I was thinking about taking a trip to the 'Ring' but having watched many videos of idiotic and dangerous driving, I'm going to give it a hard pass. Such a shame too as I've always wanted to do a lap.
@Hans829622 ай бұрын
@@dappergent9422 same thought... wanted to bring my MX5 NA there... i don't dare it due to other people
@sub7up.2 ай бұрын
Pussies...
@davidaitch-222 ай бұрын
@@dappergent9422likewise. Never going near it thanks to these videos. If it was a track day perhaps, but the standard of driving across all types of car is shockingly bad and you can’t predict what others will do no matter how careful you are yourself. So thanks SSC for saving me a hefty repair bill.
@ghpsrd2 ай бұрын
Yeah 12:08
@brendanperkins95942 ай бұрын
That el-camino drifted that corner with elegance... good control over such a heavy automobile
@wanabevideographer16132 ай бұрын
Why dont people stop immediately when their car is smoking? Its better to stop somewhere on the side rather than limping home leaking fluids over the streets where multiple people can slip on it
@Orvieta2 ай бұрын
Cause BMW drivers.
@Racingwespe2 ай бұрын
true and if they loose Oil it gonna be expensive
@Hans829622 ай бұрын
@@Racingwespe really? I did read on even grass seeds that they charge? There are people all over te track reporting license plates to the people at the exit?
@Racingwespe2 ай бұрын
@@Hans82962 They have Ai Cameras all over the Track.
@Hans829622 ай бұрын
@@Racingwespe wow Didnt know that. And still... So many drifters that drive more than 1 lap
@CapulloSpawnАй бұрын
80% of the drivers in this video would have to be banned from driving on the race track. Some people can't even follow the simple rules of the Nürburgring.
@samuelpac19622 ай бұрын
6:11 I think that was hella save and crazy entrance maaan like niiiice
@JacquesTrekhaak692 ай бұрын
It's freddy loix(Belgian former WRC driver) def knew what he was doing, trust me😅
@PoseidonsKiss2 ай бұрын
@@JacquesTrekhaak69 The one behind that red beamer kinda looks like OG Schaefen (im not sure if that's how you spell it)
@kris18shadow2 ай бұрын
I rate that entrance as DEJA VU, I've just been in this place before!
@aikhaa9962 ай бұрын
@@JacquesTrekhaak69 Its not him. It's Mathieu Sentis. Official pilot from Largus (French automotive media) They put the video of the entire lap and you can see this save from inside
@mc_mongobongo2 ай бұрын
@@PoseidonsKiss the white skyline r35 is OG Schaefchen (22:05)
@Byley-e7h2 ай бұрын
6:12 crazy entry speed but it looked like the guy was in full control too me ? Respect 👍
@JacquesTrekhaak692 ай бұрын
freddy loix(Belgian former WRC driver), crazy what he is capable of
@badzazak2 ай бұрын
6:11 bro have skills
@donttouchthewatch6452 ай бұрын
ex-WRC driver
@FreakoRico9992 ай бұрын
Is it just me, or is it getting worse and worse with bad drivers around the Ring lately..??
@Jean-Paul_19842 ай бұрын
It’s not you. The Ring became a place where annoying people come to show off. It used to be a “hidden” gem for pure car enthusiasts years ago. Things have changed thanks to more online attention
@mrxrmn83642 ай бұрын
@@Jean-Paul_1984 realtalk
@WARXion2 ай бұрын
It might feel like that, but sometimes watch old (60s, 70s) footage of the Nürburgring... nothing changed really. People were flipping their Beetles, Porsches back then, it was always mental.
@delboy17272 ай бұрын
Doing a lap around the 'ring was always on my bucket list, but not so much now. Can't believe how aggressive and selfish some of the drivers are now. No respect or consideration for other users.
@tahditon94082 ай бұрын
Rolf, Rudolf, Horst and Patrik?
@nelisvanwieren95082 ай бұрын
That 911 Dakar going off into a sand trap is probably the only off-roading it will ever see......
@nyhcbd2 ай бұрын
16:25 nicely done!
@Orvieta2 ай бұрын
The Darwinism in this video is mindbogglingly high.
Ай бұрын
Well, this was one of the most interesting videos I've seen in a long time. All kind of drivers are here, most of them not agressive, they only can't drive and misjudge the corner, get understeer and then desperately try to correct it. Others are really agressive, while others just unlucky and facing some technical issues... Nice video.
@Gamen4Bros2 ай бұрын
The people overtaking on the right side is pissing me off.. u can ONLY do that on TRACK DAYS. This is so dangerous
@makifrable2 ай бұрын
Exactly, smooth brain moment, as they risk their health, the troublesome driver's health as well as everyone around. They also risk ending their Touristenfahrten right after the marshalls notice the behavior.
@CrashTherapy2 ай бұрын
21:20 - two lovers Saturday driving
@ZoomR-o9iАй бұрын
That Porsche was waay too close to the motorcycle. Yikes!
@gordocarboАй бұрын
My thoughts also that coulda been fatal. Hope the bike rider confronted the P driver!!
@PolskaDreamer2o1o2 ай бұрын
10:29 my guy wanted that dakar feeling
@enclavex692 ай бұрын
I’ve said it before but I’m never buying a 2nd hand BMW after watching SSC 😮
@danielshinerock15262 ай бұрын
Exactly. If the car has not been abused and ruined you still have the stigma of driving the brand that these cretins drive.
@АлексЛеший-ъ8юАй бұрын
Я после просмотра этого видео и новую не куплю.
@Bigrig2020-c1d10 күн бұрын
BMW just sucks in general
@danielshinerock152610 күн бұрын
@@Bigrig2020-c1d Completely agree.
@nogame942 ай бұрын
6:10 jesus what an entry. guy has them skills. them m4s killin it out there as well
@donttouchthewatch6452 ай бұрын
ex-WRC driver
@aslkdjfzxcv97792 ай бұрын
lol the el camino. awesome
@TripleX-j2b2 ай бұрын
Manche der Freizeit Sennas haben nicht alle Latten am Zaun!
@Kanae19862 ай бұрын
Junge junge da haben aber ein paar zuviel in racing sim spiele geschaut. Wenn ich 10 jahre zurück denke wo ich die erstenmale die Nordschleife befahren bin. Toller Respekt unter einander, vernünftiges überholen nix halsbrecherisches. Aber gutes sinnbild der heutigen zeit: ich ich ich 😮
@Mills_Circle2 ай бұрын
💯
@CerberusTenshi2 ай бұрын
Heute will ja auch jeder Hans auf KZbin berühmt werden. Und da macht es sich natürlich gut, wenn Kanäle wie dieser hier solches Fehlverhalten oft zeigen. Da steigen die Chancen für Ruhm und Ehre, oder Schande, je nachdem, wie man es sehen mag.
@Cruegge991Ай бұрын
Ist es nicht eigl so das "Rennen" fahren oder auf Zeit fahren eigl verboten ist während der Touristenfahrten? Man sieht ja trotzdem gefühlt jeden zweiten dort auf Zille fahren.
@CerberusTenshiАй бұрын
@@Cruegge991 Ja, ist offiziell verboten. Eigentlich sind auch Kameras im Auto verboten, damit man nicht in Versuchung gerät auf Zeit zu fahren. Das kann man aber mit etwas Geld an der Kasse umgehen, in dem man sich dann dafür eine Genehmigung kauft.
@vertigoEdits2 ай бұрын
15:27 lol this guy "checking" his wheels as if there's something wrong when the problem is the driver, like most people who drive these cars
@gremlicious2 ай бұрын
not content with being stupid enough to cause a track obstruction, then goes and starts inspecting the car on the verge of a live circuit. absolute darwin material
@gavcom40602 ай бұрын
@@vertigoEditslol poorly balanced? No that’s just the driver not reacting fast enough
@vertigoEdits2 ай бұрын
@@gremlicious he had to check it right there so that the people who saw him fuck up see him check his wheels. literally insane
@FreakoRico9992 ай бұрын
He stopped at exactly the spot where they always film... Just trying to fool the internet "see, i'm checking my wheels, that's why i was spinning the last lap"
@MyRealName2 ай бұрын
He did some stupid things but at 15:02 you can see the wheel wobble. He kept going and stopped later to check it and it really seems something was off. You people need to stop projecting your stupid mentality on others.
@mapolinski2 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t bring my car within a mile of these drivers
@Jean-Paul_19842 ай бұрын
Totally agree. And it only got worse in recent years
@АлексЛеший-ъ8юАй бұрын
Я думал такая тенденция только в России, но нет эта беда похоже во всем мире🤚
@darrenberkey7017Ай бұрын
That's gotta be a sickening feeling to go out on the Nurburgring only to blow your engine.
@FeinstaubRacing2 ай бұрын
Many drivers without any respect for this lovely and dangerous racetrack or to other drivers… I’m speechless. Touristenfahrten went more and more to a circus for drivers without any brain.
@willbill8082 ай бұрын
The GTR was my favorite skill moment, that AWD slide was just right. Not excessive and very quick!
@Albertvh1997Ай бұрын
Its a drift youtuber called og schaefchen
@MrVuJaDe2 ай бұрын
8:16 what a clown, people are having fun filming and you give them the finger.
@CerberusTenshi2 ай бұрын
Giving someone the finger is actually fined with 150€ and a point on your driver's license in Germany.
@Dukes36772 ай бұрын
@CerberusTenshi I'm all for not being a deek ed but a fine cause of finger is a crazy over reach...
@CerberusTenshi2 ай бұрын
@Dukes3677 The very first rule in German traffic law is to be respectful of each other. Giving someone the finger is simply not that. Given, that a car is a dangerous contraption, if you can't handle it emotionally or mentally, to be around other people, you shouldn't drive. So punishmebt for those that are unable to control themselves is perfectly fine. And the fine is mostly there to hopefully detere people from giving someone the finger. Some people only learn, if it hurts in the wallet.
@pkd192 ай бұрын
More money then brains,likewise also for that idiot green Porsche GT3 driver..
@CORNHEADX2 ай бұрын
Its clearly some dudes just joking around or something like that, didnt look serious at all
@indyzed98972 ай бұрын
Hands-down, one of the best episode yet. Lots of stupid.
@Apro6662 ай бұрын
humanity at its best :D
@xXCOR3Xx2 ай бұрын
at the bmw dealership you have to go through intensive training before buying one to become the most egofilled driver possible
@320iSTWEdition2 ай бұрын
You got that the wrong way around...... these brands attract people you described like moths to the fire. The cars don't make these people...... they have already been that way looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong before they had the funds to buy a car screaming what they truly are.
@Michael-MiB2 ай бұрын
8:00 Zum respektvollen Miteinander gehört auch, den Kies aus Aremberg eben nicht bis hinter Adenauer Forst über die gesamte Strecke zu verteilen! 🤬 Gleiches gilt für Öl... 11:35 🫣😱
@asquatch74382 ай бұрын
Respekt kennen doch nur noch die Wenigsten
@ViwiPL2 ай бұрын
Zakopane to musieli zakopać auto w żwirze
@ViwiPL2 ай бұрын
Man's for Zakopane Plate's KTT = Zakopane
@technicalscience2 ай бұрын
When people think their X 'M' is a sports car... It's a fast SUV, not a Ring toy!
@bobriley0004442 ай бұрын
people who park in a run off zone and get out of the car and stand next to it should be perma banned
@ndcoward2 ай бұрын
the amount of audisteer close calls, wrecked BMW SUVs, and Renaults pouring smoke from the exhaust is truly mind boggling
@BasedF-15Pilot2 ай бұрын
@03:47 Imagine driving a nice Porsche and almost getting taken out by some dude driving his wife's car on the track.
@maxreimann67342 ай бұрын
Are we just not gonna talk about the V10 5 series wagon at 17:14?? Incredible
@Pavel-palavel2 ай бұрын
Nope
@michalsobanski23882 ай бұрын
Oh look, the person in front of me has got full lock to the right and is understeering. I know! Better undertake him! The level of retardation in Touristenfahrten these days is absolutely mindblowing.
@marcdetemple30692 ай бұрын
16:25 Wie hab ich denn das geschafft?!
@muckvariant2 ай бұрын
Sieht man auf jeden Fall nicht häufig :)
@Stels05072 ай бұрын
B5 🎉
@pppcorn2 ай бұрын
epic driving
@dsl56932 ай бұрын
VW Passat 4.0 W8 4Motion 275CV
@Pasloooo2 ай бұрын
rare footage of any WV car going sideways :DDD
@Instarentner2 ай бұрын
1:02 nice move to correct the tirepressure on track 😅.
@waltergotz641121 күн бұрын
Da werden Seifenkisten zur Formel Eins !!!
@RolandKaos2 ай бұрын
Some absolute fail driving here. Just because you can afford the car don't mean you should drive it here.
@Juggernaut302 ай бұрын
Ich weiss schon warum ich da nicht mehr fahre. Das Maß an Blödheit und zuviel Leistung ist die letzten Jahre exobitant gestiegen.
@320iSTWEdition2 ай бұрын
Die Touristenfahrten werden dieses Jahrzehnt eh nicht überleben...... ab spätestens 2030 sind dort unter Garantie nur noch geschlossene Veranstaltungen zugelassen...... den Grund dafür sieht man in diesem Video eindrucksvoll.
@gottlobwut4742Ай бұрын
Zuviel Aggression. Zuwenig Respekt. Zuwenig Rücksicht. Schnellfahren auf der Schleife ist vollkommen i.O. Aber der prozentuale Anteil der kognitiv teilmöblierten steigt leider von Jahr zu Jahr.
@The_One_Over_There2 ай бұрын
12:00, Really dude? There's a thing you can back into right across from there.. Go, THERE. It's literally right there. Sitting on that spot is just asking for someone to slide into you and your car.
@itz_matteomania2 ай бұрын
16:25 skills!
@rubenramos-wp4nw14 күн бұрын
6:10 yooo that was CLEAN!!!! Bro‘s got skill!!!!!
@AsqueN2 ай бұрын
1:19 that license plate really matches the driver
@modellfliegermitherz97122 ай бұрын
6:10 that Yaris is no joke
@thorstenh.63042 ай бұрын
Hope that all this drifting idiots are getting reported at the end. As far as i know or remember, drifting is not allowed as a tourist. Do us all a favour and report these idiots.
@CralluxАй бұрын
yepp, but according to my experience either nobody reports them or they don't want to ban them.
@Flamebeard08152 ай бұрын
4:23 Here's to hoping no one will rat out the driver of the Europcar rental Audi Q2 for violating the terms of service and endangering others with his way of driving...
@BeansGummy2 ай бұрын
6:11 you gotta admit though that drift was crazy
@nenres2 ай бұрын
i see yellow plates
@michak31302 ай бұрын
Why is there such white smoke coming from behind several cars in this movie? Is the head gasket blown, or is it another problem?
@gurtner2 ай бұрын
is it only me or are the driving standards at the tf really shit right now?
@mcgoo7212 ай бұрын
1:40 that Opel Corsa (i think?) out here thinking hes competing for points 😂
@Redfur-Ай бұрын
2:29 " Why so Serious?" on the back of that Renault LOL
@seba34202 ай бұрын
10:01 is he recording or sending a voice message??
@Oceanprotect2 ай бұрын
Or Pov with phone xd
@JulietHotelFoxtrotАй бұрын
12:15 dude looking at for the tire as if he's going to slip it back on like a sock. BRO IT'S GONE. FOREVER. 15:02. Nice to see Swedish Camaro drivers are the same as American Camaro drivers.
@Imarac86Ай бұрын
15:02 Swedish driver..
@JulietHotelFoxtrotАй бұрын
@@Imarac86 It's spreading farther and faster than I thought. This is worrisome.
@Bigrig2020-c1d10 күн бұрын
They don’t handle like a corvette I’ll tell you that
@JulietHotelFoxtrot10 күн бұрын
@@Imarac86 thank you. I do not have an eye for EU plates. My mistake.
@freggs49062 ай бұрын
I think there should be serious penalties for people who have this attitude of wanting to get past as soon as possible no matter what. Boggles my mind some of these drivers will see the car in front of them losing control and see that as an opportunity to overtake. It doesn't matter what the guy ahead is doing, the onus is on them to get past safely.
@somename88312 ай бұрын
17:10 Removed the plates for some nice insurance fraud. :)
@gordocarboАй бұрын
Bet he has his celphone with him though.
@user-wh7hs2bc6m2 ай бұрын
Hi, amazing how many " hidden " race drivers are in the World!😊
@Omarock2 ай бұрын
6:52 exactly why you don't pass on the right...
@ashr27942 ай бұрын
COC KY 36 couldn‘t have chosen a more fitting numberplate
@DashCamSerbia2 ай бұрын
I've never been on any track so far. I was always wondering, since I only have one car (Alfa Romeo 159 2.2 JTS saloon), do brake pads and tyres get worn out (need replacing afterowds) on the track? Like after say 5-6 laps on a short track or 1 lap at the ring?
@in4merATP2 ай бұрын
Please tell me there are repercussions for people refusing to keep right, like no one is behind them
@luboskopecky67172 ай бұрын
Many drivers get carried away there, they drive to the limit, and not only do they not know the track well, but they don't even know their own car and in fact they don't know how to drive well. I've personally seen it many times and several times I've avoided a collision by just a few minutes - either I reached it or it happened behind me (once I watched it in my rear view mirror)
@manoloh2 ай бұрын
13:15 eso si, pero ha saludado xD
@CralluxАй бұрын
I was several times on the Nordschleife and let me tell you that 80 percent of my laps had at least 1/3 of the track yellows everytime. 😅 Despite creators not allowed to show it, many people still crash. I will still return to it because it's addictive 😂. My tip: If you never raced in your life, get a coach and drive the Schleife with him giving you tips. The goal is to have fun, not time trials. Always take into consideration that people don't see you. So drive accordingly.
@amodinho3215 күн бұрын
I was there two years ago. I think that it's one of the most dangerous track in Europe. The question is that if you beat any gardrail, they make you pay for repairing them. Or change... But my question is. If you get out to the sand/stones, and you get the concrete dirty, do they make you pay for cleaning the track?. Or is it only when your beat the barriers...? Or let some oil on the track... Thanks. I'm not going to come back soon. Cos I live more than 2k km away . And it's too many time and money for going to that track. And there are too many drivers with any driving skills or too aggressive....
@jeromeandcars43902 ай бұрын
the yaris gr drift at 6:10 is glorious!!!
@Hans829622 ай бұрын
Many turbo's were harmed in this video...
@tenout2 ай бұрын
At 21:20 Green Porsche: raising the middle finger Netizen: He thinks he's fast! 😂
@iaketano60242 ай бұрын
Was that OG Schaeffchen in the white GTR?
@matz4k2 ай бұрын
6:10 I'm not even mad
@donttouchthewatch6452 ай бұрын
ex-WRC driver
@fridaycaliforniaa2362 сағат бұрын
Ona track day, the Nurb' is a dream. On a public day, it's a real nightmare...
@VinylgloveАй бұрын
Der Typ mit seinem kleinen Opel 😂
@tmmtmm2 ай бұрын
1:20 the license plate could not be more appropriate
@CerberusTenshi2 ай бұрын
Drives like a maniac, makes a mistake and then blames the other driver. Unfortunately, typical BMW behaviour.
@Got_braaaaap...2 ай бұрын
I wonder what he was yelling...
@tagixD2 ай бұрын
Was ein Clown. Der GTI macht, im zu sehenden Abschnitt, doch alles richtig. Evtl. bremst er zu früh, daher das ausweichen. Ein bisschen mehr Abstand hätte die Situation aber ganz locker entschärft.
@stefanschmidt66072 ай бұрын
5:02 beeindruckende reaktion
@Techjunkiero2 ай бұрын
How odd! @1:19 the BMW driver living up to its reputation.
@tokyotoppАй бұрын
16:27 😮 That’s Godly control 😮
@Willard197022 күн бұрын
10:25 That's a cool Tesla Model 3 ❤
@brentpowell78892 ай бұрын
Drive like that on a track in the UK , banned instantly, no wonder there are some many accidents 🤦♂️
@ZenzDeluxe2 ай бұрын
I have a feeling some bans were definitely given for some drivers seen here. Especially the Audi driver that drove right next to a marshal and ignored the signage.
@janr81442 ай бұрын
Usually the Cars with the yellow plates are the worst... Like they never learned good behaviour.
@Dragobrath2 ай бұрын
@@ZenzDeluxe I was actually wondering what was he supposed to do there. Stop and wait for marshal to get the cones, or drive past the cones on the left? Was it indicated with the sign on the car?
@bundesnachrichtendienslАй бұрын
1:29 - Benimmt sich wie 1 Pimmel und auf dem Kennzeichen steht "COC KY". Kannste dir nicht ausdenken hahahaha
@moritzschulte5127Ай бұрын
The El Camino drift is crazy
@Gryfflovesmemes2 ай бұрын
4:43 what was he DOING bro
@renatocamino7219Ай бұрын
Si je casse ma voiture sur ce circuit, comment ça se passe avec l'assurance ?
@Dukes36772 ай бұрын
Ngl 6:10 that gr sent it pretty damn smooth lmao
@renevanderkraats38112 ай бұрын
Surprising to see how many think it's a great idea to overtake in a tight or unexpected spot someone who's clearly not in control of his car at that moment.
@marcow.55012 ай бұрын
Wenn es mal bei einem Rechtsüberholer knallt dann geschieht es dem recht. Tut einem dann nur leid um den anderen. Gibt nicht ohne Grund Regeln. Und beschweren und jammern brauchen die sich dann auch nicht.
@marcow.55012 ай бұрын
Und manche sind zu dumm ihr Auto hinter der Leitplanke zu parken wenn es sich schon anbietet... OMG
@user-wh7hs2bc6m2 ай бұрын
Hi, das dumme daran ist aber, das der Rechtsüberholer sogar Recht bekommen kann und sich den Schaden vom " richtig " Fahrer bezahlen lässt. Du darf den Falschfahrer trotzdem nicht " gefährden " , das wäre irgendwie wohl Selbstjustiz oder so!
@bakterius39412 ай бұрын
@@user-wh7hs2bc6m Wo hast Du den Schwachsinn her? Wenn der Vordere Platz machen will und der Ungeduldige ihm rechts in den toten Winkel fährt, dann hat das wohl kaum was mit "Selbstjustiz" zu tun...🤦♂️ Die Spurenlage ( Position der Schäden) wäre eindeutig, und der Trottel, der unbedingt rechts überholen "muss" hätte dann die Beweislast!
@Zero_91Ай бұрын
Eine kleine Frage . Ist das driften erlaubt aufn Ring ???
@Dukes36772 ай бұрын
21:10 that boy was CLENCHED 😂😂
@Rob1972Gem2 ай бұрын
I can see a time when there are certain parts of the track where there are speed limits set here and I can also see a time where there are more cameras and some of the really stupid drivers will instantly get pulled over on exit of the track and band
@anthonygonsalves7020Ай бұрын
2:05 That tire is at it's *limit* !!
@MyViewToronto2 ай бұрын
7:45 that looks very expensive
@cozza8192 ай бұрын
6:10 one of the most gangster moments I've seen if fully intentional!
@cozza8192 ай бұрын
16:25 !!
@nicolaskomen2 ай бұрын
Yaris: incomiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnngggg 😂😂😂😂😂 good driver!!
@Grega9414 күн бұрын
What's even worse is that these people drive public roads the same way as they drive Nordschleife
@playwithk1912 ай бұрын
6:10 go hard love it
@stevenpollard51712 ай бұрын
Is this like a “Playday?” Where you pay to drive on the famous raceway, and anyone can join with any car and no experience? Looks like fun!
@CerberusTenshi2 ай бұрын
Touristenfahrten, where everyone with a road legal car or motorcycle can drive on the Nürburgring for a fee. It's a toll road with no speed limit for most of the year and only occasionally a race track.
@Got_braaaaap...2 ай бұрын
@@CerberusTenshiroad legal vehicle...cars,motorcycles,busses,vans...as long as it has a numberplate and insurance,you can bring whatever you want
@CerberusTenshi2 ай бұрын
@@Got_braaaaap... It also has to reach a minimum speed of 130km/h. Das Befahren der Nordschleife ist nur mit Kraftfahrzeugen erlaubt, die der StVZO entsprechen. Fahrzeuge, die bauartbedingt oder aufgrund ihres technischen Zustandes eine Mindestgeschwindigkeit von 130 km/h unterschreiten und Quads sind von der Teilnahme an Touristenfahrten ausgeschlossen. So, no, not everything road legal is allowed.
@Got_braaaaap...2 ай бұрын
@CerberusTenshi oh,never knew that. Thanks for clarifying that. The 130km/h is crazy...so what about the busses then? And the T2 vans...no way on earth the can reach that speed
@CerberusTenshi2 ай бұрын
@@Got_braaaaap... I think, those have been special occasions. The rules also change from time to time. Previously, it was a minimum speed of 60km/h and nothing over 2.8t. That would have allowed the T2 vans at the very least.