Starter Pokémon in Pokémon Legends Z-A

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[@TyranitarTube]

I love how my favorite ones were either nostalgia bait or the exact thing I said was unlikely LOL What three starters do you think are gonna be the ones we go back to Kalos with?

[@largechild9941]

honestly, i think its just gonna be chespin fennekin and froakie, and instead of regional forms they get the megas they rightfully deserve

[@SimplyIdiotic808]

honesty i'd love Chimchar, Grookey, Quaxly

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

No way Sprigatito would be a starter for this, so the thumbnail might be so wrong.

[@julianhinck5455]

I think (hope) snivy,pinplup,scorbuny Serperior is literly designd after french royelty, Empoleon is desind after Napoleon bonarpate and Cinder ace is in my opinion the best Galar starter.

[@SimplyIdiotic808]

@@largechild9941 But then Greninja would be Ash Greninja and it wouldn't make sense with Legends Arceus having different regional starters imo.

[@JosephMcLain-r6m]

I’ve heard from other sources about the possibility of Empoleon(Representing Napoleon), Serperior(Representing French monarchy and style in the past), and then Cinderace(Representing the history of ⚽️ in France and how much it impacts culture)

[@appleducky5234]

This seems to be the consensus among speculators, but will gamefreak really be this predictable???

[@Venkitty]

BROOO SCORBUNNY FITS KALOS SO WELL

[@brilleon]

I have the same thought, then i remember Cinderace has Gigantamax form, then i switch to Litten Edit : Switch back to Scorbunny because of France Soccer

[@JosephMcLain-r6m]

@@brilleon That actually makes sense, I think the idea of not choosing Litten though is bc Incinaroar would just be to powerful with a Mega (assuming that the new starters get Mega’s)

[@yohannbearzi1496]

It’s more likely that Torchic would make the cut. The rooster is a French emblem, and soccer didn’t really exist in 1800s, so it’s kind of anachronistic. Also this set of starter was showcased with the LPA starters in a DLC2 trailer.

[@ShayTheValiant]

I think we will be choosing 2 starter Pokémon again like we did in X and Y. We first choose from Snivy, Scorbunny, and Piplup, as their final evolutions will get regional forms. We then choose from the Kalos starters (Chespin, Fennekin, and Froakie) as their final evolutions will get Mega Evolutions.

[@rossjones8656]

I like this. I feel like it just works.

[@AJmillado9]

no Mega Charizard Z? hahah, but yea sounds awesome to me. Sucks the gen 6 mons didn't get their megas in their own game. Really want Delphox and Chesnaught to get better designs once they mega evolve.

[@miguelsebastianrijo6099]

I like this one. My choise would be: Snivy, and Fennekin

[@SylviaBlessing]

I would choose Snivy and frogie

[@Heheheha-sh5zh]

Piplup and fennekin 100%

[@holondrix3949]

I think Snivy, Scorbunny, and Piplup are the generally most ideal trio just based on how well they tie in to the region, the legitimacy of them getting new forms (I'm kinda just hoping for new megas for their normal final evos bc I don't want to part with Empoleon's amazing Water/Steel typing), as well as how much people are already speculating this exact trio. Plus, I think they got pretty good color diversity.

[@lilyramirez190]

I agree! :D

[@roxxmaru]

yeah, i think they could go a new trio for plza starters and they get megas route, or non-french related pokemon get french inspired kalosian forms, or just kalos starters and they get megas

[@thanasis89]

This man's about to carry us through a year-long+ hype season. Thank you for all you do Ttar!!

[@teewhyeee]

he is such a great content creator!!! love his videos - and we from the same city

[@shuichisaihara53]

The starters will be Snivy (Because it's based on french culture), Piplup (Because of its Napoleon inspiration), and Scorbunny (France and their tie with Football).

[@AJmillado9]

My thoughts exactly. Altho I think France is also known to be champions in Handball, so a Handball Cinderace variant would be sick.

[@xanam4913]

This is my list too. Snivy and scorbunny being mono type makes it feel better too.

[@meng2976]

The rooster is a symbol of France and because of a hint in an old Indigo Disk trailer, it's probably Torchic instead of Scorbunny

[@shuichisaihara53]

@@meng2976 Torchic already has a final Evo with a mega so if the theories on giving the starters of this game megas then why would you choose a pre existing one?

[@qifrey2472]

​@@meng2976If Torchic is one of the starters, then Piplup can't be one.

[@njivwathomassilavwe2056]

Seriously hoping it's Serperior. Not only is it fitting design wise it's also my favorite Pokemon and I'd explode from happiness if it got a regional form

[@XDLR]

SAME, I would be so happy!

[@Kinowolf]

Quaxly coming from distant lands is probably a soft reference to Brazil

[@Kanamo4781]

I mean it is a brazilian dancer

[@Kinowolf]

@@Kanamo4781 yes, that’s why I said that

[@ouroboros539]

My fucking country. I think it will be Serperior-Cinderace-Empoleon or Meganium-Inceneroar-Feraligator

[@sakihaya8196]

I believe that Piplup should be included in the game, as Empoleon, one of its evolutions, is based on Napoleon. Given that Napoleon was the leader of the French Republic and the French king, it makes sense for Piplup to be included as well. Additionally, Servine is also based on French royalty and was inspired by Lady Oscar, the main character from the anime "The Rose of Versailles", which is also set in France. Cinderace would also be a fitting candidate, as France has won the World Cup twice.

[@westonmeyer3110]

You pretty much nailed it

[@Eonthemoon98]

Makes sense but piplup was available in legends arceus

[@sakihaya8196]

@@Eonthemoon98 it wasn’t a starter only typlosion, decidueye, and samurot were the starters

[@iliasmamalakis777]

You saw that one youtube short too right?

[@sj1productions68]

I imagine that if Sprigatito was picked for Legends Z-A, a Kalosian Meowscarada would be themed after mimes (often associated with France)

[@deadlydingus1138]

The fact that cats hunt with stealth works perfectly. I mean, mimes are known for being quiet.

[@Rocksauce]

Love the mimes

[@loiedonn4192]

Thats impossible because guess what we still have Scarlet/Violet. Having Sprigatito again as a starter on another mainline game is straight up redundant.

[@XDLR]

@@loiedonn4192 I agree tbh

[@Uncreative_Username]

Hopefully it won’t be on 2 legs lol

[@foxythe9402]

The starters will likely be Snivy and pipulp for sure since both have France inspirations in their designs(hell empoleon is based of napoleon)

[@kelleymaxwell3875]

I'm not sure on the starters, but if there's no new Eeveelutions, I'm passing.

[@foxythe9402]

@@kelleymaxwell3875 there likely will never be a new eeveelution and what do you mean about the starters?

[@user-dc1sh1gf2x]

Before I watch my guesses are Piplup Snivy and either Litten or scorbunny

[@guilhermereis4354]

I think it has to be scorbunny. Litten is a cool pokemon, but Incineroar is already very powerful in competitive and giving him a Mega Evolution would make the balancing of the game a hell. A lot of people would complain. Also his middle evolution is a double type pokemon, which makes it harder to get a regional form

[@kumi_dex]

@@guilhermereis4354 About your last point, dual type pokemon changing one type isnt unheard of(Rowlet)

[@guilhermereis4354]

@@kumi_dex Yeah, but Rowlet starts with dual type and in the final form it changes the second type. But in the other case the pokemon would start one type, go dual type in the second form and then it changes type again in the final form. Pokemon changing types on evolution is normal, but one that has a different type for each evolution is unheard of and also really bad for the moves that pokemon will learn. But I guess this discussion is useless cause I was wrong, Torracat is not dual type lol

[@Shmoopyn]

I think Snivy is gonna be the grass starter at least. Serperior is french based right? like royal looking and stuff

[@boomermcboom8609]

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[@TheMiningMeteor]

8:56 I just imagined feraligatr with the “Jaw drops to floor younger rolls out” face

[@DragonTyer]

i just thougt what the hell he alredy got a Giant Jaw

[@cerobathetalllady]

Imagine if Kalosian Feraligatr becomes a regular ol' alligator.

[@brilleon]

Okay, i read some comments and i think many people have the same idea.. BUT!!! here : My theory is the starter wont get a Mega. The second starter will. Just like in the original XY game. The Legend Z-A starter will be Scorbunny, Piplup, & Snivy with Kalosian form for the final evolution. Then then second starter is Fennekin, Froakie, & Chespin that evolve to regular final form but they will get a Mega Evo. Why? Because they still need a good marketing, if a new regionl form got a Mega Evo, it will be like the 2nd phase of evolution, put a side/forgoten/not many people will like. So we will get : - Kalosian Cinderace. - Kalosian Serperior. - Kalosian Empoleon. - Mega Delphox. - Mega Greninja. - Mega Chesnaugt.

[@BaithNa]

Snivy and Piplup are obvious choices but I think the fire starter will be Charmander so they can introduce Mega Charizard Z and Mega Charizard A.

[@leafgreen83]

charizard Z and A wont be happening lmao thats too much. mewtwo z and a wont be happening either 99% sure

[@Azusashusband]

Personally I do not think just because its based off France it won't be a starter. For example Legends Arceus. Only Oshawott is actually originally based off Japanese myth and history. Greninja, Blaziken, Emboar, Samurott are all Japanese myth and probably other starters too that I missed. So Piplup, Snivy, Blaziken are in my opinion not the set three I personally especially think they will not do gen 5 again so although I absolutely love Snivy I don't think it would be used again

[@eravas411]

6:43 I don’t think they’d put grookey and chimchar together, 2/3 of the starters being monkeys feels like something they’d avoid

[@V_O_X]

My theory is that XY starters will get megas, and other 3 that will be the starters for Legends Z-A will receive a kalosal/kalosian(whatever it is called) regional form of their final evolution, same as Legends Arceus.

[@Bobzilla2023]

No shot Gen 9 starters are getting new variants.

[@ZimVerse]

People said the same thing about the Gen 7 starters

[@NX_TV]

@@ZimVerseexcept Legends Arceus was gen 8, so giving a gen 7 starter a new form was unexpected, but not as far fetched as a gen 9 starter getting another form in itw own gen.

[@BeeBeeBeeLol]

This is under the pretense that there was no megas. Now that megas are in the equation, it would throw a massive wrench in balancing and be quite unfair to the non-regional variant final evolutions. @@ZimVerse

[@McGoofy1001]

Exactly why they'd do it. Nobody expected a Kalos Legends game either.

[@Uncreative_Username]

Well the time difference between the gen 8 releases and gen 7 releases are much longer than gen 8-9 we had more time for gen 7 hype to slow down than gen 8 and 9

[@International_tee]

I’m going with snivy because of the French inspiration, Piplup because of Napoleon, Litten because of the world Fair came to Paris after the revocation.

[@yasedb]

Going by Quaquavals inspiration the distant land Quaxly comes from could be a Brazil region on the other side of the ocean

[@berkeozturk8484]

What if the starters get new megas

[@EmiCheese]

And they don't give them to the Kalos Starters lol

[@BaithNa]

Charizard Z!

[@Sylvieboy72]

Words cannot express how much Spotlight the Sprigatitio line has gotten since its debut! Being one of the Starters would be the icing on the cake! And im here for it!🌿🐈

[@turboshazed7370]

Snivy, Piplup and Scorbunny would be pretty dope.

[@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500]

Serperior is based off of European aristocracy and is shaped like a French fleur-de-lisse Blaziken is France's national animal, and this wouldn't be the first time Blaziken has received favouritism over the other Hoenn starters in a Kalos game Empoleon literally has Napoleon taking up 3 quarters of it's entire name

[@Aestha_]

I feel like the starters are just gonna be the Kalos starters. With Legends Arceus it made sense to not have the Sinnoh starters because we got BDSP like two months prior and it would be boring to have them immediately again. We haven’t really seen the Kalos starters in a while properly, i’d say it would just be them with megas.

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

They probably won’t as they’ll probably give new forms for the starters and give the kalos starters from x and y megas hopefully

[@Airkong423]

Ew not more Gayninja love

[@Libra-_-]

@@Airkong423lol your favourite Mon is probably something lame like Maril

[@Airkong423]

@@Libra-_- Sceptile tho Marill is better than Gayninja

[@movies798]

The starters I chose are Snivy, Popplio, and Chimchar.

[@davepumphernickel9568]

Honestly I could see Quaquavel being a Musketeer with his fancy dancing movement he looks like a good sword Pokémon, also I could see him having a fancy hat winking with a water sword very flamboyantly.

[@boomermcboom8609]

"And then we have a dinosaur, a pig and a duck..." legit loled hard at that

[@kei.13]

Piplup, Scorbunny, and Snivy seems most likely, though I could see them taking Sprigatito over Snivy since Oshawott was in LA and the anime features Sprigatito heavily.

[@VolcaronaPlays]

I think it'll be Snivy, Piplup, and Litten

[@joakobm60]

for the love of god pls not litten, last thing we need is megan incin

[@BrandonJames2016]

I’m just hoping snivy is one of the starters bc it’s my favorite grass starter and I would love it if got a regional evolution when it becomes superior and gains the dragon typing.

[@Jenfro7]

My prediction is Chikorita, Chimchar and Poplio. Let's goooooooo show my girl chikorita some looooooove

[@mindwinder.]

Snivy, Piplup, Scorbunny

[@DenDave_]

Feel like Snivy and Piplup are the most obvious choices. Piplup because well Empoleon is literally named after Emperor Napoleon, and Snivy because Serperior has the monarchical/royal design.

[@kamifischer7357]

Yea, also I have seen people putting torchik as the fire starter, because the rooster is a national symbol for peace (also in the trailer for the Blueberry academy if I remember correctly, has this 3 in side by side with the Legend Arceus trio)

[@cappella264]

I hope we get an explanation on who the girl who says “you are not the one” is, Maybe she lost her husband in legends ZA or father or mother or child I don’t know, it would be cool if they explored it, Lumiose city is where you meet her in the first place, Also while thinking about why they leaned into Gen 8 and Gen 5 but then I realised that Gen 6 is in between them (I know Gen 7 is as well but we’ll just ignore that for this) So I think that’s a cool maybe hint towards this game, If I were choosing the starters I would probably have Serperior, Infernape & either Sobble or Quaxly, I think these would be cool choices because I like all of them and would like Inteleon to get more love and Quaxly to get a better evolvution because we all know Quaxwell and Quaqaval are awful (worst Gen 9 starters change my opinion)

[@seanmulwe7387]

Pre watching vid I’m guessing snivy piplup n scorbunny since they have heavy ties to France n scorbunny since its original region neighbors to France

[@KingCandyMann]

I definitely feel like our Legends Z-A starters are likely to be Snivy, Torchic, and Piplup. In the Indigo Disk promotion trailer introducing the return of all starters, the trailer was LED OFF with showing the Legends Arceus trio paired up with 3 other starters of the same type: Cyndaquil with Torchic, Oshawott with Piplup, and Rowlet with Snivy. They wanted us to pay attention to those pairs before ANYTHING else in the trailer by leading off with footage of them together in those pairs. We don't even see those starters paired with any others for the rest of the trailer! This screams "this is a hint!" in my opinion. Showing them off in those pairs specifically would also make us create natural parallels between each pair of starters as well, which is another massive hint towards the new Legends trio. Plus, Snivy, Torchic, and Piplup all have strong ties to Kalos (i.e. France) thanks to real world parallels, so they fit perfectly as Kalosean starters (watch video for details about that). If this is the case, they are most likely getting regional forms, as Blaziken can Mega Evolve already, and while having the other starters receive Megas does sound cool, it kinda leaves Blaziken in the dust in comparison to the others getting brand new Megas. If they all get regional forms, it gives them all a new chance to shine. It's very possible for Blaziken to get a new regional form despite having a Mega variant, since Slowbro has already done this year's ago! My guess is that while Snivy, Torchic, and Piplup get new regional forms, the O.G. Kalos starters will get new Mega Evolutions instead. It seems more fitting, considering they were robbed their chances of getting one in their debut generation (excluding Ash-Greninja I suppose). Of course, GameFreak folks will do what they want, but I believe this will most likely be how things shake out.

[@that-guy-pearce]

Sinnoh, Johto, and Unova are good picks for starters cause those that were there for X and Y wifi trading remember how hard it was to get those specific regions' starters

[@taramanders1269]

We also need to think about the inspiration of the starters, the Kalos starters are based on DnD Classes (Paladin, Wizard, and Rogue) so the new starters could also be based on the other DnD classes as well.

[@boodstain]

Snivy, it's based on Western culture specifically French aristocricy, it has the fleur-de-lis on it too. The symbol of France/French Royalty. Empoleon, it's literally penguin-napoleon with the trident, a symbol associated with some french cities, and a high-collar. Scorbunny, French soccer leagues/sports I'm less certain about scorbunny but piplup and snivy are basically confirmed.

[@yohannbearzi1496]

Torchic is gonna be the fire starter. It symbolizes the Rooster, a French emblem. Piplup for Napoleon reference. Snivy for the Fleur de Lys (French aristocracy symbol)

[@svenrosen-lidholm1713]

I really want Snivy, Fuecoco and Piplup

[@Laz3rCat95]

I like that last combination of Sprigatito, Tepig, and Totodile a lot. Totodile is my favorite and I would love to see them make another variant of Feraligatr, whether that be a new regional variant or a mega. I could totally see them making a slower, more bulky Feraligatr variant that has a prehistoric look to it and being Water/Rock type.

[@dexART_75]

I'm calling this. The starters will be the Kalos starters, but they'll all either get new forms + mega evolutions, or just mega evolutions. Come back here in a few months and give me my props.

[@Bobzilla2023]

This is the video I was most looking forward to watching form you. Rn the main consensus is Torchic, Snivy, Piplup. But I like to see what you think.

[@augustmyers339]

I’m thinking Snivy, Scorbunny, and Piplup

[@Quaxo21]

Very unrelated however I think that if there is ever a Brazil region, Quaxly will be a wild pokemon there because as you mentioned in its scarlet Pokédex it says it came from a far away land and it’s evolution and design and even its name is Brazilian inspired, Brazil was colonized by Portugal which is on the Iberian peninsula which is the real world equivalent of Paldea, also Brazil is basically a line with no obstacles to Portugal

[@Anastasis1610]

It will be dope to come back to this video after the starters are revealed

[@deanleemans6627]

Empolion as a reference to napoleon is probably what the water starter is going to be

[@merukikogara1515]

In a trailer for the indigo disc, each of the three starters from Legends Arceus are shown with another starter of their type. And those three would make perfect sense for this game: Torchic, Piplup, Snivy

[@Aqua-bt6sp]

I don’t know why but when you said a dinosaur,a pig and a duck I started laughing 😂

[@DubbaCheezBugga]

My guess is Snivy Scorbunny and Piplup But I’m not gonna lie: Sprigatito, Chimchar, and Sobble look REALLY good together.

[@Some_rook]

For the next legends game, after legends, z-a is gonna be Squirtle Treecko Fennekin because Squirtle Treecko final evolutions don’t have a secondary type and Fennekin can be finally fairy type

[@annawehmeyer]

Others are predicting Snivy, Scorbunny, and Piplup because of their origins and stuff. I think it almost has to be them. Either that or the Kalos starters will simply be getting megas.

[@anthonythomas305]

Great video and nice choices for the Z-A starters! For me, I would go with: Snivy (Grass), Sobble (Water), and Chimchar (Fire)

[@JML689]

Lol here are the LITERAL DESCRIPTIONS OF THEIR ORIGINS SERPERIOR and EMPOLEON respectively: SERPERIOR Ken Sugimori has said that Snivy, Servine, and Serperior are based on Western culture, specifically mentioning Lady Oscar from the manga series The Rose of Versailles as an inspiration. Serperior, Emboar, and Samurott's evolutionary lines are collectively based on Western, Chinese, and Japanese culture respectively, to represent the diversity of the Unova region.[1] The fact that Serperior amplifies sunlight in its body, as stated in its Pokédex entry, *may be an allusion to King Louis XIV of France, who famously referred to himself as the "Sun King". Its white face may allude to the skin whitening fashion, mostly used by the European aristocracy in the 17th century.* The way it keeps its tiny arms behind its back is a signal of dominance and authority. Its body markings resemble the acanthus leaf motifs popularized during the Renaissance. *The dark green design on its chest seems to form a fleur-de-lis, a French insignia that is used on many European noble families' and nations' coat of arms.* Along with its regal look, Serperior's ability to seize opponents with its piercing stare may be a reference to the basilisk, the king of serpents in European legend. EMPOLEON Empoleon appears to be based on an emperor penguin and an emperor, in reference to its royal appearance. Based on its names in various languages, *Empoleon may specifically take inspiration from Napoleon Bonaparte, an emperor of France.* Empoleon's beak has the appearance of both a crown and a trident, a fishing tool and the weapon of choice for the Greek god of the sea, Poseidon. Empoleon also bears some resemblance to the royal penguin. Its ability to cut through ice with its sharp wings could be a reference to an icebreaker. Check bulbapedia It would be pretty stupid to NOT have piplup and snivy be starters in ZA - it just fits too well, and they wouldn't make sense for any other region/legends in the future.

[@mattchew8mealey921]

Watch them give us Mega Charizard Z 😂

[@zyulls]

The one that makes the most sense to me involves Chikorita evolving into a Grass/Fairy. It would make sense since Kalos is where we were introduced to Fairy. And for khu's hint with the 4 regions it could be referencing the following; Charmander for Kanto (Z mega), Chikorita for Johto, Tepig for Unova, and Quaxly for Paldea.

[@cargoesbrrr3707]

If it was the totodile line you could give them a longer thinner snout as a crocodile. Everyone gets alligators and crocodiles mixed up at some point. You can see that feraligatyr is obviously the alligator due to the name and the wide jaw and head so it is very possible for a thinner faster more streamline version of it as a crocodile.

[@cynder7563]

Here's my thing: I am extremely excited to see Megas returning and see new ones for this game. What I don't want is for us to have our partner pokemon be from Gen 1 and 3. They have Megas, scrap them; we find them in the wild. I believe that Chimchar, Chikorita, and either Sobble or Quaxly will be three. Or Turtwig, Tepig, and Totodile. I'm trying to avoid the regions that got picked.

[@AimedexWilds]

Charmander being one with a different evolution and that one gets a new mega being charizard Z makes a lot of sense.

[@LewysCole7]

I reckon it should be Pokémon that final evolutions didn't have a 2nd type, so I'm going with Snivy, Totadile and Scorbunny

[@alolan_ace]

as many others have said, Snivy, Scorbunny and Piplup. They all have potential ties to Kalos with their final evos. Also Cinderace is my favourite Pokémon so i'd be super happy to have it get some more attention

[@Redhoodtcf]

Snivy, Litten, Totodile would be sick.

[@dannybz7421]

As much as I realllllyyy want sprigatito since it’s my favorite grass type starter ever. Snivy just fits kalos so much better, as well as empoleon and then as far as fire I have no idea.

[@sarveshs3244]

TWang locked in for that 1 year hype season

[@Pkmn_Gen.5_fan]

It's not my Idea but I think Snivy, Piplup and Scorbunny are making more sense to be the Legends ZA Starters. For Grass is Snivy because of the western inspiration for Serperior, Water is Piplup because Empoleon got the inspiration from Napoleon a French leader and Fire is Scorbunny because the first ever soccer team was founded by English men in France.

[@namechanger4991]

Wait what?? The first ever Football team (and it still shows up if you type "soccer") is Sheffield FC, founded in England, with the 2nd oldest being Stoke City, which is also England.

[@slick_rickgaming1102]

It seems everyone is on board with Piplup and Snivy, but instead of Scorbunny I say Litten. It just seems too soon to mess with the Galar starters, Sword and Shield debuted on the Switch where megas essentially died. Whereas Alola (Litten) was the last game to have mega evolution on the last gen console. Its definitely between Scorbunny and Litten, but it just seems too early for Scorbunny.

[@bryancartagena3286]

Rowlet was in the previous generation prior to Legends Arceus so your point is moot. Scorbunny is just as likely.

[@marlin2549]

I've been looking forward to this video since the reveal! Personally hoping for one of the sprigatito lines even though using gen9 is probably pretty unlikely, but they like to do the unexpected I was also thinking that the starters could get megas instead of a regional final form or they could give 2 sets of starters like in xy

[@teno777]

Never underestimate their ability to market Charizard. Regional Charizard with dedicated Charizardite-Z.

[@binocularman23]

I think best option for what I think the story will be includes: Turtwig, Tepig, and Sobble. But I would like it best if it were Snivy, Scorbunny, Piplup

[@0rbit13]

My starter predicitions: Snivy or Chikorita (Snivy because it has so many huge connections to france, and Chikorita because Meganium has so much room to be a cool mega) Tepig because there are so many farms and Tepig genuinely looks like a farm animal and due to the agricultural problems right now in France it would make sense. Piplup because Empoleon legit has Napoleon in it's name or Sobble because Inteleon literally looks French too. Their new final evo typings: Meganium: Grass/Dragon Tepig: Fire/Steel Inteleon: Water/Electric

[@0rbit13]

I also do believe they will add the gen 1,3 and 6 starters because it just makes sense because of Hisui having the gen 4 starters but not being able to pick them.

[@BAlex2209]

Mega Meganium should be a Grass/Psychic as many of Meganium 's dex entries allude to it having psychic powers.

[@0rbit13]

@@BAlex2209 I completely agree with that, however a part Dragon type Meganium could be just as cool, like a prehistoric dinosaur which has it's venus flytrap opening out (to replace it's flower) something along the lines.

[@BAlex2209]

@@0rbit13 Are you just doing my original idea for a mega venasaur Y, since I thought the name venasaur always I imagined to a Venus flytrap with a dinosaur ( because Bulbasaur is the most overlooked kanto starter)? I always thought that if Charizard gets to megas, it's compatriots deserve it too .

[@0rbit13]

@@BAlex2209 Damn I never knew you had that idea and tbf it fits way better for it, I guess time can tell for what there idea is but assuming from X and Y I probably think we'll get regional starters and then pick one of the gen 6 starters later which have new megas 🤷‍♂

[@cofagrigusfan24]

sorry but this trio is way more likely -Snivy (based on French monarchs) -Piplup (Empoleon, Napoleon... it's super obvious) -Scorbunny (soccer/football is huge in Europe, no matter what country) also the Paldea starters make no sence, as Z-A will be a Gen 9 game, just like Scarlet & Violet

[@VANTABLACK1005]

My fav trio ideas for Legends games are Chespin,Chimchar,Mudkip Grookey,Torchic,Froakie Snivy,Scorbunny,Piplup Turtwig,Litten,Totodile Feel like trios are interesting combinations

[@Shinrius]

People forget that french animal symbol is the rooster so torchic is a good option and the most probable trio is snivy piplup and torchic all of them got the own representation of france and in on of the trailer of the dlc 2 they were close to the hisui starter in the presentation

[@GrimReaper_TTV]

The problem is torchic has a mega they won’t choose torchic

[@Shinrius]

@@GrimReaper_TTV but they could make regional variant instead of mega we don't know

[@rossjones8656]

​@@Shinriusthat's the issue. We know megas are coming back so it would make sense for it to be new megas but that doesn't really line up with how megas are portrayed with starters.

[@Shinrius]

@@rossjones8656 there is pokemon who got more than one gimmick look at charizard or even decidueye who got z move and regional form even slowbro got a mega and a regional form

[@photoo848]

Back when XY released Blaziken got its mega early. With the other gen3 starters getting theirs only in ORAS. I remember expecting Blaziken getting the Charizard treatment and getting a second mega (fire/dark to make it an evil counterpart to current M-blaziken). They could give Torchic a regional variant with its own mega

[@HawaiianIce3]

Don't forget, Chimchar was in PLA, and they probably wouldn't put 2 monkey-based starters together.

[@jackshark]

I think my favourite idea I’ve seen is to have two sets of starters, like the original XY games. First they give you the choice of Snivy, Piplup & Scorbunny, then a second choice of Chespin, Froakie & Fennekin. They’ll either give Mega evolutions to both sets, or return to the Battle Bond phenomenon for the Kalos starters and just give the new starters Mega’s.

[@Animedingo]

Its gonna be snivy, piplup and torchic

[@tiredbunnyy]

If Gamefreak made the Legends Arceus starters based off of my childhood friend's favorite Pokémon (all three were his favorite starters of their generation), then I predict that Legends Z-A will have MY favorite starters of the groups TT did here, which are Snivy/Fuecoco/Totadile, I'll cry if this is right, I don't know who I'd choose :').

[@ewormXD]

Chikorita - Tepig - Popplio Snivy - Litten - Totodile Legends: Arceus started giving Gen II, V and VII starters regional variants, I think we should finish the job before moving to the other starters. Also, the Kalos and Kanto starters will likely just be available in the wild (because the original games' starters were wild Pokémon in Hisui and the Kalos games had two trios to pick from) and the Galar starters will not be given new forms within the same generation, that's crazy. Hoenn (and again Kanto) starters might be available because of Mega Evolutions, but for the same reason, they'd have to bring them all, meaning NOT as the mixed starter selection.

[@owentate502]

Snivy and Piplup are kind of obvious choices, but we all know how the Pokemon company likes to pull a good bait-and-switch.

[@wrathfulseviper]

I think since the Hisui starters were so Japanese-esque in a heavily inspired Japanese region, the new possible starters would be heavily French-esque. Samurott was already a Japanese samurai. Hawaii has a heavy Japanese American population and was the first American state native Japanese people arrived in. So Decidueye going from a Pokémon that was already fit for cold temperatures evolving into a Pokémon that adapts to hotter temperatures probably symbolized what it was like when the Japanese first arrived in Hawaii. And Typhlosion was already a dog/bear creature that gave off ainu vibes. I want to say the first two obvious starter choices could be: Empoleon (French Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte I) Serperior (Based on Lady Oscar from the manga series The Rose of Versailles, who was a French Princess in the story) And the last fire starter could funnily enough be Charizard, (though the Charizard pandering would admittedly start to get out of hand), or an even funnier choice than Charizard, the modern fire starter of Kalos, Delphox. Charizard could be a sort of European Dragon/Dragon from French myths. And Delphox already works as a witch, which could easily be turned into a more French caricature. If not those two, since Charizard already has a manga, and still using Delphox could be weird, then the last three fire starters can only work. The others are too Japanese/Chinese, so the best bets would be Skeledirge, who can be swapped to any sort of French singing styles, or Cinderace. Not much can be thought of for Incineroar though. It also feels a little to Asian inspired.

[@guilhermereis4354]

I am certain the pokemon chosen to represent the Fire starter will be Scorbunny. All the other Fire starters have something that makes me think pokemon company would not use them. For the Water and Grass starters I am between Popplio, Piplup or Totodile and Snivy, Turtwig and Chikorita. From those I think Piplup and Snivy are the ones with the most connections to frech culture (being representations of Napoleon and Fleur-de-lis respectively). So my bet is: Snivy, Scorbunny and Piplup.

[@guilhermereis4354]

For the motives for the Fire starters: Charizard already have two megas and is present int the region of Kalos in the original game, so they will probably be catchable in the wild. Typhlosion already have a regional form and was a starter in the last Legends game. Blaziken already has a Mega. Infernape's middle stage has double typing, making a regional form more unlikely. Emboar has the same problem of Infernape. Delphox already is a starter in Kalos and probably will be catchable in the wild. Incineroar is a very powerful mon in competitive and giving him a Mega would make the game more unbalanced. Skeledirge will not gain a regional form on his own generation.

[@xBagheera]

but what if its just the gens starters but they get megas?

[@Garthebarbarian]

so glad i said rusty silver and shattered gold in the pokemon presents livestream just for ttar to say no one would buy them

[@Garthebarbarian]

You better Say sorry for this

[@BooHi]

I mean, didn't we already got them settled from the trailer? Torchic / Snivy / Piplup?

[@Mr.Freeze420]

I’m hoping for snivy, chimchar and popplio. Snivy fits kalos SOO much it’s insane because of the French stuff with it. Chimchar is here because…uhhh I don’t have reason infernape is cool ok xD. Popplio and it’s evolution line makes shows with its bubbles like contests so the popplio line could be what invented contests back in the day in this game.

[@kolbyredden8743]

It’s Litten, Totodile, and Turtwig. Remember this comment. One of the last things Khu posted was Galarian Corsola, Palafin Hero Form, and 4 mons with intimidate. Grass/Ghost Torterra, Water/Fighting Feraligatr, and Fire/Psychic Incineroar.

[@COscott13]

In the trailer when they were showing off all the starters for the Indigo Disk DLC they start the trailer off showing pairs of starters. They show Cyndaquil with Torchic, then they show Oshawott with Piplup, then they show Rowlet with Snivy. I think that was a hint that the starters for PLZA will be Torchic, Oshawott, and Snivy. I'm definitely choosing Snivy, he's my boy.

[@ashi4274]

You mean Piplup, Oshawott had gotten a form already.

[@shauryasuri3653]

Snivy scorebunny piplup looks really good

[@iggyroksmoredeeznuts1165]

I feel like a popular theory and one that makes a lot of sense due to the inspirations for their final evos is Snivy, Piplup, and Scorbunny

[@ohmygodtheykilledkenny4887]

If Grookey is the Grass starter choice, I would hope they finally give Rillaboom the rock typing it was robbed of

[@harvey2574]

If Megas are returning, it would make sense to include all Pokémon that can Mega Evolve such as, both the Kanto and Hoenn Starters for their final forms

[@lyconxero457]

I kind of doubt that Game Freak would go through the trouble of making both regional variants AND mega evolutions in the same game. I also highly doubt that EVERY single Pokémon with a mega evolution will be featured in Legends Z-A if PLA is the example. There's 242 Pokémon in the PLA Pokedex and considering that this game will take place ENTIRELY inside of Lumiose City, I think that expecting more than 200-250 Pokémon overall would be crazy (I could see the game actually only having like 150-200 like in each of the PSV DLCs). If we assume that they'll give whatever starter Pokémon that they go with mega evolutions I think that'll be enough and also by not tying said mega evolutions to a special form of that Pokémon it makes it far more likely that those Pokémon could pop up again in another game that features mega evolution such as the inevitable X&Y remakes that are likely a decade or so away. They could even use mega evolutions again in a new Let's Go game as unlike dynamax and terastalizing you don't need to be in a specific region to mega evolve and instead just need the stones.

[@RicardodaSilvaRdS]

Snivy and Piplup are such obvious choices that I'm scared they won't be chosen. They really deserve that attention 😢

[@Miku_Nakano-_-]

A French KZbinr ( @HariPKMN )relayed something : The trailer for the Indigo Disk showing the returning starters actually starts with the 3 PLA starters and 3 others ( Torchic, Piplup and Snivy ). Maybe teasing the new trio. Torchic represents mthe mascot of France Piplup -> Empoleon represents Napoleon Snivy represents the Lys flower, symbol of Monarchs

[@clairelauseng2593]

I think the starts for Pokémon Legends Z-A will be: Timber, Geodude and Fletching. (Timber for construction) (Geodude for demolition) (Fletching for welding and air lifting large weights)

[@tscream80]

Much as the Hisui starters had some connection to the region they were based on (Ezo/Hokkaido), it's extremely likely that the Z-A starters will have ties to the region Kalos is based on (in this case, France). The ones I've seen speculated to be the most likely choices are Snivy (as it's based on French nobility), Piplup (considering its final evolution, Empoleon, is based on Napoleon Bonaparte), and either Torchic (tying in with France's national symbol, the Gallic Rooster) or Scorbunny (due to its ties of being a soccer player). I personally do not think the Paldean starters will be included, considering Legends Arceus did not include the Galarian starters.