State of GRADING: Inside Scoop on PSA, SGC, BGS & How to Profit!

[@WarriorKidd06]

Hey Geoff why don’t you get Jeremy Lee or the Founder of TAG on the show and ask them these questions. Or do a video with them at the Burbank Show.

[@robertdube9131]

Jeremy Lee is gross. He literally put out a video entitled “Market Manipulation” implying it was “ethical” to shill bid up auctions for the sake of manufacturing higher comps for yourself, as long as you’re willing to pay if you get caught doing it. The hobby needs to stop worshipping “influencers.”

[@fan4life345]

SGC has always been the most strict on their grading since day one! Corners....centering....edges..etc Psa over the years has been all over the place , for example, back in 1999 I had purchased a psa 10 1976 walter payton rookie which had on both sides a fuzzy rough cut, I was in shock and hated the appearance after a few days of thinking about it and flipped it quick, maybe gets a 9 these day's honestly. Ive even seen 9's by psa with dinged corners smh. Bgs and SGC ALL THE WAY!

[@sunny8784]

Agree with you 100%! SGC and their new app is next level service. PSA has absolutely terrible customer support and they are over priced for what they are! they are inconsistent, and expensive. The card should be the driving factor of VALUE..a grading card company should NOT be the driving factor. If SGC, CSG, BGS and PSA all grade the same card a 10...there should be absolute 0 difference on resale value. People hyping up sales on PSA will eventually FLOP and if not, the hobby will absolutely suffer.

[@Channel-qx1or]

and now owned by PSA!

[@RWorfel1]

The “BGS is inferior to PSA” argument is pure propaganda. It was started and spread mostly by KZbin influencers. PSA is giving kickback to these folks either in the form of monetary compensation or favorable treatment when they use their grading services. Any time you see an influencer that is preaching PSA over and over in their videos, call them out. Understand it for what it is and make a fool of them. If you are at shows, make their experience uncomfortable. This hobby needs to weed this garbage out. We need competition amongst graders, card manufacturers, supply companies, etc. KZbin influencer groups that push only one agenda are detrimental to the overall health of the hobby.

[@Doors067]

Beckett can't even lick sgcs jock strap

[@WholeSomeHomie]

If the consumer believes psa is superior, then it is.

[@RWorfel1]

@@WholeSomeHomie the typical “intelligent” consumer does not believe that PSA is superior.

[@WholeSomeHomie]

@@RWorfel1 Well, the typical "intelligent" consumers is clearly the minority due to PSA'S popularity. So my original point holds up.

[@RWorfel1]

@@WholeSomeHomie there are way more people NOT grading with PSA then those who are. Grading, in general, is a waste of $. And those who pay big for a PSA 10, particularly modern cards, are just pissing money away. Most cards are a waste of $ and people have started to realize that over the past several years. It’s not the only reason for the collapse but it’s definitely a big part of it.

[@controversialcardchannel]

The reason BGS isn't handing out 10's like candy is because 10's ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RARE! PSA has watered down the market by flooding it with 10's to get more customers and money. We as hobby consumers need to be aware of cause and effect in our hobby. I'm with BGS....a PRISTINE is actually the true name for perfection as opposed to just Gem Mint and Mint.

[@tehRaptors]

or it could be that BGS is trying to create artificial scarity by not giving 10s. The conversation goes both ways my guy!

[@controversialcardchannel]

@tehRaptors WTH is "artificial scarcity" 😂😂😂??? You do know BGS 10's exist??? Black Labels exists?? Try better next time, my guy. It's supposed to be RARE

[@Freethecommons]

​@@tehRaptorsPSA doesn't sub grade which is such a scam and cop out. PSA should not be as respected as it it just for the fact that they don't sub grade

[@ryanfenters1892]

For me being back in the hobby just over a year after a 20 year absence the whole hobby at times still boggles me. Nothing more so then grading. I've submitted cards to both SGC and PSA. What's irritating to me is the infatuation with PSA. For being the "best" in the hobby so to speak. A lot of that weight is based on the resale value of a PSA slab vs other companies. I've seen so much inconsistencie with PSA not to mention the return time. It's kind of a joke. I can submit to SGC have my cards back in 2-3 weeks not get upcharged to have autos graded. It blows my mind that PSA has some how become industry standard. For me a graded card from a reputable grading company is no different. Whether it's PSA,SGC,or Beckett. Just my 2 cents. Appreciate all you do for the hobby. ❤❤

[@tehRaptors]

so youd have no problem paying psa 10 prices for SGC 10's right?

[@ronardigolston5813]

I see no problem at all doing that. Been and selling cards since 1986

[@theheadyman]

Sgc won’t be a great until they have their registry back and better than before. Bgs has the best holder. I guess the question is what caused people to give psa cards a premium. My guess was the fact they would slab 60/40 centered cards a 10 which bgs and sgc would not do. Somehow off centered 10 was more valuable then a centered 9 from other companies. Glad psa has changed that practice. Either way, i am small cookies to the market and will go with affordable grading vs overpriced long wait submissions. If sgc can do 18 a card i would definitely go that way. I miss their 5 to 10 dollar submissions from back in the day.

[@captmorgan2063]

Boom SGC at 15 per card grading now and launched a new app that will soon be updated to have a registry!!!!

[@freedomfight1933]

Seeing the huge $6m display of 30 PSA 10 Jordan Fleer 57s framed together at the national, it was sort of shocking how much better some 10s are than others. Some were just clearly off centered for instance. It really lowered my opinion of PSA 10s.

[@DanielWec]

Where can we see this?

[@freedomfight1933]

@DanielWec Rick Probstein had it I believe. He's pretty big in the industry, and I'm sure you can search online and find it.

[@DanielWec]

@@freedomfight1933 Thank you!

[@JLWStudyRoom]

Good stuff, always good hearing from a veteran of the hobby.

[@colbybrand5326]

The fact that a PSA 10 and a bgs 9.5 are that far apart, but like this guy said “the grading is very similar”…. WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU PEOPLE?!??! IT IS STUPIDITY TO BUY PSA! why would you pay double for the same card, just because of its slab? The clock is ticket on that stupidity. Markets always work that out, ALWAYS. I personally don’t give a shit about either company, I care about making good purchases. I see no difference in bgs 9.5 and PSA 10 as a whole, individually, yes, I see discrepancies periodically. I do think Beckett is way harder on centering and surface and PSA is harder on corners and edges. Also, people always seem to mislead about sgc vs Beckett, b see Beckett sales higher than sgc. Lastly, I believe there is a bubble in 10s. A 9 should not be 6 to 7 times less than a 10. The population difference, often doesn’t warrant that at all. Basically, I think it’s foolish to buy a PSA 10. Best Buy is a sgc 9.5 Second Best Buy is a bgs 9.5 Third Best Buy is a sgc 9 Fourth Best Buy is a bgs 9

[@RWorfel1]

Nah. BGS 9.5 true gem at 70% of PSA 10 price is the way to go

[@HarryHardon9]

Agree. BGS 9's are often in better condition than PSA 9's. I've cracked BGS 9's and got PSA 10's

[@RWorfel1]

@@HarryHardon9 yes. The whole “BGS is inferior to PSA” argument is pure propaganda. It was started and spread by KZbin influencers. And it is all because PSA is giving kickback to these folks either in the form of monetary compensation or favorable treatment when using their grading services. Any time you see an influencer that is preaching PSA over and over and over in their videos, you should call them out. Understand it for what it is and make a fool of them. If you are at shows, make their experience uncomfortable. This hobby needs to weed this garbage out. We need competition amongst graders, card manufacturers, supply companies, etc. KZbin influencer groups that push only one agenda are detrimental to the overall health of this hobby.

[@fan4life345]

SGC will explode very very soon, they are my new go too for every high end card!

[@jk-califkid5017]

PSA has a knack for ruining the value of cards. I got a grader who loved the number 4. Mid-life cards KZbinr posted a video of cards that mostly graded 3s and 4s. PSA, never again.

[@wondon2992]

The biggest problem with them is that they have vested interests be it in house or out.

[@JonVernon-g8i]

All grading companies are not right in grading cause humans grade the cards. Look how many bar codes have been deactivated due to them grading fakes. To many scammers out there that's why I am reluctant to send mine off.

[@TheBostonRippah]

I sent in 2 topps inception christian pache numbered autos. They are both mint. 1 got a ten. The other got a 4....both are flawless...bring on the AI grading systems.

[@JamesBrown-v1t]

I'm with you and I truly never liked grading from the start of grading in the 90's and I just can't get a grip on sending the cards off and it's turn around time is ridiculous! Wish I could find grader's that does it right in front of you!

[@sportscastercanada]

@21:24 This is absolutely true. I remember how in the early 2000’s, Gretzky rookies in BGS or BVG slabs carried a premium over PSA.

[@RWorfel1]

Many of the people in this hobby are stupid. I cracked a BGS 6 last month and sent it to PSA and got a 7. The case that “Beckett” is inferior is just ridiculous

[@therookiecardking]

@@RWorfel1PSA is a criminal organization

[@daleHarrison93]

@@RWorfel1 80 million cards graded via PSA, 1 card isn't a big enough sample size.

[@RWorfel1]

@@daleHarrison93 yes but it doesn't take someone with much more than half a brain to understand that PSA is not superior to all. They are equally flawed.

[@jude999]

Pissing contest between psa and sgc for lowest grading. Tobacco cards graded on a 1-5 scale, realistically. I started collecting in 1981 and don't ever remember there being a problem judging the condition of a card. And I think that is backed by the fact that now people are talking about "eye appeal" as opposed to the actual grade, which at this point is so arbitrary it has little to do with how a card looks to the human eye. When they started slabbing cards I told psa to their face that I felt like they were ruining the hobby, and 30 years later I don't think I was wrong.

[@tehRaptors]

and yet the hobby is as big as ever and more popular. go figure!

[@daleHarrison93]

@@tehRaptors 90%+ of submitters do it to resell & profit so not really.

[@jk-califkid5017]

Reducing the price of grading is useless if cards are under-graded (i. e. PSA 3 instead of PSA 5).

[@HarryHardon9]

Yep, PSA graders just give you any grade irrespective of the card consider. I've cracked out 6's and 7's and got 9's and 10's

[@gettuffstudios]

I'm new to all this, and this is exactly one of the videos I was looking for to get a snapshot of the industry right now (or a month ago rather), but overall still a great snapshot overview. Thank you for this!!

[@midnightbasketball3302]

CSG can't break into the sports card market because they grade modern cards too harshly. You can't evaluate a paper card from 1990 the same as a chrome card from 2023. CSG doesn't understand that.

[@rickinquest]

Personally, I don't see the value of using a 3rd party / middle-layer for submissions. However, I deal in bulk of 50-500 cards more so than single cards or small quantities. I heard horror stories of 3rd party submitters disappearing and the cards you give them are under their ownership name, so if you ever try to go through the grading companies, they'll tell you flat out they don't know you and have no record of you and their relationship is with whomever you used and they can't share any information. I've heard suspicions at times of customers sending submission companies cards and the cards come back a lower grade with accusations by submitters of card swaping. True or not, you can avoid that issue completely by sending your own submissions yourself and establishing your relationship with the companies. The value or any upside using a 3rd party submitter is negated by the potential downside in my opinion.

[@ryanbauer8317]

some sure... Joe has been doing it for 20 years. you're safe with them.

[@C.Baumann]

Soooooo, was this just a commercial for Joe's shop?

[@WendyPettis]

Joe Davis and his staff is such a pleasure to do business with

[@gotbaseballcards-com]

Thanks Wendy, we appreciate it!

[@jude999]

He is a nice man.

[@utopiainspireandgrow4637]

i wish people would take in Rare edition .. the cases look clean and the security on them is top notch and with the QR CODE you can see why the card got that grade with pictures

[@ChristopherSmithNYC]

The value I get from TAG's service is light years from what I get from PSA or SGA.

[@jamesnguyen7069]

because theyre the new badboi in town

[@bubblesnz1059]

@@jamesnguyen7069 probably because of the actual transparency of grades... Their level of detail should be the benchmark

[@fjfucjdi093jfe]

You ever thought it's because they have to compensate due to their slab not having the value PSA has?

[@bubblesnz1059]

@@fjfucjdi093jfe lol are you for real??

[@jude999]

But they don't grade vintage which to me is a huge red flag for the integrity of their grading process.

[@ThurnisHaley]

Recently got a storage unit full of cards ranging from Michael Jordan rookies, to Kobe Bryant rookies and many other football and baseball legends, is there a way to bring in a collection to get graded? Or do I have to fill out the forms on PSA and send in each individual card?

[@tomwatson8855]

SGC in my opinion, provide better service and cards really pop with their slabs.

[@jude999]

Problem with them is their slabs are too bulky and their labels suck. In a perfect world you would have a PSA slab and label with the service of SGC

[@ryanra44]

@@jude999PSA slabs are flimsy and the labels are ugly. All in the eye of the beholder

[@HarryHardon9]

​@@jude999Disagree. BGS slab and label with BGS's service

[@fan4life345]

SGC HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON POINT SINCE DAY 1 LOVE EM FOR ALL MY HIGH END CARDS.

[@BRIANCARRUTHERS]

HERE ARE SOME FACTS - I got my 228 card submission two days ago. They were all lower end cards that I only subbed because they should all get 10’s. Two of us inspected them with magnifying glasses and we were extremely picky. So 228 out of 1000 minty cards went in. SIX came back fives with really bad bent bottom left corners. Obviously PSA did that while in their possession, this is FACT. I also got 68 THAT graded seven or eight. Some look flawless in the slab. Some you could see some corner issues, which did not exist when I sent them in. 40 of them were Michael Jordan cards and it sure as heck seems like they don’t want to give those tens very often. I believe they hired people to unpackaged the cards to handle the volume and they are not careful at all. I also believe the graders jam through the cards as fast as they can, and if it is not a chromium ultramodern, they’re typically going to throw an eight or nine on the card if it looks really good. All in all, PSA needs to get their act together. Hire people who are OCD who will handle the cards the way we collectors do, even if that means longer turnaround times.

[@leecrabb7398]

Thanks for exposing these crooks. I believe every word how else can they manage to crank out 1mil cards a month?? So they average what 30-40mill in monthly revenue possible half a billion a year. This needs to be investigated by the feds

[@r.a.tackey3230]

I've read enough horror stories.. psa is a scam

[@thesportscardprofessor7586]

Geoff you mentioned you shipped directly to PSA, why did you choose in that case not to use bulk submission service of Joe's? Thanks.

[@Sniffles69]

Using a middleman no matter how respected is a risk. Look up what happened with Ludkins in the UK who were the biggest middleman here.

[@HarryHardon9]

Too risky. Can get valuable cards swapped for fakes, damaged and stolen. Waste of time and hassle

[@ShawnStacy-f3i]

Completed last 3 submissions with Joe. 2 PSA and 1 SGC. They do an amazing job and PSA return time was under 2 months thru them. Prefer Joe over going direct. Free shipping and insurance is $1 per $100 if you want to add.

[@brentrichardsbaseballcards]

PSA has changed too much. Perfect cards getting head scratching grades

[@wondon2992]

So I recently saw a two 1961 mantle cards side by side . One in an old psa slab graded 8 and one in a new psa slab graded 4. The for looked soooo much better than the 8 . I couldn’t believe it- but you best believe it bc it’s happening.

[@utopiainspireandgrow4637]

the issue now in the hobby is people are charging graded prices for RAW!! if tou want graded prices get the card graded and take that chance on the grade you think it would be !!!

[@thomastorre8352]

Need Artificial intelligence. That's the only thing that is close to fair.

[@Matt-vh9vs]

I always buy SGC or BGS for PC cards cause they are usually cheaper althought not by much when im buying. However i do notice over time that PSA always holds the value of the card while the other brands dont ... so the gap of what they are worth widens .Very weird to me considering its common knowledge they grade their cards at least as tough. Crossovers would do quite well to PSA.

[@montana01]

😂 it’s not like Beckett was on top for a little bit. They were the top grader for like 10+ years. Clearly taking a backseat now, but a lot of high end cards still go there, because it’s a fraction of the grading cost vs PSA.

[@HarryHardon9]

Beckett are better than PSA. At least you can get a fair grade and have your cards returned undamaged. A PSA grader creased two potentially $350k cards and gave them 5's. Don't send cards to PSA.

[@JonVernon-g8i]

I believe that online auctions need to stop and a company like beckett price guides should be the true value for the cards or like tuff stuff use to be. With tuff stuff and beckett u also got starting lineup and mcfarlane prices and that should stabilize the market.

[@Sniffles69]

So you want to eliminate the free market?

[@JonVernon-g8i]

@@Sniffles69 I think that there should be a influential and credible source that makes the hobby prices affordable for everyone not just wealthy people like it was when I was a kid. It was designed for kids not just the wealthy

[@justincogdill8157]

Loved Tuff Stuff prize mag!!!

[@JonVernon-g8i]

@@justincogdill8157 me too

[@kennethsalter9998]

I think part of the bigger issue is the difference in price from a 9 to a 10 may need 2 be examined !!! PSA can't give every card a 10 and seem 2 be protective of some cards pop! ...I have 9s that are clearly flawless and have 10s that are not! ...It is a fine line !! Not faulting because I wonder if I could handle the pressure of having so many peoples extra money of even livelihoods in the palm of my hand!??? People need 2 understand the risk of sending a card off and educate themselves on if it is worth it !!! It is a gamble !! I just think we need 2 get some of the pricing down if possible !!??? In my opinion it would pay off for PSA and we in the community would see a vast many cards getting graded and protected !! I really think 10 a card isn't 2 much 2 ask 4! It would only expand PSA!

[@evanfraser64]

Two topics I would have liked to see you cover-1. Fanatics buying a grading company. 2. Inconsistencies of grading at PSA and other companies including if standards are getting tougher. This was too much of An advertisement for me.

[@paulmouradjian6045]

TAG or Bust. Get the Human Factor of Favors for Favorites out of the equation. Most grading is bogus. You Mr Geoff Wilson are a proponent of proving grading is BS when you crack slabs and resubmit until you get a "numbah" you want. What Crap!

[@2tonechevy05]

I did not see an address to send my submission to for the pre screening. Can anyone help me with this info, I would love to try this service thanks

[@brownjorden]

Grading is good....the problem is it's too expensive similar to hobby and blaster boxes. We continue to pay as we do for everything we want i.e gas,groceries etc.. needs to go back to sub 10 dollars.

[@user-ex8ej9cl3g]

Nice discussion. PSA is in a good situation right now with roughly 1 million graded cards per month with the current price structure. I agree that prices are not coming down, at least for the immediate future. The question is who is #2? Beckett and SGC are solid and have a good history. Boy, Pokemon is for real.

[@stivosimz]

TAG should be the standard for grading. They have the technology. It's the future.

[@user-xf2tl8ee3c]

Agree If they could ever get their 💩 together and learn to scale. Right now their drops are a time waster

[@jude999]

But they don't grade vintage. Doesn't that bring into question their whole grading process?

[@user-xf2tl8ee3c]

@@jude999 I would rather they hold off, grading anything that they don’t feel confident being able to authenticate as not being counterfeit

[@WarriorKidd06]

TAG is the future that’s for certain. I can’t wait to grade with them again

[@HarryHardon9]

NASA North American Sports Card Authentication are the best grading company

[@JasonCardbourne]

How does Got Baseball Cards get better pricing, better turn around time and better grades than everyone else?

[@gotbaseballcards-com]

The "better grades" is because of the intense pre-screening we do on the front end, thereby eliminating thousands of cards yearly that should not be submitted in the first place, thereby increasing the % of 9s/10s on orders that we submit. We've been doing this longer than any group submitter in the industry (since 1998) so we know what to look for. As one of the largest submitters on the planet, we often get better turn times due to our volume as well as discounts that we can then pass on to submitters, allowing us to provide you with free shipping as well on shipments of 20+ cards. Thanks for asking!

[@user-xf2tl8ee3c]

My issue is that when PSA has a $15 special why use a bulk submitter who will charge $20? If they can narrow that margin it might be worth it

[@utopiainspireandgrow4637]

because you well get better grades 🤣 k own to happen

[@C.Baumann]

@@utopiainspireandgrow4637 I can buy that. Look at 4 Sharp Corners. Some of the 10's they sell would be 7 or 8's for schmucks like us

[@richardbianco9674]

Even high end Vintage tends to be much closer than most think comparing sgc to psa. In fact sgc has held the record not only now but several times in the past

[@kensmith316]

SGC is always far more consistent on vintage in my opinion - no matter what. by a solid margin.

[@richardbianco9674]

@@kensmith316 agreed. They never had to change their criteria like psa. A 10 from the very beginning would still be a 10 today. Psa can't even think of saying that. Case in point, any of the 3 psa 10 52 mantles. The sgc 9.5 that sold looks better than them all.

[@ryanra44]

I used to use PSA exclusively. Now I almost exclusively use SGC bc I like the turnaround time, and I trust their consistency and accuracy

[@therookiecardking]

SGC is by far best overall but PSA will always be top dog unless they choose to sell or eventually get shut down for crimes committed…

[@Sniffles69]

​ I'm in the UK and selling SGC here is nigh on impossible. It just isn't known but we aren't so big on sports cards here.

[@ryanra44]

@@Sniffles69 I don’t have problems selling SGC. Been 3 years and I sell $10-20k worth of SGC slabs every year. All about grading the right cards at the right time.

[@HarryHardon9]

SGC are crap. Awful grading company. They send expensive ungraded cards back unsleeved and damaged. Never again. Debris often gets inside the holders

[@ryanra44]

@@HarryHardon9 opinions are like a holes. Everyone has them. You act like PSA has never damaged or lost cards before. They call that a Tuesday. I’ve sent hundreds of cards to them and never once had an issue

[@pokemonwonderLLC]

Wealth of knowledge and experience shared here. Thanks for sharing and looking forward to what comes next.

[@JamesMunge]

Too many inconsistent grades, people crack, break, send to other service, get back, different grade, crack again, and send back to original grader....by then, who has any clue what so ever what happens.... just viewed a video, gentleman swears he got the wrong card back... people getting back cards damaged.... I'm just a collector... I contemplate sometimes sending one, one of my 93 finest Griffey refractors for grading. The get ahold of you Joe.... I would be able to improve my pc....

[@RWorfel1]

Exactly and so the pop reports on many cards are totally useless

[@HarryHardon9]

Avoid submitting valuable cards to PSA. They'll just come back creased

[@jrgodin4884]

How about checking out HGA. They seem to be known for grading "doubtful" cards. I have one that many have told me was a fake. Any thoughts?

[@Niko-Suave]

Beckett did make it clear on the 9.5 gem mint thing quite fast. it was all mentioned on Instagram after the surveys went out a few days later. Why you didnt catch it Geoff i dont know.

[@genesmith3582]

He's wrong about PSA prices not coming down. There's a really high flux of TCG cards that are fueling them right now that shouldn't be sustainable. Low-end and mid markets in basketball/football have collapsed. There's no more sending in Bol Bol prizms, unless you want your ass handed to you, and that's only a select few people, who will eventually figure it out after they've lost enough money. People are becoming more and more selective of what they send, fewer and fewer vintage and 90s cards are being graded after the pandemic rush, and TCG won't continue printing money...... all downward forces on the maximum PSA grading capacity.

[@pfeiffdog0811]

PSA turn around did improve but recently they have been taking longer again.

[@jamesnguyen7069]

everyone grading their ohtanis

[@jude999]

My average turnaround time has been 6 months

[@pk3739]

I submitted two cards at value to them. Arrived on 8/7, finally checked in yesterday 8/30. That’s def longer than recent times for me.

[@tebone3573]

Do any of these grading companies also do comics or do I go straight to CGC

[@mikejones7015]

Hello Geoff, my question is , my father in-law past away two years ago and had many baseball cards in boxes and folders. im not a collector but i would like to get the best prices for theses cards. i looked uop some of them and found out that he hade a lot of cards worth a lot of money. can you maybe direct me to the best way to get rid of the cards or should i hold on to them?

[@JonVernon-g8i]

Hold on to them if u have kids or grandkids around it might help them in the future. That's what I'm doing for my 3 grandson's

[@frankieb8591]

I couldn’t part ways from my cards for two months. Will stick to raw.

[@HarryHardon9]

Bring back Joe Orlando and the 15 free grades and cheaper grading fees

[@theheadyman]

Quick topic, if grading prices are not coming down, what will be the long term affect on graded set building? I assume 1975 and earlier, but no modern sets unless already high end.

[@Jacob_Spang]

the set registry is officially dead...

[@guitarman1ism]

I think BGS should drop the 9.5 and make them all 10’s no matter the sub grades. You’d have a gem mint, pristine, and black label. It’s streamlined and would make most the hobby happy.

[@HarryHardon9]

I think PSA should implement subgrades and change their slabs.

[@junichihayashi5202]

Totally agree here. I'd like to see this system: 10,9.5,9.5,9.5 or 10,10,9.5,9.5 = GM MT 10 10,10,10,9.5 = Pristine 10 10,10,10,10 = Black Label 10 It's going to create a TON of issues for those with 9.5 GM MT cards (myself included), but it would be a better model.

[@paulcrowder]

SGC may be the price of what PSA will be a few months after a new release, but early PSA is worth way more than PSA will be a few months after a new release. PSA is super rare in those first months, and the ones that exist cost a fortune to grade with a short turnaround time.

[@MatthewPrice-j9k]

Hey Jeff you should do a video on pricing like you pay to send a card un but you have to pay more if it's a psa 10 like how much you would have to pay and things like that it would help beginner that why they know and I think sgc would be good for beginner to send cards in

[@ASMRPeople]

Beckett would not be asleep at the wheel if Jim still owned it. The good will associated with the Beckett brand has slowly dried up since jim sold. In fact your an interesting part of the story. You have passed Beckett in price discovery the same aspect which they built there empire upon.

[@thecollector448]

Hello Gents, I love this episode/interview with very good points ...Loving it... Thank you.. As a sidebar: can I request a soccer/futbol episode to discuss the new crazy Saudi moves going on with those petro $$$$.. I would love to discuss further more.. Thanks again Geoff for all the great content!!! Cheers from California.

[@markmcmullen964]

I only grade with tag 👍🏻

[@angelou1]

nice interview and great info

[@bobo44donemilking51]

Pop control is out of control now ,PSA will not give a 10 on 89 Griffey Jr now

[@alabarca8016]

I would also like to know why I received a certain grade on a card unless it's a 10. Some of these standards really do need to change industry wide.

[@robs9781]

Geoff - Vintage Card SGC 5.5 or a PSA 6?

[@thomastorre8352]

Why is a 5000$ card much more expensive to grade then a 50 dollar card? Its the same process. I call Bull Sheet.

[@St.does.cards1]

Great content as always

[@littleshopintheshed]

If I buy an SGC 10, will I regret it? It is less than half price of a PSA 10

[@kmik4466]

PSA value is way more than any other grading companies. Hence why you can get it half off. PSA slabs hold value over time IMO. I only grade with PSA.

[@sunny8784]

Im sorry but PSA has FLOODED the market with inconsistencies, for collectors to bow down to PSA every time just because they are seeing a grading company boost a card sale is doing the complete opposite of preserving. A card grading company should not drive value, the card itself should drive the value. PSA customer support is horrific, and they are inconsistent. As collectors, you should support the grading companies that support us, and stop over pricing a slab cause of a specific grading company. We are collectively ruining the hobby if this continues.

[@byronsundberg9898]

PSA this year has been terrible for turn around. I have one submission that has been there since February.

[@enragedfurbie128]

I'm absolutely going to use these guys for my next submission. Great vid

[@user-xf2tl8ee3c]

I have used them for all 4 grading companies….my recommendation is to use them for PSA and SGC. They don’t really have the clout to hold BGS accountable

[@CastilloCollects]

Tag Grading

[@krakenhits1587]

SGC all the way! PSA slabs look bleh! SGC slabs make any cards look awesome! The black background doesn't clash with any color. They look like museum pieces. My whole PC is SGC

[@fan4life345]

100% fact!!! SGC IS THE BEST NOW

[@krakenhits1587]

@@fan4life345 Now with the price reduction they will grow even more I'm sure!

[@CamoBigfoot]

@The Geoff Wilson Show - If I send in a card to PSA under their 40 tier & it grades a 10 & is now worth over 2 million, are they going to charge me thousands to get it back?

[@jeffniles7121]

All you PSA fan boy's. The most iconic card '52 Mantle the best know copy is in a SGC slab. The 3 PSA 10's that exist look like ass compared to it.

[@alabarca8016]

There needs to be a standard for ALL grading companies to go by. The only thing they are going to be fighting over is pricing. This way everyone that sends in cards for grading know that cards are all being graded the same way by ALL companies.

[@Shelton_47]

If you submit through a bulk submitter if the card isn’t serial numbered how do you know if your getting your exact card back. So many shady people out there I’d rather pay whatever to submit myself.

[@ryanra44]

The people I use separate them into different order numbers to ensure your card won’t get confused with the same card someone else uses. They also do a video preview and reveal

[@lucycosentino23]

How do u feel about computers, grading cards

[@SouthernBitcoiners]

I like Geoff more every episode.

[@controversialcardchannel]

I lost some respect for you when you turned in a BGS 9 WITH strong subgrades for a bland PSA 9 just for resale value. 5,10 years from now, that's going to look real dumb.

[@jacobfain6504]

I was hoping to hear about the value of BGS 10's vs PSA 10's

[@daleHarrison93]

what about it? its clear to see which sells for more

[@jacobfain6504]

@@daleHarrison93 I've seen PSA 10's selling for the same price if not more than BGS 10's now. 2013 Aaron Judge Bowman Chrome Auto is one example

[@kevinbutler324]

the obvious next step to this discussion is whether those wealthy enough to purchase all the lower priced BGS/SGC/CGC slabs are laughing their asses off at how easy it is to print money by cracking slabs, submitting to PSA and then reselling?? I wasn't near my phone yesterday's but a CGC Conor Bedard in "PRISTINE 10" went for a steal at $92 ...same kind in PSA10 is currently at $305 with 14hrs to go 🤷 smh!! I may get into this practice tbh but the risk of losing $500+ by the errent cracking of a slab puts me off 😱

[@creengrack]

you just discovered arbitrage

[@gregabreu7346]

They up charges are way too high. Some cards have dropped are they lowering there up charges.

[@samuelmariscal4556]

Can anyone tell me about GMA please

[@whitecastle3032]

PSA needs to lower their prices to

[@therookiecardking]

Or just be shut down all together…😂😂😂

[@HarryHardon9]

Just buy cheap graded cards instead of submitting. A rare Tiger Woods Czech Stadion PSA 9 from 2001 sold for $11 on Goldin recently. There's steals out there

[@TW-fv2zu]

Geoff! 💩 Ask Nat Turner - Get me those Nat Turner Friends & Family PSA 10-Grade Discounts! Give em’ out to someone else besides himself!!! Spread that PSA Population Control love….. 💩 💯

[@HarryHardon9]

Yep, don't send multiples of the same card to PSA. They'll just give you all 8's and 9's and one 10 even though they're probably in exactly the same condition.

[@davidhager8964]

I love sgc fast equals $

[@packaddix]

Great valuable info.

[@FirstCatch]

One day… one grading company and no more slab opening for profits. Slabs should have a security tampering seal. The public would feel more confident.

[@scentualobsessions]

I see all the future grading companies will be like tag grading

[@gregorymann3431]

Thanks

[@sybo10]

I'd like to know why grading cost so damn much.

[@evanfraser64]

Card trimmer Jason Koontz friend of the channel.

[@idonttext9783]

great hobby for kids they just need rich parents to buy 1k boxes of crap

[@kevinkwiatkowski2820]

Why not talk to TAG they take the human element out of the equation. Everything is graded by a computer. That to me is the true grade. It sees things that people can't see or things that people see that aren't there. They also give you a digitized record of the card so you can see what was found and the reason it got the grade that it got.

[@MultiBrodeur]

Grading is a cash cow for third party opinions that are inconsistent more so now then ever

[@BillsBigbreakssportscards-cj5e]

I think PSA sucks slabs suck fit and finish sucks but CGC and SGC are way better slabs let stop with the PSA hype

[@fan4life345]

SGC!!!!! LETS GO$$$

[@robs9781]

In the mid 90's nobody gave af about graded cards. It made your card look ugly. Nobody wanted it. Raw was > Graded... Having said that, I should have scooped up all the Jordan rookies for $600 / piece (not a typo)

[@robs9781]

FML

[@jameshughes7068]

Geoff did your facebook get hacked.

[@captainkilos]

timestamps would make this video amazing

[@alabarca8016]

I think I would actually pay a little more for an actual written report.

[@AlwayzFresh]

100% disagree that cards look better in a PSA slab than a one touch, or any other clear permanent protector.

[@wayneburbrink1215]

Still have my original case sgc cards and Beckett cards only sent 10 into psa one was my 86 bonds Tiffany with a 1/2 inch crease on the back it got a 9 I guess a surface wrinkle so I thought psa didn’t grade backs of cards I stoped buying psa in the 90’s

[@josephsciascia217]

First

[@richardperez5075]

Beckett got the best slabs.

[@HarryHardon9]

BGS have the best, CSG second