Stargate SG-1 - Season 8 - Moebius, Part 2 - Daniel gives the full skinny

"Who shot me?!"
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[@John73John]

"I killed you." "Why?" "It was easier than the filming tricks needed to duplicate you in this scene."

[@lyianx]

I mean, not like they havent done that Several times in the past.

[@John73John]

@@lyianx Yeah I know... Alt-Daniel's death did seem awfully convenient though, the way we just happen to get exactly 1 version of each character.

[@neolexiousneolexian6079]

@@lyianx For the Ba'al clones, each clone is fungible and interchangeable with the others. For Replicarter, exploring their interactions with the real Carter is itself a plot point. It's probably more an issue of writing, with keeping track of the two Jacksons being both confusing and distracting from the main storyline.

[@eggnorman]

@@neolexiousneolexian6079 Okay, so if Ba'al is fungible then the original is non-fungible? Also, what about the Tok'ra? Would you call that a non-fungible Tok'ra or 'NFT', if you will? (This is a terrible joke and I haven't slept, please forgive me)

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

@@eggnorman About the only usefull thing to come out of NFT's has to be that people actually know the word fungibile now.

[@Nozarash1]

Love how daniel gone from shy and nerdy to the look of "oh great you people are here to bother me"

[@Sejen77]

To be fair, he's still p***d at his dead friends messing things up, then a new set turn up and it's a case of "Oh no! Not this again!".

[@AdeptKing]

@@Sejen77he’s remarkably chill about his friends being dead now that you mention it. Granted it’s been a few years.

[@snewsh]

Daniel must have gotten so good at explaining shit like this. Hell, the SGC probably has a "so you accidentally traveled back in time and changed the course of human history" section in their field manual.

[@katelights]

thats why he did all the instructional videos they show in Universe.

[@dmtribaltyphoon5001]

step 1: Dont Follow SG1s example for we have plot armor you dont step 2: no copying Return to the Future Plot lines step 3: .................figure out a plan step 4: profit

[@irregularassassin6380]

The SGC and Starfleet should compare notes if Sam and Rodney ever fuckup things badly enough to crash those universes together.

[@BogeyTheBear]

"If you can't see to it, then C4 it!" _Disposition of Alien Devices You Cannot Secure From Enemy Encroachment,_ by Jack O'Neill (two 'L's)

[@Brasc]

I'm imagining a Fallout Vault-Tec instructional-type video for this now.

[@One-EyedCorvus]

I love how done with everything Daniel is in this scene. Like “Yep, I died again so what. How about we get this whole thing moving along.”

[@KitKatHexe]

Daniel Jackson, Kenny McCormick, and Rory Williams. The Holy Trinity of repeatedly dying and shrugging it off.

[@ethrsag735]

I love how dry Daniel's humor has grown being around Jack. "Supposed to be? "Yes, in our timeline your rebellion works, but Ra takes the stargate with him" "...OK thAt's a problem."

[@Someone--Else]

Then there's the "good for me" part after Sam explained the bit with the tablet, that was fun.

[@TheAgamemnon911]

Jacks answer "Ancient Egypt" always cracks me up. Technically correct might not be the best kind of correct, but it definitely is the funniest kind.

[@Randomnessisreasuring]

Richard Dean Anderson managed to land and create 2 multi season shows in the 7 to 10 season range plus being a producer on SG-1 he hit it big as a actor. Only a small number of actors can hit one successful show but now he can putter around and do passion projects for the rest of his life. However his health was affected due to stunts and what not so that sux.

[@GamingSpoiler]

Sam: "I doubt they speak English" Me: "Yeah, it's not like 99% of the planets you visited spoke fluent English, THESE must be the odd ones"

[@Ragitsu]

How funny is it that the least strange occurrence of someone speaking English involves an individual from ancient Egypt?

[@GamingSpoiler]

@@Ragitsu Well of course ancient Egyptians spoke English. They only used Hieroglyphs for their legacy of ancient Memes.

[@benjones5407]

@@DWargs ​ I've come to the same conclusion too. There's something the ancients knew about spoken language processing in the brain we are yet to figure out. It was never brought up in the events of SG-1 as it just kind of happened. Perhaps the rewiring of these areas of the brain is at such a deep level that they never questioned it - I mean you'd think Daniel, who has linguistics expertise, might have mentioned it otherwise? Written comms on the other hand, they often needed to translate. That and any non-human language (like Goa'uld?)

[@chimeragenesis361]

​@@Ragitsuthis one at least has some storytelling behind it, obviously it was Daniel who taught him how to speak English.

[@alexandrukas]

The first few episodes had the other planets speaking their own dialects of ancient languages. But as the show went on the gimmick of having to translate a new language each episode wore thin. So eventually they adopted the idea that the Goa'uld would have imposed a standard trade language on their empire.

[@cya2139]

“It was horrible” “Yeah I’m sure” 😄

[@John73John]

I just realized Daniel has now been shot by both Alternate Teal'c and Jack (when Anubis was controlling him), stunned by Vala when she hijacked Prometheus, AND stabbed by Replicator Carter. Poor guy. He needs to find better friends.

[@Ragitsu]

He was also shot by regular Teal'c in "In The Line Of Duty".

[@LyokoisGreat2]

@@Ragitsu and in the VR SGC Sim that Him and Teal'c were in

[@Ragitsu]

@@LyokoisGreat2 That's also regular Teal'c...sort of.

[@LyokoisGreat2]

@@Ragitsu there has to be a leader board in the SGC and Atlantis on how many times someone has died and just came back

[@HupfderFloh]

"You shot me!" - Daniel Jackson

[@hiccuphufflepuff176]

Daniel: "Where am I?" Teal'c: "I killed you." Daniel: (with all the shock and horror of sorting receipts for his tax return) "reason for death number 407?"

[@zwordsman]

I really love that Daniel just goes "yeah. Sure make sense"

[@depreseo]

"I doubt they speak English" "Hello" "He does" Stargate alien worlds in a nutshell XD

[@davido.1233]

I think Daniel dies the most in this show, and yet he's one of the most resilient beings in the universe!

[@davidkelly4210]

No, Jack has died more but most of them happened in a single episode (where he was a Tok'Ra captured by Ba'al). Danial's deaths are more spread out so seem more numerous.

[@BogeyTheBear]

Not resilient-- he literally figured out how to get over it!

[@Johnrich395]

"Sir it's been a week." "I'M NOT DOING IT!"

[@3adgamd3r]

Looks like Gaeta wasn’t killed at the end of BSG, he just became a dude in Ancient Egypt 🤣

[@lcstark]

"All of this has happened before...", and all that. 😃

[@3adgamd3r]

@@lcstark they do get a few of the BSG actors, Seelix comes to SG-1 as Lieutenant Tolinev

[@lcstark]

@@3adgamd3r Yeah, there were a few of them. Barolay from BSG was Dr. Brightman in one episode of SG-1 and then a few of SGU.

[@epiendless1128]

And Helo was a Replicator. ("Third")

[@mpittard21]

gaeta died a fair time before the end of bsg.

[@andybrown4284]

Daniel almost relieved to hear that there is a scenario where he dies but can be absent for.

[@toomanyaccounts]

more like the Teal'c gave a good reason

[@ThePCguy17]

He showed up late to his own execution. What a madlad.

[@Rob8729]

Daniel took his death really well....He thought about it for a whole half second.

[@Johnrich395]

It's like grabbing a coffee, do you think about it every time?

[@mitche5007]

They went back in time to stock his pond with fish😊

[@Ragitsu]

Awesome fish.

[@TonyP9279]

This moebius strip has a lot of twists in it!

[@xboxman1710]

One thing this episode always left me thinking was that once the rebellion had succeeded Daniel didn't just try to go back to Kheb and ascend again. Would help explain the team's near endless supply of luck if they had an Ascended Being in their corner always working in the background. I know its propbaly just the writers never thought of it and to have made it work it would have had to been in the works for several seasons.

[@TheKether]

This have been a headcanon of mine for ages! Sometimes I also think. more jokingly, that at some point in the timelines there must be an "assorted Daniels" section in the ascended planes, all waiting when their current flesh-one will die/ascend and join the party.

[@John73John]

I never thought of that... but from Oma's perspective, it would be the first time she'd met Daniel. He might even convince her to help "him" in the future... But then, for any of this to work he'd have to go through the gate before the Egyptians buried it, which was probably very soon after the rebellion. And was Kheb even operating way back then?

[@Bearmauls]

If Ra took the stargate, how would Daniel get to Kheb post-rebellion? Even assuming Oma had her monastery there that far back, the second stargate is buried under the Antarctic ice, not sure ancient Egypt had the tools for Daniel to even get there, let alone survive the conditions and unearth it.

[@John73John]

@@Bearmauls After the 2nd rebellion, they succeed in keeping the gate on Earth (like it was in the original timeline). But then you have the issue of the Egyptians burying the gate soon after the rebellion. That means Daniel would have to go through pretty quickly before they buried it. So he'd have to somehow live out the rest of his life in a mostly-Goa'uld-controlled galaxy until he was ready to ascend. As far as the monastery on Kheb being around back then, then yeah that's a good point -- I have no idea if it was or not. But then, Daniel has ascended enough times maybe he could do it without Oma's help this time.

[@Bearmauls]

@@John73John Ah! I think I misunderstood the timeframe of your comment, since this clip is before they've 'fixed' the timeline.

[@charlesacker9174]

I think Carter is the only one who hasn't attempted to kill Daniel Jackson at some point in the show. Who Shot me? Well you were possessed by Anubis.. Just tell me who shot me. It was Jack wasn't it?

[@amile3643]

Does Repli-Carter count?

[@TheAgamemnon911]

@@amile3643 I'd say yes, she can join the club of those who almost succeeded to end Daniel. Together with Kronos and that one Jaffa from the Season 1 finale.

[@John73John]

Jack wasn't trying to kill Daniel when Anubis was controlling him, just trying to disable him.

[@TheAgamemnon911]

@@John73John Yeah, Jack is in the club for a different reason. Don't know the exact episode, but it's the one where Vision-Daniel nukes Moscow.

[@John73John]

@@TheAgamemnon911 oh that one! Yeah I forgot about that. I think the episode is called Absolute Power

[@lexsmith8689]

i just love time travel scifi stuff in anything.. movies, games, serials.. it gives so much space to imagination and fun.. it certainly makes me crack when it gets to the " kay' we HAVE TO UNDO WHATEVER WE FUDGED UP OR ELSE.." and the prime candidate for this is that O'neill is gonna LOSE IT, become completely banzo, WACKOOO!!!!🤣🤣

[@TheValentineEnemy]

Daniel quickly accepted his...another...death....at this point he doesn't care. Also I wonder how long it took for Daniel to make sure the egyptian guy doesn't go crazy with this time travel and future stuff....how many years out of the 5? That reminds me, the lucky bastards...what if they've went back in time before the original SG-1 did? Or at the same time?

[@toomanyaccounts]

well learning your god is an alien that can be killed would potentially open you to other things

[@toomanyaccounts]

".what if they've went back in time before the original SG-1 did? Or at the same time?" could be easily written as that the jumper will not travel earlier then itself did at the same location or two time travel duplicates cannot exist at the same time.

[@TheAgamemnon911]

@@toomanyaccounts I think the law of maximally awkward reunions forces the timetravel to work out exactly as it did. ;)

[@DoremiFasolatido1979]

What's the problem? The local primitives have a living god that can throw blasts of fire and lightning and lay waste to whole cities, who ride across the sky in impossible chariots bigger than any monument. Telling him they're from the future and everything else would be pretty small potatoes.

[@RoosterMontgomery]

@@DoremiFasolatido1979 You saved me from posting the same thing. Well done!

[@philipchiu9835]

"Daniel Jackson" as Tealc always says 😅😂

[@SyndicateBrink]

”I came here to steal a ZPM, you’re here to make sure he doesn’t take the stargate”

[@jannowak2352]

I am Kateb and i speak english, I `m from another planet but i learn from TV

[@williamr1088]

I love the egyptian music in Moebius.

[@cmj0929]

This has all happened before and will happen again, hi Gaeta

[@ryry187]

So a tape still works after 10,000 years but my vhs copy of terminator from 40 years ago doesn't

[@Ragitsu]

A tape placed in a stasis jar, mind you.

[@ryry187]

@@Ragitsu well that explains everything :) And always remember one shot from a zat stuns the second kills and the 3rd vaporizes

[@mwuerz]

Timetravel sux :-)

[@kenohki3492]

@@ryry187 Remember, the 4th shot brings it back.

[@elysia3294]

@@kenohki3492 that's a good one, have to remember that xD

[@philip-op6de]

I would have loved to see the original Ra and Horus actor return and have them in the show

[@probablynotmyname8521]

Got to love that wonderful perfectly flat and smooth desert floor.

[@DKNguyen3.1415]

The Sun god, Ra, provides!

[@LabradorIndependent]

"I doubt they speak English" What, like every alien on every other planet didn't also speak English?

[@toomanyaccounts]

DHD acts as universal translator. go through a gate with one and you get a Babelfish put in your head

[@ThePCguy17]

@@toomanyaccounts But then there's the whole Abydos thing, and iirc a few planets earlier on where the people actually spoke the language (or a similar dialect to it) from their culture pre-uprooting. It took a bit for the writers to get lazy enough to just say, "screw it, they all speak English and stop thinking about it so hard."

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@ThePCguy17 there was no DHD on Abydos. Jackson taught them. Other times its clearly audience convenience and storywise the characters are speaking their own language. Goa'uld would be the most common language and most of it would come through except terms like Kree which would have multiple meanings

[@ThePCguy17]

@@toomanyaccounts If there wasn't a DHD on Abydos how did they dial the gate there again?

[@toomanyaccounts]

@@ThePCguy17 they moved it by hand, they done it before. from the gateworld article on manual dialing The Torment of Tantalus - Daniel reviews archive footage of early tests on the gate where engineers were forced to turn the gate manually. Prisoners - With the aid of Linea's plant-like cold-fusion power source, SG-1 performs a manual dial to gate away from the Taldur prison. The Fifth Race - With the D.H.D. locked in place, Teal'c attempts to perform a manual dial to escape a warming planet with a binary sun group. Nemesis - Teal'c manually dials a planet to evacuate the Asgard ship Beliskner, which has been compromised by Replicators. Stargate Origins - With no D.H.D. connected to Earth's Stargate in 1938, Brücke's men (and later Beal and Wasif) must manually dial the gate to travel to Abydos.

[@lucluong6928]

Daniel didn't change his hair in five years.

[@PR--un4ub]

Daniel didn't accumulate a tan.

[@PerfectAlibi1]

They had a way to cut hair you know ^^

[@PerfectAlibi1]

@@PR--un4ub Staying in shadows and darkness

[@UpcycleShoesKai]

For the People that Don't Know: This is a Soft Reboot. The original SG1 team died, and these are the new ones. Press F

[@MissGimpsAlot]

Where am I? Ancient ... Egypt?

[@bemasaberwyn55]

Dammit Jack

[@icer1249]

interestingly. this episode shows the crazy impact the tauri had. WIth RA alive sokars plan to takeover never works and presumably gets defeated. Anubis never rises to power either, The tokra have far greater numbers now (assuming they were able to find the spys in there base), and without Anubis the Tolans are also alive and well. The Pegasus galaxy would be completely different with the wraith never being awoken which i guess you can take as a good or bad. Unfortunatly the Asgard would also be all but wiped out by this point having no way to defeat the replicators. All this because jack decided to ring a nuke upto Ra's mothership

[@mpittard21]

Tbh i had checked out of sg1 almost by this point. So thanks fo rposting this.

[@tifreak8x]

A thought.. The ZPM made it to the alternate future.. It's a shame they didn't bring it back with them, then they could have 2 zpms.. :D

[@TheAgamemnon911]

That's the reason why time travel was patched out of our universe.

[@Ragitsu]

_Chrono Trigger_ logic.

[@whitewolf617]

True...that's how they got two Weirs

[@BogeyTheBear]

That's Kirk's eyeglasses all over again. "Weren't those a birthday gift from Doctor McCoy?" "...And they will be again. That's the beauty of it."

[@PerfectAlibi1]

@@BogeyTheBear I hate re-gifters... 😛

[@Everything28208]

If the rebellion failed, then Goauld should've continued ruling the earth, wouldn't they?

[@AzguardMike]

Michael Shanks after season 3 gave off "I dont give a fuck" vibes on set

[@odius94]

"It's Moebin time!"

[@philip-op6de]

Jacks dry sense of humor is what the last few seasons of the show really lacked 😢

[@Ragitsu]

Daniel became O'Neill-lite...

[@michaelhuynh4953]

We had a REALLY hard time getting this ship back here Well why didn’t you just use the cloak? The ship has a CLOAK!? I thought I mentioned it in the message…

[@healthycigarettes5088]

The problem is, if they succeed they still cannot go back to the future.

[@johngregory4801]

All they need is a DeLorean. Getting it up to 88 mph on sand might be a problem, but...

[@davidkelly4210]

They don't.

[@Croftice1]

@@johngregory4801 Well where they going, they don't need roads.

[@varianschirmer9375]

Not the future on Earth... but they could have taken than puddlejumper to other planets in the Milky Way...

[@k.a.p.x3642]

Felix Gaeta is an immortal,

[@TrueNubinator]

He’s also L from Deathnote

[@UnexpectedTokens]

hey felix gaeta got his leg back

[@BriesMlb_]

“Where am I?” “Ancient Egypt?” “No I mean the me from your timeline,” “I killed you.” “Why..” “You were a gou’ald spy.” “A good reason” “It was horrible,” “Yeah I’m sure. Why are you here?”

[@williamr1088]

Can you upload the clip of Alternate SG1 showing Alternate Teal'c the video recording?

[@Ragitsu]

I _could_ , but...why would I do that again?

[@williamr1088]

@@Ragitsu You already uploaded it?

[@Ragitsu]

@@williamr1088 Yes.

[@mrsupremegascon]

​​@@Ragitsu Yeah, but I don't want to dig in your video feed. So can you upload it again, so it can be on top ? I will wait.

[@mrsupremegascon]

​@@Ragitsu kidding obviously, I was making a reference to a scene in silicon valley :D.

[@user-nw6xh7mn3h]

"I doubt they speak English." Why? Everyone else has for the last 8 seasons (the only exception being the very first episode of season 1).

[@Elliott13]

LMAO

[@emdee7744]

Ouch! The ads are at about 5x the volume of the clips. The 1st ad nearly blew my eardrums out. My right ear is still throbbing in pain.

[@PR--un4ub]

AdBlock Plus.

[@Argentum_Rex]

Ads? Are people still having issues with this stuff today? Do yourself a favor and get Ublock Origin please.

[@crackwitz]

Or YT vanced if you're on a phone/tablet

[@EVAUnit4A]

@@PR--un4ub #AdBlockPlus

[@Joshua-ew6ks]

It's too bad that the writers couldn't explain away why everyone spoken the same language. Maybe they find a universal translator? Maybe Teal'c brought his with him. Maybe the Stargate has a way of imbedding a translator into them for must language. (I think Doctor Who did that.) Something. Anything. But it's a TV Show. So we just have to pretend. But question remains. Did the Russians have to speak English to everyone they encountered? (I think they got a team as part of a deal at some point.)

[@Ragitsu]

No matter which route you pick, they are all a hand-wave.

[@BradHann]

As I recall, the Wormhole Extreme episode made a joke about everyone speaking English.

[@thebernice6062]

I really don't think they needed this episode. Or the subsequent two seasons. The show should have ended with the previous episode, with all of them on O'Neill's pier fishing. That felt like the proper ending.

[@willardfasto4494]

Should have been the last episodes

[@idwtgymn]

Doesn't everyone in the universe speak English?

[@paulrasmussen8953]

This had the excuse of the fact daniel had been theor 5 years

[@tank3532]

Temporal Prime Directive.