Bigsky vs Valhalla Shimmer: Getting Similar Results

[@theredfaceofficial]

Both have their places. Sonically I still prefer the Big Sky! But the Shimmer is the best 50 bucks you could spend - no brainer

[@StevenClements]

define Sonically

[@theredfaceofficial]

@@StevenClements Nothing to define! You either hear it or you don’t. Simple.

[@yakshrajsingh8121]

Yeah but spending extra 500 is dumb.

[@theredfaceofficial]

@@yakshrajsingh8121 Wrong. Not dumb if you need a high quality real time effect. Plus the pedal still sounds lusher so it’s all good 👍🏼

[@benjaminbrodie9801]

Spot on, mate. Digging the Valhalla Shimmer. One of the finest plugins at its price range. Big Sky is Big $$$. As soon as I quit my job as a Walmart greeter, I plan on saving up for some new gear including that pedal. Our band is planning to tour Zambia next year and that Big Sky should do the job.

[@lordha-ha4242]

Ha ha. You're hilarious

[@LoVeAmBiEnT]

Check out the GFI spectral reverb v3. Half the price and sounds equally as good as the big sky. Neunaber Immerse also

[@Cyril0C]

@@LoVeAmBiEnT Thank you so much for the advice ! I was about to order a BlueSky for my eurorack and my card literally declined. That's why I was here and now I really hear some depth with the 'specular' reverb

[@kostyakonstantinoff]

Why Zambia? What about Madagascar, Somalia, Sudan, Ethiopian??

[@ConwayBob]

Thanks, Starsky. I love the sound of both effects. But that long, long decay tail you can get with the Shimmer just blows me away. Amazing for the price.

[@Gogies777]

For those who are performing artists or just into outboard stuff,Bigsky is a good could really be asset,mobile and ease of use but,for those who are into music production and and into sound designing and not willing to pay 80% more then Valhalla shimmer is the way to go.Valhalla also has couple more great sounding plug ins for free so might as well it it out first before paying for the shimmer.

[@TranceElevation]

Feel sad for people claiming there is a "slight" difference. Bigsky's tail is consistent and present giving a clear and defined image of a space.

[@Art-zs6sl]

It was the same in essence, that's it.

[@lukather1]

Cork sniffing - no difference in a mix

[@lukather1]

One is £50 the other is £600 !!! What the fuck !!!

[@narekmusic]

@@lukather1 you get what you pay for🙂

[@MrVinylistic]

The difference is huge. Big Sky has more depth and 3D feeling. For shimmer effects Valhalla does a great job. But the Big Sky has the better reverb sound. But if you combine Valhalla Shimmer with Valhalla Room you may come closer to the Big Sky sound.

[@FZ779]

Exactly, I've already done that, its sound amazing,however,you need a better AMP/Stereo speaker to get a good and clean sound in it otherwise you gonna hear a lot of disturbing shimmery

[@helisoma]

yes i have the Valhalla shimmer, room and delay and use them in combination and the key is to dial down the settings in room and it's much more natural...i might get the Blue Sky plugin though 😇

[@synriser6742]

Nice comparison. Been using the Valhalla for a while now. Good value for the money. No brainer if you want a great sounding reverb. Think the Strymon is great for playing live or dawless at home. For that I use the Digitech Polara because I am on a tight budget.

[@jacobsmith1877]

Oh wow the Big Sky sounds way better on that first one.

[@vintagesynths]

Such a great and helpful video again. Thanks a lot! The big sky sounds way better, but the valhalla is fantastic for that price.

[@metaspherz]

I have been very happy with Source Audio's Ventris dual reverbs for several years and I can't tell the difference between its shimmer and either of the other hardware or plug-ins! But, making music and videos is just a hobby for me. IMO, $50 is way too much for a single reverb plug-in. And it's $200 if you want to buy 4 different reverbs? For $200 you can buy Strymon BigSky Reverb Plug-in and get a total of 12 reverbs with many more options too! If Valhalla wants to remain competitive they must reduce their prices by half! Besides, there are many free versions of shimmers available that once in the mix they blend in just as well for the average listener...for free!

[@thedailyremedy968]

Dam, that Blue Sky reverb has such clarity, beauty and depth. It has the juice that makes for a difference for me in this demo! Way too much for my budget though! Will have to settle for a Digitech Polara pedal and a couple of Valhalla plugins. Still very doable options to create some magic. What I really want is an Empress reverb-goose bumps all the way for me when I hear what it does 🙂

[@joejohnson8966]

And now they released a plugin version

[@StevenClements]

@@joejohnson8966 🤣

[@joejohnson8966]

@@StevenClements My man

[@ZZKJ396]

The Bigsky is great but no way is $450 better IMHO.

[@DuquesneXavier]

it might be the only pedal you need but i feel you about the price. I wish the Nightsky changed that and that it would drop, but I guess Strymon will not lower any of their prices any soon. This Valhalla seems to be a great alternative until I find someone rich that got bored with it and sells it for half price hahaha ^^ the plugin will be interesting to know if I "need" to get one

[@CaptainProton1]

Having gone from an Eventide H8000FW to Eclipse ( meh!) the difference in the blackhole preset was huge. Actually going from 44khz to 96khz on the H8000FW on that preset was a big improvement. Sold the hardware and bought the hardware blackhole from Eventide and was so disappointed, same with the plugin version. Bigsky here sounds good, better than Valhalla.... sure the price difference is huge but it's that last 20% that costs 80% and always will sadly....unless....Behringer synths he he :)

[@motherbrain2000]

For 50 bucks you can get NI's Replika XT whose shimmer is very similar AND BONUS: you get all sorts of delays (tape, BBD, etc) AND it can swing the delay line (which I've never seen in another delay plugin)

[@ledooni]

I love how the room is perfect while the pitch stays 100% accurate on the BigSky. I wish they made a plugin out of it even if it‘s $200-300.

[@ViciousButter]

They do for $199 😮

[@bedtimeread]

Followed up your test using Valhalla Room.. got almost identical big sky sound even better than shimmer with some feut exceptions, thank you for the vid :)

[@christopherthomasrichardso9014]

Why doesn't strymon just make plugins too?

[@SarahEHowson]

Check out XenoVerb plugin, it's pretty much BigSky

[@dash3dot]

Because plugins are for zoomers.

[@SarahEHowson]

@@dash3dot Zoomers are using old four-tracks and tape mate

[@lizardking10123]

Sarah E Howson but yet you want an old sound best to use pedals to warmer sound in the mix

[@PrinceWesterburg]

What for? They know what you REALLY want is to save up £500 for a pedal that has a thin aluminium case and someone will spill beer on or nicks from your next gig. Viva la lockdown!

[@GNeuman]

As you would expect, the Valhalla demo sounds superb but to my ears the different pitch modes on the Valhalla make this more versatile in shimmer than the Blue Sky. Am I missing something?

[@spawn302]

Its just algorithm preference. To my ears i much prefer the bigsky but thats me personally. I feel the bigsky is easier to use personally

[@theaudioeng]

…. Or wait 3 yrs until Strymon release the Big Sky plug in !!! 😝👍🍻

[@downpatmusic]

Helpful review. Seems like most agree the Big Sky sounds better especially noticeable in the first couple of basic reverb comparisons. The Big Sky is denser, richer, more baked in, and more transparent I suppose. The plug in in those examples has a metallic wobble and thinner reverb. It seems the plug in shines, no pun intended, as you start to compare the extra effects added in. I'd keep your Big Sky around so you can insert that when you want its sound, and use the plug in when you want the effects added in, which are comparable and useable. Plus if used traditionally in a aux send/receive set up on say an old classic analog console, you can have access to the Big Sky lush reverb on all of your inputs as needed. Sold me on the Big Sky in this comparison. Thanks!

[@fincorrigan7139]

9:40 Nice one - that was me when I used to be a drinker! Big Sky is €495 in my part of the world - for that cash you can throw in a Behringer Oddy with the Valhalla and ramp up the phaser on it's internal effects for free :). I have been seriously tempted by the Big Sky many times or the Ventris but the only one I stil hanker after is the GFI Specular Tempus - more to do with the quality and quantity of both delay and reverb algorithms on that unit (and it's priced more competitively too) but always seems to be sold out - I guess that's for a reason.

[@fincorrigan7139]

PS: You also get two very smart extra delay and space modulation plug-ins for free as additional downloads which is a very nice touch from Valhalla too.

[@NinoCotonato]

I agree before hear because i use Valhalla already and is a monster plug... But Big Sky is hardware and can do 96/24 without kill the pc or without the pc instead...

[@TheUshamaster]

Why suddenly a ghost appear in the middle

[@sideast]

Big Sky's Tails retains a controlled 3d image of the sound, Valhalla is great but Bigsky is on another level

[@StarskyCarr]

interesting. I find the Valhalla great in the mix, but listening individually the Bigsky is much smoother. Much better for minimal tracks.

[@phranquepeasant5688]

@@StarskyCarr I agree. To me it's as if Valhalla adds a lot of overtones somehow. Could be great for some music, but I am glad with my Strymon. When it comes to long tails of Shimmer reverb, I need to buy Valhalla as well I guess, because I'm a simple 'preset' guy and I don't want to mess around with freezes and so on. It must be quite hands on and may not require any menu diving or I won't use it anyway.

[@lukather1]

Strymon overpriced ! Had the pedal moved to Fm3

[@helisoma]

time to check the recent Big Sky plug-in against Valhalla! 🤗

[@Sonikbytes]

Depending on what type of music you are doing and what is your monitoring setup. Wouldn't matter for your typical music. In this demo Valhalla sounds more muffled (perhaps the frequency roll off setting wasn't spot on) Big Sky sounds silky smooth , clear and retains better 3d spatial depth illusion. It probably sounds even better without YT compression.

[@Patrick-857]

I have both, and you can't compare them. They are completely different and both amazing. I personally don't like the Strymon shimmer algorithm mainly because it doesn't have enough decay time, I prefer Cloud or Bloom for what I do. Valhalla Shimmer is absolutely bonkers, and I can get lost in that sound. I like to use both on the same track.

[@Sonikbytes]

@@Patrick-857 I wish somebody cloned that Cloud algorithm already

[@Patrick-857]

@@Sonikbytes Unlikely, as it's on proprietary hardware. It would be extremely difficult to reverse engineer. I would be all for it though lol. But yeah, Valhalla Shimmer is an epic plugin for a very low price. I love it just as much as Strymons Cloud algorithm.

[@geertmaertens7372]

Very good review. Tx. I was wondering too whether I needed Valhalla in addition to my Strymon series of pedals. An maybe.. still lots of interesting Valhalla plugins. But you definitely helped me discover the Nixie app which no one from Strymon told me. I was looking for plugin versions of the pedals and didn't come across them. Nixie is already a bit of a step in that direction...

[@Patrick-857]

At the price point, anyone into big ambiance, especially anyone who already can afford a Bigsky has no excuse for not owning a copy of Valhalla Shimmer. It sounds amazing and costs next to nothing. I could get lost in it forever, it makes the simplest sounds into giant soundscapes.

[@tiadiad]

Great comparison video! You should also try D16’s Toraverb.

[@Riktenstein]

I bought the Eventide Space over the Big Sky. Then I finally bought the Big Sky. For me the Big Sky is a better pedal.

[@repasiv]

I got the black hole plugin for 29$ and I've got the big sky as well. Both are crazy good.

[@georginikolov1141]

The big.sky is more realistic while space h9 are more crazy

[@skormm-v7z]

I see that the Space produces darker sounds in general whereas Big Sky stays on the bright side. I am thinking to get the Empress instead because I already have all the Valhala Plugins which are similar to BigSky and Space presets. The Empress feels warm/organic and realistic with character

[@DanielPestanaTranslations]

Thank you so much for this! Awesome video!

[@post-man23]

Both sounded great. I’m wondering if Big Sky can do something like Valhalla VintageVerb does as well. I have owned several reverb pedals in the past but not the Big Sky. Those pedals can’t even come close to the gain level of VintageVerb when I want a huge sounding reverb to play ambient stuff.

[@MusicZeroOne]

​ @Starsky Carr Did you end up keeping it or not? Awesome video btw thanks.

[@earlsfield]

I love Shimmer and use Valhalla plugs, but I think Strymon DSP is cleaner and Valhalla has some weird swelling that just sounds a bit nasty - you can eq it though.

[@StarskyCarr]

There's something special about the Big Sky. I bought it out of curiosity, so much hype... and now I know why :)

[@earlsfield]

@@StarskyCarr Me too, I got the smaller one, and loving it from the moment i plugged it in. There is something really nice in that DSP, dunno, makes everything large without creating a mud, which you would usually have to eq... spring and plate - i dont think it is too close to actual string and plate, but emulation is beautiful, so i dont mind. Thing is, in this case hype is perfectly justified. BTW, there is a plugin that I would suggest you guys check out, Phoenix Verb, by Exponential Audio. Has similar clearness to it, and has something I find Blue Sky does well too - when set with longer reverb time, becoming almost like a harmoniser.

[@sunnyschramm9650]

Its always the same: A good pedal takes the original sound in his warm arms and build a beautiful new sound with it. The plugin feels like something is just added - it still sounds like two separate sounds playing at the same time.

[@gabrielegelfofx]

and now let's listen to the new Bigsky vst plugins...

[@davjod]

Valhalla Shimmer = Poor man’s Strymon Big Sky! Great video as usual!

[@johnsymcox224]

Close - but no cigar .... The big sky is one of those pieces of kit you will never sell .... same with the timeline tbf .... great vid tho 👏🏻👏🏻

[@PrinceWesterburg]

Thank you - I've had a BigSky for around five years and its been powered up about twice as it sound truly cold and horrible with guitar. Never thought to use it with synths and didn't know there was control software for it now!

[@Mendelian]

They can sound shimmilair.

[@StarskyCarr]

Oooh 🤦‍♂️ wish I’d though of that. Could’ve said it in a Sean Connery voice!

[@Phillyfast]

For a small budget home studio musician like myself, spending almost $500 on a reverb pedal isn't feasible, as great sounding and widely used as the Big Sky is. To be honest I don't have one synthesizer that I paid $500 for. I'd love to have bigger synthesizers with more capabilities the same as I'd love to have something like Big Sky but budget is a factor for me and THANK GOD we live in an era where you don't have to shell out thousands of dollars to get into synths or electronic music. If it weren't for manufacturers putting out amazing products for the budget conscious musicians, a lot of people like me would either be using crap or nothing at all. All that being said, as great as Big Sky sounds, Valhalla sounds great as well, and between it costing $50 and there being several other free offerings from Valhalla, I think I might give them a try.

[@StarskyCarr]

Valhalla are definitely worth checking out. Lovely reverbs and decent prices.

[@mrconcept]

Do like Shimmer. Have you tried any of the Big Sky impulse Responses floating around online?

[@mantra3000]

I don't understand... it looks like a Big Sky plugin... is there one?

[@StarskyCarr]

No this is just the control software.

[@BobIGomez]

the Big Sky sounded so remarkable, like 6 yrs ago already!...now it seems to be a bit outdated.

[@terrymacklin5935]

Thanks for the review. I am looking to getting the Big Sky and I also use the H9 Max. I wonder if you could demo the control interface for both of them, when you next do your sided by side comparison, as I would like to use them both as external effects with Cubase 10. I will be using a mixer with enough ins and outs which is also my audio interface. Does the Big Sky control sit as a VST in DAW?

[@StarskyCarr]

I’ll see what I can do.. the BigSky control app isn’t a plugin - it’s standalone - but you can use MIDI CC to automate control via a DAW. I’ve not tried it with an H9, but It must be possible as it’s co trolled via MIDI.

[@terrymacklin5935]

@@StarskyCarr yes I have been using the GUI for the H9 on my laptop while using Cubase on a desktop (due to transformer loop buzz). I am yet to apply a midi controller (Navation SL zero) to the H9. It all seems possible. Have you had the transformer problem when usb is into your PC or Mac?

[@StarskyCarr]

@@terrymacklin5935 No, not had any issues with the USB (although I have with Roland Boutiques and MS20mini). I control it via my access virus... Makes a huge difference to the interface, and really easy to set up. Definitely recommended :)

[@terrymacklin5935]

@@StarskyCarr I've got on access virus ti, so you control your H9 via the virus?

[@StarskyCarr]

@@terrymacklin5935 yes, I've set up a few remote control templates for various bits and bobs... really simply to do if you follow the instructions on how to write the MIDI cc into the remote templates (sounds complicated but is actually super simple). I use it to control my Moogerfoogers, Juno 2 and Eventide Eclipse. Its really handy. You could even use one of the preset templates to control the H9 - go to remote control in virus control then put the H9 app into MIDI program mode and twist the knobs on the virus.. just like a plugin. Dead easy and well worth it. You then have an H9 you can interact with like its a ModFactor/TimeFactor/PitchFactor/Space etc... maybe I'll do a video :)

[@georginikolov1141]

H9 its known btw to sounds muddy as the way it sounds dampening the highs

[@karoliinasalminen]

Strymon sounds much better, it has unique character. However, the Valhalla does not sound entirely bad, could be usable plugin.

[@ВладимирСухих-и3ю]

Where i can download Blue Sky vst?

[@StarskyCarr]

It’s not a VST it’s the control software for the hardware unit.

[@christophertodman8254]

Did you put it up against your H9? Great vids btw.

[@StarskyCarr]

Thanks... yes I did Strymon BigSKy vs Eventide H9 Space Reverb kzbin.info/www/bejne/j3LbaYt7aa-FqpY

[@georgegeorgio1751]

This is so dependent on what's going on in a mix if you had the same oct frequencies as that regen pitch you wouldn't notice it as much, going back to the comparison I think it would also be down to the mix they're not a world away from one another forget this 3d stuff once it gets converted to a standard mix and people here it on a radio or phone etc it won't make much sense in paying a whole lot more.

[@dieterkalt4281]

love your video, val. dsp rocks

[@oliveris95]

Can you get anywhere similar with Valhalla Vintage or Valhalla Room?

[@StarskyCarr]

Not for a shimmer effect. It has a pitch shifting algorithm the others don’t have.

[@redirishmanxlt]

On the tracks with Shimmer, are you using any other plugins?

[@StarskyCarr]

No, just the shimmer

[@redirishmanxlt]

Wow, that's amazing! Thanks for making this video!

[@niteboatermusic]

so the BigSky Shimmer is available as a vst plugin? IF so, does anyone have a link?

[@StarskyCarr]

Unfortunately not this is controller software and librarian

[@gianaccetta8571]

Hi where did you purchase the BigSky VST?

[@StarskyCarr]

It’s a MIDi control and library app from Strymon.

[@maccagrabme]

Do you use the Valhalla in real time or post processing? Just wondering whether you can get the effect in real time without lag.

[@StarskyCarr]

I never use plugins in real time (except UAD) as there’s always some lag. The longer you’re editing and working on a track the worse it seems to get! Hence I’ve a few hardware units so I can jam with FX - sometimes the interaction of modulation Fx live that gives the inspiration.. something that doesn’t happen so easily with mouse clicking.

[@mcshafty1]

@@StarskyCarr I usually use plugins post too - my computers a bit on the old side. For jamming I use an ART valve pre, an old Lexicon MPX550 and DBX160X.

[@HugoDaSilva7]

thanks , great video

[@lukather1]

How have you worked out the calcs for comp ? Ta

[@StarskyCarr]

Sorry I’m, not sure what you mean. All parameters have been matched by ear and monitoring levels etc.

[@lukather1]

@@StarskyCarr 😜 just thought you where using some cakes to get exact matching parameters! ☮️

[@011177]

They are both great

[@davidtorreskeys]

Valhalla 100% BigSky is just a brand giving status to those who acquire the product, Valhalla is the real thing. Obviously everyone wants people to value them, that’s why blindly gives more value to the brand they have…instead of the quality Valhalla (I this case) provides.

[@denoiser]

Eventide stands for shimmer. Somehow i think H9 is better. Or... is it? :)

[@StarskyCarr]

Haha we’ll see....

[@DaraM73]

Korg Odyssey?

[@StarskyCarr]

eh?? yep, used it for the little sequence

[@DaraM73]

Starsky Carr thought you would’ve kept the Bodyssey. I bought one, can’t get the rubber pitch mod buttons to depress lol

[@StarskyCarr]

Dara M ah. If you watch to the end of the korg vs bodyssey you’ll see I kept the korg (it fitted in the space! That few cm made all the difference. Plus I think it’s got more charm... whatever that means ??)

[@DaraM73]

Starsky Carr charm & cm is what’s its all about. 😜

[@alephgates7519]

Shimmer has more dissonance on the tail where the harmonics start getting rough

[@tonystephen6312]

is the blue sky an hardware? anyway the valhalla sounds nicer to me.

[@StarskyCarr]

Yes, the Strymon is hardware (what you see is just an editor/librarian), Valhalla is software only.

[@tonystephen6312]

@@StarskyCarr ok - yeh i have valhalla. i thought the hardware would sound better..hmm

[@StarskyCarr]

Haha... that’s what I’m here for ;)

[@-Earthless]

both awesome

[@indonesiazrecords2761]

cool video

[@fjfrancois]

Ventris dual reverb 😊

[@geertmaertens7372]

And hello to Vladimir of course :)

[@poulwinther]

I do appreciate this, really, but for next time; it would be so much nicer if you only talked before each comparison and NOT in between the samples.

[@StarskyCarr]

I'll see if I can control myself ;)

[@jpdenk]

The Valhalla can sound way better than in your video, needs to be tweaked better.

[@AlainHubert]

People who can't tell the difference between these two don't deserve, uh sorry, don't need a BigSky. lol

[@Screaming-Trees]

Just out of curiosity what do you monitor through mate? (DA and speakers?)

[@AlainHubert]

@@Screaming-Trees High quality DA (192 kHz 24 bit floating) and high quality headphones. Why ?

[@Screaming-Trees]

@@AlainHubert Which DA? I agree with your sentiment by the way. BigSky does sound better. I wonder if it's in the settings however or if it's the algorithm. The reason I ask about the DA and monitors is that most people monitor on shit. Prosumer grade DA and middle of the road monitors. In my experience most people have poor monitoring conditions. Moreover there is a barrier in pro audio monitoring and unfortunately it's not good news for most. If you want truly high quality, full range monitors you're looking at 10 grand USD. There is no way around that really. The only brand I can think of that comes close at about 5k is Neumann (basically a combination of KH120A and 2x KH805 subs; those Neumann subs are phenomenal by the way.). Everything else is about 10k (Barefoots, PSI, Geithain, ATC etc all 10k and above). Then there's the DA. It's all shit pretty much except things like Crane Song or Prism or Mytek or Lavry and a few others. For monitoring I mean. Problem is the aforementioned are really expensive. Most people don't want to spend 15k for Geithain 901k and another 3k for two channels of Crane Song DA. But there is a huge difference in monitoring quality between the 10k price point and everything else. Regarding the reverbs on hand the BigSky is clearly a nicer sounding tail. Insofar as software reverbs go perhaps Shimmer is outdone by Eventide (Blackhole comes to mind but so does their Mangleverb and H3000) as well as Exponential Audio R4. The R4 rivals a Bricasti but it's not cheap. Shimmer is a good value for money product though and I wonder, as I say, how much of the comparison today is in the settings rather than the algorithm.

[@edmc2]

🍻

[@RogerBrenon]

Get rid of it. The hype way overpriced it anyway. Then get Eventide Black Hole and be happy forever. :) Edit: By the way, the Bricasti models in the Slate Digital Verbsuite Classics are waaayyyy over the top of the best.

[@StarskyCarr]

Aargh.. don’t tell me there’s another one to try!! Can’t justify the monthly subs for Slate I’ve got too much covered elsewhere. Thanks ;)

[@RogerBrenon]

@@StarskyCarr Yer one of the best so you deserve the best. ;)

[@StarskyCarr]

Roger Brenon haha thanks - I’ve already got the Blackhole btw. Gobsmackingly good.

[@StevenClements]

Big Sky is $200

[@joshuapinkard9737]

Not in Canada it ainsi hahaha

[@watchaddicts1213]

IMHO, this is the Battle of the DSP Masters. Certainly, wrapping a pretty metal box around the DSP generates nothing. I can’t fathom paying $500 for a metal box with a chip in it (he says as he prepares plunk down $350 for an Empress Reverb). Same goes for ALL Digital SUNTHS.I’ll pay the 200 bucks for Korg Wavestate Native, but WHY would someone pay $600 for the Hardware Box, which has no aftertouch, no poly after touch, no MPE …and with only a 3 octave keyboard, no less? Korg bets that they will. I guess if you think that Big Sky sounds way better than Shimmer, it would take nothing but the Programming teams of each company to trade job-places and then the OTHER product would sound best. It makes me feel encouraged that, bottom line, we are wagering on [the way talent of] Human Beings here, as you book it all down. We’re buying the artisans and their works of art, whether GUIs and/or Hardware Design (Grandmother) or masterfully created presets

[@quickstrike209]

Well now you can buy it for $199

[@soundaroundmusic]

OOOh! Big Sky sound is incredible! Valhalla sound so ugly..

[@klaasj7808]

valhalla sounds much better, got it for free from some website, better then spend 500 dollar for some shitpedal.

[@corypalmer5495]

Big Sky has more depth to it's sound, while Valhalla shimmer sounds pretty flat.

[@user-x969]

First and second is bad. Low price sound. Odyssey is very good.

[@thegroove2000]

No one cares when they are listening to the music.

[@thegroove2000]

Its about the MUSIC.

[@StarskyCarr]

...exactly :)

[@soltan_sound]

Valhalla sounded like shit

[@georginikolov1141]

Valhalla is overrated .Xenoverb and B2 are mind blowing