre. I don't really care for it personally, but at the very least, the world of Skyrim was a labor of love, even if the writing and mechanics are barely passable.

[@joshnizzle]

I had some fun playing a few missions like the parallel universe quest or something but for the most part it was a huge letdown in every way.

[@Railmesenz]

I reinstalled Starfield so I could play the dlc. Played it for 2 hours and uninstalled. I was so bored bruh

[@Panssel]

Glad I'm not the only one 😂

[@tcampbell397]

I fell asleep the first hour

[@JavideRivia]

So you are stoopid?

[@octavianpopescu4776]

I reinstalled it to prepare for the DLC, but I didn't get the DLC. I wait to see what a game is like before I buy and I'm not going to get the DLC. I'm honestly not seeing anything to wow me. And I'm saying this as someone who liked Starfield.

[@kavid8120]

I literally said the game was gonna be lame and boring before it ever dropped. My friends didn’t wanna believe me but how hard is it to realize a game with such a huge open world is not gonna suffer from emptiness?

[@Arcademan09]

This game looks bad "How can you judge it, you didn't play it" Ok I beat it, it's bad "How can you say that, you didn't do all the extra content" Ok I 100% the game, it's bad "If it's so bad why did you complete it?" There's no winning with these freaks

[@leandrolezcano9524]

@@Arcademan09 underrated comment

[@sergiodbd]

“I followed you for positivity and realness…” - realness isn’t always positive guy 😅

[@ashleycronk3881]

It's so underwhelming

[@Mitch93636]

I could say the same thing about your Mom.

[@ashleycronk3881]

@@Mitch93636 and I would agree with you

[@Mitch93636]

@@ashleycronk3881Jokes on you, my Mom is dead.

[@christopherhennessey8403]

Fallout 76 should have been fallout 5 and starfield should have been elder scrolls 6

[@D4C_LoveTrain1]

tbf, nothing wrong with trying something new, you can't fault them on that. But you can fault them on making a mess of their brand new IP.

[@DubberRucks]

I'll give you that. 👍 If it was done right it could have launched another franchise for them. But this is BGS so... yeah.

[@prekx]

Luke isn't angry, he's just disappointed..

[@joshnizzle]

@@prekx exactly. Same here. I tried to explain that to fanboys on Reddit and they blasted me for it. I tried to say look I wanted to love this game when it released and had such high hopes for it but it just fell short in every metric

[@RoyConwell]

RIP BGS. I own the expansion but not the base game because I played on Game Pass. I cancelled GP after the massive let down that is Starfield and I will never resub. Consider that money my parting gift Todd, in thanks for FO4 and the titles that preceded it, because you have failed me for the last time lol.

[@Multifidi20]

A lot of these game companies just need to fail. And hopefully new companies just listen to the gamer and make fun games.

[@510DeshawnPlays]

This game went more sci fi than I thought it would, I’ll just mod it how i want to play it

[@Backbone420]

You keep bringing in those cool weapons, and I’ll keep using them killer. Catch a smile out there. o7

[@510DeshawnPlays]

@@Backbone420 👍🏽👍🏽😄

[@AlmostSaDiK]

@@510DeshawnPlays Bethesda said nope to that remember paid mods

[@Backbone420]

@@AlmostSaDiK 510D is a mod author. He has brought CoD weapons into SF already. And he hasn’t charged a cent for them. One of the best and most stable weapon mods you can run. Catch a smile out there. o7

[@Kat1kafka]

It's crazy how, for the last 11 years,the last good thing Bethesda has made was Far Harbor,a DLC.

[@invaderjoshua6280]

At this point I think the only thing Microsoft bought worth money when buying Bethesda is the Elder Scrolls and Fallout ip's themselves, and id who is by far one of the most talented developers for 1st person shooter games period. Why they haven't assigned id to fixing Halo, or told Obsidian to go use the Elder Scrolls and Fallout ip's I'll never understand. Obsidian and id are clearly Microsoft's golden studios at this point (other then the Forza and Activison teams). They actually make good profitable games. If I was Microsoft I'd be dissolving a lot of my under preforming studios and be funneling that funding to those two to expand them.

[@somerandom2858]

Microsoft specialty is buying IP and making it worthless, just look at Gears of War and even Halo itself.

[@TrippyTheShroom]

Seeing people so vehemently defend a business/corporation is WILD. They literally could not care about you whatsoever in any way shape or form aside from the money you toss at their slop.

[@DubberRucks]

And even when you give them money it's "thanks, NEXT!"

[@Nier73h]

Bethesda needs just dropped the Starfield franchise and move on to ES6. It's boring it's not working at least with EA BioWare when Anthem failed they moved on.

[@Saulgoodman94]

Bugthesda a studio that’s been around couple decades minimum with multiple big games but still work like it’s 2005 larian studios has more resources teams different locations across the world and bg3 beats all of bugthesda games

[@martiananomaly]

Game aint even worth pirating smh

[@Jessemar08]

JESUS! Matty said that!??? Oh thats reallly bad news for BGS

[@Blisterdude123]

Luke, why can't you understand that your mistake was not having the same opinion as some other people on the internet. Your opinion has to be wrong, because theirs is correct by default. You need to make your opinion the same as theirs, THEN you'll have the correct opinion!

[@coffee7180]

you can deny that he is hate baiting.

[@Blisterdude123]

@@coffee7180 Exactly! If he just corrected his mistake and pretended he liked the boring game, he would be 'honest' and his input would have value! You understand completely, he needs to lie about the game being below average dreck, then he will be correct and allowed to make Starfield videos.

[@krebskreblin4012]

@@coffee7180so true! You can tell he’s hate baiting because he disagreed with you! If only he agreed with you, then his content would be truthful and honest 😔

[@k--music]

Yep. Shallow writing yet again, such a generic story (another “you’re the random stranger who everyone trusts to be the savior of the universe” story about uniting npcs), no new gameplay mechanics, no new companion, no new ship parts, barely any interesting POIs, and all for the highest dlc price tag yet… elder scrolls 6 is cooked I’m afraid

[@MechaMan2012]

This notion of "I only want to focus on the positive, don't talk about the negative, don't say anything if all you have to say is negative" is toxic and not a healthy way to live. Regardless of whatever experiences you've, "only focus on the positive" is as stupid as only focusing on the negative. You need to be able to do both.

[@vytis47]

That ending felt unfinished too. not really a spoiler, but you get zero lore on their beliefs, what or who the great serpent is, why they are so extreme and so devoted etc. It's all cause '1 guy said he talked to a snake god 100 years ago'. And the most important missing lore bit, in the base game the pilgrim talked about in his logs how he fought some guy and died over and over (he went in the unity so he kept fighting him in different universes) and it was strongly implied the other person was the OJ varuun founder. I expected some sort of extended lore on the unity, the interactions the founder of the house had with the pilgrim, if the snake god is actually a starborn who started a cult. My friends and I were theory crafting so hard and considering the deep lore of TES, expected some GOOD STUFF here, and we got NOTHING. ZERO. NO EXPLANATION ABOUT ANYTHING. The DLC just randomly ends. No end of DLC loot, no explanation of how things work or happened. and NO CHOICES. It's the same ending no matter what. This was INSANELY BAD just from a lore perspective. In fallout 4, at least the crazies (children of atom) you have unexplained magical effects like radiation not hurting you, and a womens voice whispering to you. That could make you a believer even if it's not explained. In starfield? Do we have a snake talking to us, or some magical powers? Nope. Everything was SPOILERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR a science project gone wrong, experimenting with grav drive tech to move people into a state of limbo like existence. How does that make people worship a serpent god? There's nothing moving them to the cult. The children of atom, she (the voice) talks to you, guides you, makes you powerful somehow. It's enough to hook people into worshipping... I expected the first intro quest to at least let us interact with the snake god somehow during initiation. Or hear him talk to you or give you orders. There was NOTHING.

[@domuk7844]

Never follow the main bethesda quest. Dad's safer in tranquillity lane.

[@MondoMurderface]

Was a huge fan of Bethesda up till Starfield. 76 wasn't their main team and Fallout4 was okay for me. The main story was crap but the side quests were fun and the new mechanics were great. So I didn't mind the bad dialogue options. But Starfield utterly destroyed Bethesda for me. Its everything wrong with Fallout 4 and nothing new. Wow.. I can build a ship? To bad I can't do anything with that ship and fast travel makes it totally pointless.

[@Panssel]

I am a big fan of Bethesda games as well (not the company, I f**king hate Bethesda). The biggest difference I find with Fallout 4 and Starfield is that mods fixed every weak aspect of Fallout 4. I didn't find many because I honestly enjoyed the game a lot, but having the mods fixing or making this mechanics better was the thing that made me come back to this game almost every year. But Stanfield... I honestly don't think mods can fix this game. There are so many wrong things with it, and I truly think a lot of them are just unfixable. Moders are good, but they are not gods, sadly 😂 Not to mention Starfield has a very small community and most modders who work with TES and Fallout (both) don't want to do anything for Starfiel

[@joshnizzle]

Same. I wanted to love starfield as I have a huge interest in space and astronomy and loved most Bethesda games, especially the older ones. But starfield just ruined them for me.

[@MondoMurderface]

@@Panssel Mod support for Starfield is so bad. UI changes, LUT color pallets, and a bunch of cheat stuff to make it easier. Not a single attempt to fix anything or make it more immersive. Starfield modders are cooked.

[@diestormlie]

I feel like Starfield is BGS collapsing under its own weight.

[@BobBillies]

BGS fanboys are the irl versions of the crying redface wojak

[@OrthodoxRabbiBillClinton]

What’s crazy is that nobody was demanding this to be released so soon. They had a lot more time to work on this because they already were fighting uphill from the rough launch

[@themonkysuncle]

The world has become the epitome of the story The Emperor’s New Clothes😊Welcome to the Idiocracy!

[@young5395]

"Worse than Far Harbor" was all I needed to hear. Bethesda of old is gone. Howard out here selling dreams at 16x times the detail with a mandatory pc upgrade. This was his magnum opus? Oof.

[@Mitch93636]

Real and Hardcore Gamers know that Shattered Space, is a million times better than Far Harbour.

[@jeffthompson6162]

I'm admittedly a Starfield fanboy. Put 120 hours into the game. Gotta say, the DLC was barely mediocre at best. Aesthetically, what they crafted is pretty great. However, the quest and gameplay in the DLC is not great. I might be in the minority here but I preferred the main quests in the base game. Bethesda gets a lot of criticism for how they implemented the scale of base game so the DLC is downsized in one location. So basically the game just went backwards. My problem is that Bethesda didn't try to make the game better or expand on the direction Starfield was supposed to go in the first place. Instead they took the game back to the basics. Very, very lackluster.

[@slopedarmor]

Reminds me of radiant ai in oblivion, there were some bugs or whatever so seems like they lobotomized the ai in all later games. Instead of doing what i was hoping for, which would be doubling down on simulation and immersion, and have radiant ai on steroids in skyrim, but alas

[@SergeantGadriel]

The Emperor ordered me to confiscate the Titussy Statue behind you

[@SubiKinubi]

I disagreed with someone over the crappy value of it and got called poor and an alcoholic…so yeah, they’re very well adjusted

[@joshnizzle]

Yea I feel you there. I posted on Reddit calling it dull and saying how i fell asleep 3 hours in and was told I a moron who probably couldn’t understand Bethesda games so no wonder they weren’t for me. I said, I’ve been gaming since 1987 and probably am much older than most of you attacking me now. I’m old enough to remember when Bethesda made quality stuff!

[@SubiKinubi]

@@joshnizzle yeah I’m a 45 guy with 3 kids, a horse farm, former musician with a song on national radio in my own country, I don’t drink any more, being told by these kids how I live my life 😂😂😂

[@mattsmith2702]

The Andreja dialogue bug was enough for me to lose hope with this dlc. I really tried to like it. Anyways the bug is in fact a bug and there are videos you can see of her conversations with the player. I’m glad I got her one liners tho but even that added next to nothing

[@cr3d294]

30 USD!!! Bro, that's the exact price of Phantom Liberty that offers over 40 hours of gameplay!!!

[@Mitch93636]

Real and Hardcore Gamers know that Shattered Space is a million times better than Phantom Liberty.

[@MachoMitch101]

If you like Starfield then it's decent. If you don't then this won't change your mind.

[@loganr6203]

I remember how excited I was when ES6 was announced. I swear to you internet strangers that I almost cried. then the rose tinted glasses flew off from how shit Starfield was then i started realizing how Lazy Bethesda became

[@aznhomig]

Bethesda: Hey, even Cs still get Degrees!

[@Ifinishedyoutube]

I just would like to point out that one of the main reasons I like Grand theft Auto v is because I can replay the heist from heat.

[@rizalruhizat]

Game of the generation, folks.

[@scubasteve2189]

Here's the thing, though: Multiple things can be true at once. 1. Luke's critiques are probably fair. 2. Luke also made up his mind before he even played it and knew he was going to hate it. 3. I can be someone who enjoys Starfield and also agrees with a lot of the critiques, which I am.

[@FullMetalB]

Knew he was going to hate it due to the quality of the base game and bethesdas quality over the last several years. Not becuase of bias. I have no doubt if this actually revolutionized the game and solved everything he would not make a video saying he hated it "because he already made his mind up"

[@oukeith]

Could you imagine being a Starfield meat rider LOL!

[@MasteroChieftan]

This is why I'm not bent out of shape about AI content generation. The people WITH the money to make the most grandiose stuff are either rehashing shit, or they're half-assing it. I don't care anymore. In however many years from now, give me a computer and an AI and I'll have it make shit tailored specifically to me and I'll share it with my friends and family and if they like it, cool, and if they don't cool. At least I'll finally get to experience the content I actually want to experience without having to spend $70 on a bug-ridden mess and another $30 on a fucking glorified side quest.

[@destroyonload3444]

I like how Andreja gives 2 shits about what's going on around her on her home planet.

[@crithi1401]

I am starting to get from worried to mildly terrified when it comes to TES6 and Fallout 5. Might be smart to shed any anticipation regarding those, so that I won't get burned over years of built up hope.

[@via_negativa6183]

When even mattyplays has nothing nice to say about Bethesda you know how bad it us. Personally I've been disappointed in them when I realized daggerfall was just a vast world of nothing and Stanfield feels just like a return to that

[@dumb.luck36]

this guy has the coolest nerd cave I've seen in awhile

[@mikedelgrande5296]

I've been a console gamer my entire life, mostly PlayStation and Nintendo. I built my first PC this year and I've been really enjoying it, but I still play my PS5 just as much. I was looking for a game that was exclusive to Microsoft since I had a Microsoft platform and saw Starfield. I gave it a shot on a whim and all the criticism is totally justified. But personally, I had fun with it.

[@TheNightquaker]

I honestly have a hard time deciding who would be more useful as biofuel material at this point, Bethesda fanboys or Bethesda devs. Maybe both?

[@blarghmcblarghson1903]

"People can't read, dude." Perhaps that's why the defender in question thinks they've only just started five hours in: the credits started rolling and they thought it was just a funny loading screen.

[@RocketRenton]

Luke, they really hate you over on the NoSodiumStarfield subreddit, those people are delusional.

[@DubberRucks]

They're not the only ones lol that's why I call that place, and Twitter an asylum.

[@calelsun]

What I like about Fallout 4 at least is that they don't bug you or have the character constantly mentioning the main objectives and being like, " Man, I really hope Shaun is out there and is ok." Nothing worse to me than constantly having them mention the main plot in reminders or getting phone calls/npcs hollering at you or something in some games to rush you. Made me think of the angry joe fallout 4 review where he's drinking a soda and farming and realizes he forgot something ( that something being his son ) 😂 ❤

[@Aunny123]

He should wear the “Hype Makes You Stupid” shirt for every Bethesda video. They’ve continuously let us down and you can tell they’re creatively bankrupt.

[@drakeobloody1150]

The modders quit and said and i quote: "the game is f***** boring", that should sum it up.

[@TheElitistSavage]

Even Matty said it wasn’t good either

[@OrthodoxRabbiBillClinton]

“Don’t like it don’t play it” is the $300m concord motto

[@jhitcho2026]

I appreciate your stance on games/entertainment. If you don't criticize the content, how can it approve. I understand fans being protective/defensive but how else can you give feedback to improve the games you love?

[@greybound362]

I mean this was their formula since skyrim, giving you a tense "we are in danger, do something" kind of story, and i think the reason skyrim works is that the main story, while not bad, is not the only focus, and so it makes sense for you to rush the main story and then return and do everything else but still even in that game when you finish the main questline the world starts to feels half dead and that is why people just stoped play the main story. And that is the problem with their writing/game design, they make a very intense main story that grabs you, then they just rush to finish it and be done with it, and when people say: "why was it so lackluster?" And "why is it so rushed and weird?" They say "well, you should explore the game and find quests on you AdVEntUrEs!", and that is the same reason why sometimes we can find a Whole new quest that we have not heard of in skyrim, because the game never takes us there, never says to go there, never gives a reason to go there, and doesn't even encourage exploration much(especially outside of points of interest). Im all in for skyrim. It's a great game, and the reasons it works is that it was the first one in that style, and Bethesda hadn't yet gotten on a "routine" of making games like that.

[@AngryPug76]

18:00 That’s exactly what they want. It’s called “toxic positivity” which takes the old “if you don’t have anything nice to say don’t say anything at all” and makes it corporate policy.

[@rahulsar2030]

In my personal opinion, I don't think the game or DLC is bad at all. Most people can spend 100 hours into this game. The problem is that DLC is not worth what they are charging. Most Bathesda fans like myself have brought the deluxe edition so we already had it included, but purchasing it separately is not worth it. Secondly this DLC or Starfield doesn't make Bathesda the worst game company. They are not even on the same level of hate as is with Ubisoft, but Bathesda needs to accept these criticism else they will end up like Ubisoft, where they cannot understand why AC Shadows is getting so much hate before launch and they are just blindly blaming on the fans.

[@sofaking1627]

Didn't even know the DLC came out. Calling Starfield "mid" is an insult to mid games.

[@Heretican]

Instead of selling a whole game, they cut out chunks and sell it off as DLC As a major Faction, a House Va'ruun questline should've been in the base game

[@DubberRucks]

Yep. But what better way for BGS to look after their customers, sorry, consumers than carve it out and sell it back to them at half the price the base game.

[@ZeroDawnGaming91]

At the end of the day it’s Todd and CEO of Xbox that sign off that “this is good enough” don’t look at the talent look at the leaders.

[@payko5262]

It's wild how Bethesda can manage to go BACKWARD in storytelling ability in this format. In Fallout 3, they account for the player deciding not to interact with the main story. From the moment you walk out of the Vault, James is where he is. There's no quest requirement, he's just there. If you decide "Dad abandoned me and got me exiled from the only home I've ever known, screw him" and ignore the main quest, you could spend 100+ hours exploring the rest of the game without finding him. Then, in the midst of Deathclaw country, you press a button in the back room of an abandoned service garage and suddenly dive headfirst into Act 2 (and your unresolved trauma). In Fallout 4, you absolutely cannot enter Fort Hagen until you rescue a 200 year old robot noir detective so he can summon a stray dog from halfway across the map AND you follow the dog on foot back across the map. Stupid.

[@TheGreatOne-gw7xh]

Boycott all Bethesda products.

[@sethwright186]

FIRST OF ALL, "Having ppl glaze you up" is craaaaazy 😂 second as a huge BGS fan it's sad to hear this wasn't better, I'm a huge fan of Bethesda dlc and was really looking forward to it. Welp back to the erd tree 😅

[@joshf2218]

What does Bethesda do anymore? They spent a year on this. It took them 6 months to make Dawnguard for Skyrim which is way bigger content wise and also added tons of QOL improvements. It took them another 6 months to make Dragonborn which is also way bigger than this. Do they just sit around spit balling what ES6 characters they can queer now?

[@s3nate22]

The steam refund window is 2hrs long and people are really getting mad that folks aren't playing it for longer than that to MAYBE like it.

[@DubberRucks]

Ikr. Imagine being told you have to play XX hours BEFORE it gets good. I'd nope the hell out and find something good off the bat.

[@rune5416]

Its almost like you can be a fan of something and still be critical of it.

[@joevsjoes1799]

Like most businesses nowadays leadership keep promoting people that want to be promoted not the people that should be.

[@Littleeqb]

I don’t understand how you can still say this game is anything but mediocre at best. It’s the most bland game I’ve ever played and the people who still support it are the problem not just with Bethesda but the industry in general

[@ViktorAndy]

Anyway, who is playing Cyberpunk this weekend?

[@Mitch93636]

Cyberpunk sucks. Real and Hardcore Gamers will be play Starfield and the Shattered Space DLC.

[@fridaysatjons1097]

@@Mitch93636 starfield is garbage, but sure, keep on being a Starfield defender. Keep defending the awful combat, the awful story, planets, characters and so on. If you want a true, fun, space game experience play Minecraft with a space mod.

[@Mitch93636]

@@fridaysatjons1097 Real and Hardcore Gamers know that the Shatterer Space DLC is a million times better than any Minecraft mod and No Man’s Sky.

[@fridaysatjons1097]

@@Mitch93636 yes all 9,000 Starfield players will play this. But hey if you enjoy wasting your money on a bad game, by all means go for it.

[@SGTPOONISHER]

Shivering Isles is peak Bethesda dlc.

[@edubbz1987]

If this was Starfield's Phantom Liberty I was ready to finally give the game a chance.

[@ADZE-ec2zb]

Starfield is just one big disappointment and if bethesda continues like this elder scrolls 6 is going to suck.

[@Mitch93636]

Starfield is the best game that Bethesda has ever made!!!

[@edwardbusa2317]

It's funny how starfield forces you throws you in with companions, whether you like it or not and then the DLC comes out and there's not a single one companion anywhere that I found so far