Behringer Pro-800 Manual & Review

[@StarskyCarr]

Download my V1.4.1 patch bank from starskycarr.com Sound demos here: Behringer Pro 800 Patches kzbin.info/www/bejne/hXnaYYCJZbd2d6c

[@papahuge]

Did they update the firmware so you can flick through the presets using that value knob?

[@lib747]

Fantastic job showcasing this synth. I love that Behringer are truly listening and delivering firmware upgrades on a short notice. Let's hope they continue this trend with all of their products.

[@Andronicus2007]

People think I'm working, when actually (cough) I'm doing research! Thank you lecturer StarskyCarr!

[@ConwayBob]

Brilliant! Thank you for demoing the newest firmware, Starsky. Thoman is wise to sponsor you.

[@StarskyCarr]

Thanks … let’s hope it can continue .

[@audreyazwell]

My brother, this is gonna be so stupid long but please just hear me out: *commencing over the top praise* (lol) this video just helped me SOOO friggin much!!! It's almost 7am over here and I've been pulling my hair out trying to understand a few little things with this synth, not only for some hours today/tonight but the last couple of WEEKS (since I got it basically) AND YOU JUST EXPLAINED IT ALL PERFECTLY! I'm still a bit of a novice as I've only been doing this a few years now (been watching/commenting for those years too, not sure if you'll recognize my handle/name, genuinely no worries if not friend I know you get a LOT of viewers/comments lol I digress:) and I'm embarrassed to admit I've sorta struggled to TRULY understand many of these general concepts (even with it's simplicity and a lab full of synths with a few years of studying/tinkering, I was still confused/lost). But for some reason dude, something about THIS synth combined with YOUR demonstration and the other tidbits of info I've collected over the years (a lot from you btw) I now FULLY understand not only the 800 but analog subtractive synthesis IN GENERAL! EVERYTHING STARSKY! EVERYYYTHINGGGG hahaha!!!!! ("...I Know Kung-Fu..." - The Matrix) YOU JUST MADE MY BRAIN "CRACK THE CODE", connect ALL of the dots and fill in ALL the blanks! NOW IT ALL CLICKS!!!! I could do backflips out of excitement right now!!! This demonstration is SO perfectly straight-forward/informative/intuitive it made me realize how SIMPLE it really truly is! I'm terrible at learning from manuals (ofc I read them but still I'm always left scratching my head at some points) and dude, for some reason, the way YOU explain this stuff verbally/visually ACTUALLY works for me (as opposed to just reading it)! I think I've left you a high praise comment before (don't even get me started on your comparison videos, if this weren't already ridiculously long I'd write paragraphs on just that alone!) but man this video is "IT" (YA MAGNIFICENT MF-ER!!!! lmfao)!!!! I'm SO sorry for this novel and being wildly "extra" but I NEEDED to give you that validation/respect! Like I NEED you to understand how much you just helped me my dude, I cannot express my gratitude enough! I'm sure you mostly just do this for fun but I want you to know how helpful this sort of thing is for people! You deserve WAY more than 50k subs fam, you should be one of THE BIGGEST faces of synths in general! I hope you get sponsorships from EVERYONE! Your passion/love for this realm shines in your presentations/videos and it's CRAZY infectious/inspiring! Nobody is more deserving! Thanks again man and much love from Florida (USA)! P.S. dude, do you have any merch? I'd love to buy a shirt or mug or SOMETHIN'! I dunno I just need some Starsky Carr swag in muh life/studio now lol also just to add as a side note: your jams are way dope dude js, straight BANGERS every single time! aight I'm gonna piss off now and make some music! So sorry again lmao - Audrey Azwell

[@StarskyCarr]

What a lovely comment! Shows what we can all do when we help each other. This is EXACTLY what I do this for so it’s fantastic to see I can fill in the gaps and help with anyone’s understanding. Pinned because it deserves it!

[@audreyazwell]

​@@StarskyCarr I'm utterly honored and humbled Starsky, thank you again for everything you do! 🙌🖤

[@ayewhaddupdoe]

My ADHD and that manual just do NOT mesh well. This video was a godsend.

[@dougie6897]

Have you seen the Daniel Fisher sweet water review of the Pro 800 ( February 2024) 2x Pro 800 one panned left- one panned right…..it’s absolutely glorious…no reverb no chorus….no FX ..It’s just sublime and breathtaking as it is .

[@StarskyCarr]

I did something similar with my prophet 5 and the Softube version. It’s a great trick. Works well with different synths as well.

[@dougie6897]

@@StarskyCarr yes it makes you think… 2 cheaper synths when combined sound richer and more impressive than one really expensive synth.

[@G.GordonMidi]

Yeah but what about TWO expensive synths!? 🤑

[@Claude_van]

Or just double tracking.

[@dougie6897]

@@Claude_van double tracking in realtime plus realtime tweaking 👍

[@TeddyBaas]

Thank you so much for making this video! I think I can speak for everyone and say we all appreciate what you do so very much

[@StarskyCarr]

thanks dude... thats nice to hear.

[@pcuimac]

Now it really sounds fantastic. Sounds like I need one.

[@BassFunMusic]

Every new upload on your channel is like a surprise gift! Love it! 🎵❤

[@GNeuman]

Well done getting sponsored by Thomann... Ah, that Kruder and Dorfmeister DJ Kicks type track at the end....nice

[@theedxqboi]

The track at the end. Very, very good! I'll be getting mine shortly.

[@allanbc2]

Regarding the comment at 7:00 about requests for enabling flicking through presets by turning the value knob: This functionallity has now been implemented with the release of firmware upgrade v 1.3.7.

[@michaelstewart762]

Thanks for doing this video. As someone who never RTfM I've found your overview a great help. I hope the LFO gets a midi sync feature in future updates.

[@misterbarclay505]

I just got mine in the mail and this video really helped me get me on my way. Thank you. 🙏

[@DannyKavka]

Wow…I was holding off on updating the firmware but that demonstration of the new envelope amount is hard to argue.

[@dooldriverr]

Thanks for your wonderful videos, I got my Pro-800 here in Iowa last week and the QuickStart guide is hard to follow, so this vid helps so much. Have a Great Day. Waiting on the Edge and Solina in line here in the U.S.

[@callecolliander]

Really good demo! This synth sounds awesome, I need one!!

[@AntonyStrus]

I've got my eye on this, so have watched quite a few videos about it, and you are the *only* one so far to mention the fact that it's analogue and takes a while to warm up. New-time synth buyers would probably not realise that and would think it's faulty, so nice one for mentioning it!

[@inthefade]

Very important to know. I've played shows in cold rooms and had to leave my modern analog synth at the time on for a full 30 minutes before it was stable, whereas usually it was fine in 2-3 minutes.

[@Heavy_Distortion]

Poly AT at this price is a breakthrough. It may need a better input curve but who's complaining.

[@psychowsky]

I was really surprised for how much the Pro-800 packs for that price! 👌Say what you want about Behringer, but they are the only ones who do not sell their synths in speculative prices!

[@michel5148]

but if you bought an original dave smith or sequential you would get what you pay for. i know a lot of stuff is overpriced (like roland with their one chip for all solution), and behringer just breaks easily. and forgetting the case where dave smith was sued by behringer because an employee of dave smith had a comment on behringer for ripping gear of...

[@mvsr990]

@@michel5148 "behringer just breaks easily." - Deepminds/Model Ds/etc. that have been out for years do not appear to be faring worse than other synths.

[@Magnus_Loov]

@@michel5148 "Behringer breaks easy"? That maybe would be the case some 15-20 years ago, but they have upped their quality control a lot over the years. I have not seen it being an issue with their hardware Synths at all. You would hear a lot more from users of it being a mass issue. It isn't! Just about every "classic" analog Synth manufacturer are vastly overpriced. By several times the price! A person who buys a Prophet, an Oberheim or a Moog buys into the brand, exactly like a person buys a Gucci or whatever fashion item does. They get a status item. And that is fine if you have the money! Often they are bigger and sometimes the knobs is easier to turn "fine tune" into a sound. But that is about it! But at the same time they take up much extra needed space. And the at the bigger size, Behringer easily could make a replica that still is several times cheaper and sounds the same.

[@manuelgiorgi7274]

@@michel5148 You just pay 90% for the brand Sequential and 10% for the assembly of chinese parts in the USA... like Moog.

[@michel5148]

@@Magnus_Loov no i don't want a status item. that doesn't come up in my mind even when buying an instrument... why do you think that? do you make music to be liked by others? i pulled open different synths and i can tell there is a notable difference in quality. and i like good quality pots, beside the interfacing aspect, wait till the cheaper pots get dirty and what that does to an analog synth... and there is a difference in sound it's, in the little nuances. and for the record i don't have money!, i just have patience...

[@HeathAldrich]

Just got mine in the states on Sunday, and it blows me away how good it is.

[@Kung_Fu_Jesus]

Big Up to Thomann too, great hook up Starsky

[@GerenM63]

Damn! That's /so/ "much more betterer" than it was. And, that track at the end, when the sweeps come in, is really reminiscent of something (that I can't place). Great sound, and great track.

[@lundsweden]

I promised myself no more new synths this year, but this synth is just too good! Its worth selling some stuff in order to justify buying it!

[@m.o.n.d.e.g.r.e.e.n]

same. although this breaks my other rule that is NO MENUS!

[@subconscious.com_usa6691]

They are pretty decent at least a 6 or maybe a 7 out of 10 they are not quite 8 voices of a pro 1, there seems to be a little roll of in the lower mids and a little in the bass but it sounds pretty thick and fuller sounding compared to the Deepmind so its Behringers best poly synth in my opinion. It's a no-brainer for the price but the Dreadbox Nymphes is still the best midrange Analogue poly synth soundwise which can be picked up for around the same price if you look around, the Alpha Juno 1 is also a better option as well.

[@adamkrasneski3679]

I had kinda of an opposite promise. Sell all my synths and buy new (to me) compact ones. Pro800 was buy number 1. Sh4d will probably my second and final purchase since its 2 synths in 1 (or 4 if u have a usb setup which i do not currently). Shouldve really sold the old synths 1st though 😄 and menuless wouldve been cool but i like having patches saved.

[@xntricity6446]

I'm same! And menu diving is a pain but..... This is impossible to ignore.

[@lundsweden]

@@xntricity6446 To me this isn't menu diving, because I'm comparing it to my old DX7!

[@drsamurai009]

Holy cow, it responds to poly AT as well? I was already planning on getting it (or maybe even two of them.) This is gonna sit so well with the Hydrasynth, Seaboard and Osmose 'boards!!!

[@Demoulous]

Great demo there Starsky. Love my Pro-800 and yeah the aftertouch support is well welcome when paired with my Hydrasynth. I've also only good things to say about Thoman, got my Behringer Solina from them too.

[@DanglyLingham]

Thanks for doing this. Also 100% agree on Thomann. Nothing but good experience with them personally as well. also love the demo track.

[@pepejul]

Just to say my appreciation of your work, next coffee is on me 😊

[@StarskyCarr]

Thanks very much appreciated! I’ll get a grande quad non-fat single pump no-whip mocha 😀☕️

[@ubiquitousreverser]

The price and features on this is insane! My polysynth is here. I sold my mini-XD thinking I’d get something with more poly in the future. 8 voices, patch memory, and that old school prophet vibe. Thanks for doing the coverage and behringer addressing the modulation issue. Once I get my credit cards paid off this is the synth to finish my setup.

[@LordWiggle]

Thomann is by far the best store out there. They have the best customer service and warranty, plus an insane amount of stock. I never order anywhere else. Smaller music shops are great too, but you won't have as much choice as Thomann has. The Pro-800 is one I've wanted since it was announced, especially since it is poly, but the sounds just isn't what I'm looking for. Great video, thanks!

[@gadjox]

I hope that eventually all the settings get ported to the Synthtribe app and we won't have to worry about the 80s style interface if we don't want to.

[@gr3g0r5]

There's a few vst editors out there. I bought one of them, it was 7€. It's a bit clumsy but it gets the job done much better than the buttons and it makes daw automation much easier

[@thomasaustin8477]

Was reading the description, "Sponsored by Thomas with thanks, " I didn't sponsor this video! All jokes aside, great review! Gonna pick this up as soon as possible now that most of the "quirks" are fixed.

[@StarskyCarr]

Haha

[@completelygonerecordings]

I just discovered that it's possible to switch between the presets more quickly without having to press the numbers on the program select pad. I control my PRO-800 using a cheap Yamaha PSR-240 keyboard via MIDI. When you select a preset on the PSR-240, a preset on the PRO-800 is also selected. The PSR-240 can scroll much faster through all the presets on the PRO-800 by pushing the simple left and right preset buttons provided on the PSR-240. It's likely this can be achieved with many other keyboards with similar preset functions.

[@silvertongues2]

Demo sounded gorgeous

[@johanneshuiskes310]

Nice review and explanation Starsky, i like your demo as well! Keep it up!

[@djkurtstudio]

I have the Pro-1 but I've just decided I'm going to buy this in the next couple of days! I'm not so fussed that it's polyphonic but the Unison and detune have sold it for me because it fits perfectly for a lead synth with that big Supersaw sound. I have other synths that can do this but nothing that's analogue and the Pro-1 has such a nice sound, this really excites me!

[@djkurtstudio]

Just a follow up. I love this synth. It's different to the Pro-1 but in a good way. It really does sound great and I'm so glad I bought it! Highly recommended!

[@marcpinion]

Thanks to you and thanks to Thomann for a fantastic revue. Fantastic synth.

[@malikmartin]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the demo track at the end! YES!

[@riotbell5365]

Props to Behringer for updating the firmware so quickly. Definitely listened to the consumer base.

[@racalik]

thanks for the video! it is great how they listen to feedback and fix things accordingly (f env amount issue and earlier the sloppy envelopes). i've been checking out quite a lot of videos since the release and might pick up one soon as well :)

[@StarskyCarr]

For the price it’s a no brainer… for a lot more it’s a no brainer as well!

[@racalik]

@@StarskyCarr i told myself i would wait with the decision until they fix that envelope amount. it didnt take them long :)

[@racalik]

ok I have it now and rewatching + testing out :) Is there any way to skip a step while programming the sequencer? EDIT : I have found this step jump function now, it's button 3 while recording the sequence, sorry for bothering!

[@erbro]

Let's just be open and honest about it. Thomann is the seller of musical instruments in Europe. I have spent two luxury brand cars in gear there I think. And each time I see a package from them leaning against my mailbox (most don't fit inside unfortunately) my heart skips a beat or two.

[@gr3g0r5]

Meh I do prefer a local shop. It's a shame Behringer don't sell to small shops anymore. Local music infrastructure matters and it's also much better when something breaks.

[@victoratanasov6390]

Really looking forwards to a Pro 800 vs Prophet 5/10 comparison, I believe a lot of other people are too. Would be great to see such a video done properly by none other than you. There aren’t any on the net and I wonder why. Just one I found, but it’s a basic arp sound that doesn’t do it justice. Hope video influencers are not afraid of doing it just so they don’t put Sequential down while trying to keep good relations with the company for eventual future profits. Sequential will always have their fans that buy their products just as I do.

[@tablameister]

Thanks for the review. The price and features are fantastic. I just wish that, as part of the upgrades (e.g., 8 voices instead of 6 voices) they had put in a multiline LCD display.

[@e-conrecords4665]

I’d love to see someone recreate Bowie’s ‘Ashes to Ashes’ synth parts with this.

[@essentialdang]

Been looking forward to this one! Your videos are the best mate, clear and informative. Thank you!

[@TROGULAR10000]

I'm skipping straight to all the cool musical examples I expect to hear on this nice channel. The Behringer clones surely do the trick.

[@willphaseone963]

Cant wait to get mine!!!!!

[@synthfluencer]

Great continuation of your Pro-800 series! You better not let the Pro-800 cool down after Behringer has already announced the next firmware update 😀

[@carbonvideo]

Wow, nice demo track!

[@_thevaporz]

Sweetwater shipping now July (ordered early May). Not too bad of a wait after all!

[@Rsonixtunes]

Just got mine ordered this morning! Hope u are enjoying

[@JDSoundsets]

Cool vid as always :) loving my Pro-800

[@StarskyCarr]

Ta la.

[@FindingSpeed]

Amazing review of the features - learned loads. Thinking of this as my first proper synth.

[@JonMurray]

It just sounds lovely. And you can’t afford not to buy it at that price. Behringer are killing it man. Awesome sounding synths aren’t completely bananas expensive dream gear any more. And you don’t sound like a salesman at all, Thoman are brilliant. Well done on a very well deserved sponsor mate.

[@PhrygianPhrog]

I love that filter so much.

[@aftertheendtimes]

Just wanna say that your reviews are really good, detailed, informative, and shows real usage, not only arps and blopps🤗🙏🎹💕Love cheers dear Starsky.

[@StarskyCarr]

Thank you so much 🙂

[@DavidJKellett]

What a great video! Another one! Really useful as I am just about to delve into the submenus.

[@mididump]

I just used your link to buy one of these. lovely demo.

[@nolyspe]

At 15:49: I'm pretty sure the F . X d stands for "fixed"!

[@SebastianSnoeck]

as usual well done , love the proto techno track you did at the end

[@crunchyfrog555]

I've used a fair few music retailers over the decades. In modern times some have been spotty or downright awful. Andertons were one that was dreadful for me in ordering as they'd continually lie about dates something was coming in. When I decided to try Thomann out I never went back frankly. They're now my go to for most things as they're incredibly reliable. And if something does go wrong, they fix it quickly. So I agree they're well worth supporting.

[@volt7cooltangs701]

To be fair to Anderson’s, I’ve always found them brilliant. Probably the best music shop in the UK, certainly in the London & Surrey area. On line they have always sorted me out too and they are always very helpful and always pick up the phone quickly. It’s not some call centre. Sometimes the new Behringer stuff just takes time to come into retailers.

[@crunchyfrog555]

@@volt7cooltangs701 You're completely missing the point. They are good in some respects but this is an area they're not. It has nothing to do with stuff coming in. It's about LYING. When you order stuff and they tell you it's next week it's coming in, yet you contact the manufacturer and they tell you, no it's a problem and it's not going to be for some weeks. So you ring Anderton's again and they tell you again "next week". It's either incompetence or a cynical ploy to keep the money from you and earn a small amount of interest or something, or just try to desperately keep your trade.

[@dermatrode]

Thanks for the review. I produce electronic music since 1989, back in the beginning of Behringer days they were not really known to put out quality music gear. I bought a mixer from them back in the 90ies and it was a really crappy quality one and used to have alot of noise. Later I bought a midi controller from Behringer, I think it was the first BCR2000, and thats it. I told myself, never again will I buy a Behringer product! But here I am in 2023 buying my 3rd Behringer product! 1. Because I miss my Prophet-600 / 2. because it's just alot of bang for your buck and really a no brainer.

[@elissitdesign]

Same experience. I bought a mixer in the early 2000s an it was garbage! Now I have 6 synth modules. All work great, no issues.

[@atomaalatonal]

now that was a quick one :;D what a difference

[@isaac.anthony]

my next purchase for sure, poly after touch and the osc fix, well done Behringer!

[@peterkadarmusic9728]

This is pretty impressive. You could put two of these in a Rackbrute 6u for not a lot of money and have two great polysynths for live use and still have enough space left over to add FX. The sound is good and the interface is more than manageable. If Behringer make it easy to order additional power supplies, this could be a strong choice for touring musicians that want analog tone that they can easily travel with.

[@zap7759]

Might as well use a 19" rack not some eurosmack BS 😛

[@peterkadarmusic9728]

@@zap7759 that’s a good point. You could actually get a rack adaptor. It might make more sense to spend a bit more and get something like a Rev-2 module which would also be easy to travel with and have a more robust IEC power connector compared to two DC lumps.

[@zap7759]

@@peterkadarmusic9728 Rev2 would have a much bigger engine but the 800 would have a much bigger sound so whichever you need more, I'd rather a Nord Lead than a Rev2 though. With shallow rack cases you could fit a power conditioner and 1U fx processor plus the synths in something the size of a carry-on bag. If I get one it's getting racked with my Pro-1 in a 6U shallow rack.

[@peterkadarmusic9728]

@@zap7759 That's a great point - I like the idea of adding FX. If you were to choose a case, is there one you would recommend seeing as you're already familiar with the HP of your Pro 1?

[@zap7759]

@@peterkadarmusic9728 The Gator and SKB pop-up mixer cases come in 8U and 12U I believe. If you're the only one handling it during transport, the shallow Tuffbox cases on ebay have up to 6U for almost nothing, seems like they had taller racks at one point. Outside of getting one built or finding a used rack these will be labeled like "shallow", "short", "mixer/effects rack".

[@ogasi1798]

ayup fella, great work - massive congrats on the Thomann help and it's coming mate, you are doing the work so it's coming. Anyway, the FW anomaly you speak of is this: the encoder (as it stands right now ..... . ) remembers the last function used, so if you were in sync and you leave to main screen mode when you turn the encoder you are actually turning the sync page - hope that helps. Not really an anomaly, just a way of working - i usually leave mine in unison detune or voice spread so i know i can wonk out whenever i like - i have seen people complaining things don't work when in fact after i dig a little bit i showed them they have adjusted the menu and unwillingly continued after the fact. Could be argued it is daft but i think the opposite, i like it as it leaves a performance function open without the need for a menu.

[@StarskyCarr]

Cheers… no wonder I couldn’t figure out what the ‘rule’ was!! Never been an issue for me tbh. Knowing that you can adjust the detune/spread once you’re editing the tone is v useful though. A few comments have said they’d like a vintage knob and this a could act as a pseudo knob.

[@jurriaanbalhuizen]

Excellent video mate!

[@J-Loe]

Yer always great. I thank you!

[@StarskyCarr]

Cheers

[@allanbc2]

Reg. comment about preset naming at 6:40: Presets in banks B, C and D can now be named using Synthtribe with the release of Synthtribe V2.6.7

[@StarskyCarr]

Cool.. I can now release my patch bank!

[@justindpeak]

Very cool and great demo!

[@videomove]

ahaaa, that makes a huge difference!

[@synthsamuraiproductions]

Sweet livin’ baby!!

[@DankePlace]

Your outro track shows what can be achieved with this, I think it's from your last vid so possibly not showcasing the newer features? Someone else did a side by side with a P5 and the results were astounding close for the patches on hand. This just cements whether you love or hate it, you cannot deny it's not great value for money considering its capabilities. Thx for the upload once again.

[@anthonyalexander7246]

Love that track at the end, synth is organic. Same as the model d., Alive.

[@breslin44]

Cool to see so many updates since it was released. Makes you wonder why more wasn’t picked up by Beta Testers though.

[@StarskyCarr]

Couldn’t agree more.

[@NickHowesAstro]

Could not agree more

[@jann_rygh]

so many synths in their Labs, I think there is a Limit when you're that under pressure as Behringer nowadays. They get so much hate, check other companies like Gibson ...terrible QC and only a few Heads saying sth ... Lets be Happy that the Behringer Units are Updateable right? I mean can you Imagine having a Chip Problem back in the 80s with your Prophet? What did you do? Call the Support and wait 2 months for a new one when you live in Germany? I know it needs Feedback but its getting ridicoulos - my WhatsApp or Bank Account App has Issues and they Update it every week....no one hating there right? just sayin' - chill tf down and be Happy you can have a 8Voice Pro Clone for under 400 fcs

[@NickHowesAstro]

@@jann_rygh I own 7 Behringer synths including this one ..no hate here ..but as the lead test engineer at Yamaha R&D for over a decade ..it galls me when stuff gets missed

[@jann_rygh]

@@NickHowesAstro ok I get it. Yamaha Networth 9 Billion and Behringer 130K - so all the QC Areas at MusicTribe should be at the same Level, should have the same Wages and all the Synths should cost a Fraction of a Yamaha Synth....let me google an actual Yamaha Synth...wait a second...mh...samplebased....modelling...AWM....wow....no Synths? So you're telling me that Yamaha QC is better just because "your" company does this since the 90s and you're comparing a "little" Company which tries to make a huge Fanbase happy with an international Company who makes also Motors, Bikes, Pianos and idk what? I grew up with a Yamaha Piano and I love Yamaha Pianos more than Steinway or Steinberg or Schimmel, but you just can't compare those 2 Companies and you do it because you worked there and that is just really pathetic in my eyes. Thank God you didn't worked at DSI or Moog, otherwise you would say that the OSCs sound too thin 🤣 But hey, jedem das seine nh?

[@KidMrRemixes]

32:36 Great review. Does the controller keyboard need to have poly aftertouch for the Pro 800 to play poly aftertouch?

[@StarskyCarr]

Yes, only poly aftertouch keyboards can send the aftertouch data per key.

[@MusicWizard85]

Behringer has been killing it the past couple years with cheaper versions of expensive gear.

[@Aetila]

It's a Moog killer synth! :-)

[@dillipphunbar7924]

Nice track. Another winner from Behringer. I'm finding excuses already...oh dear...will need more shelving or another laptop stand.

[@brunoromiti7708]

searches for behringer pro-800 *posted 28 min ago* noice

[@zap7759]

It just showed up in recommended for me lol

[@GNeuman]

Just uploaded the latest firmware today... Is it my ears but has this transformed the sound of this synth? To my ears, now sounds even thicker and beefier. Unbelievable that Behringer have been so quick off the mark with these firmware updates

[@StarskyCarr]

It’s just changed the env amount per patch which will do exactly that. Which is the reason I was disappointed originally.

[@GNeuman]

@@StarskyCarr yes, just gone back to your False Prophet video...huge difference. Very surprised they have sorted this with firmware updates... Goodness knows what's going on under the hood of these synths....😳😳😳

[@Janomix]

Apart from the digital programing and polyphony, has the Pro-800 the same sound engine as Pro-1? thank you!

[@StarskyCarr]

Pretty much. The pro- 1 is a single voice of the prophet 5 but with some added drive into the filter. The architecture in this is so similar as to be the same - but I think there are minor differences in the filter (different chip as far as I know but similar) and the drive - you can drive e a mini more as you’ve only the single voice.

[@Janomix]

@@StarskyCarr perfect, thank you so much!

[@rongerrist2741]

The Pro one has a different sound. Not just the filter, also the VCOs. Whatever knobs I turn, it sounds like Vince Clark is using it.

[@subconscious.com_usa6691]

Yes but its seems that the lower mids and the bass has been rolled off slightly in my opinion for polyphony, the oscillators are nowhere near as fat as the pro One's oscillator its definitely not fully blown 8 voices of the pro one. It would be ridiculously good if it was but its fat enough anyway so it doesn't matter that much.

[@pizzagogo6151]

Thanks Starsky, great overview (& I’m sure your previous comparison was a factor in B hurrying up & improving the firmware). Watching/ hearing this I’m going to say a stupidly obvious thing- I really can’t understand why DSI/ sequential didn’t do something like this? Ok they’d never do same price point but really don’t understand why, for decades, they stuck to their (not as good) DCO sound & didn’t go with much better sounding Prophet 5 based synths?

[@lucasdrake946]

100%

[@stoatystoat174]

21:19 demonstrated the lower limit of my speakers, they could play the low filter G but only whisper the overtones of the D# 👻 My PRO-800 should arrive tomorrow (to join my much loved Volca Keys, v excited) will try to find/create a clear paper guide to the menus an get it understood good without wearing out the wee buttons (also love seeing a bit of everyones-wins venn diagram style sponsorship)

[@StarskyCarr]

The menus are pretty simple once you e played with jt for an hour or so.. they become second nature. The GLIGLI has a pdf you can print that has scissor guidelines that fits neatly next to the numeric pad! Very handy especially if you’ve not used it for a while.

[@stoatystoat174]

@@StarskyCarr pfft, I'll show those menus what Real simple looks like 😅

[@GoldToni-z2t]

i wish, copy/paste and also save would be possible from bank to bank (and a compare would also be nice). And the second thing is the random function. If it worked from a little variations over fairly new sound to complete r2d2, it would be much more helpful.

[@StarskyCarr]

me too for the copying bank to bank.

[@Rsonixtunes]

Anyone thinking of grabbing one- just came back into stock at Sweetwater this morning on July 29th 😎 I have a solid vintage synth collection but man this thing sounds beautiful for $399!

[@AntonSchultzy]

I was thinking about getting a pro-1 for bass and leads. Can this do everything the pro 1 can and more, or are there advantages to having the pro 1 as a mono (price difference aside)?

[@Rsonixtunes]

If you use a unison mode on an analog synth like this one, you’d have some outstanding bass and leads. Depends if you need two synths in a live format.

[@kentaccordionist]

I own both and for the difference in price if you can only afford one, then the 800 is the one to go for.

[@michaelh8854]

@@kentaccordionistno disadvantages to the pro800 over pro1?

[@kentaccordionist]

@@michaelh8854 not that I can think of.

[@jamesneville441]

Great video once again. Would you say this or the Korg Minilogue XD for synthwave leads? Both seem to have that vibe for the lower price range

[@ChristineLeeMusic]

Glad Behringer is making a polyphonic analog after all the awesome monosynths they have come out with.

[@wolfboy.]

Thanks for the in-depth video, very much appreciate the info! am hoping to get one of these soon, awesome synth! How long do you find it stays in tune once tuned? I'd like to use it at a gig, just hoping it's ok for a couple of hours?

[@StarskyCarr]

I’ve not had any issues with tuning, and would expect it to be fine. As with any VCO synth though changes in atmosphere in a hot damp club could be a problem, but I’ve not heard of anyone reporting anything

[@dougietamson]

Ordered one for total of £236.50 yesterday, delivering later today. Was nearly tempted to buy 2 for a fat stereo monster.

[@StarskyCarr]

At that price it’d still be a steal

[@dougietamson]

@@StarskyCarr I'll make do with just the one and pair it with my £20 Strymon Flint mod/reverb aliexpress clone for now...

[@MexxPowers]

Great video, too bad it is not in stock on mainland Europe. I want one!

[@Guerrilla_OP]

This thing is beyond a great deal. The only criticism I have is the old school remote style buttons. I've seen more than a few of that type of button covering get old, wear, and crack/detach. I get that they're trying to get the Prophet 600 look, but I have to wonder how many years of use is there. I imagine that they're not going to wear is well as the Prophets do, but I could be wrong. Either way, there's a lot here for a small investment.

[@PimpinBassie2]

Yeah, they should have gone for Synclavier style buttons.

[@fakshen1973]

I'd like to see the Oberheim Xpander style buttons... now those look nice for retro.

[@rhkavli]

Even if it looks like membrane buttons, it's actually real buttons underneath, so it should have a lot less problems with reliability than the original.

[@DannyKavka]

Unfortunately, Behringer seems to have walked that back. Now the official line is that they’re “medical grade” membrane controls. 😕.

[@rhkavli]

@@DannyKavka That's sort of a bummer. Well, I have soldering stations and I'm not afraid to use them! Medical grade membrane buttons. If there ever was an oxymoron! It's right up there with military intelligence!

[@tuc5987]

The filter amount thing seems such an obvious oversight, releasing it with that tiny max amount. They've been developing this for years and only NOW they notice this? Well I'm glad they changed it now.

[@StarskyCarr]

I think they left it low so you could introduce additional modulation via velocity or aftertouch, but it didn’t work for me … or anyone else as far as I can tell. Hence the easy and very welcome fix.

[@abrokenframe82]

@15:19 you demonstrate the different oscillator modes, Oct, Semi, F.hd and Free. Have you noticed the tuning change on the corresponding oscillator? with both oscillator levels up set osc A to F.hd and on mine the pitch of B will change randomly! There is nothinh in the manual that say what F.hd is, I am sure this is either a bug or faulty. Cheers

[@StarskyCarr]

f.hd means fixed... I wonder if B changing is due to movement .. like the knob is slipping for example?

[@abrokenframe82]

@@StarskyCarr Thanks for the reply. Yes I wonder if the encoder on the control panel is faulty, only showing up in this mode due to the fine control over the oscillators it can make.

[@MadelnMachines]

Sounds great. Do you notice a big difference between the sound of all the Behringer synths you have or are many more minor, subtle sonic differences, or it's more about slight differences in features?

[@StarskyCarr]

A lot of them use the same filter chip as Behringer now manufacture the CEM but then again so did the Prophet 5, Oberheim OBXa, Fairlight, PPG, pro-one etc … so there’s a fair amount of variation you can get from similar or the same parts. I don’t think they sound generic if that’s what you’re asking. .. but if I got a load of sequential stuff together you’d probably hear similarities there. So a bit of yes and no I guess! But leaning more to the no :)

[@MadelnMachines]

@@StarskyCarr Great! Do you know if the pro 800 can be used as a midi controller for vst synths? Do all the controls send midi?

[@REY-KOFF]

Спасибо за обзор! Уважение

[@decimal1815]

Guess the only remaining difference between P600 and Pro-800 is the modulation depth on polymod section, unless they fixed that too?

[@CKT1138]

Is there live sequence transposition? Like on the Pro-One?

[@trentpmcd]

Great review! Glad the firmware update fixed the envelope issue (though saw the reason for the "issue" in the video). Quick question - with your experience with Sequential products and real vintage instruments, how good does it do in giving the "vintage vibe" without a "vintage knob/mode"? Sounding awfully darn close to an original P 600 in single notes, etc. does not necessarily mean it has that character when played...

[@StarskyCarr]

There may be no vintage knob but there’s a ‘slip’ mode in the ‘voice spread’ and unison detune parameters. Overall it does give the vibe if not identical (what 2 40 year old synths are?). It’s not quite as dirty as the filter on mine at least but I see that as the difference in 2 synths. I think I mention my 2 Polysix video in one of these. Both Korg vintage units and have similar but individual characters.

[@trentpmcd]

@@StarskyCarr Thanks! Yes, you did mention that the detune can be used similar to "slop".

[@imaginingthat]

Great video, thank you for making it. Quick question: Do you know how to insert rests, ties etc with the sequencer?

[@imaginingthat]

I figured it out. It's: Press 2 for a rest in when REC SEQ pressed. For a tie hold the notes while pressing 2

[@StarskyCarr]

Thanks for that… I didn’t think it was possible.

[@jizus1000]

Thanks you sooo much !!! I'm french and it's hard to find tutorials that I can understand. Which preset did you use for the bassline in the last minute's demo ?

[@StarskyCarr]

Thanks.. all the patches on the demo are ones I created myself. There’s no way of exporting individual patches so I uploaded my 100 patches for bank B as a full sysex export to my Patreon site.

[@jizus1000]

@@StarskyCarr will check your payer on but this is motivating to create my own so ! Keep going man and Thank you again