State of Jefferson (Full Documentary) 2014 | Oregon Experience

[@kurtbradwill]

I took a road trip a while back along the coast from northern WA to LA and back on I5. I found all the Jefferson signage and wondered about it and it’s history. Glad to hear the story!

[@shareonrivas1458]

I LOVE WHEN THAT HAPPENS YOU KEEP THAT QUESTION SORT OF PENDING IN YOUR MIND AND THEN YOU COME ALONG THE ANSWER ALMOST EFFORTLESSLY !!

[@kbanghart]

Jefferson will never be a State in reality!

[@AnthroGuitarist]

@@kbanghart "The United States will never be a country bro just submit to king George!" Very naive view of history man

[@kbanghart]

@@AnthroGuitarist sorry I never said that, not sure who you were talking to

[@tonysamuel4694]

I just learned about Jefferson myself and it makes me wonder what else I don’t know about America. Interesting story and movement.

[@scott9628]

I live in Medford Oregon near the border. With our population growth and political views. You can see the state of Jefferson happening in the next 25 to 50 year's realistically. It takes time.

[@vt100music]

nah, we're sending liberals to medford now cause its got cheap housing. you got no where to take your racist crap. you could always move deeper into the forest, but we all saw how that shit has been burning along i5. keep praying i guess but state of jefferson is the biggest joke in american history, aside from maybe the 'american redoubt'.

[@jordanjohnson9866]

Nah. Not next 25 to 50 year’s realistically. /

[@kbanghart]

@@jordanjohnson9866 so then when?

[@Thedumone3235]

@@kbanghart I'd like to believe that probably in 10 to 20 years due to large statehood movements in DC and Puerto Rico, adding Jefferson would maintain the status quo of bipartisan balance in the Senate.

[@kbanghart]

@@Thedumone3235 actually your comment is one of the most accurate and honest ones I have seen from supporters of this movement. The only way adding a state would happen of course is if the same number of senators from the other major political party would also be added, as you said.

[@russf6572]

The 'founding fathers' gave us the tool to make this happen. Unfortunately, they couldn't give us the backbone to use it at the same time!

[@williamhermann6635]

@@russf6572 Biggest problem is the federal government has become too big.

[@fogpumas]

As a resident, I stand with the State of Jefferson... if not for the simple fact that Gavin Newsom doesn’t give a flying f*ck about us. We need our own state.

[@jimmyjoesmith440]

Are you and your people going afford to run your government etc without federal or Calif/ Oregon state assistance

[@brytanniparrett]

@@jimmyjoesmith440 What?

[@christophereichten9005]

@@brytanniparrett Federal Aid. The federal government provides financial assistance to every state in the union.

[@bryanj7063]

@@jimmyjoesmith440 they will get federal assistance but they will still be dirt poor and assbackward like Mississippi.

[@kbanghart]

@@PuppyCuddler I think the state of Jefferson is dead, bro

[@CharliePamula]

It honestly means a lot to me because I grew up in New Jersey and always loved history i could name every president and state at like 7 or 8 but i was born April 13th same as Former President Jefferson and when my dad passed away my mom and my family drove across the U.S to Sacramento area where my moms side of the family is from and my uncle flying the Jefferson flag and now learning much more about it really just fits right in my life

[@kbanghart]

The state of Jefferson isn't going to happen

[@ape_man504]

Ya you should buy a Jefferson flag, when people ask about it teach them about it. Chances are they’ll become interested and research it themselves. It would really help, also ignore this other guy names Plen, they’re just butthurt

[@AnthroGuitarist]

@@kbanghart ok LAtard

[@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore]

This is probably the dumbest comment I’ve ever read. 😂. Which checks out since it’s about the “state of jefferson” 😂😂

[@billythekid5693]

Started learning of this after buying land in Modoc county. I absolutely support this decision!

[@Danceswithmushrooms]

You should have bought land in Idaho if you wanted to live in Idaho.

[@billythekid5693]

@@Danceswithmushrooms ignorant comment

[@prepperjonpnw6482]

I live in southern Oregon and would love to have a State of Jefferson. It’s that or be part of Greater Idaho. We are such a different people here and really have nothing in common with northern oregon or california.

[@weebeevillaging587]

Right because state boundaries should change with people’s style of the day

[@micmic9410]

@@weebeevillaging587😂

[@micmic9410]

I’m pretty sure the Indians said the same thing. Poor poor your people.

[@EVtripper]

Maybe it's all the meth an crappy roads that messes up the brain.

[@MegaNiQ]

I’ve never been to California or Oregon. But I support this

[@vt100music]

anyone who supports the state of jefferson also supports rampant white incest. ew.

[@FYMASMD]

Keep it that way. There’s enough morons out here already. We don’t need one more.

[@markteeter-hw2lx]

Grew up in north California from Scott where etna brewery is based and the old timers said that the Great Depression really wasn’t so devastating, times were tight but people could find work. In that time the valley had a flour mill , dairy, and like minded local producers. It was a very localized economy without a great deal of job seeking folks transplanting

[@sswcustomsewing4276]

I will say that OPB makes some great documentary films even about mythical states.

[@kchiloquin5570]

My home state. S Oregon my tribe. Born in California back and fourth.Time to get out of welfare land. Help each other out and enjoy life. If the beer 🍻🍺 is not good enough then make it better.

[@heyphilphil]

Aside from whyoming its one of the most beautiful parts of the country. I'm moving to a Jefferson from the bay area. Not taking bay area politics with me. This part of the state doesn't represent me socially or politically. If it ever happened I'd be all for it!!!

[@vt100music]

we're sending bay area folks, cheap housing up there. you think you're getting away but you're just warming the seat for us.

[@frizzz209227]

I see signs, flags, and banners of the State of Jefferson as far south as Fresno county. Not just in the Sierras but down in the San Joaquin Valley. As a valley resident I am very supportive of the State of Jefferson as long as we are a part of it. Sacramento is nothing more than a SF Bay area enclave. The surrounding counties are, in my opinion, in the State of Jefferson. its growing more and more every year since people are realizing that we are not represented by the State of California. Farm country is honored to consider itself part of the State of Jefferson.

[@EVtripper]

Yeah, there are Libertariantards everywhere. They don't think, they just believe.

[@JamesKFuku]

I live in Southern California this is the first time of hearing this. It’s a breath of fresh air. The Government from Federal done to Counties and possibly Cities need to remind themselves that they are working for the People. Not the other way around. They all swore to the Constitution to protect and serve. And here’s Newsom trying to change the constitution and another example outside of California in New Mexico suspending the 2nd Amendment what’s that all about.

[@cassandrarodriguezalmaguer8943]

So ur telling me where my family lives in Oregon is considered “Jefferson state” oh wow.

[@dcosgro1]

JEFFERSON FOREVER

[@leftfield123]

It's common for people to quote Jefferson's statement about the need for rebellion or the one about the west being independent. Rarely do they cite the other founders who thought the ideas were nuts.

[@kbanghart]

State of Jefferson still doesn't exist

[@MeltedPearls]

Kinda crazy, kinda brilliant.

[@Northernraza14.]

US NORTEÑO FROM MEDFORD SUPPORT THE JEFFERSON STATE AND MOVEMENT From tha VALLEY 2 Tha Bay

[@mkptrsn]

I’m surprised I’m not hearing more about Jefferson these days....I think most in NorCal would support breaking away 🤷‍♂️

[@kbanghart]

Then you are thinking wrong, because most of us do not.

[@ElectronHVChannel]

Plen122 wrong, we do.

[@kbanghart]

@@ElectronHVChannel who does? You need to have a majority of people, plus the legislature behind you. How much support do you have?

[@barbarascott828]

Plen122 , it’s not as easy as you put it. We are going about it legally, takes time but it is being done. Many people are on board, 23 counties in fact! The media ignores us, that’s why you don’t hear about Jefferson.

[@kbanghart]

@@barbarascott828 I've seen the media cover it, I've seen the crowds and gatherings in Sacramento for it. I think if you had a lot more people show up it could help. Also, what do you mean by 23 counties are behind it? They haven't voted for it.

[@JETZcorp]

Sigh, if only. Fingers crossed for Greater Idaho.

[@emikke]

Has the time for a Jefferson State come?

[@hyperchaotix32x]

@@emikke more so than ever.

[@ianlim4404]

Good thing it is a state of mind. Most people in Northern California surely will support it. I hear a lot about it, but I'm sorry I'm not in favor for states that self-declares statehood.

[@agvaquero8361]

Love the idea. This would bring me back to California!

[@FYMASMD]

Please stay away. We don’t need any more dummies.

[@calebisaacs4760]

I want Jefferson to be a state

[@hellenicboy4757]

I support the State of Jefferson even though I'm not American. Much love to the State of Jefferson from Greece.

[@PendeltonWhiskey]

If the delusion referred to here as the State of Jefferson were to actually become a reality they wouldn't let you in it. White hillbillies only.

[@FYMASMD]

Malacca!!🙄🖕

[@EdwardRoss-c8r]

Jefferson is necessary

[@momcatx2]

I've wanted to move to Etna, Scott Valley for 30 years. I love it there so much.

[@Meatwad.Baggins]

Build the biggest port on the west coast but build it with accommodation for automated trucks. Next.... more railroads.

[@peacelibertypromiseshomest3441]

Anyone seen the news about Seattle's "Capital Hill Automous Zone"? I may not support their ideologies- but if a group of protestors can make that happen, with no organization, how much more can State of Jefferson succeed from California- with an established flag, declaration of Independence, pending State Constitution, plans for State/Local Defense, peace keeping, defined borders, State Citizenship, branches of government, history/struggle for liberty, ect?

[@kbanghart]

Except that it's not happening. The state of Jefferson can't get enough people organized to do it.

[@bonniea8189]

CHOP has been disassembled.

[@barbarascott828]

Plen122 we are very organized! We’re a true grassroots effort, we depend on pulling together our own funding. Our counties are poor, because of all the regulations that been put upon them. No economy, no jobs. We do not and will not accept donations from elites or corporations that would want favors done when we become the 51st State. We are going about this legally and pay for everything through our donations.

[@kbanghart]

@@barbarascott828 but you need more people

[@ericdillon7467]

You know who Eric and David are.... you've got camp David, you've got America

[@danielcraft3727]

Thought about moving to Jefferson but the sight of the Iron Gate dam on the Klamath was as about as ugly a site of an unhealthy river I have seen too many times now. Hope the salmon runs of all the rivers of Jefferson come back some day. Not a fan of green algae in once crystal clear rivers streams and creeks and lakes. The right to water isn't a right to wanton waste and abuse. California ranchers and farmers, businessmen would suck dry the west before giving up an ounce of water. Bless the rains and floods. Happy Iron Gate and the other dams on the Klamath being torn down. Has to a middle path of "common" sense and sharing and conserving resources. Sacramento be darned to Hades. Waste not want not. Throw away and waste country can't last forever.

[@EVtripper]

Exactly!

[@BluesTube12]

I wish you all the best.

[@Brynden-Rivers]

There will never a state of jefferson sorry. California and oregon both state legislatures woul never vote for it. Imo personally i think they should have the state, but logic would suggest otherwise...

[@ericdillon7467]

It used to extend up to at least Aberdeen Wa.

[@FYMASMD]

Aberdeen!! Now that’s a real dump.😂

[@steventraugh259]

Do people understand the economic consequences of succession? With low or no taxes, how are you going to pay for infrastructure maintenance, national defense, new public construction, libraries, higher education, trade schools, statewide technology networks, airports, and coastal commerce construction?

[@FYMASMD]

They have no clue. It’s quite funny to listen to them try to reason their way through it. Painfully funny. Look up the folks that want to secede eastern Oregon to Idaho. They are really morons. 🙄

[@CappyDash]

The state of Jefferson needs to be independent, and I mean it!

[@Hassingerjeff]

Not gonna happen. The federal government has no incentive to take on the full financial responsibility of a bunch of chronic welfare recipients while simultaneously getting fucked out of as much tax revenue as state of Jefferson lawmakers could get away with. Then there's the inevitable regression of civil rights leading to federal lawsuits that would take up a considerable amount of the department of justice resources, something else they have little incentive to deal with. Ya'll are living in a fantasy world

[@yadidimeanmaine]

@@Hassingerjeff You clearly know jack shit about Jeffersonians. I live in Southern Oregon, and I can tell you that we are certainly not represented by Salem or Sacramento, let alone Portland or San Fran. We work hard. In this area we tend to be center-right libertarian types. We make our own way, and we don't care if you're a gay pot farmer protecting your property with a machine gun. That kinda sums it up.

[@christophereichten9005]

@@yadidimeanmaine His point isn’t about the personal qualities of your fellow residents. His point is that you won’t get a new state because the federal government has no desire to allow that to happen. There is no incentive for them.

[@tylerkriesel8590]

@@Hassingerjeff that’s not what America is supposed to be. You can’t be a state because we can’t milk you for everything you got is fucken evil, I hope your not on that side of history.

[@micmic9410]

@@christophereichten9005😂❤

[@drc-ek2zu]

They complain about support? The per capita spend on political campaigns in New Hampshire is $17.00. In Oregon it's just $ 0.55 cents. So when they want help, just ignore them. The entire state just waits for handouts, so even though district 2 is 2/3rds of the state, the farmers get the free farm bill welfare, and they call themselves Republicans. They all know it all and that is why they will never come together.

[@Fullsendfilosophy]

I'm a blue collar worker and pay my taxes..state of Jefferson rural Oregon working man

[@kbanghart]

@@Fullsendfilosophy Jefferson isn't a state

[@ape_man504]

@@kbanghart Here in the State of Jefferson we don’t see California or Oregon are our states, we see our own Great State of Jefferson

[@yadidimeanmaine]

@@kbanghart Seems like it if you're here, Around here you can tune into JPR (Jefferson Public Radio). We are NOT Salem. We are NOT Sacramento. And we certainly aren't Portland or San Fran. We tend to be a libertarian stronghold. We couldn't give two fucks if a same-sex couple were guarding their pot field with full-auto machine guns and paying no taxes on their sales.

[@kbanghart]

@@yadidimeanmaine libertarians are just Republican lite, aren't they?

[@Sixrabbbit]

State of Jefferson was Modoc, siskiyou and del Norte counties. Don't get ahead of ourselves

[@cameronconnor5735]

As a person that was born and raised in California. Hiked the pct and found myself stuck in this "state". This was the most difficult hitch of my life. The girl that drove me from Saeid to Yreka drove so fast her grandma had to puke out the window. yall do you.

[@ThomasSchwartz-km2nf]

Keep the State of Jefferson mythicle.

[@alicemayhew82]

Hey there! From England

[@samuelcarver1343]

Hey there also from England

[@alicemayhew82]

@@samuelcarver1343How come you're watching this?

[@Steve-zc9ht]

@@alicemayhew82 lol why are you watching this 😂 I'm from Chicago Illinois usa

[@user-ew6rs1tm7z]

I'm all for it. The problem is that it's always going to be urban vs rural. So once it becones a state all the rural people will want to create another state because they're not being represented

[@robforrester3727]

Honestly, the idea of the State of Klamath makes the most sense. Maybe going as far east as Lake County.

[@SarahJacksonLV]

LOVE THIS!

[@vt100music]

hella sad that you do.

[@brytanniparrett]

I'm not usually one to pull the race card especially since I'm white, but I will say that anyone who supports this "state" is probably a racist pos.

[@sal-1337]

you cant stop the movement

[@artm6723]

Immodium?

[@cwd243]

Can't stop the movement? Cali and oregon have, repeatedly, for decades. Lol.

[@sal-1337]

Colt im 21 XDDDDD but okay leftist

[@americanpatriotparty-natio5347]

What would you gain with only one new state ran by another easily federally controlled bureaucracy; You need to expand the interest by giving ALL counties the right to statehood. Oregon became a state with 40,000 to 80,000 people, this should be a MAXIMUM amount of population needed to automatically establish statehood; If your movement put as much effort into encouraging ALL counties to demand statehood, you would have far more support because more communities would benefit. As importantly, breaking up the federal control by making so many states they could not control, you would break up the federal and large state power structures; and in so doing, empower local communities to have the adequate representation the Constitution intended. American Patriot Party .CC National Headquarters www.americanpatriotparty.cc Facebook: facebook.com/AmericanPatriotPartyNationalHeadquarters

[@kbanghart]

@@americanpatriotparty-natio5347 that's what Mark Baird had been trying to do.

[@UntitledSpaghetti2]

Curry & Del Norte counties are the best.

[@Angiebanagie]

The first guy on the video, showed up at a San Diego County Board of Supervisors to rant about covid vaccine

[@TheObviousRealist]

No access to the sea eliminates economic opportunity for the region over 2 states. If this did indeed be come a new state, it would be come poorer than Appalachia lacking any significant tax base. It would be stripped of all its resources (trees, minerals) just to survive. Also the California side is a water grab as the head waters of the Sacramento River start there. Love the idea of the state of Jefferson, but it is not practical to the region or the rest of the US.

[@radwizard]

I'M READY TO MAKE THIS REAL! HOW CAN I HELP?

[@kbanghart]

Send more money. But it won't help

[@ape_man504]

Spread the word, arm yourself, sign petitions, donate. Best thing though, is simply buy a Jefferson flag, when people ask about it teach them about it. Chances are they’ll become interested and research it themselves.

[@kbanghart]

@@ape_man504 Well personally, I am against the idea, but am following it as an outside observer.

[@ape_man504]

@@kbanghart ya but you’re sharing your opinion strongly in these comments when it doesn’t affect you like it effects us here. This isn’t just some political movement, it’s our lives and our children’s lives. The governments of California and Oregon constantly take our tax money and use it for infrastructure projects that in no way help us, they fuck us over constantly

[@Steve-zc9ht]

@@ape_man504 I 100% support this from Chicago ppl in Illinois know how you feel are government is extremely corrupt chicago literally control the whole direction of the state if you don't live in chicago then your vote doesn't matter in Illinois and chicago or the rest of Illinois get no money no support nothing from the illinois state government and California is worse there way to big by land area for there own good there diversity prevents them from function as 1 state Jefferson should become there own state period it will be better for both California and the ppl of Jefferson

[@shnazynick]

When is jefferson becoming a state?

[@peacelibertypromiseshomest3441]

If Capital Hill Autonomous Zone can raise a ruckus, I dont see why Jefferson cant. Jefferson effort is much more organized.

[@peace__777]

@¿K Allayl? I hope that happens. Then the left will have the squalid utopia its always dreamed of and normal pople can get on with their lives. Lol

[@bonniea8189]

@@peace__777 The counties that comprise the State of Jefferson voted for Trump by wide margins in 2016

[@kbanghart]

@@peacelibertypromiseshomest3441 much more organized? Then why don't we see the evidence of this organization?

[@ape_man504]

@@kbanghart anything is more organized than CHAZ. They had a rapper warlord who was handing out guns to random thugs that took complete advantage, they also had racial segregation

[@kronoscart]

This should be on the 2020 voting ballet

[@kbanghart]

It needs money and signatures, both of which they don't have enough of.

[@johnlatham6382]

Hahaha, it was on the 2018 california ballot but the appointed judges decided they knew better than the the citizens and removed it from the ballot

[@peace__777]

@@kbanghart The idea of this new state really triggers you, doesn't it? Hahaha

[@kbanghart]

@@peace__777 Not really because it's not a new state, and won't be. Haha

[@bonniea8189]

There have been multiple attempts to divide California into different states, including ballot measures. They've failed. It wasn't on the 2018 ballot because it was found that the organization collecting signatures to put it on the ballot hadn't collected enough signatures legally.

[@kbanghart]

The state of Jefferson needs more money! Give them more of your hard-earned dollars!

[@johnnash5118]

Plen122 Where are the Jefferson dollars going now? Sacramento and Salem, both up to 200 miles away and “progressive” black holes.

[@kbanghart]

@@johnnash5118 pretty much

[@Toyotas_n__Tools]

@@kbanghart 40 million dollar police station in salem is very needed! pshh

[@kbanghart]

@@Toyotas_n__Tools but then Trumpers complain about not enough police presence! Lol

[@bonniea8189]

@@johnnash5118 Sacramento progressive? That's funny

[@EVtripper]

Yes to Bioregionalism. No to a flag with a double cross. Check out the Bioregional map that John W. Powell came up with that didn't draw straight lines along lines of latitude.

[@velwheel3135]

It is not just lore. We still want representation by other than big city government.

[@kbanghart]

That's the choice you make to live where you do

[@ape_man504]

@@kbanghart stfu. All deserve equal representation, shouldn’t be based on where you live

[@JacobBigYankee]

We need this in NY.

[@vt100music]

then you'll have to win that representation democratically. its how democracy works. 10000 votes vs 100000 means you lose. read a civics book?

[@kbanghart]

@@vt100music they think it should be based on the electoral college even down to the local level LOL

[@ericdillon7467]

Does Jefferson have an Alcotraz system? Eric

[@FYMASMD]

What ?????

[@JohnFoley1701]

Surprised coos county wasn’t a part of it.

[@mr.rhinehart410]

The keyword is “Mythical” state of Jefferson. mythical : existing only in the imagination. That is as far as it gets but not based on reality.

[@OGRocker1]

Now were talking .... proud to live in the state of Jefferson. XX To bad we have flat landers from the north telling thier version of the truth. Despite what you say, it is ...

[@vt100music]

proud cause you ain't got nothin real to be proud of but a fake state that will never happen

[@kixigvak]

California will soon return to Mexico.

[@steventraugh259]

I understand the desire of the people to have their own state, but I have to wonder how inclusive it would have been. I didn't see one minority (non-white) person in this contemporary 2014 documentary - no Native American, Asian, Hispanic, or Black people were represented. Just how free and welcoming would the State of Jefferson have been if it had become an independent state (even today).

[@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore]

Probably about as welcoming as the guy they want to name it after was. 😂

[@poppygoldensun]

It's really just another attempt at what the Oakies tried to do in California - create a white utopia.

[@xyeB]

They are welcoming.

[@jasonmay6368]

I'd be like Idaho. A fever dream for white supremacy.

[@fffmcfff9112]

the PNW is one of the whitest areas of the country, you shouldn't be that surprised

[@Trish.O-q3h]

I have a State of Jefferson T-shirt. When I wear it, people know. I live in WA State. Picked it up driving thru.

[@josephbattaglia3690]

what would be needed of government to make the state of Jefferson a legitimate state?

[@sefarsogood]

Jefferson Airplane knew: It's our Fault.

[@lightbeingform]

Secessionists of today refuse infrastructure, education, and regulation and just want risky high-paying extraction jobs, a check, or free land instead. It makes sense if you're living day-to-day rural and plan to stay there. But I don't agree that that's government's job.

[@Normie2388]

We should call it “liberty” and just call it the state of liberty to 51st state make it a libertarian strong hold

[@brianrhodebeck6465]

let's make a state I'm ready Glendale Jefferson

[@ericdillon7467]

I haven't seen it called Jefferson on like 9 earths! Eric

[@radwizard]

JEFFERSON STATE #JEFFERSONSTATE #JEFFERSONSTATENOW PATRIOTS FOR JEFFERSON STATE! TIME TO SNAP OREGON AND CALIFORNIA IN HALF! JEFFERSON STATE NOW!

[@radwizard]

@TriplePlay go ahead and tread. If you want to get bite. What are you waiting for? Considering this Country is on the Verge of a Civil War and a massive Exodus out of California, and another very strong movement emerging called "New California" anything is possible. Specially with the Rise Of Marxist on The West Coast. Jefferson has never been closer to reality. Either way I am 100% for breaking up California. PR and DC want to be a State, California can be broken up.

[@vt100music]

hey your capslock is on and you sound like you're tweeking

[@carlousmagus5387]

I don't have any issues with forming a new state.

[@vt100music]

me neither - which is why i think we should annex peurto rico. state of jefferson is kinda dumb tho, i think if that happens the us military should put them down.

[@estherthorp1608]

Diversity will be missing with that you become small oregon is vast and beautiful I like seeing all colors and cultures with equally for every age for all people

[@moepow8160]

I move up here in Shasta co. a few years ago and it is different then the urban areas. People up here don't pay a lot of attention to silly laws & mandates, they just don't care. When the pandemic hit you could hardly tell there was one. Stores, gas stations, etc were absent mask signs. Some might have wrote a few words on a piece of paper and any government building had all the signage and rules for masks. Building codes for out structures were ignored, my towns are unincorporated and property owner are very serious about their property lines...don't cross them without permission. Now the Marijuana growers are up here in spring, can't grow dope in the snow, but eventually they get busted. It is quite, peaceful, and not too expensive it was much better before the economy went down the tube. But the people are resourceful, if wood is too hight then cut your own, the county will let you cut some wood with a inexpensive permit. There's a lot of water wells up here with plenty of water. No sirens, traffic, airplane, etc. The toughest things I'd say are wild animals, be very careful going out at night I was attacked getting my mail one night. And the snow if you have a blower its not too bad if not, pick up a snow shovel...if you let you place go to heck I guess it's easy living, but if you keep your property up it's a lot of work and will last longer unlike the others, the weather will take its toll on everything. And you might make it through the fires. I guess it's all in how you want to live. If you pick the right spot to live, town is not far and you can shop, eat, and get medical attention... just about anything you want then drive back home and relax.

[@ericdillon7467]

Well it used to have the locks in it and some of the Wa. Military bases too! Eric of America Appalachia had another state before too...

[@patsyspry6248]

I’m a native Oregonian, who prefers living in the DEEP SOUTH!

[@jacobbutler6049]

You must not of lived in Oregon to long the south is way to hot to live in if you was raised in the northwest

[@cwd243]

From back water GA. Now in OR. You should love the south. Same racist old white jesus freaks. Just a rebel flag instead of the XXs. Lol.

[@jacobbutler6049]

I'm native American don't think u would

[@Ken2234]

Bit by bit

[@yetimelly523]

N Cali citizens who want to be governed by conservatives need to work on turning Humboldt & Del norte counties into pro "Greater Idaho" voters. Need younger organizers to rally the people. Talk about "State of Jefferson" should be tabled until the break up or secession of Cal.

[@vt100music]

which is never gonna happen. i suggest you state of jefferson folks just hold your breath. no really, hold it. please. until you pass out if that's what it takes. then wake up and start holding your breath again. do this until you break up cali, lololol.

[@cosmo1eleven855]

VT100..... Spoken like a true status quo automaton.

[@brookingsbeachcomber]

sounds like all the same reasons Trump got elected...

[@kbanghart]

Trumpers say their orange god is the very best president ever, and the country is doing incredibly awesome. and then in the next sentence they'll say that their lives are horribly awful because of California. They can't make their minds up.

[@davewilliams5102]

@@kbanghart Plen Please take your Liberals Views off of this Vidoe. Stay in Shiy* Cali..

[@kbanghart]

@@davewilliams5102 no, I've infected these videos with my libtard commie views 😁

[@bonniea8189]

@@davewilliams5102 There are State of Jefferson flags in California too, even south of Sacramento.

[@barbarascott828]

Colt there will be taxation in the State of Jefferson, the difference is that it will not be taxation that is more than it needs to be. We will not over tax everything like California is doing to us now!

[@ericdillon7467]

Sometimes America makes an Ericson too, ;) America

[@jazz4asahel]

Where do the tax dollars go? Seemingly NOT to roads and schools.

[@scotmclean5124]

SOJ! 😊

[@ts109]

Wow i had no idea how loony people are in that region.

[@ericdillon7467]

Like the city of Jackson, most likely named for Jackson, who was Jack? Was he a good guy? Lol

[@ericdillon7467]

Well who was Jeff? Or Sam? You didn't know Torjes.... ;) Eric of America

[@finncampbell4662]

I love that they started their little “rebellion” 10 fucking days before we entered WW2 lmao

[@weebeevillaging587]

It’s been over 100 years, why hasn’t the state of Jefferson created a tax base that has increased their lot in life. Why is the state of Jefferson still so dependent on the tax base of their states largest cities. Why are they still a welfare state? Where will they get the funds to pay their respective states for the infrastructure the largest metropolitan areas have paid for. Are Oregon and California just supposed to give this up with no compensation?

[@mathlover2299]

some call it Nor Nor Cal

[@yetimelly523]

Let California secede and name Jefferson 50th state.

[@DinoCon]

Better yet, give Hawaii it's independence back and have Jefferson be the new 50th. Two bull's-eyes, one arrow.

[@yetimelly523]

@@DinoCon Could work as well

[@lizabethrobison4566]

I live in this area (northern California). I do NOT believe in nor do I embrace this delusion, even as the joke it is!

[@paxwallace8324]

Well 1st I hittchiked to Berkeley Ca in 1980 then spent some time hanging out with a bunch of pot growing hippies at the Josephine County CoOp around Grants Pass Oregon for around 6mos then hitched to Seattle where I went to Cornish and became a jazz pianist in Europe eventually. But Yeah sure Jefferson why not🦧

[@joelmckinney16]

No income, sales, or liquor (!) tax; all infrastructure (the lack of which was the primary impetus of secession to begin with!) would be paid for by taxes levied on other vices, specifically prostitution and gambling (meaning that these vices have to be legalized and supported adequately or there will be an inadequate tax base). I wonder if/how this plan/perspective has evolved.

[@matthewwolf3531]

"were different from the rest of the state, and remember that." Yep. Oregon and California get a real bad rap by outsiders, but a lot of people dont understand that the people in this part are very different. I have to say, this is the most libertarian section of the country there is. They hate taxes, love guns, work hard, are family orientated and of good character. They also think pot should be able to pretty much do as you please so long as you are not hurting anyone else. Unfortunately, places like Redding, Medford, and Grants Pass are in Oregon and California, and not their own state of Jefferson. Homelessness is the worst issue with this area. Get rid of the liberal policies protecting drug addicts and mentally ill people and we could clean the streets up. It honestly is one of the most beautiful places in the Country in my opinion, and industry is growing around the Rouge Valley area where I live.

[@yadidimeanmaine]

I grew up in the Rogue Valley. We tend to lean center-right libertarian. I think that same-sex couples should be able to legally guard their pot farms with machine guns and pay no tax on their yield. That pretty much sums it up.

[@matthewwolf3531]

@@yadidimeanmaine ya exactly.

[@thoughtsurferzone5012]

I'm up for it if Puerto Rico, Guam and D.C. are also included. And quite honestly, the rest of California needs to be divided, too.

[@Steve-zc9ht]

I 100% agree California is way to big in land area for no reason

[@matthewbolton4289]

East of the cascadea are 90% republicans. West of cascades are predominately democrats. All but 3 countys in oregon are red. But we have to live by what thise 3 countys want. Its egregious!

[@bold810]

Does Anyone, ANYONE THAT REMEMBERS B.E. SMITH? NO SMITH, NO JEFFERSON.

[@matthius1692]

I’m from Sacramento I’d move to the state of Jefferson tomorrow if it came to be. I wouldn’t bring any of my city’s moronic politics with me either.

[@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore]

You know you can move there now right? 😂 like it’s not like the area doesn’t exist. You can literally go there right now. 😂

[@matthius1692]

The state of Jefferson doesn’t exist. If I move to Chico I’m still in California. That was the whole point of this video. They want the state of Jefferson to be separate from California and Oregon.

[@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore]

@@matthius1692 yea but if the attitudes there reflect your views more than your current cities “moronic” policies than why not just move to that part of California/Oregon? Or anywhere else. There’s literally 49 other states you could choose to live in. You don’t have to be like: “if this mythical fantasy land opened I would move there…. But sadly I am stuck where I am.”

[@matthius1692]

@@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore So I guess we're doing a 60 minutes on my youtube comment. Alright well almost everyone I know is in norcal so moving to another state would be problematic. I see no benefit moving up there just because their views are similar to mine. This video brought up a concept where a border (not far from me) would become part of a new state of Jefferson. So I left a comment on the video saying if the state of Jefferson came to be I would move there. Its a pretty simple comment. I didn't say anything about mystical fantasylands. Im sorry your having such a hard time grasping it. How do I make it simpler for you?

[@iwritechecksatthegrocerystore]

@@matthius1692 it’ll never exist without people making the move. Come on now. Do you think America would exist if the pilgrims had stayed in holland and been like “well I guess I’ll go if someone else founds it”? Hell would California exist if everyone on these east coast had gone: “what? They found gold? Well… that sounds cool but… look I need some infrastructure and a federally recognized state government before I’m willing to go.” ?

[@AlexM-ki4ex]

I lived in Jacksonville OR and the state of Jefferson is the stupidest idea ever. Just be an Oregonian or Californian. Keep wishing for a state to grow meth, pot, and hillbillies. Hate to break it to you but before the colonizers came this region had its own name personality and that didn’t involve the silly stay of Jefferson.

[@MattCookOregon]

Agree! Hey Jacksonville?! Know of any good old goldmine history spots over there?

[@kbanghart]

@@colt236 which part of it is good?

[@cwd243]

Nothing like listening to "jefferson" public radio while driving on "dead indian" road. smh.

[@kbanghart]

@@cwd243 lol wow

[@quantum7690]

@@colt236 alot of "Jeffersons" are pot growers and they want freedom to do so

[@andrewdisney8475]

Can I find a Wife there?

[@americanpatriotparty-natio5347]

What would you gain with only one new state ran by another easily federally controlled bureaucracy; You need to expand the interest by giving ALL counties the right to statehood. Oregon became a state with 40,000 to 80,000 people, this should be a MAXIMUM amount of population needed to automatically establish statehood; If your movement put as much effort into encouraging ALL counties to demand statehood, you would have far more support because more communities would benefit. As importantly, breaking up the federal control by making so many states they could not control, you would break up the federal and large state power structures; and in so doing, empower local communities to have the adequate representation the Constitution intended. American Patriot Party .CC National Headquarters www.americanpatriotparty.cc Facebook: facebook.com/AmericanPatriotPartyNationalHeadquarters

[@barbarascott828]

American Patriot Party - National Headquarters you would have to have counties with a large enough population that could support it as a state. Mariposa’s population is only 18,000 people, economically one of the poorest counties. There is no way we could fund or establish statehood.

[@xse-qb2vv]

LoL °lifetime Ca resident

[@idicula1979]

Their is freedom in Jefferson, just not for black people.