Stationeers FURNACE TUTORIAL - Making Steel, Invar, Solder, etc / Degassing / Centrifuge / etc.

[@dimaworld2448]

very useful video how to melt ores, thank you

[@OwnerOfTheCosmos]

:D Happy to help :D

[@robertnett9793]

The Arc Furnace is pretty good as a gas trap - it releases the gasses directly into the room. So putting it in a vacuum box as shown and having some active vent pulling out all gasses you can store them. This is especially good with oxygen, as it tends to skew the fuel mixture in the furnace lowering its temperature. If you are quick with pulling the gas out of the room you (and that might be a bug that will get fixed later) pull the gas at 273 Kelvin (0°C) which is nice and cool and easy to use elsewhere. It's warmer than Europa and wayyyy cooler than Vulcan atmosphere. Unfortunately it doesn't work with automining. As the centrifuge creates 'degassed' ore.

[@OwnerOfTheCosmos]

Yes. Yes. And yes again :) I think the oxygen is not particularly relevant in the "real" Furnace, what matters is just the amount of gasses overall, which all need to be heated.

[@Xerkus]

I did two things I regretted with arc furnace: trying to smelt cobalt in oxygen atmosphere and trying to smelt uranium. One has interesting outgassing byproduct and another exists solely as a massive pollutant source. Neither need smelting but it is helpful to outgas cobalt for further, cleaner processing.

[@setaindustries]

If I squint *really hard* this game looks like Space Engineers, and considering how small thumbnails are no wonder I ended up here. I don't know what you're doing but it looks great 👍

[@OperationalError]

The regular furnace does have an unlisted (at least it used to be) quirk in that its input appears to have a built-in back pressure regulator which will prevent the pushing in of any gas if the gas pressure (in the pipe) is below that of the furnaces internal pressure. The solution is to pipe both the input and output together (or just use the output only) if you plan to ever pump gas into a regular furnace. Tl;dr: the regular furnaces' pipe input slot is useless.

[@OwnerOfTheCosmos]

Hm ... never tested this. Only thing I did in this regard was to emergency-rig a canister holder to the input to dump my welder gas into, because the furnace's input slot had gotten stuck because it was too cold. (So, pressure would not have been a problem in that situation, of course.)

[@99miranor]

the rest of the stack always takes on the properties of the one it is placed on. The same applies, for example, if you put a stack of non-dyed cables on top of a colored one, then they are all colored. Or potatoes: if you put fresh potatoes on top of ones that have already lost their shelf life, then the new ones also lose their shelf life. It just doesn't work the other way around.

[@OwnerOfTheCosmos]

If you have black cables in a slot and drag red ones onto those, the black stack will now have grown, yes. And potatoes spoil each other (even though at least for seeds, the individual genetics are not lost and are even in the save file). But the situation here was just inconclusive: I had 49 degassed uranium in hand and then clicked on the 1 raw uranium, so it was added to the stack (aka it also became black, if that's indeed how the game treats (de)gassed ores). Then I threw it in the Arc Furnace: No gasses. Well, then the raw uranium was just neutralized like cables attain the stack's color, right? But then I repeated the experiment: I was holding 1 degassed uranium in hand and then clicked on 49 raw uranium. Arc Furnace: BOOOOOOOM! Tons of pollutant! So, I'd argue that at least, the devs made it so that the majority decides the nature of the new stack (result of combination of two stacks).

[@friedec3622]

Aren't basic furnace with gas pump is comparable to advanced furnance? You also can place pressure regulator to keep the pressure in range.

[@OwnerOfTheCosmos]

Good idea with the regulator, have to consider that. - Well, obviously the basic furnace can't do advanced alloys, but even with a pump it's not as fast as the advanced furnace, because the pump has to wait for the furnace to hand over gas willingly, so it'll still be a very slow process to get rid of it. I know I did this at some point, and it was indeed slow. I don't have a fresh such experiment in memory.

[@friedec3622]

@@OwnerOfTheCosmos what do you mean released gas 'willingly'? Aren't output furnace connected directly with the output pipe? Try inspecting output pipe, it has the same stats (temp & pressure) with the furnace itself. I haven't experimented on this: changing furnace output pipe stats also changing furnace's. If I put heater on the output pipe, then the furnace temp will increase.

[@OwnerOfTheCosmos]

@@friedec3622 Every connection takes at least a game tick to exchange gas (e.g. 10 pipes are one volume, but a valve between them and another 5 pipes will mean that gas needs to actually flow, which only happens per game tick). One could imagine that the devs somehow magic-coded pipes directly connected to a basic furnace output to work differently, to just be an extension of the furnace's volume, but in the video, there were 9.69 MPa 1022°C (volume 1000L) in the basic furnace, and moments later when I slapped the pipe onto it, the pipe measured 3.98 MPa 972°C (volume 10L), only slightly colder but massively different pressure. The conclusion seems safe that the pipe is not part of the furnace's gas container but indeed something that "communicates" game tick per game tick.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

10 minutes in and I still don't know how to use a Furnace.

[@OwnerOfTheCosmos]

20 minutes will do it. It's not like I'm trying to teach you to ask for the train station in a foreign language, instead I'm trying to teach you the language.