Starking AM0184 Hibeat Automatic Watch Review

Watches:
Starking AM0184 (on Amazon): amzn.to/2xvV4dc
Or AliExpress: s.click.aliexpress.com/e/WqQBaKG
Orient Symphony: amzn.to/2JnHPjj
Straps:
Leather Nato (on Amazon): amzn.to/2xS4bbg
Blu Shark Nylon Nato : amzn.to/2Ji4K2B
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Today we are taking a look at another affordable Chinese watch. Yet this is something interesting. A $50 High Beat with Sapphire. It's the Starking AM0184. A 40mm very clean looking dress watch, with specs too good to be true.
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[@FitOutPost]

Designed to blend in. Well said.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. Although if you want to see a Chinese dress watch that's designed to be noticed. Check out my Instagram. instagram.com/p/Bj0SItInL0E/?hl=en&taken-by=relative.time Just got that today.

[@alpwalker]

First time on your channel. Really liked your review and presentation, slow and methodical and clear. People like yourself who give up their time to inform others about products or methods and advice are to be applauded. Well done.

[@RelativeTime]

Welcome, and thanks! I just put on my 40th video, it's been fun but a lot of work. So it's always nice to hear when someone appreciates it. Cheers!

[@ShadowKSG]

Love your channel for the professionalism and really amazing production quality, especially with the timelapses of the dial and shots of the movement. Keep it up!

[@snipethebadguy]

Thank you, I consider buying it now that i've seen your review. I like how you presenting the review, with slow clear sentences, much easier to understand and sink in especially for foreigner like me.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. I appreciate it. I've made my last couple videos a little more faster paced. I don't think I'm talking faster, but I'm cutting down on the pauses a little bit. If you happen to watch one, let me know if you think I'm going to fast. Ideally I like to find a nice pace that everyone can enjoy. Thanks again and Cheers!

[@calcramer]

Really glad to see Starking getting some love on YT-I own two from the brand and have been really impressed. This one looks amazing on that vintage green leather strap-would love to see a video on strap options and where to buy. Thanks!

[@RelativeTime]

No one else seemed to have taken a look at it, which was one of the reasons I bought it. Farily impressive for the price, and I'll be keeping an eye on what else they make. It's good to see that they have also spread to Amazon, so people don't have to wait as long for some of their models. Which Starkings do you have? That's a good idea for a video, I'll have to start planning something out.

[@calcramer]

Relative Time I got them on Amazon a few months back - both had half-off coupon offers. A black and yellow partially skeleton sports watch, and a two-tone dress watch with small seconds and date window on a bracelet. $35 and $30, respectively-both hand wind and the dress watch hacks as well. Sadly, I see neither for sale anywhere online, so I’m glad I pulled the trigger. Along with my $45 Casio Duro on an $18 Blueshark nato, they make the perfect (very) poor man’s three-piece collection. :) Love the channel-thanks!

[@Br0ns0n]

Very good review. Great information. Indeed a comparison would be interesting. Oh, and your production values are top notch.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks again. If I do one, it might be a little while. I was thinking of comparing the Orient Defender to Seiko SNZG in more detail first.

[@lordofsage]

Would love to see the comparison between this and the "symphony". As always the review was outstanding.))

[@Texmotodad]

Purchased one, based on your review, and it just came in - yes a tad plain but the specs more than make up for that. Especially like the "pie pan" case. As you, I've already had it on a number of differ straps and with those vs. the factory strap it kicks ass. Thank you!

[@RelativeTime]

Glad to hear you like it. During the last sale I ordered another Starking to check out. Same movement, but a different dial. It will be interesting to compare the two.

[@gregwalker4236]

thank you--great review! just ordered the black dial with bracelet (amazon prime). not crazy about the logo, but otherwise clean dial and case shape got me. hope it's a good one like yours...

[@RelativeTime]

Thank you. Hopefully it's good, and you like it. With Amazon, you should know within a few days. Cheers!

[@liveroy]

Great review, as usual. A dress watchs' main feature is to blend in, not stand out. Only you know it's there and it tells time. The more simple it is, the better. This one can be had for 30 bucks right now and I'm getting one. Too good to be miss out.

[@RelativeTime]

Thank you. For $30 on sale, its a terrific price. Just one more watch just reviewed this as well. I believe he called it "remarkably descent". Which to me sounds rather contradictory, but describes it well. Cheers!

[@mduklas]

Got one and, well, my wife took it from me :) She loves it on black nato and even better on black and pink perlon. Overall nice watch!

[@RelativeTime]

Yah... I've been there. So far she hasn't really noticed this one yet.

[@BarnOwl61]

Thanks for the review. There are a lot of hidden treasures coming from the east. This one is a pleasant surprise. I personally appreciate the clean dial a lot. The only thing i didn't like was the finishing of te movement. It really needs some more attention if you have a crystal caseback. I would appreciate a comparison a lot. Thanks from the Netherlands (Europe)🙂

[@RelativeTime]

The movement is definitely better then some I've seen. But they could do a little better. It's hard to see in the video, but at an angle you can see a big white plastic movement holder. Which always bugs me a little. If your not going to use metal, at least paint it to blend in more. Thanks for watching, and stoping to comment!

[@keving1633]

Great find and a quality review on your part. I purchased a similar model on amazon for 39.99. It has a few more colors and the strap is suede instead of leather. It also has the same hi beat movement. The model is the AM0255. Keep up the great work!

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! Someone linked me a picture of a maron version a few days ago. But I didn't know they were on amazon, and I hadn't seen the other two colors. They look nice, and $39.99 is an awesome price. Hope it works well for you, which color did you get?

[@keving1633]

I purchased the blue version. My review is the only one on amazon thus far and I’ve left some pictures. I have no complaints. We’ll see about the longevity

[@wolfdad1512]

Just ordered one. for 47.50 all in for the metal bracelet it is worth a gamble to me. thanks for the review.

[@RelativeTime]

Your welcome. Hope you enjoy it.

[@donp2166]

Great review, lots of good points.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! I just noticed that this vid has gotten a small surge of views in the last few days. So I'm guessing it's back on sale. 😋

[@donp2166]

@@RelativeTime If they ever put these specs into a field watch style, I think demand would be sky high....especially with sapphire since a field watch is where that would seem more useful .

[@RelativeTime]

I hope they do. A while ago I a comment from someone at the starking store on ali-x. So I think they are paying some attention to whats going on with reviews. And today Just one more watch reviewed this one too. So hopefully they are also looking at comments and suggestion to improve.

[@pstamaria]

Nice looking watch. A simple looking and hand winding watch, which is what I like

[@dangerspouse4741]

A thorough, and thoroughly enjoyable, review (not to mention, you've got a serious set of pipes). I had to chuckle at the irony of a watch changing dates at an odd time on a channel called "Relative Time" :) I like the alternate straps you used, particularly the green leather job, but I'm not sure any of them changed my overall opinion that the face is just too bland for me, hi-beat or no. Either way, excellent job on the video! Subscribed, and am looking forward to more.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! Although I think the "Epic Voice Guy" who does honest trailer is better. Love that guy! I hadn't thought of that, but I can appreciate the irony. 👍😁 The Starking is a little boring, which is why I started throwing on all the straps to being with. Trying to liven it up a bit. Not just for myself, but I figured no one would want to stare at a plain white dial for 15 minutes. Also why I showed it next to that watch at the end. If I could swap that movement into that quartz watch, it would be something really interesting. Although that seems to be becoming a common theme with these watches from China. Sort of a series of missed opportunities. Just watched your video on Holuns and Orient star. I liked it. You said you were testing equipment. Does your wife have a channel?

[@dangerspouse4741]

Lol. If you're married, this scenario will not come as a surprise: Her: "Honey, I want to start a KZbin channel. Buy me a camera and set things up!" Me: "Ok." Buys two cameras, lenses, soft box lights, lavalier, etc. Even RTFM. Makes two test videos. Me: "There you go, dear. I ironed out the lighting problem in the first video. You're good to go." Her: "Hmmm. I'm not sure I want to make videos any more...." So, yes she has a channel. As to whether or not she'll use it now....which way is the wind blowing? (I think if Epic Voice Guy ever disappears...you're in, giggity giggity!)

[@RelativeTime]

LOL. Yah been married 13 years, so I know how it is. I'll let you in on a little secret. It took about 2 months of making these before I started getting any kind of audience. So by my 7th video I was a little frustrated. So I decided to try something random, since no one was watching. I think it's the timex flyback one. I decided to do the closing bit in my Radio Jazz DJ voice. I'm embarrassed to say, its got over 3k views, but no ones ever mentioned it. So if your really bored check it out. 🙃

[@dangerspouse4741]

Will do - bored or not :)

[@-----REDACTED-----]

Okay...I am thinking about getting one... It does look fantastic especially for the price! especially delicious with that leather nato strap! I am getting both.

[@RelativeTime]

I haven't checked out starking in a while, but I assume they are still selling them. One interesting thing they started doing was to introduce Miyota movements into some of their watches. In some ways that should help put people who were concerned about the movement at ease. Yet it also took away what was interesting and different about their watches.

[@Jiangster]

I love how this watch looks and I want to pick this up for my every-day watch. I'm a bit concerned about the accuracy though. After owning this watch for a couple weeks, have you noticed the accuracy improving/worsen from the +/- 6 seconds/day you described in the video?

[@RelativeTime]

So far it hasn't gotten better or worse. It seems to be right around there. That might change over the course of a few years, but the short term I don't expect it to shift too much.

[@Georgy_47]

I bought this watch 2 watches vostoks from meranom came in about 2 weeks im soo happy abt them i sleep with my watches on hehehehe the vostok scuba and a classic amphibia with couple bezels i have to say starking is something different i have ck and Kenneth cole and seiko i always pick it up like the amphibias love ur videos and i take them very seriously when looking for my next watch

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. Always happy to help. I actually ordered another Vostok a few months ago, but never showed up. I used someone new on EBay instead of meranom. So I won’t do that again. I was trying to get one of the ones with a 24 hour dial. I guess I’ll give it another few weeks, then just order from Meranom.

[@Vidmr2407]

Great review as always! Would be nice to know how long the movement lasts (i dont mean like decades, but like does it last 3-9 months and then disintegrate, or several years). I had some Parnis watches several years ago that looked and worked great for a few months, but then the gears fell apart due, i think, to low end materials. would be good to do a 6monthly update review on performance. :-D

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks. Starking has evidently realized that their hibeat movement is unique to the market place. In the last few months, I think they have been contacting and sending out watches to a number of channels. Including a few really big ones. So they have now sold a bunch of these. If they start failing, I'm sure people will start talking about it. If not here then on forums like watchuseek.

[@Vidmr2407]

Relative Time That makes sense! thanks

[@TheRev9312]

Hey! If you want something with more character starking has the am0187, which seems to have the same specs but a different dial for a few dollars more.

[@RelativeTime]

I've seen it. I have a back load of watches to look at already, but with the sale I'm tempted. Although not sure which color I would pickup...

[@chrisb5917]

I have the Starking AW225 (for $48) with the Blue hands and absolutely love the look and movement. I see this maker being the Chinese Orient of the future.. (maybe LoL)

[@RelativeTime]

LOL.. maybe. They are moving in the right direction. They make their own movements, expanding their designs. I've noticed a bunch more appearing on Amazon in the US. And I'm assuming they now have a PR department. I'm guessing it's not a coincidence that a few big channels reviewed Starkings right before they went on sale last month.

[@juanpatron7029]

Very nice watch

[@josepmariaaguascaribot9239]

Looks gorgeously classy. Another thing is their inner reality. Regards and thanks for sharing.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! I'm still planing on comparing it to an orient symphony. But I just got other watches I've been looking at in the meantime. Thanks for watching!

[@josepmariaaguascaribot9239]

The present Chinese watchmaking means a new paradigm on the economic parameter of value for money.

[@Cal316326]

I just got the quartz chrono starking today. Love the look too bad mine has loose fitted hands.The customer service was quick to response tho. Tempted to get this hi-beat as they are having a sale now at $36. Thanks for the vid of the white dial which I am interested in.

[@RelativeTime]

The chrono is great for the price, I'm glad you like it. $36 for the hi-beat is pretty good for it. The recently started selling them on Amazon, which right now I think they are $49. There is also the AM0255. It's newer, and has 3 more colorful options. The review on Amazon says it uses the same hi-beat movement. But I haven't got one myself to check. So could be another to look at. I'm trying to resist the Ali sales, as I have a bunch to review as it is. But I keep looking at the AM0259. I must resist, but I probably wont...😋

[@Cal316326]

More colour options are always good. For me it is not worth it buying from amazon. Most sellers do not ship to my country or if they do ship the shipping often cost too much. On aliexpress I will always get free shipping.

[@storm3016]

Nice review. I agree it's a bit boring looking, yet I kinda still want one with a black dial. Check out the AM0265 as well, 4 different models, slightly fancier looking, 41mm case and a miyota movement according to the Gearbest-specs.

[@robbabcock_]

Pretty cool watch. Reviews from buyers seem to be mixed, maybe CQ isn't great. But it looks like a pretty good deal if you get a good one.

[@RelativeTime]

I haven't looked at one in a while. I think this might of been the first starking review on youtube, everyone else seemed to follow suite. Then Starking started sending watches to reviewer when they realized they had something interesting. Which they then followed by making a ton of different models all with this movement. I haven't looked at one in a while (even though they have asked) because I didn't see anything that sparked my interest. But I was getting concerned that they were starting to push the limits of their QC.

[@tomcaldwell2878]

I also have the Starking and find it looks slightly bland. I think some chrome around the date would have been a good touch. Being so plain however means you can jazz it up with different coloured straps. All in all I'm happy with it at the price and for me it's an occasional wear.

[@RelativeTime]

That's pretty much how I feel. Hopefully they use that movement in something a lil more interesting.

[@Kmicic023]

Wooow, nice watch with auto movement :)! Very nice watch with simple-looking dial I've got only one automatic watch - Amphibia in 710 case :) But, I have got a Komandirskie K-34 with Miyota chrono movement and a VE Gaz 14 with Miyota quartz too :)

[@RelativeTime]

How do you like the Komandirskie?

[@Kmicic023]

@Relative Time I bought this one - K-34 series - all stainless steel: rosyjskiezegarki.pl/pl/p/Komandirskie-K-34-340038/230 I am swimming with it with no problem. Very good underwater looking :) But lume... ooohh... Superluminova they said. On hands - good enough On indexes... is so bad, but lume is in metal frames ^^ Signed, black coated, crown ;) My K-34 is looking like soviet submarine as hell :D

[@RelativeTime]

Very nice! I haven't a chrono version before. I've been looking at the GMT verison with the fully lumed dial. meranom.com/en/komandirskie/vostok-watch-komandirskie-k-34-2426-476773.html

[@Kmicic023]

It will be good EDC, military style, mechanical watch I think :) K-34s have got WR at 100 meters so they're practical with dive ability ;) And they are looking so "soviet-era" with english letters like for "export" models :) P.S. K-34s are out of production so value of them is increasing - I hope :D My chrono was one of the last available as new ;)

[@MobiusCoin]

I think the taper makes a world of difference. It shouldn't but it changes its visual appearance on the wrist, it changes how it sits on the wrist. I have a Citizen Nh8350, the blue dial one. And I love that dial but the case is just a cylinder. And after having the Starking, it makes hard to go back to the Citizen.

[@RelativeTime]

I think it just narrows the surface that contacts your wrist, so it makes it feel smaller then it is. I think that's the same reason the exhibition case back on subbys come down to a narrower point. It lifts it off the wrist, and feels smaller. Starking is starting to make some more colorful options, but so far nothing as good looking as that citizen.

[@emreyigin5535]

Very nice watch and very nice review. I am going to buy a leather strap with watch. On Aliexpress it is written that band with is 19 mm. Should i order 18 mm or 20 mm strap? Thanks.

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks, appreciate it! I saw the 19mm on Ali as well. But the strap itself says 20. I measured it, and it is a very tight 20. I think its about 20.15mm. So "most" 20 mm straps should fit. Everything I had on it was a 20. But you might run into some that will be too tight, especially if its a metal bracelet.

[@emreyigin5535]

In addition the review of other Starking (Piaget polo homage) would be great.

[@RelativeTime]

Its been on my to do list, buts been knocked back a few times for others. And my to do list keeps getting bigger. 😁 I was actually deciding between doing that, and a Pagani Design Cocktail time homage in a few weeks. I haven't decided between the two. But since you asked, I'll probably do the Starking review first.

[@emreyigin5535]

i am sure that both of reviews will be great as both of watches are great but starking is more interesting for me because of its quality/price ratio

[@Vidmr2407]

yours still running ok? mine is fine after 9 months or so. I saw someone on youtube do a full tear down and he saw scoring under one of the plates but no debris - starking said they stood by a 5 year - no problems estimate on this movement. I still think it is very nice for $50, especially if it ends up trouble free for a few years.

[@RelativeTime]

I saw that video. Very interesting and maybe the best starking video out there. The key thing is that for the price these are pretty good. Hard to find anything else with a highbeat movement for $50. Mine was working fine, but I sold it a month ago. So I can't say how it's going now. I had 4 starkings and decided to only keep one. So that one which is the grey with the sub second dial. That one I can say is working fine still.

[@Vidmr2407]

Relative Time Right! ..and he did briefly emphasize how nice the case and overall features were, despite his reservations on the movement. Interesting that he installed an 8215 in his! Thanks for the reply!

[@joesifford5540]

I have 2 Star King watches. Both about 3 years old. Accurate, reliable and generate lots of comments....My Vostok's do too. Just sayin'

[@sasarasasarasa]

They manufacture their own movement.... I respect that.

[@RelativeTime]

This watch has been fairly succesfull for Starking. I've noticed that they are capitalizing on it, and putting that movement in a lot more watches. I've also noticed that they are appearing on a lot more channels, sending some watches out for review.

[@sasarasasarasa]

@@RelativeTime Don't you think this one with a light cream background would be gorgeous? And a fine strap of course. Anyway... sold!! 😎 Great channel. Cheers.

[@leereyno]

The rear crystal MAY not be sapphire. You'll need a diamond tester to verify this. They can be had on Amazon for less than $20. You can find youtube videos on how to use a diamond tester to verify a sapphire crystal. I've got an aliexpress watch with a miyota 9015 movement and only the front crystal is a sapphire. The movement in this watch appears to be a DG2813 (or one of its derivatives). If it is one, then this is a 21,600 bph movement. However, I've read rumors that a 28,800 variant of this movement exists. If so, that may be what this watch is using. The 2813 is not a high end movement, but they are known to be reliable.

[@RelativeTime]

I've since picked up a diamond tester. So far most AliX watches only have it on the front. I've seen lots of discussions on the movement here. Starking swears it's theirs. Although I'm sure they based it on something.

[@neilpiper9889]

Movement mystery would put me off. I have Seagull watches all Inhouse with genuine Seagull movements.

[@RelativeTime]

Supposedly it's their own in-house movement. I can't remember what it's based on. There was a whole forum post on Watchuseek of people debating it. But because this one has sold so well, they have thrown that hi-beat movement in a bunch of new watches on Alexpress. Time will tell on how good it is.

[@shaunmclaughlin5167]

On the official Starking AliExpress store there are two versions of the watch with slightly different names at different prices. Anyone have any idea what the difference is? I was wondering if there different revisions or something.

[@RelativeTime]

Do you remember what the model number is? This one is AM0184, and I think it came out first. Since then a few more have been released with slightly different designs. But I "think" they have the same movement. I've ordered one of the new ones to check out as well. Also, depending on where you live, Amazon has started carrying them. I'll update the description. Or just search that model number. Cheers!

[@shaunmclaughlin5167]

On their official AliExpress page the cheaper one is listed as AM0175 in the URL, yet AM0184 in the product description. Apparently both are out of stock with a 1.5 month lead time before they're back.

[@RelativeTime]

Shaun Mc Laughlin Could just be a mistake when they listed it. Not sure. Not surpised they are out of stock. They sold a ton of these a few weeks ago during their big sale. They had them down to $30. It also looks like the raised the price up a bit too after that. I'd check back in a week or so. I think they should go for closer to $40 now a days. Amazon in the US has them right now for 47.

[@ravibhardwaj097]

Great video.. Can we change the straps?

[@RelativeTime]

As long as you get the right size, you can put whatever looks good on it.

[@latte2475]

Where I can get that green strap? What the name of it? The link you give is not available anymore.

[@RelativeTime]

I got it off ebay, so that auction / item listing probably ended. But here is another one. Personally I don't think it's that great a strap. But it's cheap, and looks good. Especialy for the camera. www.ebay.com/itm/18-20-22-24-Vintage-Distressed-Aged-Calf-Military-Bomber-Pilot-Watch-Band-Strap/232698438784?hash=item362de86480%3Am%3Am8lW8qvcojFTT90-25gDwWw&var=532203531921

[@latte2475]

@@RelativeTime Thank!!

[@georgechau6800]

The Starking watch is supposed to be an in-house movement. The problem is nobody seems to know much about the movement itself. I'm guessing it is probably an existing movement that has been converted to high beat. In-house movement doesn't necessary mean that it's good and usually it's extremely expensive for any company to create their own movement, which is why so many micro brands use the NH36. I bought a Starking and the second hand has an intermittent stutter. They obviously haven't worked out the kinks in the high beat movement. Personally, I regret getting this watch. I should have gotten the Cadisen or the Guanqin since the Seiko movement has a much better track record of reliability.

[@RelativeTime]

Did you notice the stutter right away? Or did it develop over time?

[@georgechau6800]

@@RelativeTime the stutter is intermittent and so it is hard to determine whether it was already doing that and just got worse or it was like that from the beginning and I just wasn't paying enough attention. I sent it back to Starking earlier this week so depending on how many watches they have to repair and how many people they have dedicated to do the repairing, it will take at least 6 weeks for the watch to return but likely a bit longer.

[@syndicatedsatellite7288]

Christopher over on It's Constipated did a recent bad review of this watch.. He pointed out the second's hand stall when knocked as a defect... Isn't that stall normal when knocked, with some Chinese movements?

[@RelativeTime]

Is that a real chanel name? Or you just messing with me. 🤔 But yah more then just Chinese movements. Miyota is the most famous. It's called an indirectly driven second hand. Vostoks also have them. It's technically a protective feature. Doesn't effect time as it skips ahead faster to catch up.

[@syndicatedsatellite7288]

@@RelativeTime The channel's real name is, It's Complicated, but since Christopher who operates the channel runs down the character of Invicta owners.. Anyone who likes Invicta calls the channel, It's Constipated. Christopher did a couple of positive reviews of Starking watches previously.. It looked like he purposly did a negative review of the latest Starking.. Probably due to a video posting time and payment dispute.

[@RelativeTime]

I just tried searching for "It's Constipated".... yah.... not doing that again. 🤣

[@RelativeTime]

Ok just watches it. I Don't know enough about him to know if he knows what he is talking about. But I wouldn't call +16 sec a day inaccurate. Hell most of the Seiko movement's I've gotten are around there or higher. So far this is one of the best I've seen about starking. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpCol5SobKmfr9k As he takes it completely apart... even swaps the movement for a Miyota. Kind of fascinating. But I know what hes talking about at the beginning saying the lady is relentless. Part of the issue is that there are two groups sending starkings out to people. The people that run the shop on Aliexpress and a separate group on Amazon. The Amazon person told me they were all part of the same company, but when I asked AliX, they had no idea who these people were. Honestly, I'm not sure if either are really connected to the brand, but the Aliexpress gets newer models. They are also much nicer. The lady who is the main contact at amazon is rather demanding. I had the same experience when she sent me a watch. I had to write a looooong "come to jesus" email to her before she way backed off. Basically reminding her I'm doing a review, not making her a commercial. If the Aliexpress people have somethign I might review another starking, but right now I haven't seen anything too interesting popup.

[@syndicatedsatellite7288]

@@RelativeTime Christopher only likes Rolex watches and a few Seiko and Omega watches... He has bad shirts, bad decor and most of his videos are an embarrassment to himself...

[@jameshaury2716]

If you ever get in trouble though be advised MR STAR KING is the late kim Jong un(Nothing like MR ORIENT) he does have a small second hand though.

[@jameshaury2716]

You idiot! Thats Kim Jong Il. He probably won't be much help unlike MR ORIENT.

[@RelativeTime]

😀 That would make a funny parody. Although I'm betting the starking wouldn't appreciate it too much. 😋

[@josepmariaaguascaribot9239]

Keep the time with a Hi-Beat movement on decent accuracy at this price seems unveliebable ! Regards.

[@RelativeTime]

Agreed, it seems to good to be true.

[@nogonoma]

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[@farukhhasan11]

It's a typical sea gull movement. Starking does not produce its own movements. Only sea gul movements have that typical sea shell like texture.

[@RelativeTime]

You mean the texture on the rotor? I've seen some discussions on this, but never saw any definitive conclusion. Most of what I've seen suggests they make the movement, but it's based off another design. Seagull would be a likely candidate, although I think Seagulls are mostly based on Eta movements. The only reason I doubt it's a seagull is that most of the seagull watches I've seen cost a lot more than the starkings.

[@peoplez129]

Which strap is the green one?

[@RelativeTime]

That green one is a cheap one I got off eBay. It looks good, but is so so. If you want I can try to track it down again, but the auction is long gone.

[@joshaguirre634]

How do you remove the straps?

[@RelativeTime]

Here is a descent video showing how. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmbXknqQhZ6Xe5I I've been asked this a few times, so I might make my own soon. Thanks for watching!

[@kschuman1152]

Higher frequency doesn't really translate to better accuracy. If a movement beats at 28.8K per hour, and each beat is off by the same amount as a movement that beats at 21.6K, the 28.8K watch will be *less*, not more accurate. It's how closely the beat actually conforms to the expected # of beats per interval of time, that is, the precision of each beat, that determines the accuracy. People tend to covet high beat movements, but there are some downsides: a shorter power reserve, likely a more frequent need for service (as it's wearing out the parts at 4/3 the rate of a 21.6K movement). On the positive side, you get a smoother second-hand sweep.

[@RelativeTime]

I'm not an expert, and could be completely off about it. But this is why I always thought it was more accurate, and I'm just pulling this off the top of my head. So forgive me if it's a little convoluted. If the watch was stationary and not moving, I think your 100% correct. Precision is how reproducible each beat is, and if there are not external forces on the watch, each beat should be the same. Ignoring any differences in the tension of the spring over time. But as the watch is moved around, specifically through the centripetal force on your arm it effects the precision of each beat during that period of time. Which I believe is one of the reasons the military wanted tuning fork and then quartz watches in aircraft. Less impact of the g-forces during maneuvers. Anyway, I don't belive the higher beat movement makes each beat more precise. Simply that the beats are faster, and more of them. Which should lessen the overall impact of external forces on the overall accuracy. If that makes sense? Statistically speaking if you are analyzing an imperfect system, the more data points you have usually leads to a more accurate result. As it lessens the impact of outliers. I hope that makes sense, but again I'm not an expert. So perfectly willing to admit if I'm wrong. Cheers!

[@TheChadWork2001]

Is there a difference between saying "an in-house movement" and "an in-house movement so to speak"? The latter implies it doesn't quite count because it's a cheap Chinese movement.

[@RelativeTime]

In this case I said that not because it's a cheap Chinese movement, but because some people weren't sure if it was true or not. As no one had ever really heard of them before. I think this was actually the first Starking review on KZbin, not their are a bunch more. The strange thing is that they seemed to have switched to miyota movements. Which on one hand lets people have more confidence in them, but at the same time takes away what was interesting or special about them.

[@TheChadWork2001]

@@RelativeTime I just got one of these to see it in person. Seems too good to be true for the price. Thanks.

[@moisttroglodyte2308]

How long does a starking watch last??

[@RelativeTime]

That is the question. They only started becoming well known on the internet 6 months ago. The company has been around a while, as well as the movement. Usually many of the Chinese companies base their designs off of well tested Swiss and Japanese movements. So hopefully it will last a good while. But right now no one can say for sure. A lot of watch geeks have been buying them, so if they do start to have issues it they will start talking about it here or on forums.

[@samsum3738]

For the price , it seems reasonable .Even the buckle is signed and sapphire crystal.

[@robertbraun4708]

CORRECTION: The automatic winding part is not a "PENDULUM" as you called it. A "pendulum" swings back and forth from a hinged point at it's top point which this part DOES NOT. This part ROTATES around a centered axle and is called a "ROTOR". I am a retired professional engineer. All other watch reviewers refer to it correctly, View some of them. Errors like this make you appear not very knowledgible or professionable. No offence intended.

[@RelativeTime]

I don't know... sounds like some was intended.😎 Regardless it's water under the bridge so to speak as this video is almost two years old. Like all things there a learning curve when it comes to learning about watches and doing these reviews. So yes you are 100% correct, and it's lesson that has already been learned.

[@YorumiTech]

I think the movement is a chinese clone of the 2824 2

[@RelativeTime]

Maybe, I'm not an expert on movements. There is a whole discussion on it over at watchuseek. forums.watchuseek.com/f72/starking-automatic-4573285-6.html I think Starking says it's their own development, but I'm sure it was based on something. Cheers!

[@MemtemEX]

Considering the price and the decorations, I think it is DG2813, a clone of the ETA2813. Or at least it is based on the 2813 architecture.

[@mikael3287]

This looks like a seagull movement or Shangai movement, clone of ETA 2824.

[@RelativeTime]

Supposedly this is the movement. www.starkingwatch.com/jscp/showproduct.php?lang=cn&id=84 It's an in house by Starking, but it could be "inspired" by 2824. I'm not that knowledgable about movments as I would like to be.

[@NathanChisholm041]

The Chinese are making some great value watches like my Parnis collection off 8 watches! It just shows how much the west rips off customers with their often outrageous pricing!

[@RelativeTime]

So which Parnis should I take a look at?

[@TurfSurf]

It’s not Starking, it’s Star King.

[@RelativeTime]

"Peter Jackson Quill, He's also known as Star-Lord" "Who calls him that?" "Himself mostly..."

[@vincewhite5087]

Hand winding. Don’t think the Orient has that.

[@RelativeTime]

Nope, but Orient does upgrade their movements now and again. So perhaps in the future.

[@watchit2640]

It's called a rotor not a pendulum

[@RelativeTime]

I've seen it referred to as both online, but I assume rotor is the proper terminology? Which makes sense. Is pendulum just a hold out from grandfather clock days? The funny thing is, about a month ago I got a Tevese Rolex homage from Aliexpress. The rotor wasn't spinning very freely, so I contacted the seller in China. I told them as much, but they didn't quite understand what I meant until I sent them a video. The response "I see what you mean. Do you mean the pendulum?"

[@watchit2640]

Relative Time that's incorrect. The equivalent of a pendulum in a watch movement is the balance wheel

[@RelativeTime]

I was more pondering why I have often see the terms used interchangeably, then the corresponding mechanism. But I believe you are correct that rotor is the proper terminology.

[@matt4398]

I want to like it, but the name and symbol seems so fake, it looks like 'stalking' with a wagon wheel

[@RelativeTime]

Now that you've said that, that's probably what I'll see every time I look at it. 😋 For better or worse, I'm betting you will see more from Starking. They have started stocking themselves on Amazon here in the US, and I believe they sold a ton during the Ali-express Sale. There were a few bigger channels that all did a video on this watch, right when the sale started. So I'm thinking they are starting to get a little bit of a PR machine going. I wasn't planning on it, but I also bought another stalking (err starking) before the sale ended. Same movement, but a little bit more interesting dial.

[@neilpiper9889]

Movement secrecy. No way I would buy it. Low beat watches have a longer life. My two oldest watches are 1800bph. A 1939 Russian Kirovskie and a 1954 Omega with a 266 handwind movement.

[@RelativeTime]

Someone below commented that it's for sure their own in-house movement. Although how well it lasts, only time will tell. How often have you had those watches serviced?

[@neilpiper9889]

Relative Time I inherited the Omega from my grandfather-in-law. Serviced once in 1970s. The Russian I bought recently from the Ukraine. I collect vintage Russian and Chinese watches. I have a Vostok 2234 from 1985 which is also a 18,000 Bph movement. This watch is handwinding and hacking. Pull out the crown and the movement stops. Chinese vintage. I have a Shanghai 1970s reissue with the 19 Jewel 7120 movement. 21600bph. I have a new Parnis with a Seagull handwind movement running at 21600bph. Keeps good time at +5 seconds per day. It has a huge power reserve of 56 hours. I checked it. I have it on a 22mm taneather German strap. I love it. I have a Winner Rolex Sub automatic that I bought for £12. Keeps perfect time after I regulated it. Might try this one you are reviewing here.

[@georgechau6800]

I bought one(AM0184)and after a month, the second hand started stuttering occasionally. I regret taking a chance on this one. I have reached out to Starking and they have not responded to my request for a replacement or refund. I would not recommend this watch, Do not buy.

[@RelativeTime]

That's unfortunate. If you don't mind me asking. Does it stutter all the time? Or just with sudden movements like a Miyota? Also which place did you buy it from?

[@thomasalundago6332]

If you're looking for a watch, telling accurate time is a serious matter, this is not the watch for you.

[@RelativeTime]

How innacurate is the one you got?

[@kellykuang2058]

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[@BoogurTWang]

Boring can be good.

[@masivatak]

It looks like a copied and sped up miyota 8215 movement.

[@RelativeTime]

I believe your right. I think most of the Chinese movements are based of miyota, with a few off eta. But there is a whole discussion about this one on watchuseek. But I don't remember what the consensus was.

[@stevenc8054]

Too bad .., a dress watch ⌚️ Should be ..NO DATE. +- 37mm ✅

[@jharris947]

$40? WOW! Must be top quality. Gonna get myself ten of them...PMSL. Looks like a bland and boring cheap $40 watch.

[@RelativeTime]

It's actually on sale for $30, or it will be for another few hours. I filmed this months ago, but it always amuses me when something goes on sale, and I see a surge in a particular video. The funny thing is, there are a couple of really big channels who did a review of this as well, right when the sale started. So I have a feeling they are going to sell a boatload just on impulse buys. To me the interesting thing is the movement, but I would rather see it in a much more interesting watch. Which they have put out a couple. I'm just trying to decide if those are interesting enough. Thanks for watching! Cheers!