New ‘Return of the Jedi’ footage CHANGES Darth Vader

Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - Deleted Scene
Darth Vader vs Luke Skywalker - Extended Duel
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[@StarWarsAnalyst]

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[@greedo1228]

Do your sabers have tip drag effect?

[@davidpinker459]

I see you flexing that gym progress 😂 😂better keep training boi

[@jeremiah6462]

I love it when idiots recognize Disney's garbage as canon...

[@RetroReAX]

The word is Cauterized 😂😂😂😂😂

[@spencerwhite3619]

Hahahaha I came here to say this!

[@tehawfulestface1337]

WHEW! I thought THAT was the ‘deleted’ thing he was referring to!

[@RatSewage]

Or dismembered....

[@brianh9358]

I was like what? That would have been some really weird missing footage...

[@Mustgtcs07]

I was wondering if I missed something when I watched the original films, like 100 times!!!

[@gdkopinionator4356]

When they choreographed the Vader/Luke fight in ROTJ, there was no moment when Luke did not have the advantage. In the novelization, Vader becomes afraid not only of Luke's raw power, but of Luke's speed which is beyond his own. The original salvo of blows was edited out of the movie because Lucas/Marquand considered it to be too vicious, and made the fight's conclusion too obvious. The key difference between Vader and Luke was not necessarily Dark/Light, but Vader's self-hate v. Luke's intuitive and forgiving relationship with life. Watch all of the Lucas movies. There are scenes when both apologize for things they have done, or attempt to empathize with people who are suffering. Anakin always seems to be insincere (except with his mother), while Luke seems genuine. The novelization even hints that the moment Anakin returned was when Luke didn't kill him. When Vader seizes the Emperor, there is text that he had been gathering his strength and waiting for the right moment to intervene. This was all due to a final lesson which Luke taught him. Accept things, and move on. It's never too late to make the right choice. Until that point, Vader was just compounding the mistakes he had made when he turned...

[@screechingonions2365]

I’m not reading all of that crap

[@thomasthetank827]

Good thing that's different within the new canon timeline.

[@ProfessorTravis]

Conclusion: Authoritarians suck at anything analytical. If he had just sat down and actually listened to philosophy or even an economist, he could have understood the sunk cost fallacy that was his life. /s

[@gdkopinionator4356]

@@thomasthetank827 How?

[@gdkopinionator4356]

@@screechingonions2365 but you took time to reply?

[@c.s.i.inamerica2420]

"castrated" I don't think that means what you think it does...

[@mikecollins6405]

It doesn't JUST mean removing the testicles. It also means to deprive someone of power. THAT completely happened. Vader removed Luke's power. Vader castrated Luke.

[@mikecollins6405]

​@@georgericher3996from the Oxford Dictionary: cas·trate  verb past tense: castrated; past participle: castrated remove the testicles of (a male animal or man). deprive of power, vitality, or vigor. "the nation is a castrated giant, afraid to really punish subversives"

[@mikecollins6405]

​@@georgericher3996maybe YOU need to read the definition.

[@mikecollins6405]

@@georgericher3996 from Oxford Dictionary: cas·trate  verb past tense: castrated; past participle: castrated remove the testicles of (a male animal or man). deprive of power, vitality, or vigor. "the nation is a castrated giant, afraid to really punish subversives"

[@readingbetweentheframes]

You just reaffirmed why lukes second saber is so important and unique in the story of the orginal trilogy. It is symbolic of the journey from boy to man and the tranformation of Luke into his own person.

[@michaelmccandless1280]

When Rei gives Luke his lightsaber back, it's actually the blue one that he lost to Vader. That's why he carelessly tossed it aside.

[@ziephel-6780]

@@michaelmccandless1280 I kind of wish that was given a bit more context, maybe him saying: "This isn't really mine" Of course, it's better to show than tell, but TLJ had high expectations to live up to, which it failed to match at the time, plenty of Star Wars fans were looking for some nit-picking. I doubt the writers of TLJ thought very far ahead for the intro scene like you though. They just decided it because: "Let's subvert some expectations because why not"

[@steveb6718]

just too bad Eps 7,8 and 9 are total dogshit

[@bradwhite5884]

​@@michaelmccandless1280 Instead of tossing the lightsaber over his shoulder, he should give it a good look at it and reminiscent at what it means to him, especially since he lost it with his fight and should be a key for him to return to the fight instead of just sit on a deserted island on a planet away from anyone else like a coward, should be what I said, him conflicted but willing to train Rey, say that he would train her but won't help the fight as Rey try slowly and surely trying to bring Luke to his senses, also instead of Luke trying to kill Ben in the flashbacks, he tries to help him but the Darkside has a big pull on Ben, what Rian Johnson did was bad and made for humour or whatever, but it came off disrespectful and such, but from what I said sounds like what meant to happen, what J J Abrams was meant to do with the second sequel movie before Rian threw that out and made his own, so yeah

[@mattrismatt]

@@bradwhite5884 I'm sure Luke did reminisce about what it meant to him: a terrible memory, including the loss of his hand. After what happened to him, why should Luke have wanted to return to the fight? Why would he have been "conflicted" to train Rey? Why should he have instructed her, especially after sensing her "raw strength" and pull to the dark? Luke didn't try to kill Ben. He reacted out of "pure instinct", just like his violent reaction to Vader threatening to turn Leia to the dark side. But in both instances, Luke stopped short. How was TLJ's portrayal of Luke "disrespectful" to his character? What do you think JJ Abrams was meant to do with the second sequel movie? At the time, JJ literally said that what Rian Johnson did was 'very much in line with what he had in mind'... and was the films Executive Producer.

[@Sindraug25]

Hmm... Luke being castrated must have been a deleted scene.

[@galenjoyce8895]

Thankfully.

[@BlacKnightRising]

nah, he just used the wrong word is all

[@jeffanderson8165]

He lost something that was long and stick-like which, (due to it being a super bright color) might make someone go blind if they play with it in their hand too long.

[@notmyrealname6150]

That'll teach him not to kiss his sister. 😁

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

Legends Like DID reach his full potential, becoming twice as powerful as the Emperor and being the most potent Jedi in history.

[@CD-Freedom]

Which books display this?

[@ezclappoggers]

he literally became part of the force, while being alive

[@agentofchaos7198]

@@CD-Freedom Well his strongest display would be either in fate of the jedi or legacy of the force

[@CD-Freedom]

@@agentofchaos7198 What about in the New Jedi Order?

[@agentofchaos7198]

@@CD-Freedom yes, but not to the same extent as the later series, new jedi order was primarily to highlight the growth of the new generation.

[@7thwheel]

But the Disney Sequels are just bad fan fiction written by people who weren't fans.

[@geg_otmopo3]

Facts

[@shpingalet7895]

It's not even a 'fan fiction' - it's a commercial, ugly and dumb. The disney never wanted the Lucasfilm for the ideas or storytelling. They wanted the StarWars to make money. They thought that it was not about Lucas - it was about the robots and wookies and ewoks... and the merchandise... Freaking freaks. The VII-IX are disaster...

[@DS-tr6xn]

True that

[@CBRHurricane6]

Nope, Disney owns the rights and all, they’re canon Grow up

[@0wolabi97]

How do you feel about the death star 2 ruins in episode 9?

[@RA10H56]

Man I was 6 when jedi came out and I still remember the cheers when he ignited the green saber

[@mattneal5257]

I was 9. I still remember the cheers when Vader threw Palestine down the shaft

[@WdnUlik2no]

I was 6 too!

[@RA10H56]

@@WdnUlik2nosome of the best times!

[@RRL110]

I was 18. lol

[@RA10H56]

@RRL110 even better! You were 12 when the original came out!

[@ralpho37]

Luke was castrated….? I don’t think that word means what you think it means.

[@0biwan7]

that would be inconceivable

[@kekistanifreedomfighter4197]

In the storytelling sense. A warrior rendered impotent by the loss of his weapon and dueling hand at his moment of defeat.

[@lucid1934]

It’s a metaphor, homie.

[@Dust_kormoi]

I was five years old in 1983 when ROTJ hit theaters. Some pictures in some books I had showed Luke's saber as blue. When Luke ignited his saber on the skiff, revealing a green blade, that was a another level of coolness at the time.

[@d0ctar_693]

2:28 That's why you here

[@mdsf01]

The depth of the Star Wars movies, particularly 1 thru 6, never ceases to amaze me. I never made the connection with the signifcance of the different light sabers. Thank you!

[@jetuber]

I definitely prefer the more distant angle of the deleted scene to the closer shot that's in the film, as the farther perspective makes the duel clearer. However, the sequence doesn't seem to be entirely successful, at least in this take, as there are moments when Luke is merely stopping his sword for no reason without Vader blocking it. They're not matching movements.. The choreography definitely got much tighter by the time of Phantom Menace.

[@detroitcoffeeartdetroit6502]

Watching the scene over the years I always thought the dual was too short after it moved out from user the platform. The noticeable issue is that there was so much distance to cover between there and the bridge.

[@M.Kutrzeba]

@@detroitcoffeeartdetroit6502I also enjoy longer takes (in any films with fight scenes as well), here it clarifies to me why Vader helplessly just put his hand aside, for me it looked weird on original, like "Okay, now cut my hand", in this deleted scene we can see how Luke hit his lightsaber to create such opening. Plus, as jetuber mentioned, fight is very vicious, I think it suits much much better 'cause it shows the Luke anger, what make his mercy even greater.

[@justinezafra]

Luke got castrated? 😮 I missed that part.

[@galenjoyce8895]

So did I.

[@ProfD-UCF]

He probably means ‘maimed’

[@BlacKnightRising]

think he meant Luke got his hand 'amputated' unless he doesn't know what 'castrated' means so...

[@arekpetrosian4965]

Was looking for this comment...LOL

[@escalus84]

amputated

[@nightwing369]

"Could have grew"? - "Could have *grown* "

[@arekpetrosian4965]

I was wondering if anyone else was going to comment on that.

[@blutomindpretzel1735]

you're right about Luke in the sequels...he should have been the badass that we know from the books and such. Luke was definitely stronger, because he did not fall prey to the Darkside temptation. Not until Mara Jade was killed, anyway And the suit inhibited Vader's speed, really

[@dianewilliams1125]

I'm glad your referenced Mara Jade. All the newer stuff is so not according to the books!

[@clark85]

the disney trilogy werent sequels as it was far too long in Luke's journey that he was unrecognizable. Explaining that departure instead of showing it in a trilogy of its own hurt the story arc so much it made no sense

[@Phantom-hy2ix]

​@@clark85it made perfect sense. Luke giving up on everything, the Force, his friends and so on was logical for him to become a recluse and hide in shame. See I never read the books or comics, but the film's made sense as a whole, and they are more canon than the novel's.

[@doctordalek4262]

Disney killed Luke.

[@AnakinSkywalker_th3Ch0s3n0n3]

Fr

[@alexestrella2491]

Yeah :(

[@e.s.l5861]

They killed the whole franchise

[@minermike61]

Disney killed Disney and what little good there ever was. Maybe not that much. When you really scrutinize them, there has alway been things that shouldn’t be

[@AnakinSkywalker_th3Ch0s3n0n3]

@@e.s.l5861 so true I’m not even excited for the next 3 movies and series

[@CBDBnoho]

That deleted clip with Luke smacking Vader in the head then doing the flip, all of that looks closer to the prequel trilogy combat. Wish they kept it AND all the hits he got in towards the end of the duel. Still…. ROTJ end fight is iconic as is.

[@luisr6594]

2:13 that’s a miss use of the word castrated, I think what you mean to say is dismemberment, maim, amputate, anatomize, mutilate, disjoint, dismount, or sever. “I do not think that word means what you think it means” - Indigo Montoya

[@cptsteele91]

He was metaphorically castrated, he's a warrior that wields a sword and lost his sword wielding hand, it is an appropriate use.

[@preythemantis5731]

Or ,"cauterized"

[@CarlosLopez-iy6jr]

There’s also a scene that was cut when Vader is looking for Luke after knocking him down from the platform he finds Luke’s saber cuz he dropped and when he’s tempting him about turning leia to the darkside he’s holding Luke’s lightsaber while his lightsaber is on his waist when looks yells at him he force grabs his lightsaber from vaders grip

[@GrandAdmThrawn]

He has become the most powerful Jedi ever. It's in the Expanded Universe, the only canon that we need. disney and kk can GFT.

[@esotericsage6914]

Amen.

[@wiloply]

Kind of demonstrates lukes lack of formal training with all the irratic swings. He is fighting based on instincts and emotions. Almost like sometimes when you button mash in a game, it throws off the "better" opponent because theyre not used to dealing with the movements.

[@checkoffgames]

Not even slightly. Poor technique makes it EASIER for a professional to beat you in a sword fight.

[@Jonathan-A.C.]

It’s more than just erratic, it’s that he otherwise had elements that gain him the upper hand over Vader. If it was just skill vs skill, he’d lose

[@godphoenix66x]

​@checkoffgames yeah what is that guy talking about? THAT'S NOT HOW THE FORCE WORKS 😂😂

[@davidp3837]

I feel like everyone discounts how strong Luke had to be to do what he did successfully in The Last Jedi. I don't love how he was handled, but we haven't seen anyone in canon other than maybe Anakin do anything that powerful.

[@DallanRichey]

The Last Jedi is trash

[@davidp3837]

@@DallanRichey Okay

[@DallanRichey]

@@davidp3837 😂

[@Hal-uq5qv]

Before KOTOR, i always thought the green colored saber meant it symbolized Yoda. And that everything Luke was taught by him was the ultimate honor FOR his master. Imagine the Emperor's surprise when Luke's hilt was ignited seeing the green putting two and two together and thinking at that moment if Yoda had taught Luke somehow.

[@Pralyth]

The way I always read it was that Vader's connection with the force was weak due to his conflict of having to fight his own son, which is why he was so easily defeated. It was never confirmed one way or the other, but I find it hard to believe how someone with only 1 year of real training could become as strong as Vader, who was confirmed stronger than Obi Wan.

[@mechanwhal6590]

Imagine having to duel your only chance at defeating the man behind your ruin. In front of him. Oh, and said chance happens to be your son. Oh, and you’re such a literal mess inside that Grievous looks positively healthy in comparison.

[@jordannaser9549]

He was definitely conflicted but it is also meant to emphasize that Luke has become so much better

[@borrago]

It was longer than 1 year between episode 4 and 5 and longer than a year between episode 5 and 6.

[@Sandlund93]

This was also back in the day when George considered Vader a weak cyborg and Ben an old man. Which is why he wanted to show their "prime" in the prequels. Well, Episode 4 Obi-Wan is clearly stronger than Episode 3 Obi-Wan, since he was able to become a Force Ghost at that point. He never cut himself off from the Force, as Disney suggests. He had 19 years of training with Force Ghost Qui-Gon. And Vader might have been 40% of his potential, because of the injuries from Episode 3, but he was still one of the most powerful Force-sensitives in galactic history. He should have been 200% of Sheev but ended up 80% of Sheev, hence 40% of his own potential. It's just that the franchise is so much bigger now. And old Force-sensitives becoming weak contradict the powers of both Yoda and Sheev. If anything, you peak at old age. So, Luke should have lost bigtime. The only explanation is that Vader didn't want to kill him, even as a Sith Lord. Because he needed Luke to help him overthrow Sheev. It might also have been a gradual turn to the light, which means that the love for his son might have eclipsed using him as a tool by the end. Vader was trapped between a rock and a hard place, basically. Killing Luke would have been the ultimate defeat and gained him nothing. Neither as a Sith nor a Jedi.

[@poknberry5795]

Exactly. His powers come from rage. But he loved his son. That's why Luke was in a unique position to be the only jedi who could ever defeat Vader. The advantage he had over Obi wan and Ahsoka. He could deny his love for them, but he could not deny his love for his children. Furthermore, Anakin's transition to the dark side, and to becoming Vader, was solidified with the death of Padme. The only thing in the galaxy he cared about was dead. But finding out that a piece of her, her children, was still alive weakened his connection to the dark side. Because it was directly tied to the thing that made his connection so strong in the first place.

[@RealBillyGarcia]

Loved the deleted scenes. Great video once again. 👍

[@rsxmaster]

I always love how people try making the "holding back" excuse for Vader even though Luke was holding back just as much if not more, directly stating he didn't want to fight. Not to mention if Vader was actually holding back, I doubt he would've tried killing Luke twice in their duel.

[@drksideofthewal]

Vader fanboys are worse than Batman fanboys. I’ve seen people unironically say that Vader was stronger than Sidious.

[@ferociousrazordino3581]

​@@drksideofthewalI've seen vader fanboys say he can solo the jedi council

[@drksideofthewal]

@@ferociousrazordino3581 He's not getting past Windu

[@thomasthetank827]

@drksideofthewal Disney canon Vader is absolutely conflicted and nerfed specifically against his son Disney has shown this time and time again. Vader was getting hit by Padmes handmaindens, and couldn't kill them based on this conflict If there was no tie to luke, his son, canon rotj luke gets crushed 100 percent.

[@thomasthetank827]

@@drksideofthewal he still beats windu, unless we are talking early, early Vader. Kirak Infila defeating Vader is essentially what it would look like.

[@chadj.harwood509]

RBG…Red Blue and Green are all primary colors. Combined they make a broad array of colors. Perhaps it symbolizes Lukes struggle between the two sides of the force.

[@StarWarsAnalyst]

Where did you go to Kindergarten? Red and blue make purple

[@LeighMet]

Also green is not a primary color

[@kennethwright1738]

Chadj is correct. I'll let "Google" be my response as to why these replies are incorrect.

[@mapsgoonthewall5396]

I want to say it the green lightsaber source was in "from star wars to jedi" documentary back in the day.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

I'd have to try and find my copy on DVD of that but it was also mentioned in articles found in SyFy magazines like Starlog during the 80s as well.

[@jetbricksstudios5530]

This was just a 3minute ad 😭

[@heebiejeebies4625]

People often misinterpret Anakin's prophesy of being the chosen one as being the strongest character in Star Wars. When in reality it's that he had the POTENTIAL to be so. This has been explained numerous times that once he became machine his midichlorian count was seriously reduced, yet a lot of newer fans don't seem to understand this. His prophesy of restoring balance to the force was always true, but he only did so by becoming vader and betraying the emperor in the end, not because he was the strongest by that point. When he became Vader he had lost all that great unfortold power he would have had if he matured more as Anakin. As vader, he remained more or less the same in terms of power as when he was Anakin. The dark side brought power, but his suit impaired a lot of things, most importantly further growth. While Anakin is a great character, his greatness as a character is from his writing, and like Hayden Christensen says, his character is actually supposed to be kind of pathetic. While I'm aware that Vader could have killed Luke in ROTJ if he tried, my point is still the same overall.

[@kenm2709]

I can’t believe this entire video was just an ad, shame on you

[@StarWarsAnalyst]

How?

[@sonnywoods6846]

I wish they would have kept those extra scenes in the movie. hat would have made the fight even more awesome especially Luke Flipping around while fighting

[@literatelycan4239]

I think there is a huge difference between being the chosen one and being the most powerful. Anakin was powerful, just like Yoda, just like Mace. Through the ages, there have no doubt been a number of very, very powerful force users - just some never realized their full potential through training. And even less powerful force users, with the right level of training and dedication, might present a formidable opponent when using the lightsaber or their force powers. The Jedi had a prophecy of a chosen one who would bring balance to the force - doesn’t mean the chosen one is going to be the “most powerful”. I think we like to put that level of importance on our heroes and villains. It makes good story telling. But there isn’t any reason to believe that Luke couldn’t rise to the level of skill and ability of Vader - especially considering no matter how powerful Anakin might have been, he was still hindered by his injuries and the suit (as you indicate in the video). I wholeheartedly agree that the Luke at the end of ROTJ would never have fallen so far as we see in the most recent trilogy. Bad fan fiction by children who probably never watched the original movies nor bothered to read any books.

[@sandrothenecromancer6810]

He did become in better times...in legends

[@warpdriveby]

At the time, and I do remember this clearly is that it was green to make 100% clear that Luke had gained the abilities of a full Jedi Knight, and to indicate he was going to do things differently than Anakin/Vader had. I mean no condescension here, but I see young(er) (not becase age matters, it's the context) fans make is to assume that Lucas had any idea what the next film was going to be about when he shot Star Wars: A New Hope! Darth Vader wasn't yet Anakin Skywalker nor Luke's father! Saying things like "he does x because y" is absurd if you don't first clearly think that EVERYTHING is how it is because Lucas and/or other creators CHOSE it to serve the story! I just see this stuff as people getting lost because they try to make Star Wars consistent or logical as is done in Sci-Fi, instead of understanding that it is a Fantasy piece set in space!

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Lucas ret conned a few things both behind the scenes and online. But they definitely changed the color of the blade because it didn't show up well against the blue sky when doing the Sarlacc Pitt fight.

[@warpdriveby]

@@ashleighelizabeth5916 and I do remember this clearly... "we all figured the idea is...". I clipped that off, and was trying to say I clearly remembered what we as kids assumed the reasoning was. You are correct as far as I can tell about the lightsaber color, but in terms of story, Vader was neither Anakin a former Jedi, nor Luke's father, and was actually named Darth Vader, rather than that being a Sith title/nom de guerre.

[@thephantomfanboy]

It’s well documented that they had issues rotoscoping the blue saber to the sky. What a newb.

[@StarWarsAnalyst]

Where?

[@thephantomfanboy]

I don’t have the links to hand- but will send them when I cross paths. The Kenner 1983 Luke Jedi figure has a blue saber until it was changed. This is easier to research

[@yarnvials5874]

@@StarWarsAnalyst My old 1980s era SW mags and such are in storage, but if memory serves, the first time I heard this anecdote was in Starlog's Star Wars 10th Anniversary issue (Starlog No. 120 - July 1987). A 15-page section called “Starlog Salutes Star Wars” features mini-excerpts of Star Wars articles from previous issues of the magazine, illustrated with lots of great photos (including Han Solo arguing with a pre-digitized Jabba the Hutt)

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

@@yarnvials5874 it was definitely mentioned in Starlog Magazine but it was also mentioned in one of the episodes that came out in 83 around the time of ROTJ being released as well. These kids today assume that if they can't find it on the internet or in something published during the last decade or two that it doesn't exist.

[@benjaminkenobi21]

It's a way simpler explanation and most likely the true reason it's green.... the blue sky background of the sail barge battle. That reasoning is way more compelling than anything I saw in this video.

[@bookemdano7567]

I had read, after ROTJ came out, that the reason Luke’s lightsaber is blue on the poster art was because Lucas wanted the green color to be a surprise when Luke ignites it for the first time after R2 shoots it off to him.

[@markward9331]

God, I wish they had left that footage in. Thank you for sharing that

[@jsmitty2047]

Actually Luke did reach that potential...Disney Wars does not count...

[@freespirit5466]

Agreed. Granted Luke momentarily loses it during the final fight with Vader, and that scene is truly chilling to watch, but Luke recovers himself after realizing he is, as Palpatine says, one step away from taking Vaders place.

[@douglasj2254]

Great video. Allow me to share a little gripe.... I would suggest, to the host and many of his fans, that if you have a great interest in lightsabers, swords and sword fighting, that you find a good fencing club and take some actual fencing lessons. It's one thing to watch a few Star Wars movies and talk about technique, stamina of the fighters, etc. But it's quite another to actually stand on the fencing strip, covered with sweat, and have to figure out the best defense against your opponent in less than the one second it takes for him to close the distance and strike you! Please don't take this as an insult but as encouragement. If you are physically able, try fencing and do some (almost) real sword fighting! You'll also get in great shape. (Yes, I am a fencer myself and have competed in a few tournaments, so I practice what I preach. Star Wars and the Three Musketeers got me interested in fencing many years ago!) 😃

[@MegaClubVideocon]

The saber color was changed because Lucas removed the scene where Luke built his new one and he wanted to MAKE SURE that people knew it was a diffrent one. So people can have the theories they want, when the guy who wrote the movie tells you why he changed it, that's the answer

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Lucas has ret conned more than a few lore and behind the scenes details over the years. Don't assume that just because he said it 10 years later that's why the decision was made way back in the early 80s.

[@dannydelanoent.]

Luke is the growing most powerful Jedi that ever lived pre 1999 phantom menace retconning from Lucas. He was the center of the story until the prequels changed everything

[@matthewmohri9990]

Your first mistake you put faith in what "Disney" said...

[@likeluptid]

I think there might be a little bit of confusion here. Anakin is literally a son of the Force. The Force is literally his father. He would have therefore been the most powerful Force user that ever lived because the Force gave him his life. His potential wasn't limited by the life support system that he wore as Darth Vader. That's why the people who didn't like The Phantom Menace didn't say enough attention to it to understand the lore. The miti-chlorians in a person's blood connected him to the Force, and Anakin had a LOT of it in him. But his arms and legs were amputated, and THAT is what clipped his connection to the Force. Miti-chlorians don't exist in bionic arms and legs. Luke's parents are both human, and his connection to the Force can't be as strong as Anakin's. In Return of the Jedi, Luke's power was equal only to Anakin's very greatly diminished power. Vader's success at this time was only because there was no Jedi Order to stop him, and that Order would have EASILY put Vader down if it was still around. Obi-Wan Kenobi's power was greater than Vader's, for example, which is why Vader was always unable to defend himself against Kenobi, even on the day that Kenobi threw his duel with Vader for Luke's sake. In Return of the Jedi, when Luke's power was equal to Vader's diminished power, both were still MUCH LESS POWERFUL than Kenobi was when he gave up his life.

[@sergioaccioly5219]

I neverthought Luke tapped into theDark Side to defeat Vader. He simply stopped holding back.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

It was pretty clear that he overpowered Vader by tapping into the Dark Side. It was only when he heard Palpatine laugh because of that fact that he came back to himself and realized that he was in danger of becoming just like his father.

[@RetroRenegade8706]

Sequels? What sequels? Rolf has not heard of such poppycock!

[@DefecTec]

I think Luke only beat Vader because Vader was emotionally conflicted be he didn’t want to kill his son, that and because Luke had tapped into his rage, Luke and Vader are equals and yet Luke has not reached Vader’s skill

[@trence5]

Yeah, Vader was really conflicted. Even the Emperor was puzzled how Vader knew Luke was on Endor but he didn't.

[@robertswift6101]

vader was limited being mostly a machine

[@johndoyle2347]

Proving the Riemann hypothesis: Moments after a Big Bang, dual numbers to be considered at the origin, repulsive and gravitational forces are balanced, but dark matter is breaking up. "Dual numbers?", you might ask. Isn't that the square root of zero? (Actually, it's a great way to start a proof that ends with division by zero - a vertical line, and it corresponds to what I call Doyle's constant that deals with a brief window in time starting with taking the eth root of e and ending with a vertical line. Delanges sectrices for the unflaking of dark matter, Archimedean spiral for spinning up dark matter, Ceva sectrices for that dark matter breaking into smaller, primordial dark matter and black holes, Dinostratus quadratrix for impacting surrounding black holes, and Maclaurin sectrices for dark matter being slowed down over time. Split-complex at one, noting the more gravitational nature of diagonal ring/cylinder singularities of baryonic matter from broken dark matter. Using repetitious bisection (from arbitrary angle trisection), one gets added (SSA) for when dark matter dominates a universe and one gets added for when black holes and rarified singularities make things more gravitational, leading to a Big Crunch. At 2 = a Big Crunch, the solution to the Basel problem, and the "bellows method" drives things. A Big Crunch event needs the net gravity from the localized area AND gravitational effects from surrounding universes. The 2 represents how locked up black holes are making a stacking, planar contact. Everything else are harmonics - effects on surrounding universes. I see this proof as like trying to climb a steep cliff with the process of dark matter breaking up, getting to the top of the hill (like stable atomic nuclei) and then skiing down the "hill of many black holes" past an inflection point where black hole formation and spaghettification happens, leading to the final vertical line tensor of the Maclaurin trisectrix. This is much like I have posted about considering the recursive form of Euler's Identity as being like an old incandescent light bulb that you can see having first, second, and third degree critical points. Ramanujan's Infinite Sum of negative one-twelfth: each positional jostling, mass, and gravitational/attractive exchange between universes (defined by Big Bounce events, considering Ramanujan during both Big Crunch and Big Bang sides) ADDS up to evenness (or a partner in marriage - like half of the whole, I guess). Net gravity increases over time from the breaking up of dark matter, much like a vertical asymptote. It continues to increase, but hits a critical point, much like a vertical tangent, when enough dark matter has weakened and been broken up into the more net gravitational baryonic matter (split-complex numbers). Then, the effects of gravity reach their upper limit - much like a vertical line - at e to the negative e power (where black holes have been flattened). Over a decade ago, I said that the potential energy of a Big Bang was 1/6 times (the speed of light, cubed). If I had said Big Bounce instead, I would have been correct, in a sense. Now, I see how the speed of light would have to be the fourth power.

[@rgdconstruction]

I love the videos with vader and Luke. Father and son talk never get old

[@johndoyle2347]

Split-complex numbers relate to the diagonality (like how it's expressed on Anakin's lightsaber) of ring/cylindrical singularities and to why the 6 corner/cusp singularities in dark matter must alternate. Dual numbers relate to Euler's Identity, where the thin mass is cancelling most of the attractive and repulsive forces. The imaginary number is mass in stable particles of any conformation. In Big Bounce physics, dual numbers relate to how the attractive and repulsive forces work together to turn the matter that we normally think of into dark matter. Complex numbers = vertical asymptote. Split-complex numbers = vertical tangent. Dual numbers = vertical line. These algebras can be simply thought of as tensors. Delanges sectrices can be thought of as opposites of vertical asymptotes. Ceva sectrices as opposites of vertical tangents, and Maclaurin sectrices as opposites of vertical lines. The natural logarithm of the imaginary number is pi divided by 2 radians times i. This means that, at whatever point of stable matter other than at a singularity, the attractive or repulsive force being emitted is perpendicular to the "plane" of mass. In Big Bounce physics, this corresponds to how particles "crystalize" into stacks where a central particle is greatly pressured to degenerate by another particle that is in front, another behind, another to the left, another to the right, another on top, and another below. Dark matter is formed quickly afterwards. Ramanujan Infinite Sum (of the natural numbers): during a Big Crunch, the smaller, central black holes, not the dominating black holes, are about a twelfth of the total mass involved. Dark matter has its singularities pressed into existence, while baryonic matter is formed by its singularities. This also relates to 12 stacked surrounding universes that are similar to our own "observable universe" - an infinite number of stacked universes that bleed into each other and maintain an equilibrium of Big Bounce events. i to the i power: the "Big Bang mass", somewhat reminiscent of Swiss cheese, has dark matter flaking off, exerting a spin that mostly cancels out, leaving potential energy, and necessarily in a tangential fashion. This is closely related to what the natural logarithm of the imaginary number represents. Mediants are important to understanding the Big Crunch side of a Big Bounce event. Black holes have locked up, with these "particles" surrounding and pressuring each other. Black holes get flattened into unstable conformations that can be considered fractions, to form the dark matter known from our Inflationary Epoch. Sectrices are inversely related, as they deal with dark matter being broken up, not added like the implosive, flattened "black hole shrapnel" of mediants. Ford circles relate to mediants. Tangential circles, tethered to a line. Sectrices: the families of curves deal with black holes and dark matter. (The Fibonacci spiral deals with how dark matter is degenerated/broken up, with supernovae, and forming black holes. The Golden spiral deals with black holes being flattened into dark matter during a Big Bounce event.) The Archimedean spiral deals with black holes and their spins before and after a reshuffling from cubic to the most dense arrangement, during a Big Crunch. The Dinostratus quadratrix deals with the dark matter being broken up by ripples of energy imparted by outer (of the central mass) black holes, allowing the dark matter to unstack, and the laminar flow of dark matter (the Inflationary Epoch) and dark matter itself being broken up by lingering black holes. Delanges sectrices (family of curves): dark matter has its "bubbles" force a rapid flaking off - the main driving force of the Big Bang. Ceva sectrices (family of curves): spun up dark matter breaks into primordial black holes and smaller, galactic-sized dark matter and other, typically thought of matter. Maclaurin sectrices (family of curves): dark matter gets slowed down, unstable, and broken up by black holes. Jimi Hendrix's "Little Wing". Little wing = Maclaurin sectrix. Butterflies = Ceva sectrix. Zebras = Dinostratus quadratrix. Moonbeams = Delanges sectrix. Jimi was experienced and "tricky". Jimi was commenting on dark matter. How it could be destabilized by being slowed down, spun up, broken up by lingering black holes, or flaked off. (The Delanges trisectrix also corresponds to stable atomic nuclei.) Dark matter, on the stellar scale, are broken up by supernovae. Our solar system was seeded with the heavier elements from a supernova. I'm happily surprised to figure out sectrices. Trisectrices are another thing. More complex (algebras) and I don't know if I have all the curves available to use in analyzing them. I have made some progress, but have more to discern. I can see Fibonacci spirals relating to the trisectrices. The Clausen function of order 2: black holes and rarified singularities are becoming more and more commonplace. Doyle's constant for the potential energy of a Big Bounce event: 21.892876 Also known as e to the (e + 1/e) power. At the eth root of e, the black holes are stacked as densely as possible. I suspect Ramanujan's Infinite Sum connects a reshuffling from the solution to the Basel problem and a transfer of mass to centralized black holes. Other than the relatively small amount of kinetic energy of black holes being flattened into dark matter, the only energy is potential energy, then: 1 (squared)/(e to the e power), dark matter singularities have formed and thus with the help of Ramanujan, again, create "bubbles", leading to the Big Bang part of the Big Bounce event. My constant is the chronological ratio of these events. This ratio applies to potential energy over kinetic energy just before a Big Bang event. Methods of arbitrary angle trisection: Neusis construction relates to how dark matter has its corner/cusp singularities create "bubbles", driving a Big Bang event. Repetitious bisection relates to dark matter spinning so violently that it breaks, leaving smaller dark matter, primordial black holes, and other more familiar matter, and to how black holes can orbit other black holes and then merge. It also relates to how dark matter can be slowed down. Belows method (similar to Sylvester's Link Fan) relates to black holes being locked up in a cubic arrangement just before a positional jostling fitting with Ramanujan's Infinite Sum. General relativity: 8 shapes, as dictated by the equation? 4 general shapes, but with a variation of membranous or a filament? Dark matter mostly flat, with its 6 alternating corner/cusp edge singularities. Neutrons like if a balloon had two ends, for blowing it up. Protons with aligned singularities, and electrons with just a lone cylindrical singularity? Prime numbers in polar coordinates: note the missing arms and the missing radials. Matter spiraling in, degenerating? Matter radiating out - the laminar flow of dark matter in an Inflationary Epoch? Corner/cusp and ring/cylinder types of singularities. Connection to Big Bounce theory? "Operation -- Annihilate!", from the first season of the original Star Trek: was that all about dark matter and the cosmic microwave background radiation? Anakin Skywalker connection?

[@Bibben]

Luke being equally as powerful as Vader is canon in my eyes, although Yoda did not have time to teach Luke about force lightning, that’s why Luke couldn’t block it with his lightsaber or hands

[@ferociousrazordino3581]

It certainly was, both obi wan and yoda hinged on Luke killing vader, and had both expected and trained him to specifically be able to do it

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Although it would have been smart if Yoda had told Luke, "discard your lightsaber do not. Your life this weapon is. Against the Emperor defenseless do not leave yourself". It's honestly one of the stupidest things I've ever seen and completely unnecessary for drama. Palpatine could have likely yanked the thing right out of his hand if he wanted but at least Luke wouldn't have liked such a Newb.

[@BlackAdder1970]

George Lucas ABSOLUTELY changed the Saber to green because it didn't show up well on Tatoonie. There is a video out there with Lucas saying so. Luke would NEVER have been as Powerful as Anakin would have become. It wasn't the suit alone that restricted Anakin it was his grievous injuries first and foremost.

[@nathanhodges411]

Nice click bait. Didn’t prove anything here

[@DarthArachnious]

There's a lot of really good moves in there. But it's very obvious that David Prowse or Bob Anderson cannot see Mark Hamill.

[@holdfast7182]

It's the same reason they didn't have a Blue Squadron in the Death Star run, because they used blue screen special effects.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Yup, and the blue saber just didn't show up against the pure blue sky in the Sarlacc Pitt fight.

[@zcorpalpha2462]

Vader was Aging 🔥

[@larrytalbot3824]

While I’m not sure if James Kahn’s official novelisation was wholly based on the screenplay for Return of the Jedi, I do remember purchasing it close to the films release back in ‘83 & there are several references in the book to the fact that Luke’s new lightsaber is green.

[@Game-The-System]

I don't think the word "castrated" means what you think it means.

[@paulguthrie4857]

Wow....that honestly just seemed like a huge commercial.

[@TheEternalOuroboros]

All of his videos are.

[@jaow4000]

Neither of them wanted to kill the other, but the being conflicted would surely mess with Vader more because all the dark side emotions would be missing (hate, anger atc), whereas it wouldn't unbalance Luke as a light side user in the same way.

[@jeffanderson8165]

Red = "I am Sith" Blue = "I am Jedi" Green = "I serve The Force" (Purple = a cross between Red and Blue? Maybe a blending)

[@niall9727]

Can we get the extended directors cut of the 6 movies?

[@niall9727]

Would make sense since every other film has a directors cut

[@vincentharris2259]

T​@@niall9727Those Deleted Scenes Of Luke Kicking Vader's Ass Are Awesome They Should Put That Back In I Always Thought That Their Fight In Jedi Was Weak And Could Of Been Better.

[@jsthlrd]

People hate the idea that Luke defeated Vader straight up because of how the prequels portrays things, but it was always the intent to show that Luke had become Vader’s equal. Luke didn’t want to kill Vader throughout the beginning of the duel but had the advantage throughout. The way it makes the most sense is that Yoda trained Luke in a fashion specifically designed to defeat Vader because that was the goal. When Jedi were trained at the temple, they were given generic lightsaber training and it was not focused on defeating a specific opponent. Where Luke would have been trained in this manner.

[@eurologic]

Nobody hates the idea Luke whoops Vader in ROTJ. What are you smoking?

[@ferociousrazordino3581]

​@@eurologiclmao it's quite obvious they do woth how much denial there is

[@priestesslucy3299]

​@@eurologic there are a lot of fandumb people who can't handle Luke's rate of growth. To be perfectly honest it is borderline gary stu, but there is sufficient justification in the narrative to prevent that classification. Barely.

[@raidenn6266]

​@@priestesslucy3299 Luke's growth makes sense under the context of just the OT. When the prequels get brought in, that's where problems arise.

[@priestesslucy3299]

@@raidenn6266 the prequels provide that justification, imo. We see how Luke is literally the son of the Chosen One. We see how the Jedi slow down and hold back Anakin's growth. We hear how Anakin focused on lightsabers over the Force to his detriment, because he is coasting on his innate connection to the Force. And most importantly we see how Anakin becomes a cripple. Without Mustafar, Luke would have needed a lifetime to catch up to Vader. But because Vader's growth was hard-capped (to 40% according to Lucas' interviews) Luke (who is written as a monstrous prodigy in terms of learning ability) was able to catch up.

[@MegaMan352]

It was made clear in the novel 'Star Wars Shadows of the Empire' that Luke grew in an oven a green crystal, which is why the blade of his lightsaber was green.

[@NickFixHC]

That's why green lightsaber is my favorite.

[@tringalij]

As a guy who fixes stuff, cats, household stuff… I’m so annoyed Luke never fixed his damn hand. Sure, originally there wasn’t time but afterwards? Wearing a glove is like driving with plastic covering a broken window. Fix your damn prosthetic man!

[@idiocrat3744]

The most likely reason is that it's easier to take your glove off your prosthesis and clean it, than try to remove the synthetic skin every time.

[@HeroQuestFans]

I several of those shots (towards the "defeat" scene) it looks like Mark Hamil is hitting Dave Prowse (or Bob Anderson)'s prop blade so hard that it's rebounding off the vader costume helmet. I'm sure that didn't feel nice at the time

[@LightsaberGoBrrrrrr]

That’s not…. That’s not what castrated means..

[@greenmachine949]

As a kid, I knew Luke was worrying Vader in RotJ when he jumped out at him using both hands to strike his saber with. Before that moment, I only remember Vader using one hand to duel with.

[@shona-sof]

Have to say it. 'Castrated' has a very specific meaning. And that's a deleted scene I'm not interested in seeing.

[@ImmortalArts33]

Anakin was not the chosen one. That is what the prequels were trying to tell us. A prophecy misread. The sequels were supposed to answer to that, and Disney failed.

[@littledogie8390]

They are NOT LAZER SWORDS! They are supposed to be some type of plasma. Additionally, George Lucas dumped the word lazer and used light saber. It was Rian Johnson, director of "The "Last Jedi" who called the light saber lazer sword, another reason to hate that movie.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Always pisses me of when I hear people call them that.

[@MegaSheen15]

It would’ve been cool if Luke found his original saber at the end of ROTJ.

[@RussianNightmare]

I worked for Lucasfilm and I have seen George say the one reason they light saber was green was in fact due to the daylight scenes...

[@alexmc7798]

Palpatine: sup, Vades? Quiet day? Vader: oh just changing my helmet composition, chucking some cortosis on it. You never know, with that Luke kid still out there, right? Palpatine: mmm…yeh hard veto on that. Gotta fight fair, bro.

[@RedDragon313]

Not spending that much on a saber when others sell the same of like quality elsewhere and cheaper. That is cray cray...

[@orangemanok5800]

The Disney sequels are not cannon in the minds of millions. Count me one of them.

[@tonymastro42]

The Empire of Dreams documentary makes a note about the green lightsaber showing up better during the outside scenes.

[@trence5]

Good one. I've always thought that Luke having his own designed saber was about coming into his own.

[@galexymitzelplik9560]

We dont look at the vader vs luke fight close enough. The first half of the fight, luke is outmatching vader by kicking him down the stairs. This is huge against the once greatest duelist. Vader throws his lightsaber and catches luke offguard but didnt hurt him. Then vader taunts him and Luke lets loose on vader. They were both holding back up until that point but Luke is younger and more determined than Vader. Vader is old and guilt stricken.

[@hadorstapa]

0:27 "Luke could have grew to become" You mean "Luke could have grown to become"

[@jimoftehgray]

I still would like to believe the reason for the colour change was due to how Jedi with certain colour lightsabers represent what they were: blue for knights who’d use their lightsaber more and green for peacekeepers who’d use the power of the force more than their lightsaber. Perfect examples: Qui Gon Jin and Obi Wan Kenobi.

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

Yeah that's a nice lore retcon. Just like the fact that Mace had a purple lightsaber because he tapped into both sides of the Force when he was fighting. But in truth Vader had a red blade in the beginning to contrast with the blue sabers of Obi Wan and Luke and Luke had a green saber in ROTJ because it didn't show up well against blue sky in the Sarlacc Pit fight. You can pick any lore you want to indicate why he has a green blade in Universe. It's still just a retcon to explain something required by the practical effects of the time.

[@WebbScoutLeader]

That green saber luke crafted WAS Qui-Gon's; ObiWan had his masters saber since darth maul was sliced in half and fell down the shaft. Luke found it in ObiWan's tattonie adobe.

[@jacobwegener8561]

Seeing those clips of old Luke drinking the green milk from that creature made me laugh so hard!

[@Nathanpark-cu2gd]

So nobody thinks Luke reached his full potential? Guess Battle Meditation doesn't mean anything. Tisk Tisk.

[@maximusprime3459]

Wow, Luke was savage. This is the stuff that needs to be re-edited into these movies instead of stuffing in CG easter eggs.

[@kjhuang]

I believed the myth about Luke's blade color being changed to show up better against the sky. I didn't bother to look for sources 😅

[@ashleighelizabeth5916]

It's not a myth. This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. It was well documented in the SyFy magazines like Starlog back in the day.

[@mcleanirish]

There was actually a whole clip of the barge scene with Luke wielding the blue lightsaber that was shown on television before the release of ROTJ. It was either shown on The Today Show or an Entertainment Tonight-like program. Remember being disappointed as I was hoping Luke would get a new color for the 3rd movie. Wonder if any of this footage is still out there. Still to this day also remember seeing the trailer for "Revenge of the Jedi" in the theater as I was seeing Empire for the first time. My Mom kept saying "this isn't this movie... it's the NEXT movie." Was definitely the most exciting time in Star Wars history!

[@jherbranson]

That's interesting, I never thought about how Vader may have recognized his old lightsaber and cut off Luke's hand willing to dispose of it.

[@rogerstephenroth8073]

If Disney was smart and had some real imagination they could used the deleted scenes to make spinoff stories which actually could been very interesting and highly creative process.

[@banthatracks_gaffisticks]

I've seen footage of Luke with the blue blade in ROTJ and it still looks pretty cool. I agree with deeper reasoning for this change.

[@michaelmccandless1280]

I see why they cut that scene out. Vader was blocking when Luke was still too far away from him. Luke had to quickly close the distance, but it was still too late to look real.

[@chrishateley5582]

Reading the comments fills me with joy at how many other people still regard legends as the true canon. I salute you, brothers and sisters!

[@Yikes_its_Psychs]

Disney really did kill the franchise.

[@vermontmike9800]

I’m pretty sure Mark Hamill confirmed the reason for the green saber change.

[@Vort317545]

Personal theory, I think Vader allowed Luke to best him in the dual in Return of the Jedi. What was Vader's proposal in Empire, "Join me, and we can defeat the Emperor and rule as Father and Son." That was Vader's plan all long. He was looking for the opportunity to 'off the Emperor.' and he couldn't do it alone, since he was diminished in the Force (becoming limbless can do that) so he let Luke best him. Knowing that while the Emperor attacked Luke it would give him a perfect moment for sneak attack which of course he did. What Vader didn't count on was his life support getting a dose of Force Lightening and killing him. I personally believe Vader had grown disillusioned with the Empire long long before he even knew Luke existed. But he was powerless to stop it. Until Luke showed up. If you remember in Empire when Vader met the Emperor in hologram form. The Emperor suspected Vader wasn't “all in” on the plan. And that plays out in the Obi-wan series close, that even plays out in Revenge of the Sith. Anakin ONLY joined the Emperor to save Padame that was his motivation. Not the Empire, per say.

[@michaelbyars8004]

I always thought Vader took a dive when he sees that the emperor wants Luke to take his place

[@astraldelirium4122]

"and was castrated" Wrong sword, my dude.

[@briansview2886]

They should have kept that wide angle in. It's raw and vicious and you can better see why Vader went down. In the theatrical version it seems out of place how Vader just gave in, unless you think he just didn't want to fight his son anymore, which could make sense