Starfield vs Star Citizen System Requirements Analysis - Is Your PC Ready?

[@joypadbandit624]

According to STEAM, most PC Gamers aren't ready! ROFL! 😂😆 #Upgrade

[@lemon64k49]

You made one mistake in this video: you said the recommended specs are probably targeting 1440p but this cannot be true since if we're going off of the Series X as you have, those specs would be targeting 4K 30 fps, not 1440p 30 fps, since Series S is the one running at 1440p.

[@gamedaytoday1]

However, the latest gameplay was reportedly rendered at 1296p internally, using temporal upscaling to achieve the 4K target. So that’s why I said 1440p so it was a mistake on my end not to referencing how I got to the 1440p number. There are plenty of articles mentioning this.

[@mrm7058]

If they compare a 6800XT to a 2080, that doesn't make AMD look better. Actually quite the opposite. However I heard/read that the reason for only 30 fps on the X Box is actually the CPU, so Starfield might be a CPU heavy game and the GPU plays only a secondary role.

[@adamstull2436]

It is supposedly all the background ai and scrips running in the background that eat up cpu usage. The big city's is where it will be really noticeable if this is the case.

[@martythemartian99]

Personally, I just don't care about the whole 60 vs 30 fps, as long as the game is good. :)

[@giovannirosario4274]

It's an immense difference between 30 fps vs 60 fps and also 120 fps but for 30 to 60 fps I'd rather play it on 60fps just my opinion obviously and also purely subjective.

[@Na0uta]

Hold up, are you sure they are blocking the addition of dlss? Or is nvidia just not bothering to add it?

[@AbuN4z1r]

It's not Nvidia deciding to add it or not, but the devs. If they get sponsored by AMD, they might be contractually bound to use only FSR.

[@halrichard1969]

@@AbuN4z1r If one is implemented then the other can be implemented easily according to the Mod Nerds. If it isnt implemented at launch it will certainly be done by some Modder and soon. Bragging rights ya know :D.

[@Glubbdubdrib]

4:20 I think you got your point backwards. If AMD wants us to think Nvidia doesn't perform as well as their cards, couldn't they put in something like a 3090 or higher card? Pitting the 6800XT against the 2080 makes Nvidia look better in the end. People have talked about this point and think that ray tracing will be placed in the engine without being able to take it off.

[@giovannirosario4274]

Either just buy another $500 to $1000 upgrade for your pc to be able to play this game with stable frame rates or just get an xbox series x save some extra money and get the game game pass on xbox. Just my take on it.😊

[@jonquis07]

Can someone explain how SC can have rovers and in atmosphere flight but Starfeild cannot. Is it simpy bc alot of the "work" is done offisite. Or is SC engine just that much better?

[@halrichard1969]

Star Citizen is Multi-Player. Starfield being a solo experience would have actually been easier if i am not mistaken. Starfield could have had atmosphere flight but the designers chose not to. I just happed onto that info yesterday after watching several vids on SF. SC while having atmos flight is still a very limited game with only a few solar systems and lots of bugs. They have been challenged to make the game for eight going on nine years now. Trying to compare the two is like comparing apples and oranges.

[@demiadeyemi4434]

Another amazing video, GD! Really loved the joke at the end 😉. Need more reviews like this. What console do you recommend for gaming optimisation?

[@CalamariPlaysStarfield]

I'm running a GTX 1660 TI with a Ryzen 5 3600 so I defiantly need to upgrade my GPU and CPU before I can play starfield, which is unfortunate considering I won't be able to get the money to upgrade till Christmas...

[@leoSaunders]

2:40 'pc hardware equivalent xbox series x' is not correct. next-gen consoles don't have a 6700xt. it's a 6650xt, a770. nvidia is somewhere in between 3060 and 3060ti. 3060 is a bit too slow; 3060ti a bit too fast.

[@gamedaytoday1]

Don’t trust random Reddit post

[@leoSaunders]

@@gamedaytoday1 what do you mean random reddit post. it was established by digital foundry the consoles are graphically equivalent to a 2070 super. and that's where the cards i mentioned land.

[@gamedaytoday1]

@@leoSaunders Ok I did not know that, 2070 super according to DF. Then I am off but the analysis still remains the same as the game will be CPU bound. Thanks for the clarification.

[@leoSaunders]

@@gamedaytoday1 sure no problem. yea that's what is being said @ starfield/ the engine being CPU bound

[@leoSaunders]

background music is a tad too loud

[@gamedaytoday1]

Thanks noted!

[@Jcoxy2k10]

I’m over here sweating ! 👀😩 how can I own a Rtx 3070 + ryzen 7 + 32 gb ram … and still not know what I’m gunna be playing at 😤

[@rgrlee71]

They said the series X would be running 30fps in 4k. I will run Starfield in 1440p with an i7 10700k and a 6800xt. So I'm not all that concerned.

[@gamedaytoday1]

However, the latest gameplay was reportedly rendered at 1296p internally, using temporal upscaling to achieve the 4K target. So it’s not native 4K

[@alueshen]

I have two thoughts. First, is it possible that the 30fps cap is being implemented to reduce input lag, screen tearing? I know that games that provide smooth frames at 40-50 frames can feel better than games that have higher rates, but input lag is higher or frame times are really inconsistent. Second, maybe I'm just a little more sophisticated when it comes to PC hardware, but when I see a recommendation that says 2080 for Nvidia and 6800xt for AMD, I think to myself, "dam, this game is either optimized better for Nvidia or AMD cards are just slower requiring a much newer card to meet the requirement". In other words, that's a bad look for AMD from where I sit. I'm not disagreeing with the author of this vid, but if he's right that's a bonehead move on AMD's part. Hopefully anyone benchmarking these two GPU's is smart enough to know that in most cases the 6800xt should be a much more powerful card, I mean the 2080 is hamstrung by 8gb of RAM, my old 1080ti (Nvidia's best card...errrr...I mean biggest mistake in ages) had 11gb!

[@mikec5992]

AMD might also be hoping to get more people to buy their higher end cards, when their mid-level GPU's will work just fine.

[@alueshen]

@@mikec5992 Undoubtedly your right, but if you you know anything about hardware, why would you? And Understand, I want AMD to succeed, I just think that move looks good to hardware newbs but bad to hardware nerds like me.

[@mikec5992]

@@alueshen I hear you. And I want AMD to succeed too. I feel screwed by Intel for too long. Competition is good.

[@Na0uta]

Im happy to know well in advanced. That so long as the game isnt running like a broken horse. My pc can run it at better then 60 at 1440p. 5900x & RX 6800xt with 32gb ram. But i will be doing an upgrade in the next year or so.

[@iamghostwitagun3800]

Next year or so, wow no need to upgrade for at least another 3 years.

[@jjlw2378]

I'm really looking forward to your Starfield coverage! It will be hilarious to see how many of these commenters come back to apologize when you've been proven right. One day PC gamers will stop treating their systems like a console and actually enter the BIOS to get all that sweet free performance!

[@gamedaytoday1]

100

[@ddmaster08]

it depends if starfield will be as poor opitmized as star citzen

[@Na0uta]

I think youre a little off for the performace of star citizen in reguards to how it handles background simulation. Although SC offloads it to servers. The servers running slower have a direct impact on your local fps. Far more then it was when tested before they removed local hosting. If anything, starfeild will run much better because it is run locally. And not waiting for the cloud. Im a sc fan and would like to see it successful in the long run. And really hope they bring back the ability to host it locally.

[@gamedaytoday1]

The server FPS does not impact your local performance. It is the server entity count that impacts your performance. I have done the test multiple times and it is only when the entity count is high by the server when the local performance degrade. I think it’s also a combination of number of players within your area, as such your PC is struggling due to the Main Thread being single threaded. If the server FPS impacts your Local FPS then overclocking and tuning would not improve your FPS which it does. The number of entities the server has at any location directly impact your FPS because it forces your CPU to draw more calls which is a problem of all old APIs as DX11 and older. The only way to solve this is with brute force with overclocking and memory tuning. Or once Vulcan is fully implemented and they decouple the main thread it’s when we can see an improvement in performance. Chances are that Starfield also has the same issues of having 1 main thread which is holding its performance back. this is the issue many games still face today. Number 1 prediction here is that pc players will complain about the performance just like in SC. There it’s so much wrong 😑 and incorrect comments in my video’s. Hosting locally = fewer entities = better FPS. This is what cause the “good performance”

[@drshinobi3979]

So how come i can run Star Citizen on recommended system requirement but cant even play Starfield on lowest acc to their specs ? ^^ i mean also since Starfield doesnt look that much upgraded graphic wise then FO4. But i do can run BG3 on ultra without any problem along with Diablo 4 xD If i now can run Starfield im calling out the requirements being a scam to get people to buy more upgrades

[@c523jw7]

Been looking for something like this..great content man!! So just to confirm The series X is going for 30fps at 4k. Recommended 2080 and 3700x will give 4k 30? Also 3080 i7 10700 - 60 to 70fps is that at 4k with FSR? It's what I am hoping and predict. I got a ROG stricks oc 3080 10g and i7 12700 16g of ddr4 ram. Should I expect around 65 to 75 fps at 4k with fsr2? Is that reasonable?

[@gamedaytoday1]

Based on pixel counting the Starfield trailer, one scene featured an internal resolution of 1296p (60 percent of 4K)

[@gamedaytoday1]

So my bet is that the recommend specs are for 1440p

[@c523jw7]

@@gamedaytoday1 so they say 4k 30 does that mean it's upscaled from the 1200p you mentioned? And are you thinking native 1440p 60 for 3080?

[@TheLotw]

Please, getting 60fps in SC is almost impossible unless you have a way over powered system because of the FORCED ONLINE SERVERS.

[@gamedaytoday1]

You are saying Better system = better FPS, and somehow you are blaming performance on servers? Strange I’ll have to make a video on why most of you are wrong when blaming your performance on the servers 😑 while servers does impact performance it’s not like the way you think.

[@TheHat--Man]

give me two days, i can make a clutter remover that gives you 10 more fps

[@B-26354]

To all console peasants... Get a PC. Be part of the PC master race.

[@jmangames5562]

To all PC players enjoy your TPS!

[@B-26354]

@@jmangames5562 Got no idea what you mean... TPS reports? Is this a film reference?

[@davidlz830]

Not everybody is making 200$ a month you know. Not even talking about children who can't even get a job.

[@whenisdinner2137]

Yep it's definitely CPU

[@mikeramos91]

i think starfield is the first game to require an ssd on minimum

[@gamedaytoday1]

Star Citizen does to, you can't play with HDD

[@mikeramos91]

@@gamedaytoday1 oh I forgot about that lol

[@dwg116]

The logic in this vid is wrong in so many ways.... The game engines are not the same. I think Starfield will run better once is released and polished up a bit after all its a single player game. Star citizen runs worse the more players you get in the server. I remember once in starcitizen there was a way to run the game in single player mode and my old i7-4790k and gtx970 was getting on average 50-80fps on medium at all times.

[@georgeking1014]

I may he wrong, but the PC crowd is going to be enraged if you need a bleeding edge, multiple $1000, system to hit 60 fps at 1440.

[@gamedaytoday1]

Yes the PC crowd who don’t run tuned systems always rage. Watch when people complain just like what they do for every new release that does not perform like Doom.

[@georgeking1014]

​@gamedaytoday1 It has nothing to do with tuned. if you need to have a 13th gen chip and a 4000 series GPU to run 60 fps at 1440, then there is something wrong. Tuning a 8th gen chip and a 2060 isn't going to do you any good, you just can run it. The number of people with the bleeding edge system is small, and the vast majority of PC players can't play the game. I have a i7-1700, 3070 and 32 gigs of RAM, and according to your analysis, I won't get 1080p 60 fps. I have never run into any game I can't get at least 60 fps at 1440p, at least medium settings, and most games i play at a much higer rate. Lastly you shouldn't need a degree in Comp Sci to play a video game. It should not be required to overlook, mess with timings etc to get minimal performance. The old DOS days were bad enough with different autoexec.bat files for different games so you could get all the drivers into memory.

[@NeutronicalGaming]

This might be some of the worst content on youtube, wild speculations, absurdity and outright lies about the content and capabilities of the games and hardware discussed and compared.

[@gamedaytoday1]

Yes, I was inspired to release the worst YT content after seeing your channel, how did I do?