Does Erik Ten Hag Have A Future At Man Utd?

[@mr.increediblle7964]

English Premier League is the worst league to show your weakness as a big club because there are too many quality managers in the league and they will all exploit your weakness

[@anirbanspr]

He's either too stubborn or has no plan B, and his plan A ain't working.

[@michaelgitau8120]

All managers are stubborn

[@galazore]

Was there ever even a plan A? He came out of the gate playing garbage.

[@mh4474]

💯

[@Pizzonia295]

So he needs to improve everything?

[@TheSuavest]

No the biggest problem is that none of Man U’s players are willing/able to put the team on their back… especially when the in-game morale is low. Instead it’s a lot of finger pointing and hands up complaining when they see one of their teammates get beat for the 20th time in as many minutes and as professionals that should not happen.

[@giveherheadnotheadaches]

​@@TheSuavestas benni McCarthy said in a quote, that's on Eth. you can be an incredible tactician all you want but if you aren't a motivator, you're never gonna be able to deliver long term.

[@millionblog663]

@@giveherheadnotheadaches Mate they are professional footballer , if they need motivation for playing football they just need quick the football or find toney Robbin

[@Siuuufy7]

@@millionblog663Just because they play ball they don't need stimulation/motivation? 😂 you're clueless

[@anandhakrishnan5317]

Lack of movements, No pattern of play are one of our big problems. Dalot playing in the midfield keeps him away from crossing which is his good attribute. We become a counter attacking team when bruno or Rashford has the ball. The first touch of some of our players is poor which makes it impossible to play out from the back.

[@thebizness5596]

Garnacho, Hojlund and Bruno are playing in Timberlands. They need selling, Ugarte isn’t good enough, I don’t need to give him time, he offers nothing on the ball, no range of passing. He’s a bench player not a title challenging starter.

[@aidangriffiths5075]

You should tell ten hag this

[@aidangriffiths5075]

​@thebizness5596 what a terrible opinion

[@devans5118]

@@thebizness5596of course you’d keep rashford and get rid of garnacho 😂 you’re part of the problem

[@abhiramn4509]

Get rid of rashford coz he can't take on a man. He delays passes . None of them have good vision except Bruno

[@StrykezMan09]

I remember Sir Jim talking about how firing managers hasn't worked. I don't think Erik's gonna get fired and rightly so.

[@feralpleasures4767]

This is fergie in the 80s all over again

[@50shadesofskittles9]

@@feralpleasures4767 yes and that worked out very well.

[@samshyam5347]

@@feralpleasures4767 Exactly. Except this time there will be no Fergie because we are manchester united, we got tons of plastic impatient fans now, we fire managers every 2.5 years, and start the rebuild all over again. See you back in 2.5 years to again have this exact same conversation.

[@feralpleasures4767]

@@samshyam5347I hope not !!! Yea agreed we have toooo many plastic fans , arguably the worst fans base but hey we do have the biggest globally ;)

[@MrRonnz]

This aged well…

[@wiZZO2204]

We should call up Harry Amass just to see what he's about,McAllister too

[@solomecha279]

It's easy to play "Manager role" on paper. If you have seen these issues and suggested a solution for the team to do better, you don't think a bunch of coaches and ETH didn't see it? 1. When professional players can't make 5/10 yard simple pass to their teammates, tactics won't save you. 2. Obviously your analysis is surface level. Against Liverpool two players decided to assist Liverpool's forwards with a goal. Against Brighton, they decided to leave the back post wide open. Against Tottenham, the fullback decided to stop running in the middle for no apparent reason. These aren't tactical flaws, these are players not focusing on the task on hand and loosing a competitive spirit. I question players mentality and commitment to club and fans who pay their freaking bills. I have seen Liverpool's, City's, Arsenal's, Tottenham's and Newcastle's forwards chasing opposition players all the way to their box to defend. Bit our forwards, wingers and CAM jogging "back" to midfiel position and can't be asked to defend 10% of the game time. To be honest WTF did Rushford, Bruno, Gernacho, Zirkzee done to effect games this season? Effort 30% may be ? Missing clear chances, 80% ? All to say tactical discussion are good to have when you have players who are capable of executing the simplest task (making 5 to 10 yard passes to your teammates, not your competitors). I didn't plan on writing this essay, but venting is therapeutic 😅

[@hariantowijaya1937]

players fail to pass short range mostly because interception they are forced to make a risky pass, it is tactical issue

[@mitch8015]

All of the issues you highlight are tactical issues though. Most of those are fixed by having a shape, players having fixed roles and markers and both a defensive and attacking plan. Players can make mistakes and the team can concede, happens in most teams, but united look completely lost in scoring goals. Teams shut it down too easily and as the video says, they either aren't confident or fluid enough to play out from an effective press. The majority of united players could go to arsenal, city, Liverpool etc and wouldn't look out of place. The whole thing on tbe pitch is systemic tactical failure.

[@Poussyeater-w5e]

There's a definite personnel issue, but it's not like ETH wasn't backed. 600 million was spent during his reign, and yet somehow, personnel is still an issue even in his 3rd season in charge. Why couldn't he have at least attempted to offload Rashford, Eriksen, Casemiro etc, and sign maybe not world class players, but players who've got the work rate and the ability to play his style of football?

[@konicanrex7153]

People say stuff like this all the time but if it's 1 or 2 players doing it's a player issue. When the whole team does it it's on you as the manager to **manage** the situation. When professional players can't make 5/10 yard passes under your coaching, you are probably a shit coach. These are players that consistently perform at a high level for their national teams. These are players that Erik Ten Hag has recruited, only players that he didn't buy himself are Dalot, Rashford, Luke Shaw and Bruno Fernandes. If he doesn't like them he has the freedom to drop them, like he did with Casemiro after the Liverpool game. It's clear that some players we consider to be playing bad Erik considers them essential. That is not the players fault. If Ten Hag believes his squad isn't good enough then he should come out and say it! But I think those players are good enough to beat Twente and a 'Sonless' Tottenham. They are being set up to fail by our beloved bald fraud who clings so dearly to an FA Cup he won with less than 30% possession.

[@galazore]

Dave explains to you exactly why it's not working, and you go on a diatribe in which you can't even spell players names properly, ignoring that they're failing to do the simple things because the tactics and in game management doesn't allow for it.

[@Cantona77-08]

Great video. His tactical tweaks and substitutions made a huge difference in his first season. Honestly i was so gobsmacked by Ten Hag last season and since then his tactical tweaks and substituions are terrible. We can't play with intensity for 90 minutes, we don't start well, and we can't play out from the back. Honestly I think he is totally done.

[@phenomenal1s]

Hi @statman Dave I was hoping if you have time you could do a deep dive into our top 5 managerial candidates and explain their tactics how their current teams play and how well that system can suit the current set of players I want to see which manager is the best fit for us statistically and maybe you can rank them from least to best suited for the job in the video, thanks.

[@RASMUS119]

How about he starts calling out Rashford and not referring to him as "the best". Ffs, it's the bloody players in the squad who bring us down. 2025 summer window will bring this team together. There is still a clear out to be done. 8-9 players in the squad who aren't even good enough to train at Carrington let alone playing for Man United. Get the manager sacked, like a fool, and you'll find the same problems here. Or we can just play park the bus Jose ball and keep praising sub par players.

[@cduru007]

Unfortunately they will all get the sack by Christmas😢..its the United cycle 🔄

[@samshyam5347]

Ten Hag was the most exciting up and coming coach in Europe aside from Naglesmann when he joined. This is all so silly. Let me tell you whats gonna happen. We will get a purple patch run in manager's first season, then by second season, we will look completely lost, with all of English media calling for manager's head, and by the third season, everything becomes too toxic and manager is let go and well same cycle repeats. No manager will fit united stylistically because negativity will spread like wildfire as soon as they start loosing a few games

[@mrdj2689]

Statman for the man utd job button >>>>>

[@inkfernocreativo2300]

We are DOOMED 😂

[@kierannaul9576]

He’ll just be on the touchline shouting let’s get this press started

[@dotunbello]

Problem is a lot of analytical yt pages imagine themselves to be good enough to do it. Thing is, manutd is not just any club

[@TheJadenShow007]

@@kierannaul9576😂😂😂

[@RASMUS119]

Dave is a washed up analyst. He wants a DM who does a CAMs job. Only a new manager will bring back some views to his channel. Keep pushing the agenda. You'll get what you want. But don't pretend to be a Manchester United fan. Shameless fool. Talking about systems but not acknowledging the fact that players switch off during games and ruin the system, let goals in, and then feel sorry for themselves. The only manager we've had in 10 years who is trying to bring us back to life by removing the rotten eggs is getting backstabbed by these YT morons who think they know better. I came here looking for an analysis but all I found was biased BS. Blame EtH. Blame Bruno. Blame de Ligt. Blame Onana. How original.

[@stewartclanachan3439]

his record speaks for itself, it's only manager sacking apathy that is saving him from being sacked. I'd love a period of stability and success to deflect away from the manager, but they are not playing for him and they probably don't believe in what he is trying to achieve

[@playedout148]

My 10 year plan is: Ruud for 2-3 years then Nagelsmen for 2-3 years then Carrick should be ready for his 2 year tour of duty. After him, whoever the hot young manager is.... 😂

[@inthegutterstaringathestars]

Why should they believe in what he is trying to achieve? Do you go to your job and down tools because you don't believe in what your boss is doing? You are being paid to do a job and that job is to do what the manager says, even if you don't believe in what he is doing.

[@creepingbrain]

@@inthegutterstaringathestars It's basic human psychology. If your manager keeps telling you to do something and it keeps failing over and over and over again you're not going to trust in what he's asking you to do anymore, and you're not going to perform to your best no matter how hard you try. The players don't want to play crap.

[@inthegutterstaringathestars]

@@creepingbrain The players don't want to play crap? Are you sure? This is the same culture and cycle as the last 10 years. You are right it is basic human psychology. If you can goof off then you will. Why do you think it is your concern what the manager does? Is that your job? No, you get paid to do your job not the managers job. If you think the manager is poor, so what, that is their concern. If it fails then it is on them but if you are deliberately playing poorly to get the manager sack then that is out of order. They get paid to manage. You get paid to play.

[@creepingbrain]

@@inthegutterstaringathestars The players aren't deliberately playing badly. Stop this nonsense. And why are you banging on about the last 10 years? This is Erik's team, these are mostly HIS players. And whatever the "culture" is within the group, that is the manager's responsibility too.

[@febian1529]

Last season the style wasnt what Ten hag want, we play that ugly football because Ten hag has to adapt with lots of injury while he still have to get result. So last season it was plan B because plan A cant work because injury. The season we cleary see the pattern, the style of play because we dominate the match more, have more possession, create chance more. But the problem when we are under pressure or our player make mistake they just forget the pattern routine and they want back to their old way.

[@ucminhnguyen1500]

The trouble wheb Mu progress the ball is the distance between Bruno and the double pivot is too far. But Bruno is not a kind of player who can manage and distribute the ball.

[@kayb7018]

I've been watching your content for quite a few years now, and honestly, this is one of the best videos you've made. Great work

[@otterinari2390]

There is pressing structure, only thing is these players aren't aggressive enough to do it. They are either scared of the limelight and play it safe, refraining from making mistakes or they are not qualitative enough to do it. Tottenham exploited it knowing united players wont press aggressively and deployed udogie and porro high up the pitch which dragged rashford and garna to mark which opened up the space in the middle for romero and vdv to build up

[@frantzh5797]

I dont know how everyone after 10 years are still just going "oh its the managers, 100%" yes they have a lot of blame but at the same time, Dave says Rashford is not a winger hes a goalscorer, Rashford has never been consistent in his career he always has a good season followed by worse, seems promising, goes to shit. There is nothing in the last 18 months to suggest that Rashford is a goal scorer, he has blundered so many chances that a decent premier league goal scorer would put away. The squad still has players that Mourinho comes out and says "i wanted to sell 3 players that are still at united" make note that maguire and those came after Jose left, this can then for one be luke shaw who has not contributed very much in late years except to the physio department and can very easily be Phil Jones 2.0 for the rest of his career, he rushed back to get onto the england plane for the euros just to play in 1 game and be out the entire start of this season ... also he will pick up another injury this season , at the bookies you´d get no money for winning that bet cause its such a sure thing. some of the new signings are very good players and you can tell how much they can impact the teams playing style like Mazzraoui but there is a fundimental flaw in the entire group as a whole. The implementation of young players into the first team is great and exciting, buying young players and having potential players is all good but all the senior players we have had over the last years have come there when they are absolutely done with football like Varane, Casemiro is in a hard decline since joining, eriksen had a heart attack did well at a club like Brentford and was all of a sudden supposed to come and revive Manchester United? Our longstanding players that should be leaders and the spine of the team are either injured at all times or have never proven to be good enough to be the spine of Manchester united ( not one of them.) and get pushed aside by kids when it comes to who fans would pick on the team sheet. Players that have been here and played under Jose, Ole , LVG should have been replaced by now there is no wayne rooney, giggs, ferdinand, scholes or even Antonio Valencia quality among those players and if you are aiming to be the best team your spine and leadership in the dressing room cannot be a bunch of average joes.

[@djuojay]

The trueth is whatever Tan Hag is trying to do is difficult to evaluate if you have such players like these ones who sometimes dont even try.

[@kamarudinbujang1203]

It’s easier to explain tactics in an A/C environment than in training, let alone on the pitch during the actual game itself… players are human too, not robots…

[@tactical_statician]

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[@CoteRW]

As always perfect analysis. But the conclusions and the managers you said are well prepared to do a good job at man united, are to unrealistic everyone forget about the pressure and the managin expectation at the club, twn hag tactiacaly ( what is see it here tactics( is a perfect coach but the pressure and expectations are inmense to deal with all the problems plus media plus fans

[@Nathan_NYX_8]

I don’t understand, last season he used a 4-1-4-1. That failed and he switched to a 4-2-4. No matter the system, the players always struggle. Ole used a 4-4-2 mid block, that failed then he used a 3-5-2. That failed too. See the pattern, Ralf Rangnick used so many systems, but they all failed. See the pattern, it’s the players, not the managers.

[@aseemmane4958]

How didn’t ETH managed to at least make the players play with a basic play style and identity is baffling to me when he was a literal pep regen for ajax

[@dmckyle]

What's distressing is how EtH stands there on the sidelines absolutely stoic when our games are screaming for change

[@inthegutterstaringathestars]

Are you paying him for his personality or to be a manager/coach?

[@danielca3]

​@inthegutterstaringathestars both it's important

[@inthegutterstaringathestars]

@@danielca3 Is it? SAF shouted and screamed. Did it make him a better coach? Ancelotti constantly looks like he is going to fall asleep on the sidelines. Has him not ranting or raving stopped him from winning Champions Leagues?

[@playedout148]

​@@inthegutterstaringathestarswe've heard it all from United players. Jose was too rough, Ollie was too nice, LVG was out of touch, Ralf wasn't "known" enough, ETH made us practice at night and run. Now he too business-like. 😅

[@dotunbello]

⁠these ones are constantly fishing for unimportant things to complain about

[@atnahsinnamrab5656]

Just try and play like unai emery's Villa by using a 4-4-2 and a box midfield which is mostly used nowadays.

[@playedout148]

United has had great success sacking a manager every 2-3 years. Why stop now? 😂

[@afaiqueillyas9522]

Still behind Chelsea 😭

[@MrRonnz]

They didnt stop now 😂

[@Eminem5535]

We need to switch to a 433 all our midfielders our suited to it. People forget bruno was a 8 when we bought him, he's much more efficient as a 8 if we hold possession.

[@Blank9458]

We literally don’t play that formation because of Bruno

[@Eminem5535]

@Blank9458 plays as an 8 for portugal

[@otterinari2390]

@@Eminem5535 quality of players differ. Portugal has got good holding midfielders to support bruno to keep possession

[@Eminem5535]

@otterinari2390 what does that have to do with playing him as an 8? That would help the workload of our DM and manioo.

[@otterinari2390]

@@Eminem5535 we got no players who are willing to retain possession. Everyone is treating the ball like it's a hot potato. Mainoo is more of a carrier and Fernandes is more of a Hollywood passer. We can't say anything about ugarte for now. You need players who are willing to keep the ball and recycle possession to complement each other

[@loudoy1]

Both the analysis and the video are perfect.

[@AJ-cy6iz]

I think part of the problem is both the manager and fans are happy with the raw talents of Mainoo instead of looking at him to be developed and coached into more of an all-round CM. Virtually any CM playing alongside Mainoo and Bruno is going to end up scapegoated.

[@paulosasfaw9799]

I guess we need sort out that left back position whether with amas or some one left footed defender we need to forget about shaw

[@Erictheking66]

Even when we get somewhere near the opposition half, we slow it down give it to the defendera on the halfway line and they play amongst themselves going deeper and deeper until they get back to Onana who has no option but to go long... so many average players in our squad. The players we have still suit sitting back, compact and playing on the break.... and that's after open hear surgery almost 700 million spent and academy graduates coming through. We are still miles off it

[@WanessaJohnson-z7j7j]

Your ideas are always impressive. Keep inspiring us with your creativity.🎱🦋🐝

[@kevinmaxsibasa7554]

Please make a video for how those 5 managers you just mentioned can improve Man Utd

[@sinclairwhitbourne2090]

We know the story, they improve the side in season 1 or 2 and then get sacked when the side flops. It's the last 11years on rewind. At least this guy has picked up trophies.

[@kevinmaxsibasa7554]

@@sinclairwhitbourne2090 You not wrong though but it's different owners it might be different

[@sinclairwhitbourne2090]

@@kevinmaxsibasa7554 Maybe, but I doubt it. The thing about Fergie in 86-90 was that he also inherited a dud culture of big stars who didn't train hard and who relied on big moments. I don't think ETH is amazing - I really wonder if his shape is viable in the EPL - but he has shown enough and I have seen good managers get chewed up by this club. Benni McCarthy said only Bruno and Dalot trained hard. Others spoke of this issue with Ollie and Jose. We need to break the culture and that means suck up some pain, do the time and stick with managers over players. Or go through the same miserable cycles of the last decade. Any of the coaches mentioned by SD are excellent but they will hit the same wall and they will now have a squad that is largely built by ETH which will impinge on how they do what they want to do.

[@melchertnowee8443]

Excellent vid. TH is being too stubborn and there is no belief from the players. I don't think he's a bad coach, but I don't see him turning this around anymore (unfortunately). Too deep.

[@inthegutterstaringathestars]

He is getting sacked without doubt but why do the players need to believe? Do you believe in the job done by your boss?

[@playedout148]

​@@inthegutterstaringathestarstoo many soft players at United. Be nice Mccarthy called then out as slackers except bruno and dalot.

[@melchertnowee8443]

​@@inthegutterstaringathestars No, I don't. I think my boss has a poor business strategies, so I nod, smile and do things my way afterwards. That's also my point.

[@HaydnaterV]

It's alright tho cus Maguire's now his new plan B since we got rid of McTominay 😂😂

[@jonathanjayreader]

Maguire saved us a couple of times last year aswell hahaha

[@d1want34]

yeah he's finished, literally every excuse in the book has been said. I knew it since the Liverpool game that he'll be gone by November, looks like its sooner than I thought.

[@thomasnissen3550]

Hi Dave! I was a big fan of Peter Schmeichel, when I was a kid, and I noticed, you have a shirt of his in the background. Could you do a video about him sometime?

[@Hhammer]

I’m sorry, you can’t say they spent 182m on the defence and then reference last seasons issues, when half that defence wasn’t signed yet, and one of them was injured for like 2/3rd of the season, while the other didn’t play 1 game last season. Only the keeper played consistently

[@isaaccc726]

Thing is those issues are still persistent this season, we’ve shown little to no improvement and we’ve had our best back 4 available bar Shaw, who’s a lost cause.

[@Hhammer]

@@isaaccc726 yes and no. We are still conceding chances but aside from the Spurs game, we’ve conceding half the amount of chances we had last season. That’s factual.

[@davidlohan1212]

​@isaaccc726 We have no left back. Malaria is injured, too.

[@dodgysmum8340]

Watch the Porto game? Exactly. The. Same. Old. Shit. Doughnut.

[@271wan]

Although I think Yoro with his pace would help reduce the gap between defence and midfield due to his pace, (Martinez should probably be the inverted LB). It's the first time I have the feeling that maybe we should be looking in another direction. It just isn't working at the moment. Villa is a big game for ETH.

[@dimasubrata]

I watched The Purist analysis on Nagelsmann yesterday and saw some similarity on the principal but there is one big difference, Nagelsmann team always ready to lose the ball while with ten Hag looks like that is something that never crossed his minds

[@ABDULRAHIM-cn9ud]

Ten hag should try Zirkzee as 10 and Hojilund as 9... Fernandes and Ugarte in holding role...

[@Blank9458]

Would be a nice way to secure losing his job

[@LamanKarodia]

Fernandes can't play holding mid and that might be too attacking but trying zirkzee as a 10 could work

[@shango7942]

Interesting, me like.

[@johnck5775]

Still no press-resistance and no ball-carrying ability with that defensive midfield

[@beatty1229]

Can't have JZ at 10 and Bruno at 8 unless one of the FB sits with the DM line to cover Bruno to roam and Ugarte to destroy

[@SEVENSEVEN480]

You want to believe he's Harry Potter, he isn't, he's already told us that

[@iwantgoals1566]

Good video overall. I agree with many points and disagree with a few. But I don’t understand what you said at 17:55. The quality of players is there, he’s been given over £600M of talent and most of them are starters for international teams. ETH just simply isn’t good enough to manage in a league where he doesn’t manage the dominant team like you said. In The Prem it doesn’t matter who you are, you have to adapt to your opponent. The only manager that doesn’t need to is Pep Guardiola but even he tweaks his tactics every season instead of adapting them game to game.

[@Reddiclips]

You changed the title on your recent video from 'how ten hags new tactics are getting Rashford in form' to 'how Zirkzee wll get Rashford back in form' hahahahahah have some shame,

[@golusionel]

Statman summarised it perfectly, I think ten hag is too stubborn and will get the sack if he doesn't change his ways, he has had many transfers already and still we don't see his style of football, if he wants to play possession he can't use rashford, if he wants to play counter he can't play mainoo and ugarte/casemiro as they both lack excellent long passing to find the speedy forwards, But what he can do is stick with a flat back four and use Bruno as no.8 while keeping ericson as a substitute and utilise his long passing alongside ugarte/casemiro/mainoo. Have zirkzee as a 10 to hold the play uptop and go long with rashford and garnacho with hojlunt in the middle. This way he can utilise the full strength of the forward while also having defensive solidarity.

[@marknduatiaunitedfan4686]

This was the problem at Porto... You can see it... It's a problem. When the press goes the whole team doesn't follow.... It leaves a big hole in the middle of the field

[@peacefullyforever]

If we can beat Man City at their best then we’re capable of winning everything. However, Eric’s successful tactics at creating scoring opportunities fall flat as players can’t convert. Over 20 shots on net yet one or two goals. It makes no sense. This statistic proves that the failures are not the of the coach but of the forwards inability to finish.

[@hasan3502]

Eras come to an end, and his ended before it started.

[@playedout148]

United are 12 years into a "New manager every 2-3 years era" and is working quite well. 😂

[@carlo_goh]

I reckon Graham Potter could be a great shout for the job too, don't forget what he did with Brighton a few years ago

[@hughmcneillie1032]

We need that Nou Camp performance big time tomorrow night. Come on Erik. Get this turned around.

[@playedout148]

Be nice to see some quality and graft from these so called pro players...

[@alairdottin8101]

I would be interested in seeing a video of the profiles and tactics of the coaches you listed that could replace EtH.

[@donald_1989]

Amad Diallo has come through under Ten Hag. If you’re going to make videos make sure it’s true. He absolutely looks for every excuse to not use this player

[@kelechiishima9460]

So what I'm getting from this is that Ten Hag needs to be more tactically flexible for now until he a) gets better players or b) the young players develop. I'd even argue that whether he has Casemiro or Rodri, Haaland or Zirkzee, Rashford or Vinicius, he needs to use tactics and formations that play to the strengths of the players similar to Unai Emery or even Ancelotti

[@Poussyeater-w5e]

Implementing an aggressive pressing shape isn't likely to yield much when most of the players don't have the work rate for it

[@tinashesimbini5800]

What about dropping Bruno back into central midfield

[@cheburnley6143]

1 Rasmus has literlly just come back from injury so couldn’t play the 4-4-2 2 We complained about ole’s non dominate pragmatic approach but once again you would like us to play that way ? 3 ole played better because he had better/ experienced players 4 players should suite the system

[@jonprague]

So the tactics are right but the players are slow and can’t play it.

[@kalebdemedeiros5692]

Our fb’s don’t match our wingers we have goal scoring inside forwards and technical inverted fb’s maybe if we had more overlapping from our midfield but haven’t seen much and they have to much ground to cover anyways Switch to a back 3 would benefit some players but also hurt lots of others we don’t have natural wing backs potentially Dalot but he can lack end product and I don’t see Mazaroui bombing up and down that wing all game Also who would we play on the left Malacia? Maybe Antony? Even if shaw could stay fit it’s not the best use of his abilities

[@isaaccc726]

Honestly it’s time to go for Erik. All the points made in this video are 100% valid and correct but ETH has had 3 years and 600 million to resolve these issues but they’re still there. He’s stubborn and shows no signs of progression, we can’t persist with mediocrity and try to force him to work out when he clearly isn’t. Hoeneß would be my ideal replacement.

[@sumitdbabar]

2 years and 8 games.

[@feralpleasures4767]

You’d be saying the same for Si Alex Ferguson in the late 80s if you were around, do the maths on that will ya!! dumb comments don’t help the manager and defiantly not our club , have patience ffs.

[@isaaccc726]

@@sumitdbabar Point still stands? Even more so considering it’s 600 million spent in 2 years, we’re going into year 3 with little to no progress and such an obviously flawed approach from Ten Hag

[@inthegutterstaringathestars]

@@isaaccc726 What is progress to you? Good performances or results? It is results that are getting ETH sacked not performance or progress. I see plenty of progress. He has changed from trying a counter-attacking approach to more possession based which showed against Crystal Palace. What I see and hear from Christian Eriksen, Benni McCarthy, and Nicky Butt is that the players got worried that the ETH plan might work and they will have to continue putting in effort, which they don't want to do and that INEOS have no intention of giving any manager any freedom to deal with players who fail to put in effort and have no contingency when they sack Ten Hag. INEOS want the new manager bounce from Van Nistelrooy and the players will put in enough effort to hang every bad event on Ten Hag and dodge any blame.

[@dotunbello]

@@inthegutterstaringathestars these accounts are all echoing talking points. No critical thinking going on

[@faizs7644]

so u want eth play counter attack football. which is done by previous manager and make the old player (rashford, bruno n casemiro) happy to play.

[@davidkelly110]

That switch of play is a disaster for Dalot. Hes caught sleeping far too often.

[@feralpleasures4767]

If this was the late 80s the “sack him” ‘fans’ would of been calling for Fergie to be sacked , just do the maths on that ….

[@dotunbello]

I find videos like this hard to takeover serious tbh. Just focusing on negatives as a way to fish for clicks

[@Floyd_81]

Getting rid of EtH won't solve a damn thing.. On certain occasions our wingers are pressing the opposition CB's, which then leaves the FB's free to receive a pass, which then leaves Mainoo and Ugarte having to press the FB's and then our midfield is out of shape and completely non existent.!! Plus our wingers don't track back enough either. Garnacho was literally watching Spurs attack down our right side and he couldn't be arsed to get back goal side.. Rashford... Don't even get me started on him..!! Total shite.!!!!

[@nickroberts6050]

6:03 Incorrect "Statman"! Spurs have only beaten us twice during Ten Hag's tenure as United manager

[@flickchic238]

But the thing is, ten Hag has to know that the 4 2 4 formation doesn't work in the prem. Why does he stick with it? Why doesn't he change his style? He puts pressure on Mainoo, and he is setting up Ugarte to fail in his debut season!

[@mahadasif2474]

He needs to drop his stubbornness and work from ground zero to facilitate his style of play. Major structures within his tactics need to change to suit PL football, we need more pragmatism. Unlikely it works out, but at least there's a better pool of managers to take the job this season than at the end of last.

[@LodvarDude]

Dave's lack of a pop filter just underlines the absolute horrid record ETH has at United.

[@omarspence7404]

The midfield is a shambles as mainoo is burnt out, casemeiro has no legs, mount is chalk. We need to promote or buy players.

[@dotunbello]

00:47 is just not true. Before the Tottenham game their defense was considerably better than last season. Why do a lot of you take one game and equate it to 38? What is going on with this focusing on negatives and making them seem bigger than they are?

[@devans5118]

Man Utd have won only 6 premier league games in their last 20, they’ve been beaten 3-0 at home twice in the first 6 games of the season and only won 2 of the 6 this season. If you think they’ve improved or gotten better then you know very little about football like I said 6 wins in their last 20 premier league games and only won 1 of their last 8 games in Europe. That’s awful stop making excuses things need to change

[@bf1716]

@devans5118 no man, this guy's simply right. Everybody with a bit of big picture sees and knows that after 8 managers getting the sack there's another problem which has nothing to do with the quality of the managers. There's not enough focus on that. There's not enough attention being paid to Ragnicks famous words "open heart surgery". I believe it started with getting players like Ronaldo and Sancho out, new management in, more players out, more players in. But that's only the beginning. Before start of this season everybody said it would take at least three good windows to improve this squad to compete in PL. We are now 1 good window into the new season and everybody acts as if we should now compete already. Tbh, I think the new management is very aware of which players aren't good enough for possession based football, everybody can see that, these are also players that down tools now because they know they are going out with one of the next windows. EtH has the problem that he is here in his third year while the third year is only the start. Fans have also forgotten his first year. The second had its reasons. The last transfer window was the only properly managed window, the others were wasted by the old management. Another problem for EtH is that he has to make the best he can with the midtable counter attacking players who are obviously not interested (anymore) after the club announced that it aims to compete for PL by 2028.

[@devans5118]

@@bf1716 ten hag got most of the players he asked for 13 players 600m spent and majority are Ajax players he had when he was there, everyone has said the starting 11 for Man Utd has got good young quality in there, how can you not bae the manager ? You loved his first season but the 2nd season had its ‘reasons’ so we give it a pass ? He’s trying to do what he did at Ajax with the same players and it’s failing big time, everyone thought ugarte was the saviour but so far it’s been lack luster from him. If you can’t see the problems then fine but the stats speak for themselves and you talk about Ronaldo and sancho but sanchos thriving at Chelsea, a 73 million pound player who he replaced with Antony 😂🫣 an 80 million pound player that doesn’t play and has one foot like I say if you can see the problems and think this guys right then fine so be it but the stats speak for themselves, just look at the goals scored: in 6 premier league games they’ve scored 4 goals (3 of them being against 10 man Southampton) open your eyes man 😂

[@StrykezMan09]

​@@bf1716Thank you! There aren't enough fans with sense nowadays!

[@milz97y]

@@bf1716 dude, well said 👊 a lot of fans and fans of opposition clubs, who dgaf about us, get their talking points from the media. They are either not capable or don’t have the time to watch every game and then think holistically about all the factors you’ve outlined. On top of that 20-30% of comments are bots so you never know who you are actually engaging with. Keep the faith and let’s actually get through the growing pains. We always fold as a fan base around this time. It’s pathetic and quite baby like

[@gamerat30]

Even i hate to see 4231 formation week in week out.. If things are not working do something new and fail also no problem atleast we felt he is trying something.

[@harjotaubby6768]

Not really sure if this is going to be of interest to anyone, I'm a season ticket holder and I have been for about 6 or 7 years so i'm just speaking as a fan that wants the best for the club. Slightly deeper question so bare with me on this one, interested to hear what people think and whether i'm being absolutely stupid or not - Do we think 3 at the back could work for United? I was thinking about this recently with speculation about different managers and I thought about this potentially being an option. I think our midfield struggles against teams that are strong centrally. Spurs packed the middle against us on Sunday and we couldn't deal with it. Its teams that also press us high that we struggle with. Mainoo's legs aren't exactly Kante like so having him in a 2 with not much protection behind him, in my opinion, hinders him. Ugarte has got legs and if he is operating in smaller spaces with less ground to cover I think we could see the best in him. Casiemero (although I think his time as a United player will be over by the start of next season) hasn't got the legs in any capacity so keeping the distance he has to cover to a minimum would also be helpful and with a back three behind him that could really work. In terms of centre backs, we have some really got options here. De Ligt, or even Maguire, would be really good central centre backs in a back three potentially with Yoro at right centre back and Lisandro at left centre back. I think we need some cover in this position (maybe the lad from Everton) just because Lisandro's injuries are a worry. With Shaw coming back (If indeed that is a remote possibility whilst I am alive) it gives the option of even having him as the left centre back of a three or even the left wing back. Wing backs, potentially, could be an area going forward that United need to strengthen. Frimpong for example as a right wing back with the freedom of the Sir Alex Ferguson stand could work really well. Dalot and Mazouri, besides the Spurs game, have been brilliant. I'm not sure how they would adapt to playing wing back but I've even got this crazy vision of Mazouri being able to play at RWB as well as RCB (call me crazy but think of his technical attributes and his ability to come from inside to outside). Forward areas is where it might get tricky. Would you play 3-4-2-1 and have a front three of Zirkzee/Rasmus, Rashford and Amad/Garnacho. This would mean Bruno would have to operate one of the deeper midfield positions but I guess if he had the cover of a defensive midfielder AND a back three it could work? You could even have him as a number 10 with two strikers I guess its flexible in that way. I was thinking about Tuchel's Chelsea. They were superb in every aspect of the game. That season of 21/22 after they won the champions league when they came to Old Trafford and it was 1-1 but they were absolutely unreal. The way they shifted the ball from right to left was breathtaking. It was 1-1 but Ronaldo pulled us out of that game otherwise it could have been 5 or 6 - 0 to them. And they were aggressive with the press and excellent on the ball. They finished third but had the Lukaku stuff not kicked off I think with a proper number 9 they could have challenged Liverpool and City. I've also seen Inzaghi at Inter Millan play with 3, and it works really well. Often, they will build with a back four and use heavy rotation and be a real problem to break down. I even look at Amiron at Sporting and see how aggressive and front footed they are with a three at the back and think that we could operate in a similar capacity? I'm not for one second suggesting we go for any manager in particular but this switch could work ONLY IF DONE PROPERLY. Otherwise you have a Conte at Spurs flat back 5 where you can't get out. And if you ever want an example of how NOT to play with a back 5 go to the 21/22 season under Ole when we lost 0-2 home to City at Old Trafford and tried a back 5 and got utterly dominated. Would be interested to know what everyone thinks - I might be talking absolute rubbish please share your thoughts.

[@austinwirtz2434]

Spent over 600 million on players he wanted and he still has awful results, no style of play and no signs of progress. Time to go

[@yaredgashaw6420]

if he doesn't sub bruno after 60 minutes for eriksen, if he doesn't sub rashford for garnacho 60 minutes, put dalot back to his position finally and the major one is use two midfilders 6 and 8 donot use the 8 in advanced and intruct the midfields to recieve and dictate the play. Especially if doesn't use two midfield 100 percent no results even we are gonna see TOT VS UNITED again and he will be sacked.

[@karanabraham7906]

Hoijlund and Mount press very well. They surely have to start

[@aseemmane4958]

I don’t understand how we didn’t play even 10% of what eth’s ajax style of play. Why did he sign Casemiro when his system demanded a ball playing/carrying defensive midfielder, his obsession with de Jong screwed us with him waiting for the whole transfer window hoping for de Jong to come instead if he would identify another player who would do that role we couldn’t have signed him and not signed Casemiro

[@redjohn1958]

Can’t see TenHag changing anything . Not seen any real progress since he came.

[@sinclairwhitbourne2090]

Yeah, those two trophies really suck don't they? No progress there.

[@samshyam5347]

If you looked at the Palace game or Fulham game and still saying no progress, then you are just being negative for the sake of it. Yes we are inconsistent af but we need to be patient

[@Guilefpv]

Brighton is the only team to beat ETH with 3 different managers in 3 seasons. Name me any other manager with that stat. Usually its the losing team that changes manager, not the winning team.

[@KuxSuave]

Besides quality, United have a coaching problem, clearly - United should rather bite the bullet, appoint someone they want in the long term, who plays expansive, beautiful football, that will get results. Amorim, or Zidane, come to mind.

[@bbayuba]

If i can sum up the problem of Man Utd in one sentence, it is this: They cannot do the basics. They can't pass, defend, score. It feels they have forgotten football 101, playing like a group of kids who just came to the field and happened to be 11 players available

[@vincentmcdonnell4013]

When managers are forced to use players that couldn't be bothered and should be sold everyone will fail. Its impossible as that player on 300k a week sets the tone and drags everyone down.

[@DaveSeville-sf1ku]

Ronaldo was not a problem player 😉

[@platypode]

I think he's got about two or three more shocking results before he's gone

[@sandipansaha1296]

a 3-4-1-2 can solve man united's so many problems but eth is just too stubborn for that

[@chriswood753]

ETH needs to change his tactics if he wants to keep his job. The space and time United give opponents in midfield is a joke. Why is ETH not doing anything about it ? The front 4 don't press as a team, it's too easy to get through the United press then the midfield is exposed. Bruno loses the ball the midfield is exposed. Rashford and Garnacho don't want to track back or show any urgency when pressing. Bruno needs dropping. Martinez should be captain.

[@parvitzparvitz3797]

He can play bruno and Mainoo numbr 6 and Anthony num 10, diallo out wide, or diallo num 10. Why not use both zirkzee and hojland both play ...

[@motomoto8383]

He’s just too stubborn. He needs to adapt but for some reason he doesn’t think he needs to

[@lonewolf621]

Thats what I was thinking ten hag's system is rigid, no fluidity, no rotations, its plain simple, which gets picked on easily by the opposition. Even of they play this way, players arent even implementing this system correctly, they just hold on the ball, slow down the tempo and search for players, thats not a good look for ten hag.

[@ryanhlfc]

Give him a lifetime contract!!!

[@onpurpose1896]

We’re coming for your head youuuuuu….rooster!

[@YTA5690]

Rent free.

[@ryanhlfc]

@@YTA5690 you all begged him to stay after being embarrassed in europe and coming 8th

[@samshyam5347]

@@ryanhlfc Just like you did with Klopp after he finished 8th and got 1 final (didnt even win it) in his first season

[@ryanhlfc]

@@samshyam5347 2 finals actually. In his first full season we finished 4th

[@Salfordshire]

Wait until Southgate has a job teaching embroidery before sacking ETH.

[@dmckyle]

😂😂😂

[@imumba4321]

I have supported ETH and defended him in argument with United fans like he pays me an allowance but unfortunately I have given up on him and his time is up everytime the team goes forward I dont see them scoring.

[@seansmyth8703]

He's not a magician 😂.

[@olmans9649]

3 Seasons and he needs to fix...everything and he needs to change how he approach every game? I think he is not going to even try to do it

[@dodgysmum8340]

Statman, why wont Eric move the block defensively like that? We saw spain brilliantly attack and defend en bloc zonally like this in the euros. They had fewer top top players than england but they were so well coached it didn’t matter. Wht is 10s tactical objection to this?

[@kadarDakar]

Everything you pointed out just made me want Ruben Amorim even more. What are you thoughts on him as a potential replacement?

[@udeaniizuchukwu7836]

The last 3 makes most sense to me. And your closing saying that ten hag will do better in leagues that are not very competitive is true. The premier league have the best managers in world football who can outbest you tactically. When erik was at ajax they were so good playing sides that cant beat championship teams in england. Thats why he was never very bothered about defensive structure. In prem it hit him flat on the face and he's run out of time to even adapt to it. I cant keep saying its the players. I say its the coach. Then on the players side i think they should give 100percent no matter the tatics. Cover some shame bro. Eric tenhag can be pragmatic but it wil mean united sitting deep and going on the counter which is what maresca is doing and not what utd heirachy want. They want him to be able to dominate and dictate games which leaves him VERY EXPOSED and i dont think he can handle it. He would need time he doesn't have to adapt. To me utd need an elite manager that can use this squad before this man waste them

[@numbuh98]

This club is a laughing stock. I can accept if Utd only loss with smaller margin, but losing 3-0 is just terrible, and it's a common occurrence for Utd to loss to top 10 team with the same or more margin. If there's progress, this margin would be lower, but this is not the case. I don't want to see manager getting sack, but Ten Hag need to realise that his team is regressing instead of progressing. He's not flexible enough to switch tactics and very stubborn sometimes when it comes to subtitutions.

[@nikhilsasidharan4245]

Can't keep the ball out of their own net, can't score enough goals, needs a tactical change, cannot influence a game through substitutions, too easy to play against - yeah I'm looking at a change of manager lol

[@lwandomadikizela2213]

Yes he's done. I've wanted him gone after Manchester City smashed us 3-0 at Old Trafford last season. It has gotten worse since. The worst start to a Premier League campaign, 1 win in 9 European games, bottom of a piss easy Champions League group, threw away the tie against Sevilla, outplayed by a mid table Dutch club at Old Trafford mind you and suffered multiple embarrassing defeats including 3-0 to Liverpool, Spurs and Bournemouth at Old Trafford, smashed 4-0 by Palace and 2-1 against Brighton with a rookie manager.

[@sinclairwhitbourne2090]

And I love the way to show balance you include the two trophies given there had been none since 2017. Let's keep changing managers every few seasons. It has really worked well.

[@Yatesy-2024]

When Ten Hag finally goes, can we have a list of Managers who you'd bring in?

[@michealmyers4646]

He is not facing any problem, he is creating them himself. He is the only manager in this league who doesnt adjust to the players he has. He is also the only manager who has been outclassed by any other manager in this league and not only that, he is also naive and his tactics are shit

[@Newmanidentity]

If ETH spent years at AJax and did so well , and comes to UTD using a good number of hos AJax players, and it's not working, then I bet you 70 percent of the problem isn't ETH ......who sees the perspective.. I see ETH problem is , struggling to put the ball a the back of the net.. he needs a good scorer and a better goalie