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@TheBig6ix
@TheBig6ix Ай бұрын
START/SUB/SELL.. Haaland, Rooney, RVP 👀👇
@fredchacha3355
@fredchacha3355 Ай бұрын
RVP starts for me.. the technique and finesse on everything he does was premium.. Rooney sub and sell Haaland
@dalymufc
@dalymufc Ай бұрын
rooney,rvp, haaland useless if he's team isnt 100 percent cooking and massive stat padder.
@NoContext_FanTV
@NoContext_FanTV Ай бұрын
@@dalymufc this is hindsight lol, when the vid was recorded haaland was still considered top
@dalymufc
@dalymufc Ай бұрын
@@NoContext_FanTV Ive been saying it for long time he gets pocketed all the time in big games against top defenders he cant bully and this man city losing streak has exposed how useless he is when he's team isnt performing, he cant do anything to turn a game on he's own or help city. he is miles below the other two players who can turn a game with magic.
@Mavsince05
@Mavsince05 Ай бұрын
Depends on the team you have tbh Rooney Haaland Rvp
@Ketic12
@Ketic12 Ай бұрын
Did Tobs just casually say Drogba is not top 10 striker in pl history and no one challenge him on it..WTF did I just watch!?
@akashkop
@akashkop Ай бұрын
Berba over drogba is just crazy.you don't decide this by the amount of talent they had,you make the choice based on the impact on his team.drogba impact on chelsea was so immense .
@indafield8089
@indafield8089 Ай бұрын
It’s Arsenal fans we can’t be even shocked😂
@rehanr1765
@rehanr1765 Ай бұрын
Rory Delap had a huge impact on Stoke and Premier League with his iconic throw ins. But he isnt a goated midfielder
@ChantalSerfontein-h3s
@ChantalSerfontein-h3s Ай бұрын
​@@rehanr1765mf be serious
@OBELISK3210
@OBELISK3210 Ай бұрын
@@akashkop it’s arsenal fans. They said they’d keep martineli over mbappe. Fan base is lost.
@uniqueness-i7i
@uniqueness-i7i Ай бұрын
​@@rehanr1765what in the hells name did stoke win????
@VictorMensah-so7vu
@VictorMensah-so7vu Ай бұрын
I’m 99% sure Turkish was the one who even had the audacity to group Drogba together with guys like Berbatov and Tevez 😂😂 He’s still burning Drogba got 15 in 15 against Arsenal 🤡
@MrSanders-k8v
@MrSanders-k8v Ай бұрын
The Drogba disrespect in this video is absolutely crazy
@indafield8089
@indafield8089 Ай бұрын
Drogba bullied that club
@zainsarwat8125
@zainsarwat8125 Ай бұрын
Its good to even out the stupid unnecessary Drogba glazing
@babakabba5547
@babakabba5547 Ай бұрын
They're not disrespecting him they're stupid don't mind them
@Soheil_38
@Soheil_38 Ай бұрын
Teves at the same context as Drogba is crazy. 😂😂
@denzilsafo
@denzilsafo Ай бұрын
The first one is so so clear - Start Drogba, Sub Tevez and Sell Berbatov
@KINGKING10109
@KINGKING10109 Ай бұрын
@@denzilsafo One thing I will say, is we were truly blessed to have Soo many Amazing strikers in the last generations. None of those 3 were considered the outright “Best striker in the world” when they were playing. Yet fast forward today and There’s not a single striker in world football under the age of 30 that could light a candle to them. Haaland’s runs them close in terms of finishing, but in terms of all round play, Drogba, Tevez, Berbatov are better than every striker in the world right now under 30. The Game’s Gone!
@DS-dw3pz
@DS-dw3pz Ай бұрын
This is the thing that people try to rewrite history...Drogba was outright considered the best itw bro in 06/07...this is the thing that people forget about Drogba...in the other seasons he was still considered one of the best strikers if not the best itw... he sacrificed so much of his goals for his teammates like Lampard or what to score... The other 2 have never been that...Drogba is so clear and shouldn't even be in this discussion
@isaacmeister3179
@isaacmeister3179 Ай бұрын
Drogba is the clear start and is 150% a top 10 prem striker. Let’s keep our facts straight boys
@civildiscourse7626
@civildiscourse7626 Ай бұрын
I don’t think he’s a definite in the top10 list…he might be for some but not for others. Henry Rooney shearer are on everyone’s list
@54dbruno
@54dbruno Ай бұрын
name your top 10 strikers if he's definately top 10 lol
@joshpereira1163
@joshpereira1163 Ай бұрын
Drogba disrespect is crazy would have much better numbers if he took pens and if he played consistently in that Ancelloti style attack instead of the Jose teams, also a big reason as to why Lampard is one of the highest prem scores of all time cos of the spaces drogba would create
@mayibee_07
@mayibee_07 Ай бұрын
But man...him getting below 12 PL goals for 7 out of his 9 seasons just isnt enough to be top 10 strikers bro, imagine what Vardy would do in that team 😅when he managed better stats in Leicester 💀
@barunhazard5505
@barunhazard5505 Ай бұрын
@@mayibee_07Stats aren't everything man. Watch football with ur eyes then u will see who is better. Remove goals and assist from your brain and compare players on their consistency
@yourdadhasadogfilter2505
@yourdadhasadogfilter2505 Ай бұрын
@@mayibee_07 Vardy wouldn't work at Chelsea. They needed a physical presence in the Jose/Ancelotti/Conte years. There's a reason why Diego Costa is the only other successful striker for them
@joshpereira1163
@joshpereira1163 Ай бұрын
@@mayibee_07 which player in prem history consistently scored 15+ without pens
@sunnybhathal3429
@sunnybhathal3429 Ай бұрын
@@yourdadhasadogfilter2505 disagree I think your downplaying how physical Vardy could be in his prime. Just cause he was skinny but he was deceptively strong and the biggest shithouse going
@JayDee-rm4zz
@JayDee-rm4zz Ай бұрын
As a gooner, drogba gave me the most fear. Don’t think I’ve seen a player step up when needed every single time, the way he did. Stats weren’t the greatest but as a striker drogba was soo dangerous!!!
@SRTV2022
@SRTV2022 Ай бұрын
See how Steve waits for his turn instead of interrupting every second like Matice and Toabs. Communication skills are important in life 😂
@assadlawrence8248
@assadlawrence8248 Ай бұрын
Drogba scored in big games can't compare him with them two
@yourdadhasadogfilter2505
@yourdadhasadogfilter2505 Ай бұрын
He also had the most assists in a season on top of his two golden boots. Half of Lampard's goals are due to him
@assadlawrence8248
@assadlawrence8248 Ай бұрын
@yourdadhasadogfilter2505 thank you brother arsenal fans hate him
@mandatedebate1270
@mandatedebate1270 Ай бұрын
As an Arsenal fan & someone who had to witness Drogba destroying us several times, not to mention his clutch moments… Drogba is CLEAR of Tevez & Berba and he is a top ten prem striker.
@LPVW04
@LPVW04 Ай бұрын
Haaland, Kane, Henry, Yorke, Rooney, Van Persie, Fowler, Cole, Shearer, Aguero were all better than Drogba. He was unreal but not top 10
@mandatedebate1270
@mandatedebate1270 Ай бұрын
@ Fowler needs to come out of that list, had 3 ridiculous seasons but after that he’s more myth than legend.
@sokerez
@sokerez Ай бұрын
Lukaku and Danny welbeck destroyed us few times as well ... are they some kind of legends?
@uniqueness-i7i
@uniqueness-i7i Ай бұрын
​@@sokerezNah you can't compare Drogba with those lot that's a foul man😂😂😂
@LPVW04
@LPVW04 Ай бұрын
@@mandatedebate1270 3 ridiculous seasons? He contributed to 202 goals in 379 games
@BigSteveMcfc
@BigSteveMcfc Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas everyone 🎄🎅
@naveenj2284
@naveenj2284 Ай бұрын
you too bro!
@nish-chit
@nish-chit Ай бұрын
Merry Christmas super ⭐
@zayedwarsama2817
@zayedwarsama2817 Ай бұрын
the disrespect on gerrard and drogba is ridiculous if people actually look at prime drogba's stats then his goal scoring is undeniable, but people will intentionally ignore how many minutes and games drogba missed during his prime gerrard as much as he's meme'd for slipping, he's the guy who sacrificed major trophies because he stayed at a poor Liverpool side (post benitez) and carried them
@LocoAde
@LocoAde Ай бұрын
I agree, but I do think Tevez is a close argument over Drogba. It's a 55-45 thing really.
@zayedwarsama2817
@zayedwarsama2817 Ай бұрын
@ I just can't see it Drogba's peak, dominance over defenders, clutch moments (even past his prime), ability to improve other attackers around him just stand out for me
@LocoAde
@LocoAde Ай бұрын
@zayedwarsama2817 I could argue similar for Tevez. The one thing against Tevez is that he never lived up to his full potential IMO. He was very much in that Suarez build, style, and should have done as much as him pretty much. And while I don't care for City. His behaviour at the end of his time there is a black mark against him.
@fplrandom6232
@fplrandom6232 Ай бұрын
Turkish is mad because Drogba owned his club
@Qlicky
@Qlicky Ай бұрын
Drogba owned anyone and everyone. Nothing to do with Arsenal. I didn't like the dude one bit, but he was a mean striker. Force of nature. As an Arsenal fan, Turkish is getting on my nerves. And I didn't even watch the video.
@CharlesMgbokweyi
@CharlesMgbokweyi Ай бұрын
@@Qlicky😂😂😂
@Andrewgriff
@Andrewgriff Ай бұрын
The Drogba disrespect is crazy. He won two golden boots. In the 06/07 and 09/10 seasons. In the 09/10 season, he scored 29 goals in 32 games while missing January to play Afcon.Mind you, Lampard was on pens, so he could've stat padded even more. I don't even have to talk about his big game presence and influence. Of course, he could've scored more; I blame the low scoring seasons on injuries, but to not have him in the top 10 is diabolical
@VictorMensah-so7vu
@VictorMensah-so7vu Ай бұрын
Facts!!! And you have mugs like Tobi saying he isn’t a top10 striker
@jgunner94
@jgunner94 Ай бұрын
@VictorMensah-so7vu Have you seen the list for top 10? Henry, Rooney, Shearer, Bergkamp, Aguero, Fowler, RVP, Cole, Wright, Haaland. You can probably just sneak Drogba in so it’s not shocking.
@ethanthomas548
@ethanthomas548 Ай бұрын
@@jgunner94Bergkamp is nowhere near top 10
@jgunner94
@jgunner94 Ай бұрын
@@ethanthomas548 Drogba better than Bergkamp?
@ethanthomas548
@ethanthomas548 Ай бұрын
@@jgunner94 that’s not even a debate, Arsenal fans overrate Bergkamp crazy
@nyasha234
@nyasha234 Ай бұрын
As a Chelsea fan there's one thing i regret about my club. We never cared about individuals. I remember watching a game and our star players would just control games instead of going for more. Hazard was like that a lot.
@benjysho6290
@benjysho6290 Ай бұрын
100%
@sharingpeacee
@sharingpeacee Ай бұрын
Arsenal fan here, but Gerrard singlehandedly kept Liverpool relevant for a decade playing with guys nowhere near the level of players KDB played around him (Kompany, Fernandinho, Yaya, Silva, Gundo, Bernardo, Haaland, Rodri). Big up boys. Loved watching the video this Christmas!
@jaysmith2858
@jaysmith2858 Ай бұрын
Take any one player out of any peak Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City and Man Utd PL sides and those clubs would still have won trophies. Take Gerrard out of the Liverpool team during his time at the club and it's quite likely that Liverpool would have won absolutely nothing.
@blakegoold6943
@blakegoold6943 Ай бұрын
1 prem vs 6! Both have a champions league too🤷🏽‍♂️
@nathankerr5619
@nathankerr5619 Ай бұрын
It's easier to look good in a gymn when you are the strongest try looking good at a gymn with military men around you
@carthag3
@carthag3 Ай бұрын
Bad argument when KDB is still the best out of all those you listed. Shining among brilliant players is a far greater task than shining around dross.
@Ibraaaaaa199
@Ibraaaaaa199 Ай бұрын
@@jaysmith2858 KDB shake a hole country, ask klopp
@picklerick6707
@picklerick6707 Ай бұрын
No way Drogba disrespect. Man scored 15 goals in 15 games against arsenal. TERRORISM
@De3dSh0t
@De3dSh0t Ай бұрын
Drogba not being in the top 10 strikers is one of the absolute worst shouts I've heard here holy shit.
@guneytopal1713
@guneytopal1713 Ай бұрын
Drogba is clutch but bro he spent 9 seasons in the PL and only has two season when he got more than 12 goals. 2/9 seasons to go above 12 goals and that was 20G in 06/07 and 29G in 09/10. Great seasons but 2/9 that is not good enough
@ayanroy08
@ayanroy08 Ай бұрын
Rooney, Kane, RVP, Shearer, Aguero, Cole, Vardy, Owen, Fowler, Wright
@IbbyB.
@IbbyB. Ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with thinking he's not in the top 10. He's not. He's still great.
@samboy90
@samboy90 Ай бұрын
@@ayanroy08Vardy ahead of Drogba? Rooney is severely overrated.
@erlinghakaku9967
@erlinghakaku9967 Ай бұрын
ur deffo a highlights merchant. people that watched drogba play week in week out know he wasnt that guy. plenty other strikers were consistent for the full seasons in back to back seasons.
@JamesLuka-v8e
@JamesLuka-v8e Ай бұрын
The fact you guys even compared Drogba to the likes of Tevez and Berbatov is an absolute disgrace. That’s not even a conversation let alone any debate
@cryptotwentytwenyone2060
@cryptotwentytwenyone2060 Ай бұрын
Tevez couldn't lace his boots.
@keransenthidasan2618
@keransenthidasan2618 Ай бұрын
The Drogba disrespect is fucking wild
@indafield8089
@indafield8089 Ай бұрын
Expected from Arsenal fans
@arsenalsvenfc8809
@arsenalsvenfc8809 Ай бұрын
overhyped tbh quality player but its true his not even top 10 lol
@itsdaveyslife
@itsdaveyslife Ай бұрын
@@keransenthidasan2618 he wasn’t better than Tevez
@alexab543
@alexab543 Ай бұрын
Massively overrated, couldn't win an AFCON with the greatest generation of all time, Ivory Coast did win in it right after he retired though
@DS-dw3pz
@DS-dw3pz Ай бұрын
​@@itsdaveyslifewhat a joke...Drogba was so clear.. when was Tevez considered the best itw or even of the best itw... exactly
@OBELISK3210
@OBELISK3210 Ай бұрын
Drogba Gerard & rooney disrespect is absolutely fckn criminal on this panel. Hyping up berbatov rvp etc over these man is crazy.
@Vibes_FC
@Vibes_FC Ай бұрын
Yeah L takes from these lot... i am dropping this channel its just uncomfortable arguements in watch alongs and shocking takes in these types of videos. The fall off is huge tbh.
@BestInTheWorld13x
@BestInTheWorld13x Ай бұрын
1:03:51 glad Turkish brought this up😂. Rivals try talk to us abt leagues, but dont know abt winning leagues at ur rivals ground like The Arsenal do. Stamford Bridge (2x) White Hart Lane (2x) Anfield and Old Trafford
@AJM187
@AJM187 Ай бұрын
The Gerrard disrespect is crazy. Put some respect on the goat
@abubakr9457
@abubakr9457 Ай бұрын
How can he be the goat without a single PL title lol
@Citycityyy
@Citycityyy Ай бұрын
Slippy G
@jonathank6121
@jonathank6121 Ай бұрын
Needs Atleast 1EPL to be over KDB. Can’t be a goat without one title.
@StandardsFC
@StandardsFC Ай бұрын
Love Gerrard but he is quickly becoming severely overrated. Football is about winning trophies.....Stevie didnt do enough of that.
@MikeLowrey-c6j
@MikeLowrey-c6j Ай бұрын
He's world class but he's no goat
@DrRajeevlochanRavi
@DrRajeevlochanRavi Ай бұрын
This panels IQ with the 1st one is a disgrace. Drogba is so so clear.
@fw7128
@fw7128 Ай бұрын
Drogba scored in over 10 finals & won all of them he is our goat don’t disrespect him like that just because he plays for Chelsea he eats finals for breakfast
@berny3056
@berny3056 Ай бұрын
Drogba had all these “bad seasons “ but his non penalty goals+ assists per 90 is 5th in prem history 0.79(recorded until 22/23) berbatov with 0.64 and tevez with 0.66. But context and facts with drogba is never applied
@sky3880
@sky3880 Ай бұрын
Did Matisse just called Marseille a meady team back then???? They were bigger than PSG😭
@cfcbbrr9830
@cfcbbrr9830 Ай бұрын
Drogba has more golden boots than tevez and Berbatov
@the_odiri
@the_odiri Ай бұрын
It’s Gerard over KDB for me tbh..recency bias putting KDB over Gerard. Just imagine Steven G in KDB’s position playing for Pep..scary
@faridirwan7610
@faridirwan7610 Ай бұрын
It’s KDB over Gerrard for me tbh..nostalgia bias putting Gerrard over KDB. Just imagine KDB assisting Torres or Suarez in their prime..scary
@krul_2158
@krul_2158 Ай бұрын
​@@faridirwan7610 Got em 😂😂
@neelante
@neelante Ай бұрын
Nostalgia Gerrard was a better player than KDB facts.
@chrisg27
@chrisg27 Ай бұрын
They keep bringing Drogbas goal record compared to the others but his goals per game is the same as Berbatov and Tevez. And his goals were more important, and he has more assists.
@Kevin-im1gj
@Kevin-im1gj Ай бұрын
I love these conversations though and how different the opinions are. It shows how football is subjectively appreciated
@kingf4158
@kingf4158 Ай бұрын
Always said as kid, Drogba played like 2 strikers.
@Tania-nm5ps
@Tania-nm5ps Ай бұрын
Don’t ever disrespect DROGBA
@nayara6058
@nayara6058 Ай бұрын
Kevin De Bruyne over Gerrard 7 days a week and twice on a Sunday, at the end he carried Man City consistently after winning 6 premier leagues and a treble🤷
@revendranaidoo4305
@revendranaidoo4305 Ай бұрын
Drogba scored in 10 or 11 cup finals man was the ultimate big game player even scored in big games in the premier league
@dh5379
@dh5379 Ай бұрын
So using Turkish’s argument on how Berbatov is a better ‘footballer’ than Drogba, I expect him to have hazard over Salah.
@JoeSmith-s7d
@JoeSmith-s7d Ай бұрын
Dumb comparison hazard was actually the best player in the league multiple times and clear top5 itw for 3-4 years Salah is more productive hazard is clear when it comes to everything else
@dh5379
@dh5379 Ай бұрын
@ ur literally proving my point lol.
@berny3056
@berny3056 Ай бұрын
The narrative on drogbas low scoring seasons is so lazy and proof people didn’t watch games they just look and goals and appearances . Look at his minutes played those seasons how many times he started and how many injuries he had in those seasons. Drogba’s non penalty goals+ assists per 90(recorded until 22/23) was 5th in premier league history
@calm123
@calm123 Ай бұрын
He also didn't take penalties like best scorers and strikers did, that was Lampard but Drogba won so many penalties G/A stats only is lazy context
@OBELISK3210
@OBELISK3210 Ай бұрын
@@berny3056 yup people forget Lampard got 10 PL goals in 10 consecutive seasons. A factor on his & drogba relationship plus him taking penalties drogba also won. If he had taken 100% of those penalties when on the field given he racks up more goals imo.
@anny-ei7kl
@anny-ei7kl Ай бұрын
Nah fuck drogba scoring in big game thing . Just his heading , skill , hold up play , vollying , ball striking alone he’s the Complete striker could make goals on his own. (Liverpool fan ). Him and Torres was the first few strikers to hold their own up front when formations with one striker starters being introduced in prem. has to be drogba starts teves bench berbatov sell
@guneytopal1713
@guneytopal1713 Ай бұрын
Back in the 4-4-2 days the second striker was basically a false 9/10 and there to create for the main striker so this whole “hold their own with the new formations” is a bs narrative you just spun. Football evolves and the evolution from 4-4-2 to formations like 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 is ironically more accommodating for the striker as they have more support from the wing and the central midfield has an extra man.
@anny-ei7kl
@anny-ei7kl Ай бұрын
@@guneytopal1713you know why that isn’t correct because even in them 4-4-2 the striker that played behind would still be on the second centre back meaning both opposition centre backs where occupied. Them strikers that played up front on their own was one vs two
@bergenxx
@bergenxx Ай бұрын
Gerrard, Rooney and Drogba. They were on beast levels.
@tapintobs
@tapintobs Ай бұрын
Love berba as a spurs boy and he had more tech than both these man but he can’t be put in these convos with the likes of drogba and tevez
@kevink01639
@kevink01639 Ай бұрын
Stop disrespecting Drogba. He easily makes the top10 prem strikers. Come off it
@tapintobs
@tapintobs Ай бұрын
@@kevink01639I don’t think you have interpreted what I’m saying. You’ve read the opposite. I said he can’t size up to drogba and tevez. Watch the video please before you say I’m disrespecting drogba
@kevink01639
@kevink01639 Ай бұрын
@ I’m talking about the general point you made of Drogba not being a top10 PL striker, away from the tevez and berbatov comparisons. You can’t seriously name 10 better PL strikers than drogba without trolling
@tapintobs
@tapintobs Ай бұрын
@ Henry shearer Aguero kane Rooney RvP Cole … then it’s a tussle with him, fowler, vardy etc. - you know what, you’re right he does make top 10 you know when you count it out
@BestInTheWorld13x
@BestInTheWorld13x Ай бұрын
@@kevink01639 hes not wrong, Berbatov is one of the rare players I rate that played fpr both my clubs biggest rivals. He rlly had more tech than both those players alone and a decent striker to back it up
@lebronCFC
@lebronCFC Ай бұрын
Drogba is so disrespected man, MAH gotta do a better job standing up for him, tbf he did decent
@rush.w1751
@rush.w1751 Ай бұрын
hes just scared they will kick him like hughie, acts the same on DR sports....lets others walk all over him and says what rivals wanna hear, so he can stay on the panel
@matissearmani
@matissearmani Ай бұрын
@@rush.w1751lol retarded logic
@rahimkhan4705
@rahimkhan4705 Ай бұрын
The Rooney halaand rvp one isn’t even a debate, start Rooney bench RVP sell halaand
@johnjeffrey6451
@johnjeffrey6451 Ай бұрын
@@rahimkhan4705 100% This is the easiest choice I have seen of these debates. Didn't even have to think about it
@whyalwaysme9333
@whyalwaysme9333 Ай бұрын
De Bruyne was key player for Man City who won titles vs arguably best Liverpool coach and seasons in their history.Best CBs,wingers,Fullbacks in their history.He is starting all day.
@matissearmani
@matissearmani Ай бұрын
I know what my answer is gonna be 3 years time… he didn’t know this was KDB’s last season at the top level 😮
@Ball_Chat_FC
@Ball_Chat_FC Ай бұрын
As a United fan when I heard Tobs say Drogba isn’t even top 10 I wanted to slap him 😂 He must’ve been eating crack with his weetabix
@arnelcapalot
@arnelcapalot Ай бұрын
Last season*
@lebronCFC
@lebronCFC Ай бұрын
Brother KDB has already achieved more… he can leave now he’s already number 1
@arnelcapalot
@arnelcapalot Ай бұрын
@@lebronCFC yeah I didn’t disagree that he has already done everything but for me as a liverpool fan, gerrard is better(if anyone says kdb is first, i won’t disagree)
@J92-DS
@J92-DS Ай бұрын
@@matissearmani I do kind of get it. Once some players retires and you have some time to look over their legacy, they can be seen in a better light
@jerelegendnw8347
@jerelegendnw8347 Ай бұрын
respect rooney and drogba
@yohannesmisikir7056
@yohannesmisikir7056 Ай бұрын
Turkish is traumatized by Rooney and Drogba.Both of them scored double digit against Arsenal BTW.
@daany8700
@daany8700 Ай бұрын
De Bruyne’s in my All Time PL XI. Idk how Matisse comfortably put him bottom esp when Stevie G didn’t even win 1 Prem. Titles and trophies is what it’s about
@jaysmith2858
@jaysmith2858 Ай бұрын
Neither R9 or Eric Cantona got to a CL final, never mind actually won the competition. According to your criteria they also couldn't have been top drawer given that Gerrard won the CL and made another final unlike those two players.
@daany8700
@daany8700 Ай бұрын
@ It’s not about that. The league is bread and butter, you compete for the league every single season. The UCL you might not always be in that competition. If Gerrard really wanted to win a league, he should have left even gone abroad
@jaysmith2858
@jaysmith2858 Ай бұрын
@@daany8700 Football is a team game. Kane never got anywhere near winning the PL. Is he not a PL great? Darren Fletcher picked up a load of PL winner medals, does that mean Fletcher is a PL great but not Gerrard? Only an idiot would say that it does. You talk about the league (in this case the PL) being the "bread and butter" of a club, but you then go on to say Gerrard should have moved abroad i.e. to a club playing in a league that isn't the PL.
@daany8700
@daany8700 Ай бұрын
@ When I said the league is bread and butter, I meant any Top 5 league, Serie A, La Liga etc. As for the whole team game etc. Kane is a PL great but is he in my All Time PL XI or do I consider him greater than Rooney/Aguero/Henry etc…… Fuck No. Maybe if he won some league titles I would but at the end of the day football is about winning. The gratest ever players won a lot of trophies and the greatest ever clubs won a lot of trophies. If you scored loads of goals (Kane) or played really well (Gerrard) every game but it contributed to 0 League titles, then you didn’t win. And you can say ‘It’s not his fault, he’s in a poor team’ THEN LEAVE. If you’re so good and every club would want to sign you, then go leave. RvP did it and now he’s in big boy debates bc he left and won a league. If you don’t leave, it will always be ‘What if’ rather than ‘He did it’
@jaysmith2858
@jaysmith2858 Ай бұрын
@@daany8700 There are plenty of great footballers who didn't win lots of trophies, and there are a fair few 'average' players such as Darren Fletcher who won lots of trophies due to playing for a team with lots of great players in it. Again, only an idiot would base an individual's merit largely based on what the team they played for won. If Messi had played for a poor team who won little to nothing, would you say he wasn't a great? According to you, the answer would be yes you would say that, In which case you'd need to give your head a serious wobble. Shearer won one league title. Is he not a legend? If he is, then Gerrard certainly is given he won two FA cups, three league cups, the CL and the UEFA cup, won both the PFA player and young player of the year awards, was in the PL team if the year eight times, was PFA fans player of the year twice, and also won the FWA footballer if the year award. He is also the only player to have scored in at least one CL, UC/EL, FAC and LC final. Are you saying that all those opposition/PFA players, PL fans, football writers etc are also wrong in their opinion that Gerrard is a great be it a PL or Cup great? If you are, all I can say is "drugs are bad mkay".
@kayus6223
@kayus6223 Ай бұрын
Debruyne was surrounded with the better players, that should be consider. Gerrald for me because of his work rate too.
@faridirwan7610
@faridirwan7610 Ай бұрын
Let's not forget Gerrard play with Torres and Suarez as well
@Prime1Wunna
@Prime1Wunna Ай бұрын
Does this apply to Harry Kane when compared to other strikers?
@tapintobs
@tapintobs Ай бұрын
I’m changing my mind. RVP, Rooney then Haaland
@TurkishLDN
@TurkishLDN Ай бұрын
Same.
@CTID36
@CTID36 Ай бұрын
Too late bro, only listened to what you said in the video 😂👊🏻
@richyorosun9187
@richyorosun9187 Ай бұрын
No chance! You sold one the Premier Leagues greatest footballers. Live your life fella with what you're left with 😂😂
@michelu3369
@michelu3369 Ай бұрын
The Steven Gerrard disrespect is crazy and got me fuming even tho it’s all about opinions. In every facet Gerrard was better. Gerrard could play every position while Kdb played in a attacking role in a pep side that controlled possession. If Kdb played in a city team that wasn’t possession based idt he would perform as well. Also the slip that everyone talks about was Gerrard at 34 playing DM at the end of his career while having 13g and 13a. Gerrard also had the longevity from 16 to 34. When Kdb was injured Gundogan carried and in the game vs Villa. City always found a way without him I.e the CL final. The only thing Kdb has is over Gerrard is pl titles but that’s a TEAM achievement not an individual achievement.
@Prime1Wunna
@Prime1Wunna Ай бұрын
Go check who got the game winning assist for gundogan?, that season kdb was the top goalscorer 🤣 talking about carryjob, the treble season he was the best player, haaland damn near won a ballon dor off kdb assisting him. And last season he came back Newcastle and flipped the league.
@The_Culé_Guy
@The_Culé_Guy Ай бұрын
I swear Gerrard is the most overrated player of all time. Without the Istanbul comeback, no one would rate him this highly. This is a Premier League debate; what did Gerrard do in the league?
@jaysmith2858
@jaysmith2858 Ай бұрын
The supposedly most overrated player of all time that has been in many PL/UEFA teams of the season and is the only player to have scored a goal in the finals of the CL, the UC/EL, FAC and LC. When asked about him Maradona said at the time that Gerrard was the best player/midfielder in the world. Yeah, Gerrard was definitely overrated. 🤦
@tawedzerwazhou9951
@tawedzerwazhou9951 Ай бұрын
Drogba got 40 g/a in one season in the league tevez and dmitar could never
@priyesh12tiwary51
@priyesh12tiwary51 Ай бұрын
@@tawedzerwazhou9951 without penalties and missing a month for AFCON
@LocoAde
@LocoAde Ай бұрын
@tawedzerwazhou9951 Tevez goal rate is superior to Drogba.
@tawedzerwazhou9951
@tawedzerwazhou9951 Ай бұрын
@ lol dude do you understand Drogba was at Chelsea at 35 years of age
@tawedzerwazhou9951
@tawedzerwazhou9951 Ай бұрын
@ michy Batshuayi probably has a better goal rate than both of them
@saleh2749
@saleh2749 Ай бұрын
Man goes “halland got more goals then salah against big 6” 😭😭😭😭😭
@benjysho6290
@benjysho6290 Ай бұрын
Drogba the most disrespected player of all time
@Jeremy-fq6rq
@Jeremy-fq6rq Ай бұрын
What is this guy saying Salah has 47 goals in 72 games against the big six, haaland has scored 15
@emperorlordkhalid9227
@emperorlordkhalid9227 Ай бұрын
I think Haaland is up there with Salah since he's been in the league.
@sooyaaa7760
@sooyaaa7760 Ай бұрын
bringing Stevie G slip into discussion for debate is just embarrassing, people really don't realize who Gerrard really was
@Reform3d
@Reform3d Ай бұрын
Saeed always has an agenda against Liverpool players
@michelu3369
@michelu3369 Ай бұрын
Actually embarrassing man and the reasons given for Kdb were a team achievement and not individually based on who a manager/person would pick. 99% of managers and football players would pick Gerrard over Kdb
@michelu3369
@michelu3369 Ай бұрын
Also if you wanna talk about that slip, he was 34 getting 13g and 13 a from that position while some of these man’s legends are retiring in Saudi or can’t even play 3 games in a row. Also Gerrard played from 16 to 34 so there’s no excuses to fall off like Kdb from 26 to 32. I love Kdb but Gerrard is clear man
@miguelgamer1
@miguelgamer1 Ай бұрын
He gave it to demba ba 😂😂
@ariz.k
@ariz.k Ай бұрын
Big up to Turkish or whoever has put up those match ups. Proper debate 💪🏼
@mckennageno7053
@mckennageno7053 Ай бұрын
De Bruyne can sit out 3/4 of a season and his team are still title challengers. Gerrard had to be there every game of the season, everything on his shoulders. Pressure on KDB? Surrounded by difference makers all over the pitch.
@muttz_10
@muttz_10 Ай бұрын
KDB played the whole szn of 22/23, but the last 3 months of that szn, he was playing w one hamstring n played every game in order for City to win the treble, so there was deffo pressure on KDB and was risking his hamstring too whilst dunking on Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Arsenal n more. He was the difference maker for the team.
@michelu3369
@michelu3369 Ай бұрын
@@muttz_10He was a difference maker but the whole team also had difference makers. When he was injured Gundogan carried in the earlier years and last 2 years we had other people carry.
@michelu3369
@michelu3369 Ай бұрын
Yup exactly. If Gerrard wasn’t there that Lfc team would never challenge at all. He played 18 years is every position at a high level. At 34 he was one of the reasons Lfc challenged from a DM position. It’s actually crazy. Kdb at 32 has been finished. Gerrard started at a high level at18 btw while Kdb got into a high level at 26. Gerrards done it double the time too
@TaxEvader22
@TaxEvader22 Ай бұрын
Wtf… if you take Messi or Ronaldo out of any of those Madrid or Barca teams they are still title contenders too? It doesn’t matter if he’s surrounded by difference makers, KDB is THE difference maker. Smh
@michelu3369
@michelu3369 Ай бұрын
@@TaxEvader22 I love Kdb but how can you be the main difference maker when without him they still won titles and the CL. Rodri was the most important player last few seasons and prior there was Gundogan and Mahrez when Kdb was out. Stop chatting BS
@Jeremy-fq6rq
@Jeremy-fq6rq Ай бұрын
Gerrard clears de bruyne
@Thewipah7
@Thewipah7 Ай бұрын
L ball knowledge 🤣😂
@Jeremy-fq6rq
@Jeremy-fq6rq Ай бұрын
@ Dbi
@alecjohnson5269
@alecjohnson5269 Ай бұрын
OH DEAR 😅 YOU ARE LOST 😂KDB WINS TREBLES AND FOURPEATS
@sdm_za
@sdm_za Ай бұрын
Where are the trophies? 17 seasons and nothing to show? Even Drinkwater has a PL 😭
@timepassfootball2250
@timepassfootball2250 Ай бұрын
Clears in slipping 😂😂
@ScreenplayMCFC
@ScreenplayMCFC Ай бұрын
You lads been saving this video since October 11th. Steve said "haaland broke norways record YESTERDAY" so his video was taken October 11th LOL
@3zk999
@3zk999 Ай бұрын
Chelsea fan, to have Gerrard with Cesc and KDB is insane, if there’s one midfielder I can take in his prime it’s Stevie G and he starts for every team regardless of the league the system and all that.
@alarrim29574
@alarrim29574 Ай бұрын
Cesc is a clear bench. Kdb is in that conversation tho. He is at a level to be in the goat midfielders conversation along side schools, lampard, gerrard and viera
@cfcbbrr9830
@cfcbbrr9830 Ай бұрын
Berbatov and tevez can’t look at drogba
@assadlawrence8248
@assadlawrence8248 Ай бұрын
Glad mAH backed our guy drogba
@adamsa1877
@adamsa1877 Ай бұрын
Rooney mentioned that it was himself that wanted to play more midfield/10 than striker as it meant he was more involved in the game playing with the ball than just being a striker
@AngryMountainGorilla
@AngryMountainGorilla Ай бұрын
Can't believe i'm saying this but Turkish was by far the most deluded one on the panel
@sandeshrayamajhi6755
@sandeshrayamajhi6755 Ай бұрын
KDB is the best ever PL midfielder OAT.
@K_Truth7
@K_Truth7 Ай бұрын
The Gerrard disrespect is genuinely outrageous! The fact that you mention his slip is an indication that you never watched him in his prime. He is simply the best midfielder the PL has ever had. No disrespect to anyone.
@faridirwan7610
@faridirwan7610 Ай бұрын
He is not. KDB is the greatest
@jaysmith2858
@jaysmith2858 Ай бұрын
Gerrard is the closest player ever to being a real life "Roy of the Rovers". Take Gerrard out of the Liverpool sides he played in and it's quite likely that Liverpool would have won absolutely nothing. Gerrard is the only player to have scored in the final of all of the CL, UEFA Cup (now the Europa League) FA Cup, and League Cup competitions. Anybody who tries to cite his slip (a unfortunate accident, not a mistake/f-up as some would have you believe) in order to try and discredit him is a cretin who either knows nothing about football, or they're just a 🔔 🔚 looking for any reason to try and discredit a player that even Maradona said at one point in time was the best player/midfielder in the world.
@faridirwan7610
@faridirwan7610 Ай бұрын
@@jaysmith2858 nice joke
@K_Truth7
@K_Truth7 Ай бұрын
@@faridirwan7610 you're a child.
@dominiclawson4058
@dominiclawson4058 Ай бұрын
As a Liverpool fan Drogba is easily a top ten premier league striker. Would probably have him 7, maybe 6. When he left Chelsea I didn’t fear them in anyway the same way. Even Costa wasn’t at Drogba’s level in his pomp
@cfcbbrr9830
@cfcbbrr9830 Ай бұрын
Mandem really acting like Berbatov and tevez can look at drogba? WOW
@sand33pcfc86
@sand33pcfc86 Ай бұрын
The fact Turkish doesn’t rate drogba is embarrassing
@ScreenplayMCFC
@ScreenplayMCFC Ай бұрын
Christmas treat indeed! Ordering pizza, about to watch some great content. love for the love
@AF050
@AF050 Ай бұрын
Ordering a pizza at noon is crazy
@miket7056
@miket7056 Ай бұрын
Here's why Drogba goal scoring record is underrated; 1. He won 2 Golden boots in pl, his peak being 29 goals in 32 apps he didn't take any pens btw 2. He scored 36 goals (2nd high for an English club behind Salah)in the ucl for Chelsea ( 15 of them in the ko - the most for an English club in ucl ko) 3. He scored 65 goals in 105 apps for his country 4. He has 400+ goals in his career 5. Most importantly he scored in FINALS 10 goals in 10 apps for Chelsea in comparison Henry has 0(yes ZERO!) goals In 10+ finals apps lmao
@Naty5HD
@Naty5HD Ай бұрын
Rooney and Drogba I apologise in behalf of the Big 6ix community for the poor Analziesis on your careers. Twerkish MUST apologise for his conduct.
@cks2.7
@cks2.7 Ай бұрын
How is Drogba not top 10 stikers in the prem ?? 😭😭
@slickafc675
@slickafc675 Ай бұрын
@@cks2.7 not enough goals overall 🤷‍♂️
@Ahlami-rk6sj
@Ahlami-rk6sj Ай бұрын
Half this men ball knowledge has to be questioned at this point, outrageous takes.
@FootballKhanage
@FootballKhanage Ай бұрын
Shut up
@MobehTaBlues
@MobehTaBlues Ай бұрын
The takes are ..not ti sound disrespectful...dumb
@Wantoworld
@Wantoworld Ай бұрын
Especially griz emotionally for Liverpool players
@cgbruz1231
@cgbruz1231 Ай бұрын
Its just a debate bro it ain't even that deep though opinions are opinions
@travella3962
@travella3962 Ай бұрын
That Drogba chat, specially from Turkish was shocking! Big up Tobs and Saeed!
@garythesnail7631
@garythesnail7631 Ай бұрын
I'm a young Gooner. Rooney is my fave PL player ever. Only cos Henry was before my time. Rooney> Cristiano
@it-is-what-it-is-CFC
@it-is-what-it-is-CFC Ай бұрын
Never heard so much BS in my life . The Chelsea hate keeps coming
@tushal2805
@tushal2805 Ай бұрын
Opinions like turkish that not to start drogba and sell him makes me hates arsenal fans
@Hennyjonez
@Hennyjonez Ай бұрын
I'm pissed at Mattise for allowing these clowns to disrespect Drogba.
@JohnKyle-gm6es
@JohnKyle-gm6es Ай бұрын
Wtf is Steve talking about Haaland has more goals against big six? Haaland has 15 salah has 47, these lot are so uneducated at times.
@Everthing.Sports
@Everthing.Sports Ай бұрын
Always enjoy the debates, big up the big 6 💪
@TurkishLDN
@TurkishLDN Ай бұрын
I’ll be real, I’m a Rooney hater. Debut goal against Arsenal for Everton and a debut hat-trick against Fenerbahce for Utd 💔
@WaseemKhan-sp4yl
@WaseemKhan-sp4yl Ай бұрын
1 goal in world cup embarrassing
@CptTurk81
@CptTurk81 Ай бұрын
Cimbom! 😅
@Adam-zp6td
@Adam-zp6td Ай бұрын
Drogba hater too, but I understand he dog walked your club everytime he played yous. 15 in 15 must be embarrassing
@BestInTheWorld13x
@BestInTheWorld13x Ай бұрын
Plus he dived to end our unbeaten run
@JamesLuka-v8e
@JamesLuka-v8e Ай бұрын
You’re also a Drogba hater for even comparing him with Tevez and Berbatov, what type of idiocy is that?? Typical Arsenal fan still salty he finished your club every time he faced you
@obifitness9724
@obifitness9724 Ай бұрын
What an episode!!!! Will follow from now on!👊🏽👊🏽
@МаксимКутузов-с7х
@МаксимКутузов-с7х Ай бұрын
Respect for Saeed for trying to put his bias aside
@passmethedrog2650
@passmethedrog2650 Ай бұрын
Great series guys. I think next step is to move on to defensive players - CB, GK, Fullbacks and DMs. One thing i don’t understand is the restriction to PL performances. That limits the pool of players you can compare for various reasons. I would have loved to see a discussion around Aguero, Suarez and Lewandowski.
@OmarHassanieh
@OmarHassanieh Ай бұрын
The BIG 3 plus 7th 11th and 13th 😂
@Ace-7AFC
@Ace-7AFC Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@yusufislam1608
@yusufislam1608 Ай бұрын
@@OmarHassanieh 🤣🤣🤣
@SultanaConcept
@SultanaConcept Ай бұрын
Salah got 47 goals against the big six Erling Haaland got 16. WTF is Steve talking about?
@AbdulTalksFootball
@AbdulTalksFootball Ай бұрын
Start Cesc Bench Gerrard Sell kdb Start Drogba Bench tevez Sell berbatov Start Rooney Bench Rvp Sell halaand Man would say I have a citeh agenda but I know my BALLERS n that's my preference
@enesaltin3187
@enesaltin3187 Ай бұрын
Drogba was a beast ? Man closed his eyes while watching all those games
@patricksako887
@patricksako887 Ай бұрын
This is gold content! Big up man
@Dogowner447
@Dogowner447 Ай бұрын
54:43 Haaland has 16 PL goals against the big six, Salah has 47... idk what stat Big Steve saw lmao
@mofrm6-070
@mofrm6-070 Ай бұрын
Wayne Rooney finished 5th in ballon dor in 2011. 2nd most goals in prem history and he isn’t even a striker. . Wayen Rooney was miles better than RVP in 2011
@A..M..A
@A..M..A Ай бұрын
Didier Drogba is clear.
@contrarian322
@contrarian322 Ай бұрын
These same ppl who big up berbatov against drogba will say salad is better than hazard . These lot are the deluded arsenal and Liverpool fans
@KingKelz144
@KingKelz144 Ай бұрын
these guys are deluded. Im united fan n i would take drogba over berb every time , these man are going maaaad lol
@notfamos
@notfamos Ай бұрын
Salah IS better than hazard. Better in every attribute other than dribbling
@preethamhazard
@preethamhazard Ай бұрын
@@notfamos Most man of the match awards? Hazard was receiving the ball in his own half and dribbling through the middle and scoring or assisting. Salah is a wide forward and mostly plays in the final third. That's why his numbers are so high. He can't score goals like Hazard taking on the whole team from his own half multiple times
@Assassins6688
@Assassins6688 Ай бұрын
Hazard himself said that salahs better just shut up bro
@contrarian322
@contrarian322 Ай бұрын
@@notfamos at this present moment ..if united could sign a player to change their fortunes .. would they go for prime salah or prime hazard . My answer is Hazard . salah would be anonymous with that dross around him . But hazard would drag that dross across the line .
@omarschrouder614
@omarschrouder614 Ай бұрын
Rate you man, keep up the quality content G's
@Dapps07
@Dapps07 Ай бұрын
The Halaand, Rooney and Van Persie debate is quite easy honestly especially during this time. Start Rooney, Bench Persie and sell Halaand. This is my arguement, ALL Halaand does is score goals and NOTHING else which makes this easy because the other 2 freaks also score goals as well easily AND they offer much more..
@OBELISK3210
@OBELISK3210 Ай бұрын
@@Dapps07 also gotta look at availability & rvp had a horrible injury record. Haaland not so much. I’d start rooney bench haaland. Rvp for me didn’t do enough in CL & domestically. Had 1 huge season at Utd. Haalands been a juggernaut since & he’s only getting started. Plus he’s got a good availability record. Availability is the best ability& it’s one of the top 5 aspects I use in these debates & my starting 12 ( inc manager ) for TOTS. It’s why I pip salah ahead of hazard because of a availablity & longevity being 2 of the 5 he has over him that’s clear winner.
@Gadity351
@Gadity351 Ай бұрын
The main job of a striker is to score goals. Don’t ever forget that
@Dapps07
@Dapps07 Ай бұрын
@Gadity351 yeah, we can see how that is helping City right now. Let's not forget you if put Rooney or Persie on the pitch they also Score goals. No nothing Halaand can do that those 2 cannot do but they offer much more than just goals even tho they score a lot of it as well..
@Gadity351
@Gadity351 Ай бұрын
@@Dapps07 Rooney and Van Persie were better footballers but never as prolific as Haaland. In Haaland’s first season he broke the record for most prem goals in a season. If you want a reliable goal scorer, haaland is the best option
@TM19904
@TM19904 Ай бұрын
The Gerrard slander is crazy man, Gerrard ain’t getting subbed in the semi final Of a CL when your team needs a goal
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