Stargate Atlantis - Season 4 - Lifeline - Planetfall

The Atlantis expedition finally manages to relocate its city-ship to a new home.

[@DoctorRobertNeville]

As a friend one time told me "Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.". My friend was a Navy Pilot. God rest your soul Leon. You were a good friend.

[@IIISentorIII]

Please keep your horrible dead storys for yourself or the shrink. I'm frakking sick and tired of reading who dies and whatnot on KZbin. We are here to enjoy a moment together and nothing more.

[@Ragitsu]

@@IIISentorIII A little civility goes a long way.

[@sergioruiz733]

"Like a leaf kissing a surface of a pond." Sheppard- "Cannonball!"

[@aydenjacko5810]

@@tryndoxme248 I'm guessing the shield is weaker on the underside, since any danger would usually be from above the city, or the underside has a unique shield system which allows for water to pass, separate but apart of the main shield. Other words. Magic...

[@foxalive1772]

Gently now you just want to kiss just a little peck a smooch like kissing your sister. "Proceeds to land hard" I said kiss it!

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

"I am a leaf on the wind,..."

[@nickwinters2637]

RIP the whales in 15000 years

[@JounLord1]

Apparently in the follow up book series (yeah those comic/book follow ups can be hit or miss, still annoyed by the Farscape comics) they eventually return to the original planet after heading back to the Pegasus galaxy.

[@Ragitsu]

@@JounLord1 That reminds me of how Stargate Command went from the Giza gate to the Antarctic gate and then back to the Giza gate.

[@adhdchief15]

theres follow books?@@JounLord1

[@NordRheinWestfale]

Still a little weird they had to buy it back.

[@nickwinters2637]

@@NordRheinWestfale I think it was a lease

[@richardcarruthers7932]

Nice landing,...except for the sunami that resulted in an ecological diaster for the large venemous snake-like creatures on the mainland.

[@anikinkhan]

I love the details how Rodney still says Zed being Canadian.

[@coltonalbright7544]

I heard you the first time Rodney. And yet we're still coming in too steep!

[@gigaus0]

Remember when they didn't treat Doc Lee like a joke?

[@Jokie155]

I remember when O'Neill told Carter to shoot Lee 'if I see so much as a file folder!' as a joke in his first appearance. So... no?

[@zippacna]

Dr Lee is one of my favourite recurring non main cast, my favourite scene is where he explains getting a message to Atlantis by using 101 dalmatians and nobody gets it

[@theneptune0770]

this is why Atlantis is my favorite syfi show ever!

[@Humaricslastcall]

0:26 "Large, particularly venomous snake that inhabits the mainland..." Jormingandr?

[@Ragitsu]

(In another galaxy...) "Indeed."

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

"she's built like a steakhouse but handles like a bistro"

[@Ragitsu]

Reference?

[@rlupi2529]

Futurama@@Ragitsu

[@Ragitsu]

@@rlupi2529Thanks.

[@rayberger2694]

I remember the first time I did that, Rookies you got to love them.

[@Flyingmachines350]

What a positive series!

[@littleozzz10]

“Another happy landing”

[@skyserf]

3:37 Shepherd certainly was contemplating for a bit.

[@Ragitsu]

Hm?

[@rhysgarner8677]

Well they had just survived a rather harrowing ordeal. And they'd lost a dear friend in the process.

[@jalipalej8742]

We need more pilots driving cities like this in sci-fi

[@Pelerin985]

The guy came from flying helicopters to flying space city

[@Erekose2023]

Every scene seeing Atlantis in flight or taking off/landing makes me think about New York, New York, and Mayor Amalfi and co.

[@fr9714]

Stargate Sg1, Atlantis and Universe were amazing shows. Shocking that scifi canceled all 3 of them like idiots. They had easily at least 4 to 5y in each left

[@fallatiuso]

Universe had a rough start because they tried to make it a space soap opera instead of stargate, like the other space operas that were popular at the time. Sadly it got cancelled after it finally started to move out of that and get back into being stargate. Finally started to find its feet and just like that it's gone.

[@Fotoschiki]

Can we take a moment to apprechiate this man landing A CITY? Well SpaceX landed "a building" a year ago, so we might not be as far away from that as you'd think

[@reviewchan9806]

SpaceX is run by a con man who just steals tech. There isn't much hope

[@Fractal227]

NICE!! KISSING!!

[@Administrator_O-5]

Even though I know David Hewlett personally, I still greatly miss this show more than a beloved family member...

[@mitche5007]

Why do I get the feeling that radek was not available for this episode filming? I think his response sounded canned like he pre-recorded it.😊

[@Petrosman]

But he was in this episode. When they were making the hyperdrive on the jumper work Radek was there.

[@debbiebernhardt5406]

@@Petrosman early on, he could of been busy or in the zpm room

[@caelestigladii]

He could have been in other parts of the ship.

[@Petrosman]

@debbiebernhardt5406 yeah but OP said that Zelenka wasn't in the episode at all, which he was.

[@welder878]

Trying to remember this episode hmmmm

[@chilllytube]

I's not friction, its pressure.

[@123RADIOactive]

NICE KISSING!!!!!!!!!!! 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@notgonnahappen7899]

Ballistic entries like this never made sense in sci-fi shows that have the technology to do it different. It would require far less power to slowly enter the atmosphere and not create all that friction. The have the engines and technology to do it.

[@wahyutriwibowo1803]

In this situation the energy left is very limited so this is the best they can do.

[@DayneTreader]

The shield generates way less friction than the city itself would (which would tear itself to pieces during entry if the shield didn't exist), but the surface area of the shield is still massive, and with size comes more friction. Given they were powering the atmospheric thrusters AND the shield with a single Zero Point Module, and with that module being significantly depleted by activating the Hyperdrive, it was a rough entry and landing. The shield isn't butter-smooth either, it needs to be able to attenuate to let allied ships in while keeping enemy fire out.

[@JimmyBlether]

Amusingly the city shield would probably take atmospheric entry from low orbit quite well as it's so damn huge that the heating and shockwave would be pushed rather far from the surface. On the other hand assuming the planet is basically identical to Earth, and the stardrive can accelerate the ship ridiculously hard even when the ZPM is low on power, they probably could have reduced speed to about zero (delta V of let's say 7.5km/s) and eased her down without worrying nearly as much about friction. I do believe though that it would take about the same energy to do such a maneuver if nor more considering slowing down via engine power is far from free. It tends to be cheaper to work with the atmosphere than to avoid it.

[@mcgoogle4812]

Its remarkable they never ever left instructions on how to make zpms... you can replicate everything but not the power source. You'd think that plotline would get an episode or 2

[@Ragitsu]

Even _if_ it were in the Atlantis database, there's the little matter of infrastructure...

[@lettherebedragons8885]

I always joked with a friend of mine, that they will find a ZPM factory in the lower levels of Atlantis in the last Episode.

[@MisterPuck]

I’m sure the production method is _somewhere_ in the database, the issue is finding and translating it. Remember, the database is in Ancient, and they literally have no idea what the Ancients called them. “ZPM” was just the name they came up with, so they can’t exactly just do a google search.

[@fedegerman1690]

@@MisterPuck in the zpm control panel MUST be written how did they call em for sure, like "Activate ...(word)"

[@MisterPuck]

@@fedegerman1690 They’re using a lot of their own computer systems that they’ve tied into Atlantis. And, if you think about it, we don’t label all of our switches or buttons, so why would the Ancients? Light-switches aren’t labeled. Neither are power buttons on computers or phones, at most they have the circle with the line to symbolize a power button, they aren’t labeled in plain language. An alien looking at a computer power button wouldn’t have any idea what the symbol meant. So there’s really no reason to expect that the Ancients’s name for ZPMs is just written down somewhere. More importantly, the Humans have the Asgard tech left to them. They could probably use that to build a better power generator for the city and just cut out ZPMs entirely. But the writers wouldn’t do that, even though it makes far more sense than relying on naquada generators.

[@LyingTube]

Imagine if Shephard messed up and the series just ended here.

[@adambarnes49]

I wonder if there's any shots here that they reused from prodegy

[@garrenseifert790]

Whales are like wtf guys!!!!!

[@gordonblack6803]

I never understood my my the city was powered by only 3 zpm's. It seems to me that they are always running out of power.

[@aydenjacko5810]

During the ancient's time occupying the city they had 3 ZPMs which was enough to power whatever they needed and protect the city. However the Atlantis expedition until taking the city back to Earth only ever at any time had 1 functional ZPM which at best could power the city during a siege for a few days maybe a week due to the concentrated weapons fire formation the wraith developed against the city shield. The city in general just needed a lot of power, it would have helped if they didn't Dial earth as much, since it required so much power even for a brief time. (I think they dialed earth monthly which would have drained it so fast.

[@matthewhungerford1861]

the city was never designed for war and was built like a normal city with requiring constant inputs from out side to keep it running. the city was more a political capital with manufacturing given to the other cities which were destroyed by the wraith.

[@gamerboiiiiiii]

Given the fact the city was meant to function via 3 ZPMs (they typically only had one, this one being new and the old one being relatively worn down). It makes sense as to WHY they are still limited on power. The ZPM only has a specific throughput which yes can be increaed within the actual physical devices abilities. Whereas if they had three they could pratocally power it for linger than any of us could live.

[@albertkc2007]

Jason Momoa moved from Stargate Atlantis to being King of Atlantis.

[@JohnSmith-nn5tx]

How big is God Damn city?

[@mitche5007]

Nice kissing😊

[@Ragitsu]

Rodney asked John for a kiss?

[@IIISentorIII]

So no more roaste whales BBQ every Friday evening then? 😕

[@NicoDiAngelo603]

should that not have gone in at a 45 degree angle instead of a 90 degree angle?

[@Jon6429]

It's a small gripe but wouldn't the air pressure be different inside the shield and on the surface of a new planet?

[@cad4922]

That's true, maybe they could compensate for that by partially lowering the shield to reduce the effects of rapid compression, like a submarine does

[@JimmyBlether]

The difference wouldn't be so great as to cause problems I'd think, as if it were on the order of a good fraction of an atmosphere's difference a la mountaintop to sea level then the crew would probably have issues afterwards with how much air they have to breathe. It's easy to assume that they chose a planet with an atmospheric pressure pretty much identical to Lantea otherwise that would be a bit silly of them.

[@seanseoltoir]

@@cad4922 -- Submarines have the same pressure submerged as they do on the surface.

[@seanseoltoir]

Well, it's going to be different while in space also... While in space, the shields are going to be holding in probably close to 1 ATM of pressure (assuming that the planet they departed from has a similar air pressure to Earth). When they get to the new planet, one would assume that they chose one that was close to Earth-normal pressure, so equalization of pressure would be a trivial matter...

[@Petrosman]

So did they technically have 2 ZPMs at this point? When the Ancients took over and then replicators attacked and took the city, they had 3 ZPMs, 2 were given away to Earth (one to the Odyssey, one to the base in Antarctica). They did this whole thing with 1 ZPM. They stole one more ZPM from the replicators, so they now had 2 right?

[@alancoll1987]

Not really. By they time they got this one now the one they had left was almost depleted repelling the Asuran beam weapon, flyng into space and getting the power conduits damaged and shrinking the shield so nearly depleted.

[@Petrosman]

@@alancoll1987 I thought it shrunk the shield to conserve energy...

[@alancoll1987]

@@Petrosman They did shrink it because they were running out fast. Which is why they went to steal another ZPM

[@Petrosman]

@alancoll1987 I know, what I meant was that other ZPM still might have had some juice in it, since they were conserving energy.

[@Groza_Dallocort]

​@@Petrosman most likely but maybe only fumes left in it so to say

[@demottt]

They travelled back in time to make sure that the city was safe for the 10 thousand years it was under water, but what if they had made it self rise after say 1 thousand years, and then just cloak it for the other 9.. they'd probably have most of the power left by then.

[@Ragitsu]

That still puts the city at risk (remember the planetary tempest?).

[@Altenarian]

The Ancients never cloaked the city, that was done by jerry-rigging a jumper to the shield system by the atlantis expedition.

[@debbiebernhardt5406]

​@Altenarian yes, that trick worked since they couldn't do anything if it was already destoryed. Vaporizing it was a last resort. The city autodestruct was added by atlantis team. Don't forget the ancient ship with stasis pods, they also had a self destruct code.

[@icer1249]

how would they have information on a planet with no gate?

[@elementus2857]

The ancients probably have information on all planets in the galaxy, even those without stargates

[@hyper_tex9834]

The Ancients DID have ships to explore with too, they likely only put gates on scientifically interesting worlds or worlds well suited for habitation, but still made notes of other worlds they didn't put gates on in their database

[@DomWeasel]

@@elementus2857 The Ancients did have millions of years to explore Pegasus. And it's only a dwarf galaxy.

[@Petrosman]

​@@DomWeasel"only" a dwarf galaxy 😂

[@humorpalanta]

The way we have information of islands without ports :D