Starting again. Panther and sidecar trial and tribulation.

[@markwybierala4936]

I might see an antique classic maybe once every five years or so. I love the sound of my Harley Sportster but the sound of one of these old classics is so much more endearing. You can hear all of the magic.

[@LemayNelson]

I LOVE TGE OLD BRITISH. BIKES THERE TEMPERAMENT AND SPLENDOR. IM OLDER NOW BUT I STILL LIKE TO HEAR THEM RUN. I WISH I HAD ONE TO FONDLE. LEMAY. NELSON. VANCOUVER WASHINGTON PACIFIC NORTHWEST U S A. GOOD SHOW. BUB.

[@kevindaly5093]

All challenges aside, top marks to the missus for her crystal clear delivery of the directions. Always enjoyable. Thank you.

[@roberthocking9138]

As always beautifully narrated. I could just close my eyes and listen to the audio and I could completely understand what you were doing. What a wonderful outfit, a credit to you

[@markstuckey6225]

Thank you so much for posting this. I lie here on the sofa, on the other side of the world, with a gentle vernal day with the sweet aromas of Persephone outside the window, recovering from major surgery. The BSA's (and I suppose the Triumph) impatiently waiting in the shed. But I can vicariously enjoy a leisurely trip in your sceptered isle. It's nice to hear your gentle musings and the lucid, Angelic directions of your other half. 39:05 Also in years past "an involuntary stop" was a social occasion, as other riders would stop to offer assistance: technical, moral, tool, or otherwise.

[@Phiyedough]

I watch quite a few American KZbin videos so it makes a refreshing change to hear someone speak clearly! Bike sounds lovely too!

[@kenpage1107]

Thanks for that trip down memory lane, I enjoy your journeys on those wonderful machines, cheers from Oz.

[@frankboff8185]

What a superb video, thanks for sharing.

[@stephencroft6481]

Thanks for the video i always enjoy them.

[@michaelrandle4128]

Always look forward to your videos, thank you for taking the time and effort to post them,

[@mikedall9527]

Absolutely wonderful.....as usual. Thank you .

[@alanalan13]

Brings back a lot of memories of the 60s thank you

[@stephensmith1118]

thanks for the virtual Panther 110 ride, it was great to see the English country roads, with the Panthers musical accompaniment... i have piloted sidecar outfits down similar and maybe the same roads, best thing about the sidecar is enables great control on ice and snow... and the workout was great.... have fun... so you have a sat nav... ( sat in the sidecar ! )...

[@jjrider6758]

There's nowt so frustrating and infuriating as a bike that won't start, no matter what you do.. and nowt so wonderful and soothing as a bike that does.. The Panther seems to be running pretty well at last, one of the enduring unsolved mysteries of British bikes is that sometimes problems just seem to solve themselves, seemingly without any relevant input from their owner.. well at least they do until they decide to pack up again !! - Great video as always.. 👍

[@turboslag]

Reminds me of a similar experience I had back in June this year. I had finally revived my Velo Viper, vintage 1967, after too many years of slumber after a full rebuild, let's just say life got in the way. I spent 3 or 4 months prior to it's revival bringing electrics back to life, changing oils, checking stuff, fitting a new monoblock, changing to led lights, still 6v though. So eventually, the day comes and it starts 3rd kick quick puff of black smoke, tweek the idle and it sounds perfect! I was elated that after almost 30 years it started so easily and ran so well. So I had a few rides, it needed a few tweeks, but still ran really well. Then, one hot June afternoon, on a straight and level road, at about 40-45mph, it started to slow, changed down, it slowed more quickly, so I pulled oer and as soon as the clutch was pulled it stopped dead, it had nipped up! There was vapour pouring out of the drive side main bearing area, not smoke exactly, just heavy vapour. Still not sure what that was. After a minute or so I put it in first and rocked it backwards which freed it off, and it started first kick! Rode slowly back home, garaged it and went off in a huff! Several days later I'd bought an endscope camera thingy, which I'd been intending to buy for a while, checked down the plug hole and bingo, heavy scuff marking on the thrust side of the bore, rear side had some slight scuffing. So, now I'm wondering why his happened, the carb is brand new and all settings are factory, the plug looked fine, nice mid brown colour, timing is correct, etc, etc. I'm inclined to think the piston to bore clearance was too small, and this is the only thing I don't have a number on. I had the barrel bored to suit a new Omega std size piston, but I never got the actual clearance he used. I haven't touched it since, I decided to pull it down next march or so, giving me time to find a good barrel, Viper types are quite rare, not available new, unlike the Venom, and gather all the necessary bits. One thing is certain, I'll be paying close attention to that clearance this time! Anyway, thinking about your Panthers starting issue, I'm inclined to think magneto. My Viper and Matchless exhibited exactly your symptoms at one time and a professional mag overhaul cured them completely and made them a joy to start. Really enjoy your vids, thankyou, and they have inspired me to look for a Panther, the 120 appeals!

[@williamnethercott4364]

A pleasure to watch and listen to, as ever.

[@randyroy4074]

I'm only into eleven minutes but before continuing want to thank you for the video. Don't have a Panther only Guzzis and old Honda's but your an inspiration to listen to.

[@8025125]

Oh JJ this summer I have walked in your shoes, my Model 100 developed a bad case of no start itus. The hot start but not cold with cold start but not hot syndrome was right there. I went on a club visit to a public event and after a very brief stop for the organisers to get their act together it refused to start, after several hours of fruitless kicking, big Norrie put his hand on my shoulder and said enough old man you are going to do yourself a mischief. I have done the carb, had the Mag to bits and loads of other things, and tried a Brisk plug and finally got it to start reliably, but you are right you loose faith with the bike and it takes some getting back. Brilliant video, bye the way, please keep them coming, always a joy.

[@nick949eldo]

"Better to travel hopefully, than to arrive..." I may have to steal that 😁, as it's always the way I feel when I'm travelling on my Eldorado. Excellent again JJ. I followed along with you, tracing your progress on my digital 1:50,000s on my phone.

[@IanLawrie-l9q]

Wonderful to hear the good companion and navigator deliver instructions, I am most envious of the doubtless feeling of security and confidence in unknown places 👍👌👏

[@raythirkettle4155]

Yep…those plugs help our old clunkers…good old fashioned post-Soviet technology !

[@piearm1271]

An excellent film. Ah the vagaries of the vintage. Like a manual 35mm slr it’s often a mystery as to why the same settings result in a different outcome yet the joy of mastering them and having that picture no one else captured. I’m wondering if more modern fuels lack the volatile element so needed for an engine cold kick. Ford sierra engines on unleaded needed a slightly wider plug gap to get a reliable start and no pinking under load. I have no doubt you will resolve the minor issue. As an avid sidecar rider I am amused by your comments regards shoulder exercise. It’s a rare art and one that takes a few rides to understand and a lifetime to become a master. Once you learn that throttle acts like power steering it becomes addictive and always a learning experience. I find the look on peoples faces refreshing. From the wistful looks of those that know to the bemused looks of those that don’t and the grins of others. If I can make people smile I’ll have lived a worthwhile life. Keep on with the excellent work.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

Dad says his Panther outfit used to suffer from vapor lock up one particularly long hill here in summertime Australia. Exact same queue of cars behind honking their horns. That carb is right behind and attached to a super hot cast iron cylinder and head. Maybe Yorkshire is always like an icebox.😂 And long hot uphill is outside it's design parameters.

[@rainbowmat8204]

Interesting work sir

[@borderlands6606]

In the terrace streets where I grew up, a few hardy types kept motorcycles long after their neighbours had acquired small second-hand cars. These were exclusively British solos or combinations of some vintage, and their owners had an asymmetric relationship with machines on which they depended for daily transport. They tweaked and tickled every time they wanted to ride them, and plenty of times they didn't. If the Ariel or a BSA had been human, it would have been called passive aggressive. Or perhaps bipolar, sometimes returning the kickstarter with interest. Other times purring like an over-indulged domestic cat, or sullen and disinterested for no apparent reason. Love is blind.

[@motophoenix5951]

A conundrum if ever there was one. Running out of puff on that hilly part would have had me looking for crap in the carb and/or a partially blocked jet. Nevertheless, it is another very entertaining video. Thanks, as ever, for posting.

[@redtobertshateshandles]

Vapour lock. Used to be common here in Australia in summer, up big hills.

[@jimhem7084]

Lovely video as usual. I bought 2 wassel carbs 2 years ago for my bonnie. I spent a year chasing coils, spark plugs, timing etc. messed with the carbs forever. Bought 2 new Amal concentrics and irratic running disappeared to first kick reliabiy of previous times. Apparently the wassells have got worse as tooling for production have got older. Choose another carb.

[@MrBeracah]

J would appreciate I walk round video if you outfit as it looks class. Thks

[@terryjones6229]

Thank you for another really enjoyable video and for sharing your thought process to solve a challenge. I didn’t realise you were filming on the Summer Saunter else it’d have donated some clips. Got a really nice one of you arriving at the start point. Next time perhaps. I too ‘enjoyed’ an unscheduled stop on the return when my headlight fell off. Luckily I stopped and captured all the parts before they hit the ground!

[@jonathanjones9790]

Thanks Terry. Sometimes the problems we encounter make for greater interest, as shown in the high drama of your April Showers Run video.

[@baz1086]

I noticed when you were changing your main jet at the beginning that the sleeve nut that holds the needle jet and main jet was the short type Usually on a 4stroke concentric it's the long type I doubt this would make any difference to starting? But the short nut would be holding the main jet higher in the fuel And I think uses a different length needle and needle jet?

[@MrBeracah]

What is Rogers bike please? Thank you

[@redtobertshateshandles]

Suzuki SV, I believe. Looks OK in red.

[@michaeljackson5914]

Nice

[@mikedench]

Clutch slip perhaps? Could explain starting problem and power loss, maybe oil on plates.

[@PantherOwnersClub1]

A worthy suggestion @user. I should create a list of the many reasons why old machinery may fail to start. In this case it appears to have been an intermittent magneto issue, now resolved.

[@v10centauro1]

How do you - pencil a spark plug ? ?? And that plug shows a very rich carb or it is just to cool a plug . I had to go to a very hot plug ( Champion L-92 and hotter yet L-95 ) two very hot plugs for sure . For I am still trying to get jetting and timing right and don't need the plug fouling .

[@BobSmith-ly2zs]

If concentric cab has standard 3 cutaway change it to 3.5. Best 17 quid i ever spent on bike. ALSO FIT THORSPARK.

[@rainbowmat8204]

Sir is it difficult to drive a motorcycle with a side car?