NIGHTMARE TIME, Ep 1: The Hatchetfield Ape-Man & Watcher World

[@charlottewilliams3691]

WHEN THEYRE SINGING ABOUT THEIR HORRIBLE WORKING CONDITIONS AND SOMEONE IN THE CHAT GOES “this is why they need a union"

[@heyitsarbor7121]

Ah I almost forgot about the uwunion

[@dracothelittlepuff1526]

@@heyitsarbor7121 IS IT ACTUALLY CALLED THE UWUNION NOW-

[@charlottewilliams3691]

@@dracothelittlepuff1526 It better be

[@charlottewilliams3691]

@@dracothelittlepuff1526 or Blinky’s coming for your kneecaps

[@heyitsarbor7121]

@@dracothelittlepuff1526 YES IT IS

[@irisschnabel9622]

you're walking in the witch wood. there's no one around and your phone is dead. out of the corner of your eye you spot him: professor hidgens.

[@linklink3008]

AHH!!!

[@trezalkapeliskova2121]

That's it. We found the perfect comment.

[@alastorbutwithagun]

start singing, he wont attack you, he'll just sing with you, then you steal his gun and shoot a charlatan

[@mossycobbles]

He’s following you about thirty feet back. He gets down on all fours and breaks into a sprint. He’s gaining on you: Professor Hidgens

[@linklink3008]

@@mossycobbles oh nooo

[@aqfanatic]

i find it so hilarious that neither lucy nor ted realize that konk, as a wild forest man, should absolutely already know what rain is and that it won’t hurt him.

[@teamcyeborg]

Stars, too

[@RonnieStewartJr]

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THAT 😂 I was like "y'all think Bigfoot doesn't know about rain?" lmao

[@radiofloyd2359]

real

[@auraliecherise]

@@teamcyeborg Was literally thinking both of these things 😂 it’s cool tho that for the audience it’s a hint that something is definitely not adding up

[@zomzomino]

Well Ted was never the brightest book in the tissue box and Lucy was very desperate to believe Konk was real and probably had confirmation bias

[@tysongubatan5062]

There goes Ted, screwing around with another man's wife again...

[@rockassassin64]

And yet again he lost her to Jeff

[@DeathnoteBB]

@@rockassassin64 omg what if just every character Ted tries to woo ends up with another Jeff character. Next it'll be Man In A Hurry I bet

[@gamingboy-yd2qz]

@@DeathnoteBB why man in a hurry ? lol

[@matthewsarris562]

In the end, he really died doing what he loved...

[@rockassassin64]

@@gamingboy-yd2qz because John McNamara has a husband in wouldn't screw around add band in a hurry has that faralyn energy that the ladies love I assume I'm a lesbian so I don't know if that's something straight girls find attractive

[@wriggleby]

"you can't fake an accent like that" he says in a perfect American accent despite being aussie

[@circatyanrhythm]

HAHA I DIDN'T EVEN REALIZE

[@_veronica_r]

Robert Manion is honestly single-handedly keeping me a part of this community lol

[@wowanimejoshua5149]

When

[@bella7093]

I love that man

[@elisabethboning3147]

TIME ?

[@duckiegoesberserk1313]

I love how when it's not his turn, Jeff stands perfectly still like a powered-off animatronic

[@squiddyanimations6617]

he definitely gives off SCP vibes

[@joshred1571]

@@squiddyanimations6617who are we kidding, he is one

[@indiasmith4627]

Well all that energy he has takes a lot of power, so when they're not using him they gotta unplug him

[@Acorn905]

And i like how happy the blonde girl with the skeleton background looks so happy to be here ^^

[@Acorn905]

He looks like a judgmental God staring upon them

[@annalemons1357]

Shoutout to the person in the live chat who commented 'none of this would have happened if lucy was a lesbian'

[@themoviecritic1092]

OMG I SAW THAT TOOO

[@hannahtaylor8076]

37:45

[@annalemons1357]

@Derpy thank you

[@outside8312]

Lesbianism is often the answer

[@hannahtaylor8076]

@@outside8312 no it's always the answer 😂

[@farateq]

maybe the real apeman was the friends we’ve killed along the way

[@mariah6942]

😔✊

[@gabshickey9743]

🤣

[@maknchill7980]

That was so deep 😭

[@alanoshea2159]

Damn bro that's really deep

[@Ultramegadex]

Nice, I always make jokes like that

[@num472productions]

Is no one going to talk about Hidgens needs 30 million for a musical about a group of friends talking on a football field.

[@lemonace6695]

He wants to buy the football field

[@1fish146]

BUSINESS CALLS UP TO MY ASS IN SHIT *HEAD BANG* WHAT IS THIS BUSINESS?! MARKETS CRASHING, I'M AT THE EDGE OF MY WITSS! I JUST CAN'T TAKE ITTT! WHEN ALL I WANT TO DOOO IS SPEND THE DAY WITH- _greg..._ _and steve..!_ _and stu!_ _and mark....!_ _and leighton!_ *_and...CHAD!_*

[@ivymoonsong3497]

And ring ring the phone rings i answer it oh hey greg...

[@nachosofa49]

I always thought that 30 million dollars was a bit much for a musical, so I actually looked for the price of a Broadway musical, which I assume that Hidgens would agree to nothing less than Broadway. The average price for a Broadway musical is 8-12 million dollars, and with the pitch he gives, I assume that Workin' Boys would be on the cheaper side. So the question is: WHY DOES HE NEED 4 TIMES THE AMOUNT FOR THIS PLAY!?! WHAT IS HE PLANNING!?!

[@thenewcatgirl2727]

@@ivymoonsong3497 I've been SWAMPED.... with BUSINESS...

[@emmae2520]

TGWDLM Professor Hidgens: Emma... The world was already doomed. Not by them, but by us. I've been trying to save something that couldn't be saved. The Hatchetfield Ape-Man Professor Hidgens: I'll kidnap a thousand children before I let this musical idea die!

[@frizb9034]

MONSTERS INC REFERENCE!?!?

[@emmae2520]

@@frizb9034 correct

[@frizb9034]

@@emmae2520 cool!

[@alexconverse4839]

Maybe this timeline takes place after he’s already given up so he just doesn’t care anymore?

[@msilvia4807]

Maybe in this timeline he knows the end of the world is coming, but instead of trying to stop it he is focused on making his dream of performing his own musical come true, even if he has to kill for it (because everyone is gonna die anyways)

[@Lucy-bd6us]

That relatable feeling when the man you employed to sit naked in your house goes rogue and falls in love man I hate that :/

[@DeathnoteBB]

How could this villainous scheme have backfired?!

[@i.m1ss.y0u.s0.f4r]

What if I tried something new and it BACKFIRED

[@moonshoespotter1295]

Has this happened to anyone else? I was like *shwoopsie*

[@Quackervoltz]

@@i.m1ss.y0u.s0.f4r YOU MADE A SCHWOOPSIE

[@sequoiagibson678]

"You can't fake an accent like that" has "if thats even your real name" energy

[@starrynight7624]

Holy crap and they're both referring to curt

[@laurenherb3899]

I think that calls for a toast: *To Honor-*

[@chipswhumflesh]

@@laurenherb3899 to gettinonorstayinonorandifucantcomeinercomeonor GOD BLESS AMERICA

[@imogen_hale]

Mariah and Jon laughing throughout the entire first story is such a mood

[@beatlesforever65]

Imogen And Mariah texting what I’m assuming is their group chat throughout it as well! 😂

[@megspotter]

Omg I loved that. I'm trying to focus on the story and all I see is Jon red faced and laughing 😂

[@KieranP-wr9nl]

And Corey looking bored out of his mind the entire time

[@orchidcapitalofitaly9780]

Timestamp?

[@webby5730]

@@orchidcapitalofitaly9780 for who?

[@scarlettsykes7770]

the hatchetfield ape man was 100% written because of joeys beard and joeys beard only

[@bottomofthebookshelf937]

lottie am not supposed to tell but yes we wrote just cus of Joey (This is a joke but am pretty sure everyone knows but my conscience wont let me get away with false impersonation even as a joke)

[@HerculePyro]

And of course the only one hairier than Joey would be the real one.

[@fnaythn]

Fair reminder, professor hidgens never put his clothes back on after he took them off. He was naked the whole time.

[@alyburr6645]

omg

[@riley659]

so let me get this straight, he chases Lucy into a storm, begs for money while pitching an amazing musical, threatens to shoot her and then gets killed, all while being unclothed? this man really said fuck it lmao

[@thatdisabledprincess]

@@riley659 That man is dedicated to his musical.

[@i.m1ss.y0u.s0.f4r]

I realized that the first time I watched this lmao

[@callmeyourdai5y518]

@@riley659 Hey when you're going balls to the wall you need them all out.

[@priscachavannes6713]

I knew something was off when this man didn't know what rain was even though he literally lived outside for a good portion of his life.

[@lc2341]

RIGHT! he was like "water falls from the sky!" and I was like Sir you live in a *FOREST*

[@cacophonousscream5948]

We do not Stan inconsistencies

[@DeathnoteBB]

adsklfj that confused me too!!! but I was like "Maybe he's stupid idk" I'm a fucking fool!! Dammit Ted

[@cupofcozy708]

True.... UNLESS he had to go into hiding in a cave or something

[@wriggleby]

Exactly

[@fluffypinkpiano]

Living for Joey's 'shut the hell up Lauren'

[@ashleydipaola8598]

Don’t be mean to Lauren

[@farateq]

daaaam joey mills! that was cold! don’t be mean to lauren!

[@kynnedi869]

I literally felt a pain in my soul at the moment idk why 😂

[@offbrandhandymanny]

wait when did he say that

[@kynnedi869]

Chelsea Cleope After Angela’s sniggle got hit in the face

[@thepunkmuppet]

asking someone not to fall in love with joey richter is the most terrifying horror I’ve ever seen

[@hannes4824]

Me before this: pff there is no way professor hidgens could surprise me, I already know what a chaotic mess he is Me now: I underestimated the chaos tendency

[@Addy0302]

Hidgens in TGWDLM: Chaotic Neutral Hidgens in HAM: Chaotic Evil

[@user-qv2qf1jk5o]

Addy 0302 was he not ultimately chaotic evil in TGWDLM??

[@piercedanae919]

@@user-qv2qf1jk5o he was absolutely chaotic evil

[@misslo444]

you didn’t think about the implications

[@Sigmar_Heldenhammer]

Hidgens is the 5th Chaos God

[@pippadee8266]

I love how everyone has forest backgrounds then theres mariah

[@grace5033]

She's starkids meme queen 👑

[@farateq]

spoopy scary skeletons

[@linklink3008]

Yes lol!

[@luuuuux_]

The Karolina Zebrowska of Starkid

[@pippadee8266]

@@luuuuux_ Yes!

[@thegoblinking279]

i love how "blink one, blink twice" is a reference to the whole "once for yes, twice for no" thing used in hostage situations

[@tinyrat275]

Roberts too good at playing crazy people, it’s concerning

[@olivertransmale2630]

Same with jeff

[@digestivebiscuit8967]

And remember higgins is naked for the whole of that last bit

[@rst2775]

For real tho

[@neera3167]

Its alarming

[@thebananaowenslippedon7095]

d i g e s t i v e b i s c u i t 👁👄👁

[@kritisrivastava0]

The opening song is just **chef's kiss** I cannot stop listening to it

[@tish5200]

I'm gonna need that album (and/or clip) real soon cause it's already on loop in my mind and i do not do well with the glitches (also I WILL internalize them if i listen to this version too much which means the right version will sound wrong, F)

[@Tristan-M-1]

@@tish5200 MOOD

[@michalinaata5267]

YES

[@creativeenthusiast9745]

Omg same

[@flandrescarlet506]

I hope they release that song soon, it's so GOOD but the glitches unfortunately interrupt the song so often!

[@adkin0023]

Catching up on lore after NPMD and this lore is RICH😩👌❤️

[@MoaDiarys]

LMAO LITERALLY SAME.

[@Bliffenstimmers]

Same!!

[@12MyNameIs]

Samee Edit: I did not expect to see a guy making out with a car Edit 2: and now they're fighting stoned birds with guns????

[@andrewrobinson4019]

I’ve boarded this boat as well. Don’t know why I slept on these for so long

[@zphd42bkwrm]

same haha

[@DonnaLang42rockglobally]

Hatchetfield = if Stephen King books were musicals.

[@sk70091]

Hatchetfield is to Starkid what Castle Rock is to Stephen King.

[@elenarodriguez2402]

They need to do a production of carrie to join it all together

[@lucieparrish4669]

There actually is a Stephen king musical. His book Carrie has been adapted to a musical

[@Foxy02016]

Lucie Parrish and theres an unofficial one based off of the IT movies

[@toxicsugarart2103]

*laughs in Carrie*

[@sonja5878]

my mood is jon and mariah LOSING IT at “conk”

[@KDsage123]

And Curt!

[@freshpetrichor]

”my name is..” *k o n k*

[@stupidbandkid741]

I find it ironic at 34:32 how Hidgens says “prepare to be recast, Ted”, and then eventually gets recast

[@Sunnyomori649]

WAIT HAHAH i literally never realized that

[@furiousstudios4438]

Twice, too 😭

[@anabominationagainstman3597]

Why did he get recast

[@Sunnyomori649]

@@anabominationagainstman3597 i honestly would just do research on the Robert Manion controversy, would love to explain but i dont want to get any information wrong

[@coleuscast6794]

@@anabominationagainstman3597 robert sexually harassed a member of the starkid band

[@ellenstafford4439]

The ape man lured me into a false sense of security that watcher world would be kind of serious but mostly random and funny and boy was I wrong

[@weewoo4066]

.... w h a t ?

[@jupedia1639]

Same!

[@caswalters8299]

They were so different it kinda scared me

[@user-jx5jn1zb5f]

!! exactly omg

[@ejanocrowsnatcher6785]

my favourite comment from the stream : "why does Jeff look like he's sitting in the middle of a dark road in the middle of nowhere"

[@penelopestoneee]

that would not surpise me

[@amandablack4741]

Because he probably is.

[@thekingofratz801]

he is

[@rowanw1312]

Obviously he is, he’s searching the apeman

[@Fcarpenter23]

The fear I felt when I heard Joey go: “ahoy there boys and girls”...

[@addieparkinson4879]

It activated my flight or fight reflex so fucking fast

[@deathbydrano]

Fr, I almost threw my phone

[@whowouldseekemployment8342]

I was smiling then my face just dropped and I scurried away from my computer

[@brighidcampbell491]

Lol can I have a timestamp for that?

[@charlottedove2875]

@@brighidcampbell491 58:27

[@pippadee8266]

The evolution from 'not my tummy' to 'not my arms' is extraordinary

[@farateq]

NOT MY ARM ARMS

[@linklink3008]

THATS THE SAME THING I SAID WHEN I FIRST SAW IT!!!

[@Quackervoltz]

Next they come for his legs.

[@oonooooooooo]

theory: nick is the all powerful all knowing webby. that’s why he knows everything that happens and puppeteers everything going in hatchetfield

[@dracothelittlepuff1526]

talk about projecting onto a character

[@Fcarpenter23]

This would be really cool... but Uh, doesn’t Hannah say “she” when referring to Webby.

[@penelopestoneee]

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW when they do the episode "the witch in the web" i bet its about webby and nick BETTER PLAY HIM

[@penelopestoneee]

@@Fcarpenter23 and?

[@aly5s1a]

@•c i n n a b u n• I mean cross dressing introduced us to the legend Mama Umbridge, played by another legend, Joe Walker

[@jennyraylen8410]

I lost it when it was revealed that Professor Hitchens literally faked the missing link just to fund Workin' Boys. Now that's dedication.

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

I would

[@ameliaddlc6107]

Okay but Robert singing London bridge is falling down was... Heeeella creepy

[@ravenpotter3]

I joined the stream when that was happening and I was confused Why is Robert chasing someone up a tree with a gun? And who did this Pigeon and i misheard Konk a C0cK

[@sar.the.star08]

The Duck ok this isnt abt this but i saw u on a beetlejuice slime tutorial :)

[@asrieldreemurr1988]

Sarina Weinberg link it

[@sar.the.star08]

Asriel Dreemurr kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJrXgWqGarOrbtk it should be this one

[@ameliaddlc6107]

@@sar.the.star08 :))

[@brendanheath8850]

Non Binary representation and images reminding people to vote at the end. I didn't think it was possible for me to love Starkid more, but here we are.

[@adrienthealien3248]

upon rewatch, i think it’s really interesting the types of weapons that bill and alice use. alice’s gun reflects how she wants to be kept at a distance, while bill’s mallet reflects how he wants to make close contact with her

[@quirrelmorts]

oooh very interesting

[@genm4827]

It also calls back Alice killing Bill with a gun in TGWDLM

[@fatherlessbrotz]

@@quirrelmortsomg it's THE quirrelmorts

[@razarine]

OOooo that’s so good

[@Acorn905]

Ooh! :0

[@kellyrocheleau4660]

This is great, but I love the idea that Dylan's neighbor's are so confused about him filming himself in his backyard singing about nightmares.

[@marisal48]

1:57 is when Dylan saw that his neighbors were watching him so he ran away lol

[@themystifier4328]

I think all the Hatchetfield shows are about someone's worst fears coming true. In TGWDLM, it was Paul's, because he doesn't like musicals and his life became one, and most of his friends were killed or apotheosisized because of it. In Black Friday, it was General McNamara's because he had to face the fact that the country he loves is actually not so great as he watches the world he has sworn to protect fall apart. In The Hatchetfield Ape Man, it was Lucy's fiance's worst fear because he knew what was going on, but she fell in love with someone else, then he died. Plus, she was right all along about there being an Ape Man. And in WatcherWorld, it was Alice's worst fear because she had to deal with her dad, who basically confirmed that he didn't like her and tried to kill her, all while having to sit through something both disturbing and childish instead of being able to prevent Deb cheating on her (and she had to face her fear of heights).

[@misslo444]

woah i like this theory

[@njcg3658]

Ok just wow

[@seven-cats-3]

ooh

[@farateq]

it seems like my brain has been transfigured

[@starrynight7624]

@@farateq blinky at the end of watcherworld: it seems like my eye has been *disfigured*

[@_veronica_r]

Ok but am I the only one who thinks that Hatchetfield Apeman would make a *great* 1950s-style cheesy horror comic?? Like it would be so good and work so well??

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

You can’t have the song in the comic. A mute film

[@RozehKakes]

i can see that really well! the way Angela plays Lucy really gives that old-Hollywood damsel vibe, but its a nice twist on the tropes with Hidgens and Ted's dynamic

[@aidancurry218]

Bad news, Bill is no longer the most morally sound person in Hatchetfield. Good news, we have our first Hatchrtfield stories with happy-ish endings!

[@fairystail1]

I still think Bill is the most morally sound...well besides the Good General and his Peeps But otherwise Bill is good

[@pippadee8266]

Yeah blinky was doing a similar thing to him that wiggly did to everyone else I think

[@aidancurry218]

I don’t think anything after the roller coaster can be held against him because of Blinky, and it shows he really loves Alice that he was able to overcome it. But the drop in morality comes more from things like his initial ignoring of her wanting to be a playwright and his eagerness to have her break up with Deb, even if it meant Deb had to cheat on her. We knew he wasn’t fond of Deb, but what looked like legitimate but incorrect concern in TGWDLM is revealed here to be a lot deeper and less founded.

[@pippadee8266]

@@aidancurry218 yeah I see what you mean

[@pippadee8266]

Who's the most morally sound now then, hannah?

[@emmamonksfield]

what i took from this •becky barnes climbs trees like a fucking squirrel •professor hidgens is way more chaotic then we thought •ted has a YOUNGER BOTHER???? IS IT THE CINEPLEX TEEN????? •alice is VALID and if anyone thinks otherwise they can FIGHT ME •i want the gay vampire musical. i will pay good money for it •is blinky wigglys brother? his husband? his cousin? •Jeff is still in a hurry •Konk is probably a relative of Grunt •sniggles appear for every almighty being. this means that there are probably sniggles for webby •when ted/ konk ws dying, lucy said something about the “black and white tiles”

[@nataliedraper926]

Ok I have a crazy theory: What if Ted's younger brother is Ethan? Ted's last name is a spoiler right? so it would make sense if Ethan is his brother because we already know his last name and revealing Ted's last name would give away the fact that are related which could be relevant later on, and they just don't want us to know yet. Bc Cineplex Teen doesn't have a last name so Ted's last name wouldn't be a spoiler in that case (unless of course that is still true and the Ted last name is some other spoiler) Edit: Ooh ooh! ok so unless I heard incorrectly, he said Ted's brothers (plural) so what if Professor Hidgens (if that is his real name) is one of his brothers and that's why they are working together

[@emmamonksfield]

Natalie Draper YES

[@farateq]

we cannot compete with -squirrels- becky barnes edit: hold on i have two more and i'm happy as a _-squirrrrrrel-_ becky barrrrrnes long as i'm with mister quirrrrrrrrrel becky the hatchetfield pocket squirrel that's all folks

[@nataliedraper926]

@@emmamonksfield Wow that was quick lol. Was the yes just for the Ethan thing or my long shot Hidgens edit?

[@nataliedraper926]

@@emmamonksfield Do we know anything about Ted's parents though?

[@Iamjustabug]

I have generalised anxiety disorder and panic disorder, Alice having a panic attack meant a weird amount, the stress afterwards, the healthy way it was stopped, her general portrayal of a panic attack was actually accurate. It made me feel more seen than I ever expected

[@Kikkarlin]

Mariah has spoken about her own struggles with anxiety so that's probably why she was able to do it so accurately 🥰

[@kaitlynroxana9769]

well. not the first time that alice has pointed a gun at bill.

[@farateq]

nice willow pfp

[@digestivebiscuit8967]

Noo dont hit me in the feels like thatt

[@Intrusivemov]

HEY KAIIT

[@kaitlynroxana9769]

@@farateq THANKS!!

[@kaitlynroxana9769]

@@Intrusivemov HAHSHAH HEYYYY IZ

[@cassidy9703]

Hatchetfield sure is a happening little island. 2 highschools, a boating society, a Ciiiinnabon, a Nordstroms, *AND AN AMUSEMENT PARK?!*

[@TiaMat99]

don't forget the witch wood!

[@_.elena_]

@@TiaMat99 and the old starlight theatre in downtown hatchetfield... the touring production of mama mia went there you know

[@TiaMat99]

@@_.elena_ I could riff off some other exciting places in Hatchetfield... but I won't put NMT spoilers here! Those who have seen ep 2 will know what I'm referring to!

[@_.elena_]

@@TiaMat99 I'm intrigued, maybe I'll find out soon Edit: guess I'll find out on Sunday

[@angeliquesotelo1646]

Don’t forget that there is also a mall WITH a toy store AND A FREAKING CINEPLEX IN THE MALL. The mall that’s in my city is tiny compared to that one.

[@yupekosi413]

can we just appreciate how robert gets SO in character he even does the dramatic eleventh hour sit like hidgens god i love this man

[@mollythegamer5439]

It’s a shame what he did

[@vittahere]

what did he do??? ​@@mollythegamer5439

[@TiaMat99]

sooooo you're telling me Hidgens has been shaving Konk for 13 months? Konky...

[@snotdumpster2322]

THIS SHOULDNT HAVE MADE ME LAUGH AS MUCH AS IT DID KALGKAMFMSMD

[@xoxlillikittyxox1846]

"KONKY" I'M DYINGGGG

[@archnemesis8271]

Jared (dear Evan Hansen) be shaking

[@Quackervoltz]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANNA THINK ABOUT THAT

[@i.m1ss.y0u.s0.f4r]

when I tell you I CACKLED when I read this

[@emmamonksfield]

now we know important things about the characters from tgwdlm ted likes acting

[@optiona3667]

Indeed. That is very important.

[@asrieldreemurr1988]

Also bill is weak

[@ryegrasshopper]

Don’t forget that time Becky barns was in a tree for 2 days

[@emmamonksfield]

Asriel Dreemurr he’s still learning how to kick above his waist

[@asrieldreemurr1988]

Foxglove Fairy not from tgwdlm

[@mollypocrass4562]

I just love how Jon and a Robert are clearly in the same room, and Jon just keeps staring over at Robert doing his Hidgens shtick

[@aG0AT]

I'm really late to this but did John and Robert actually stay in the same room?

[@guccigoosie]

@@aG0ATI think they were roommates for a while

[@FoggyBogFrog]

​@@guccigoosieoh my god, they were roomates😏

[@cyndymyers8916]

At 13:25 ish you can even hear jons laugh coming through Roberts audio

[@Grace-rt5tg]

I love that it’s always, “My buddy Paul” or “My buddy Bill”. Best buddies :)

[@starrynight7624]

They're bestest buddy-wuds

[@mellaniehudson8550]

They wanna be somebodies buddy, somebody who can be their buddy back

[@nintendplays3454]

they’re the bestest of fwendy-wends

[@graceyl.195]

@@mellaniehudson8550 they’re buddies pals homies amigos pizza Nintendo WOO WOO WOO LETS GO

[@svetluskystudios4782]

@@graceyl.195 they're like long lost brothers who found each other

[@madeleine.exists9207]

I'm at the start of Part 2 and Bill and Alice are giving me strong Dr. Doofenschmirtz and Vanessa vibes

[@ace-fn2hp]

oh my GOD

[@maknchill7980]

Now all we need is a bunch of kids who make complicated inventions and an animal with a fedora and starkid musicals can be considered a Phineas and Ferb au.

[@ace-fn2hp]

@@maknchill7980 #BringBackRumbleroar2020

[@annarose932]

I was thinking its essentially A Goofy Movie but for Starkid

[@KuriosRayn]

Bill: "Oh come on, you can't sleep through the show" Also Bill: *Proceeds to sleep through the show*

[@farateq]

alice used an uno reverse card on him but we just didn't see it

[@radvelvetcakez]

​@@farateq or be awake to get it

[@dannyryan9383]

1:47:00 So Matt improvised the underscoring throughout the whole show?? The talent in this company I am constantly amazed! Like he fully brought in character motifs and themes from other shows. I was sitting there thinking that the music was so clever and it was all improvised???!!!

[@TiaMat99]

Matt is so goddamn underrated it's not even funny

[@weesalikesmilktea4829]

Exactly!!! Lord, when bits of Not Your Seed came in during Watcherworld I lost my sh*t. And when Hidgens is telling Lucy to marry him or die, and Matt plays Join Us -or- and Die? Brilliant. And how could I forget the iconic chords of Show Stoppin' Number whenever Hidgens' love of theatre/ Workin' Boys came up! And (!!!) when he wasn't expertly referencing past music, the music that was completely improvised was always spot on for the scene all on its own! Gosh, he's incredible.

[@weesalikesmilktea4829]

Okay I need to mention more things. - The music from TGWDLM's "Okay" scene being used at 1:08:45 which is so perfectly fitting (edit: corrected TGWDLM's spelling) - How that "aliens invading minds" melody, the one at the start of both The Ape-Man and Watcherworld, pops up everywhere - Finishing with Inevitable! (!!!) (!!!!!)

[@elliottelf1634]

@@weesalikesmilktea4829 the scoring that i especially noticed was the use of ‘not your seed’ through the watcher world story but ESPECIALLY near the end when things are starting to patch up in a bittersweet way the motif from the like ‘why does it hurt to love you’ breakdown from the original song started playing!! blew my entire mind! it’s so perfect bc the og song felt like alice regaining and bit of herself for a moment during that breakdown and now it’s used in a similar way here when they’ve broken the spell of Blinky for eachother. story telling through scores is so incredibly under appreciated

[@emotionalmess1286]

Trail To Oregon and Hatchetfield are now connected: In Trail to Oregon, Jack Bauer (I don't know if that's spelt correctly) straight up swallows snake venom then becomes high as fuck and sees the audience. He refers to us as the watcher with a thousand eyes. What does Blinky apparently have? a thousand eyes. This could mean that Blinky has been around since 1800s and has been watching Jeff and his many characters become insane over and over again Thank you for coming to my Headcannon TED talk :)

[@nintendplays3454]

ah i get it TED talk

[@ImAwkwardSorrySorrySorry]

And maybe Craphole is connected to the Black And White because he can hear animals talking

[@rainqueen3385]

i also thought of this!!! thank you!!!

[@googleitlol6590]

To add onto this, I think the Hatchetfield musicals and TTO are connected somehow. I forget which song it was since my playlist was on shuffle, but in a TTO song, Craphole sings something about “ring-a-ling-ding” and I haven’t seen every Starkid musical, but I only ever heard Chris Kringle sing those exact words. Also both musicals deal with musical(s) with different endings and stuff like that, idk. Just a little theory of mine.

[@netgeekdoggirl]

I now we know that one of the monsters is literally a mouthface

[@lisbet_estelle]

not sure who i expected to play the ape man but shirtless bearded insane joey richter is of course the obvious choice

[@lauradanielle.x]

I'm sorry but Curt, Mariah, and Jon all pissing themselves laughing is making my day

[@brighidcampbell491]

Dude Jon's face is RED

[@lavenderrainstudios1747]

Not gonna lie after reading this as I watched this I looked at them the whole time

[@orinpearce5980]

for the entirety of part 1 i was just watching mariah absolutely losing it with pure joy. made my day

[@RitsuSakuma69]

*LMAO THEY’RE SO CUTE I LOVE THEM!!!*

[@emilyeyink2020]

"And she's gay" "love it"

[@alyburr6645]

me with anything

[@daliah8883]

When Alice is explaining her play to Bill he was just being so encouraging like sounds great even when all she had said was that there was a girl. When she said that there was a vampire he was all like sounds scary, but when she said that it was a comedy he said sounds funny and Bill was such a good dad at that moment

[@somnodaur8064]

bill seems like a good dad overall. She’s just being immature about the divorce

[@Galfuria_]

@@somnodaur8064 I'm sorry, I don't think it's immature to be upset that you got ripped away from everything you knew by a man who keeps infantilizing you. Add to that, Bill refuses to accept what she wants to do with her life until he uses it to distract her. All "good parent" points earned by that moment are nullified when you realize that he is the reason they're up there. He asks why she doesn't tell him stuff but he belittles what she does tell him. The Alice he has in his head is no longer accurate to how his daughter actually thinks now. Instead of learning who his daughter is now, he tries to force her back to the way she was. This is what happens a lot with homophobic/transphobic parents. Their child isn't the way they want them to be so they think they can just fix it at the expense of the child. I don't think he's malicious, I just think that he needs to be willing to accept that who his daughter dates is not his choice. He should talk to her about what is and isn't a healthy relationship and have an open conversation with her is he really wants to do something. Separating her from that person is just going to make things worse. Then they become star-crossed lovers and it becomes us vs them. This is going to leave Alice with issues with authority if it hasn't already. I know this because I've seen it over and over and over again with my friends parents while living in the suburban midwest.

[@alexjewett7455]

​@@Galfuria_to be clear, Bill isn't homophobic, he just hates Deb, the girlfriend, specifically. At least in the apotheosis universe. That doesn't make his behavior any better, I just thought it was important for context.

[@Galfuria_]

@@alexjewett7455 I never said he was. my point would be exactly the same regardless of Debs gender. another good point that I didn't put in that comment is the line "Did you know that I wanted to live with you and when you needed to fight you gave her that too" from not your seed in tgwdlm. it shows that he's really not willing to put in the work to parent her and just wants to do the more fun stuff he would do with her as a child rather than give her a stable father figure.

[@alexjewett7455]

@@Galfuria_ sorry, my mistake. And I agree that, either way, he's still a shitty parent.

[@hesitantuser2867]

Mariah losing it in the background is the highlight of the show

[@stanletters]

The minute I found out the SNIGGLES were in this I started SCREAMING And then Angela said DON’T BE SCARED I WAS SCARED ANGELA

[@masonzale9780]

Seth Tan BRO SAME

[@rockassassin64]

Bring Joey mentioned drowsy town I kind of freaked out

[@michalinaata5267]

Yes 😳

[@gretablackwell495]

SAME every time that drowsy town was mentioned I had war flashbacks

[@Foxy02016]

Okay so Drowsey Town is part of the park, in this universe at least I personally believe Wiggly has some sort of attraction and restaurant there, as he would be a friend of Blinky

[@hollisjo4023]

Bill helping Alice down the stairs and asking about her at as shes having a panic attach is some of the best writing I've ever seen. And Cory and Mariahs acting is just phenomanal in that scene.

[@hear1017]

30 MILLION for the musical?? Okay but honestly, why am I surprised at professor Hidgens and his lack of reference to money, the guy lives in a fortress!

[@riversbend9783]

He used it for Alexa

[@Just__Claire]

That’s what I was thinking

[@WielkaAutorkaaD]

I'd like to know one think - does Hidgens live in a different house in every dimension or does he have a big panic room AND a gothic manor?

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

@@WielkaAutorkaaD A big gothic panic room

[@notangiee2155]

correy is literally *SO GOOD* as bill, like his dad-ish enthusiasm is really endearing and a joy to watch

[@farateq]

bill is the god of all dads

[@graceyl.195]

He has major Patton Sanders energy

[@18grape]

Always loved Correy he's a gem

[@Quackervoltz]

Corey is an amazing actor and deserves appreciation

[@kaisetic3150]

Corey is just so good in general. I've never seen him play a single role that hasn't left me speachless

[@thatdisabledprincess]

Around 1:38:23, someone in the chat said "Watcherworld is an allegory for peer pressure and social media," and I think that is a fantastic takeaway from this.

[@emumcemu1605]

Ted loved “A Show Stopping Number” so much that in this one, (I don’t know how the hatchetfeild time thing works), he’s now working with proffessor hidgens to make it a reality and I think that’s beautiful and I love it.

[@emeraldscorner2068]

I think its an alternate reality

[@emalaw1329]

In the Ape Man timeline, TGWDLM never happened, but since all characters seem to essentially retain their personality traits, it's perfectly possible that Ted got to know Hidgens some other way (might have been thru Paul and Emma dating, but also Hatchetfield is both a shithole town and an island, so it's not surprising if, among locals, everyone knows everyone), heard his pitch and vowed to help him produce the show no matter what, being such a fan of it

[@k0pstl939]

"Fuckin go for it"

[@wtfjackaboy]

Hidgens: I just need 30 million dollars. Me: damn. Hidgens: Just enough... *smiles at the camera* Me: wait hold up Hidgens: to fund... Me: yes Hidgens: my new musical... Me: YES Hidgens: WORKIN' BOYS Me: HGJDHDJKSKALKA

[@yeshevishman]

This was all of our reactions.

[@matthewkehoe5027]

I just realized that the character that professor Hidgens plays in tgwdlm 'working boys' song is called 'Henry', and the professor's name is Henry Hidgens...Pretty obvious but still pretty cool.

[@everythingcoffee8901]

@@matthewkehoe5027 I don't know if this is intentional but his name is also close to the professor in My Fair Lady (henry higgins)

[@_veronica_r]

As soon as I heard ssn playing in the background I started *freaking out* lol

[@c0llapsingst4rs]

@@matthewkehoe5027 who is henry hidgens am i missing something

[@ashtuatara]

"Alice Woodward started following you" I CRIED THAT'S SO SWEET

[@alexjewett7455]

I'm glad there's at least one universe where they could fix their relationship to some extent.

[@zoefinkelman]

“shut up jeff! you’re drunk again, aren’t you?” “no, i swear i’m snone cone slober!”

[@fionaearl6601]

snow cone slober!

[@luuuuux_]

S N O N E C O N E S L O B E R

[@coreyblumenthal8791]

taken almost directly from Howl's Moving Castle

[@i.m1ss.y0u.s0.f4r]

it reminds me of “quiet you, you’re drunk!” “no, IM drunk!”

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

Nope… I’m just better now

[@PenninInque]

Spoilers Can we just talk about how Bill loves his daughter SO MUCH that even under Blinky's full influence it could only convince him to break her legs, and when it tried to push him to kill her he broke free of its control instead?

[@Quackervoltz]

Shut up you're gonna make me cry

[@gabesynnott6506]

Bill is the best dad :)

[@mattmclaren3067]

(SPOILERS) It may sound silly but I think I could write a whole essay on Watcher World specifically when it comes to Alice's relationship to Bill. I usually find these daddy-daughter relationships in genre stuff insufferable; you can feel the mean spirited bullshit of the middle-aged man writing it. The daughters are generally either helpless victims or given heavy handed "respect yo' father spoilt little girl" arcs, often both in the worst circumstances. Here, Alice saves herself as much as her Dad saves her and the reconciliation isn't capped with her being shamed or greatly humbled, but simply throwing her Dad a bone because she knows he deserves it. I kinda love it personally because while the narrative acknowledges Alice's flaws, it doesn't necessarily shame her for them which I appreciate.

[@Ruhrohruhroh]

Mariah's acting on the rollercoaster scene was terrifyingly amazing

[@dahlia4144]

IKR I literally can’t

[@luuuuux_]

it was so fucking good

[@ilovelaurenlopez1193]

fr, i was crying at that scene

[@xoxlillikittyxox1846]

I cannot be the only one who loves the line: "Welcome to America, you tea-taxing son of a bitch." Like, I get Hidgens is crazy and all but dang. The way he said it was great.

[@Ballin4Vengeance]

He’s got some old grudges it seems…

[@nachosofa49]

We all love Professor Hidgens, but Hidgens in a loosely fitted robe acting like a frightened mother is just world deserving

[@JeffBlimsFalsetto]

okay but i want to be rescued by Jeff Blim in a random forest

[@alastorbutwithagun]

that would be terrifying

[@jessoyesso9758]

@@alastorbutwithagun I agree. Like in a "what do you want Paul" way

[@fairystail1]

@@jessoyesso9758 hey if hsi wife isn't into it i'll happily choke him out at night

[@chloesw8448]

@@fairystail1 oh to see without my eyes 👁👄👁

[@mushyrical]

The Watchers story had me in tears I’m so happy that it had a happy ending Also now there are 2 musicals that I would pay to see 1. Working boys 2. Every single one of Alice’s plays

[@farateq]

it made me wanna naruto run across the pacific to hatchetfield to give dab a good ol’ slap on the face edit: OH WAIT I MEANT DEB

[@evie3673]

consider: Santa Claus is Goin' to High School

[@mushyrical]

Evie Oh my god I can’t believe I forgot it

[@evie3673]

Creative Panda Girl you FORGOT

[@mushyrical]

Evie Sadly it is true, I did. I am ashamed of myself

[@amrit3883]

It’s so unfortunate that the first song is glitchy, because it’s so damn good Edit: Especially Mariah, like damn

[@leylacorinne4351]

I like your pfp

[@bea2860]

@@leylacorinne4351 Lol I was about to say the same.

[@nerkdurgen5574]

it's on spotify!

[@philipanthonylebanno7089]

Both her voice and looks make my jaw drop every time without fail, also her and Robert laughing is just amazing

[@kyra8926]

It brings me joy how at 16:02 someone types in the chat that Jon looks like a Disney world employee and soon after we see Jon dying of laughter

[@lisadunlap1728]

Thank you for that 😄 he looks so precious

[@dilemmarose]

Honestly it's probably because that's what he is in his first speaking part lol

[@NSUDemon14]

I love how not even a virus can stop StarKid from creating new content.

[@penelopestoneee]

not just a virus- a world wide pandemic

[@danielquiroz7311]

*"The apotheosis is upon us."*

[@beefoster7623]

"This is humanity's eleventh hour"

[@bethanykroemer559]

Lilah Foster “and I’ve prepared something for the occasion.

[@neera3167]

@@bethanykroemer559 Its A Show STOPPING Number

[@Thestarrychildren]

mariah and jon both loosing their shit the entire time in ape man is so funny

[@Emma-yz9hi]

Shout out to Curt for wearing a Wiggly shirt and doing that to his hair during the Blinky song

[@jaycetaylor8349]

"He's watching with a thousand eyes" yo does this prove TTO and Hatchetfield are in the same universe?

[@masonzale9780]

EJ Taylor what is TTO? I forget

[@jaycetaylor8349]

@@masonzale9780 yep Trail To Oregon! In it Jeff's character goes into a hallucinatory state saying he saw "the watchers with a thousand eyes" which was originally implied to be the audience. Now, however, im not so sure...

[@farateq]

thEY'rE GOnnA kIIllL oNE Of uS they'Re gONnA kiLl AAAaaAllLLl oF Us

[@retzrucal]

WHAT. ARE. YOUUU *W H a t a R e y O U u U u u U*

[@kayel3202]

Mason Zale Yeah this gives new meaning to what Jack Bauer saw. We thought it was the audience. But maybe it wasnt..

[@ashleyrukab7059]

I can’t get over Jon and Mariah laughing hysterically when it isn’t their scene😂

[@lindsaym.h.3583]

Curt's accent has a slight "what Thackery Binx would sound like if he'd grown up" at certain moments and that is absolutely a compliment lol.

[@groolissa]

I LOVE this comment because I’ve always thought that Curt sounds exactly like Max Goof

[@hostessofhorror99]

The Hatchetfield Ape-Man: "Oh, I know where this is going..... Okay, neVERMIND-" Watcher World: "oh no.... oh no.... Oh No..... OOOHH NOOOOOO......."

[@farateq]

me during watcher world: **sad, angry, confused internal screaming intensifies**

[@digestivebiscuit8967]

The chat during watcher world was 90% "NOOOOOO" 6% "BILL NOOOO" 2% "Alice wrote nerdy prudess" 2% "Grace Chastity wouldnt treat alice like that"

[@mimik173]

Wiggly, a being with multiple names. Pulling strings on everything.

[@alexandersean4708]

​@@digestivebiscuit8967 OH MY. That last 2% aged POORLY.

[@googleitlol6590]

Jon laughing every time Robert rolls off camera is everything

[@hazelflwrs]

jon in hysterics during the hatchetfield ape-man was so precious, i loved seeing his (and mariah's) reactions

[@kynnedi869]

Ok but can we appreciate Jeff’s lil moment at 3:14 LIKE THE LIGHTING, THE HAIR, HIS VOICE, LIKE *chefs kiss*

[@DeathnoteBB]

That part was so good it sent me to webby's dimension

[@xoxlillikittyxox1846]

Okay, but when Blinky was said to be watching with a thousand eyes, I freaked the hell out. In Trail To Oregon, y'all remember when Jack Bauer swallowed some snake venom and saw the audience? He described them as "the watchers with a thousand eyes". Could Trail To Oregon possibly linked to this Hatchetfield universe? And keep in mind that the audience, "the watchers" were described as taking pleasure in seeing the family's pain. What does Blinky do? He takes pleasure in Alice and Bill's fight, in their pain, *in their familial problems*. So this being has been around since roughly the 1800s based off of Trail to Oregon. Also, Blinky must be tied into Wiggly somehow, as Drowsy Town and The Sniggles make a reappearance. Personally, I'm going to agree with another person's headcanon that they're boyfriends, but it's just interesting to note. TL;DR: We were Blinky the whole time.

[@lemonace6695]

Also on the cortine call of TGWLM Emma talks to the public "why are you claping?"/ "someone help me". So maybe when they are in a death moment (same as in Oregon) they can see us.

[@iivostroamichevolegmdiquar6859]

Wait... if we were blinky the whole time... WERE WE WIGGLY'S SIGNIFICANT OTHER ALL ALONG?

[@skittyloverbaines3284]

@@iivostroamichevolegmdiquar6859 significant brother. 😓🤢

[@kwibloupthesomething]

@@skittyloverbaines3284 but still, it's a good question

[@enchanted_inventory882]

The blinky was inside of us all along

[@themoviecritic1092]

Two places I know never to go to 1. Watcher World 2. Hotel California

[@jennajohnson4087]

But its a beautiful place

[@OhtheHughmanity]

Third place for me is probably the entire New England area. Both in H.P Lovecrafts stories and in real life… the people there are assholes

[@themoviecritic1092]

@@jennajohnson4087 Ik Ik... and I have such a lovely face

[@asrieldreemurr1988]

Why not go to watcher world

[@themoviecritic1092]

@@asrieldreemurr1988 It creeps me out, that story was terrifying

[@sapphicmoonlightlilith]

never would I ever think that there would be a satirical take on modern american neo-puritanism in a horror series about eldritch beings in a quiet midwestern town recorded over zoom.

[@adamdavis1648]

​@Phyl Newbold Depends; is South Park anywhere near the Great Lakes? I honestly don't know because I haven't seen much South Park. I feel like it was confirmed at some point that Hatchetfield is on an island in one of the Great Lakes, though I forget where this was mentioned.

[@adamdavis1648]

@Phyl Newbold Now I'm imaging the various Hatchetfield characters having to hop from place to place on both feet to get anywhere.

[@coyotix]

I absolutely love how when Alice sees her phone intact, she just stares at it in awe and says "p h o n e"

[@joviechan5678]

We stan a non-binany CANON character Also the first song is a bop ALSO THERE ARE SO MANY REFERENCES I CANT EVEN 🤩

[@loonloonlikemoonmoon1577]

Chorn is also canonically nonbinary, but it's really nice to have a canonically nonbinary character who is, y'know, a human.

[@joviechan5678]

@Ty The Great what do you mean "ew god"? Im just curious coz that comment came out of nowhere

[@michi4066]

@Ty The Great The question still stands

[@michi4066]

@Ty The Great Fair enough. What did you mean with "Ew god"? Give me more context. Are you satisfied now?

[@michi4066]

@Ty The Great I fucking asked, thinking maybe you were just a dickhead, but no. You're a fucking coward. If you're gonna act like this why post at all. Take ownership of your crap. You make me sick.

[@maggieandrews7676]

Mariah and Kim together is too much power

[@CaCkYsHoW101]

When Snigglett says “I don’t want to do this anymore,” to us, the watchers with a thousand eyes, and Snigglox, “says Blinky, “Blinky commands it” it’s like Blinky demands that Snigglett stays in the Black and White (as another commenter mentions, it is the script. black in on a white page.). But when Joey starts showing genuine concern for the person playing Snigglett (in this case the starkid, Angela) it becomes real. There’s so much demand to entertain and create content/a marketable product, that it begins to cut into our mental well-being and physical health.

[@Sunnyomori649]

This is actually genius i was honestly a little caught off guard when their real names were being used

[@perry6005]

The way jaime Lynn looks into the camera and asks "are you fucking high?" kills me EVERY TIME bc it's so accusatory and the answer is yes

[@jupedia1639]

Everyone if you invert the colors on your phone you can see that Blinky is just Wiggley’s inverted color scheme exactly

[@KTr0ck]

wigglys whole goal was awakening from the dreamless sleep of the dead, and blinkys goal is to keep everyone in drowsy town. they are each others opposites!!

[@greenhay6237]

STOP SHUT UP THE WAY I LITERALLY JUST GOT CHILLS

[@thejellyfinn]

@@KTr0ck wait huh? Can u explain lol

[@KTr0ck]

@@thejellyfinn in black friday, the tickle me wiggly theme song (the first song of the show) uncle wiley says that wiggly is “in drowsy town, dreaming the dreamless sleep of the dead”. and that whole musical is about wiggly trying to ‘wake up’ and be reborn by entering a portal into our world in the blinky song, we learn its blinkys fur that “makes the town drowsy”. so this is apparently the creature that controls whatever drowsy town is. and all of blinkys minions are constantly warning each other not to do certain things or blinky will wake up and kill them all in its rage, so blinky must want to be asleep and keep everyone in ‘drowsy town’ asleep as well which includes wiggly. these two are at odds with each other for some reason

[@thejellyfinn]

@@KTr0ck OH I FORGOT THE WIGGLY JINGLE EXISTED LMAOOOO MY BAD

[@c0llapsingst4rs]

“PRAISE THE WATCHER” has the same energy as “MOTHER. MUMMY. MOTHERRR!”

[@a-wild-goose]

Every hour is Appreciating Starkid Hour so long as they exist.

[@GabbingandWoolgathering]

Nick is just like everyone's dad trying to reel them back in

[@broadwaybopsanddoo-wops1838]

Once Rob went, “Lucy, I’m HoooOoooome!” And “Lucy, you’ve got some ‘splainin to do!” I knew they made her name Lucy just to make the _I Love Lucy_ references

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303]

They already made the second reference in twisted

[@Rats-xo1yw]

@@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303 wait really?

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303]

@Rats-xo1yw yeah, at one point, IIRC when he finds out jasmine is marrying aladdin, jafar goes "oh jasmine, you've some splainin' to do"

[@justarandomperson5301]

Also wanted to add that I was watching Mariah out of the corner of my eye throughout the entirety of the Ape Man, she made me lose it cause she was losing it

[@MariahCasillas]

u right

[@justarandomperson5301]

@@MariahCasillas it was pure comedy just watching you lose it so thank you on the behalf of all of us

[@PotSmokingSpiders]

@@justarandomperson5301 watching her was the best! In the first few minutes my wife is like "is she texting John?" And we just kept watching them text (presumably each other) and then just crack up!

[@farateq]

the background combined with that is just, perfect

[@farateq]

Mariah Rose Faith you losing it made my year so thank you for that