Starsector - Spindle vs Massive 4 Super-Mess Fleets

This was a difficult fight that took me a few attempts haha~ I was going to show the failed attempt in this video (as it was pretty interesting) but decided against it.
If you want to see it, I will eventually edit, upload, and link it to my discord here;
discord.gg/ddQS8AN5Jv
Music Used (In Order of Appearance);
Ambitious Design; AI War OST - Pablo Vega
AI Revolution; AI War OST - Pablo Vega
Immortal; AI War OST - Pablo Vega
Imminent Annihilation; AI War OST - Pablo Vega
Whispers of Hope; AI War OST - Pablo Vega
I recommend you check out his music here!;
Pablo Vega; / pablo vega - topic
(Best I can do since I cannot find any social media of any kind for him sadly)
Mods List;
Phillip Andrada: Gas Station Manager
A New Level of Confidence
Combat Activators
Combat Chatter
Combat Misc. Utils.
Epta Consortium
HMI Supervillians
Hazard Mining Incorporated
High Tech Expansion
Iron Shell
LOST_SECTOR
Larger Zoom Out
Luna/Magic/Lazy/Graphics Libs
Progressive S-Mods
Quality Captains
Random Assortment of Things
ScalarTech Solutions
Tahlan Shipworks
(+Nexerelin/Varya's and other misc/faction mods)

[@jackdutchofficial4133]

One of the battles of all time

[@Silent_Society]

Just wanted to say that the effort you put in making these videos is deeply appreciated. As a suggestion, you could even script a small in-system map intro, of how each encounter comes to be ("captain, i got a strange reading on my sensors" or "captain's log: command asked us to..") and you'd have in your channel mini full scripted episodes of a starsector story. From an engagement and entertainment perspective i'd be interested to find out what's next, considering you've already invested the time to script 18mins of battle, i'd have to ask whats 30s-1m more as an intro to pave the way for the battle and 30s-1m as an outro to lay the foundation for the next video?

[@AstralSpace_]

@Silent_Society - Thank you for the kind words~ In terms of your suggestion that is likely something that won't happen in these types of videos - at least not **right** now that is. **HOWEVER** - I *am* in the process of creating a more playthrough style series - which would do exactly what you suggested~ So I hope that you will enjoy that when I start uploading it :) *But*, I will consider doing this for a future saves, which might happen soon in all honesty anyways, as while Spindle is fun - I prefer being able to be super aggressive which the Gown is not very good at being in light of it's lack of speed haha~

[@bugrahancakmak4390]

That was really fun, keep up the good work!

[@_Some_Random_Dude]

Seeing new guns is cool, but... There is something special about the sound of dozens of heavy maulers mauling everything.

[@User-rp2zw]

solid stuff, thanks for sharing (:

[@trueken4728]

speaking of HMI the Fishkill (capital) is one of my favorite modded ship, not only in its design but its weapon mounts as well making it viable for really aggressive gameplay in player hands despite being a carrier heavy ship like the Astral. also with some modded hullmods and Exotica upgrades (especially the Nanite Swarm) the Fishkill can pretty much solo fleets by itself while being relatively cheap to maintain and deploy (*5 d-mods +90 OP). it's also versatile in adhering to other roles in the fleet like its good in being pd-heavy, frontline tank/brawler, or a dueling ship. It's similar to the Providence (capital) in terms of adaptability for me.

[@JuliusDofarios]

The Mess is the best place for getting weapons because the alternatives are to wait a month to build them (and you need a colony for that), buy them at 200% price off arms dealers, visit every single planet to market-buy them, or explore for a solid hour for a good haul.

[@Diov514]

Also, mess are just really fun to kill, they generally remain kinda hardISH to kill, even when you have super OP stuff, they get really spammy :)

[@echoeversky]

Take your first ship, click it and guard the next ship. Click that 2nd ship and right click to guard the third. Select the 3rd and guard the 1st. Then let it ride.

[@AstralSpace_]

@echoeversky - While I appreciate you trying to give me tips, the Silken Banshee is **very** fragile. Having it guard either Gown would make it liable to go into the frontline far more often (and thus, I would have to babysit it significantly more often). That aside, Guard orders tends to never work out well for me when I want them to. I've lost many of a ship by using guard orders, only for those ships to end up on the other side of the map with no support and being surrounded by enemy ships.

[@thx10050]

What weapons load out are you using for the Gowns? I love the look of that main rapid fire energy weapon but I have no idea what it is.

[@AstralSpace_]

@thx10050 - Uhm...So here's the thing...If you had watched the final Minute of the video I show the loadouts for all 3 ships used. I even hover over most of the custom hullmods for a brief moment so you could pause and see what they do *exactly* 😅 I don't do this anymore, instead I post screenshots of ship loadouts in my discord in a special channel there. If you are asking *specifically* only about the weapons, there's only 3 L-Slot energy weapons in Sclartech's arsenal. I'm assuming you are talking about the rapid-fire weapon that shoots those blueish balls - I think those are called Seam Ion Pulsars? Disruptors? I can't quite remember the name. But Scalartech only has 3 L-Slot Energy weapons in their Arsenal and it's *probably* not the Stitch Beamlance or the Ruffle Beam Repeater you are talking about so there's only 1 other option.

[@hidefreek6905]

I think you can install S-mods in the Gown Wings modules. (Install Solar Shielding and Apex design armor to allow more resistance to enemy damage)

[@AstralSpace_]

@hidefreek6905 - Yeah you can~ but the main body of this Gown is already a monster with how many S-Mods it has. If I added S-Mods to the wings it would probably be overkill at that point haha~. I don't think I could anyways unless I grinded ship XP for a loooooong time. Think I would need well over 1 mill ship XP or more to get another S-Mod on *one* of the modules, and then probably double that for 1 more on the other module. I might be wrong but I don't think Progress S-Mods behaves too much differently with multi-module ships.

[@hidefreek6905]

@@AstralSpace_ I think the wings modules have the same S-mod slot as the base module. And if you use progress S-mods to unlock the maximum threshold, The wings modules also get these benefits as well. (But still needs xp to install the mod)

[@twls153]

Wait.... These ships are that big? Took me some time to realized the Remnant "cruisers" were actually Radiants.

[@AstralSpace_]

@twls153 - Indeed so~ Gowns are Super-capitals for a reason :) (Not as big as good ol' Solvernia though haha~)

[@epcfal]

What is this 3rd ship? Totaly looks like a banshee painted in white/red, same hardpoints layout too. Is this a part of the scalar tech?

[@AstralSpace_]

@epcfal - It is the Silken Banshee from the Howling Banshee bounty, it is indeed a ship added by ScarlarTech (As mentioned, it's a Bar Bounty mission) if you beat the bounty, you should be able to salvage it for your own fleet. I am unsure what the prereqs. it has for unlocking - but the fleet it comes with isn't super difficult so I wouldn't imagine it to be super high requirements in terms of FP and Level. Hopefully that helps :)

[@epcfal]

@@AstralSpace_ Nice. Are there any more neutrino ships? Oh and does it have it's signature armor?

[@AstralSpace_]

@@epcfal - I'm not really super sure what you mean 😅. It's been a super long time since I did this video and since I last played with/looked at ScarlarTech ships in general so I really don't remember much ;-; Sorry I can't really answer your question 🫠

[@Zygorg]

What mod adds the chat on the top left that says stuff about the bulkheads?

[@AstralSpace_]

@Zygorg - If you are talking about the white text named "Silver Prevailing" or "Teal Ancient" Those are Epta AI Cores, which I believe "talk" via Combat Chatter Mod. If you aren't then it's just Combat Chatter that does that on it's own.

[@Pieguy223]

OP mod ships go brr

[@louisgaston2591]

*Notices you have a Epta Consortium hullmod installed...* You did download Epta! They got some good ships and weapons don't they? After all this time of saying give it a download you came around to the idea, thanks, hopefully more people give it a try, they even have a Zaku Gundam that gets stupidly OP with S-mods and Exotics that so far I've soloed most everything but next up is to try a mess swarm like you had. Speaking of the mess, technically they've been nerfed pretty hard as those little fighters all the ships break up into... Used to be equipped with hull beam lasers that having no shields was a death sentence, now not so much. Still a big threat if you walk in unprepared and seemingly no way to get more DP as battles against them have no strategic points to grab. Noticed you don't have any Pure/Corrupted or enhanced Exotics, are they that rare to get? Depending on the modifier they can help a bunch on certain Exotics... A Pure Equalizer Core gives any weapon with 550 or less a range bonus of 550 but if a weapon has over 800 range every 100 units over gets cut down by 50 but a BONUS of 25% damage, which normally would by just 10%... Still looking for what shenanigans you can build with all the exotics... Thanks for the new and improved format you fight with... Also just saw you have LOST_SECTOR, is that the recent one with the new bosses added in? Has some dangerous new [REDACTED] to face aswell.

[@AstralSpace_]

@louisgaston2591 - I did tell you to look closely at the previous Spindle video, as if you looked at the kill feed you could see the Epta A.I Talking 😆Couldn't really hide that haha~ But yeah, I noticed a very distinct lack of "Oh no, I overloaded" moments that used to happened where overloading against Mess typically meant death because of the death beams they had. But hey...I'm not gonna complain, it made the fight more do-able because if my 2nd Gown had died at any point other than the very end (last 4ish minutes I'd wager) I would've had a very bad time. The only reason I had not taken any real damage myself was because the 2nd gown was there to tank and pull aggo so I could pull back to vent. So needless to say, if it had died early or mid-way through the fight - it would've been a much different video haha~ Though like I point out in the description, I do plan on editing and posting my failed run with just 2 Gowns - though I think it might've been against a slightly weaker Super-Mess fleet (I believe 3 fleets, with 2 Radiants). It was an interesting run, but it's 12 minutes long and this video was already pushing 20m. Not to mention I feel like most people will click off after the main fight is over. So now it will just be a little bonus for my discord server members 😅 But in terms of Pure/Corrupted/Guerilla Exotic Chips, I just haven't been very lucky. Sometimes at the start of the game I'll look at the Exotica Market and they'll be selling a Pure or Guerilla chip, but those things are expensive - especially early game as iirc they cost 250k. for just a basic Exotic chip, I believe the variants can be up-to 500k if I'm not mistaken? It has been a long time since I last saw one in the market so I could be wrong. But do not worry, I am well aware of how much better a Pure or Guerilla chip is compared to a basic variant~ It's just that I haven't gotten one that would actually be useful for the Gown. Iirc I believe I have a few Corrupted/Pure Exotic chips for phasefield drive, and some other less-than-useful exotics. If you are talking about the new format for scripting dialogue, than I do appreciate your kind words~ I was dying inside a little while scripting it ;-; but if people enjoy it, then I suppose I don't mind it too much~ As for LOST_SECTOR, I've had this mod the entire time I've made videos, if I'm not mistaken if you go back all the to my 1st Legios Infernalis video I believe it might be in the description under my mods list. I'm not sure it adds any bosses, but it does add the Enigma Fleets, there might be *a* special fleet that has a special Enigma ship in it though but I don't *quite* remember haha~ It's been a while since I really interacted with the mod aside from the occasional time an Enigma Fleet decides it wants to throw itself against my fleet in hyperspace haha~

[@overdramaticpan]

Wait, is this HMI? I recall Mess just using a fuckton of Hammer Barrages on a Colossus.

[@AstralSpace_]

@overdramaticpan - Yes, Mess are from HMI - but these ones in particular are in a special unmarked warning beacon system to the far north west of the sector. They tend to use mainly infected Remanent ships over the typical ships you see in normal mess fleets. However, as you may notice - they don't have the same systems as normal drone ships (like the fact that the Mess-Infected Radiants have Burn-Drives instead of the phase skimmers or w/e they are called). They are quite a bit more deadly than normal mess fleets, well if you don't have really strong ships - that is. Shoot actually, even with really strong ships you can't really turn your brain off during the fight otherwise you get swarmed and die haha~ I forget what the system was called, and I don't know if the name is always the same (probably is), but it shouldn't be too hard to find if you look around where I pointed. It'll be pretty obvious when you find it, as I mentioned before it has no danger level assigned to it.

[@overdramaticpan]

@@AstralSpace_ alright! Thanks.

[@cemoguz2786]

It is pissing metal.

[@AstralSpace_]

@cemoguz2786 - I don't understand what this means. But I agree.

[@TheRastil]

Typical modded gameplay

[@AstralSpace_]

@TheRastil - Completely and totally balanced - as all mods should be :)