What Now! More Problems SCANIA S 580 V8 - Back in Garage again...

Here we go again, more problems with our SCANIA S 580 V8
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[@-DC-]

Never had these problems with my 142 🤣 Absolute madness these modern vehicles.

[@seamusm84]

Too many sensors in them these days that's the problem

[@craigrobertson8368]

Totally

[@simondavis5382]

Any suggestions on how to prevent it?

[@thechongwolla]

​@@simondavis5382buy old trucks without sensors

[@arthurporfirio5718]

I agree

[@Kk18739]

@@thechongwollathat literally is the only solution. Way too much emissions control equipment fitted and overly sensitive, modern trucks are almost not fit for purpose if they’re going to be off the road every time the eml stays on.

[@paulpiscina5906]

As we say down our way “That’s a proper lemon” Not just Scania’s , the comp any I drive for have been 100% Daf for over thirty years, but they’ve experienced so many problems with the Euro 6 versions , they’ve switched to M.A.N. Think the moral is, I don’t think the premium you pay for a Scania these days is justified.

[@andyfletcher7535]

When I had a 580 the boss said at bottom Saddleworth knock it down a gear and put in it manual. Let it scream going up there. The exhaust systems now days clog so easy

[@kiaceratomadman]

Hi Stavros matey 👍 it's mark from Wirral Merseyside 👍 really enjoyed watching your KZbin video about your truck problems and i really hope that you don't get anymore. But i definitely agree with you truck manufactures they should be looking at engine problems on trucks so that all trucks are more reliable. Keep up the great work Stavros matey 👍 and it's very much appreciated 👍👍 thanks from mark from Wirral Merseyside 👍👍

[@paulnewsome4203]

Hi Stavros, another top video Adblue systems have a lot to answer for these days. Having issues with my Daf XF480 it's in the shop for inspection and Test 😧 see what tomorrow brings. CHEERS !!!

[@barrylaite7000]

If you think that your Scania is giving you issues my friend, try driving a Pete 579 from PACCAR. I drive one here in Alberta, Canada and I’ve had it since new in 2020. The number of electrical and sensor issues in this truck would’ve bankrupt me if I were an owner operator. Thank goodness I’m a company driver, lol!

[@HamptonSimon]

I must admit I’ve been surprised with the poor build quality of the next gen R series I drive. Buttons and switches falling to pieces, the door trim around the mirror/light controls all coming off, the seat and arm rests have a mind of their own, head lights and indicators coming loose/letting in moisture etc.. It’s only a ‘19 plate and has been looked after very well considering we do walking floor work.

[@zx749r]

Sounds weird. In company i drive we have 3 S500's currently, two of wich have more than million km's now. One 2016 and two 2017 models, none of them have issues with built quality or anything like that, all interiors are in mint condition still. There have been other issues like nox sensors etc etc but built quality is superb.

[@HamptonSimon]

@@zx749r don’t know how true it is, but I was told by a bloke at Scania Purfleet that vehicles produced at specific factories have known issues. Most of ours were assembled in France it says inside the door.

[@zx749r]

@@HamptonSimon Probably true then, ours are made in Sweden.

[@OneManAndHisThoughts]

I drive a scania 450r 69plate and it’s been faultless other then the occasional headlight bulb yet a colleague who has the same truck but a 71plate has been recovered back to yard twice

[@stuartcraigon2003]

Semes the doehard scanny boys are keeping quiet these days as the vail progressively slips and they breakdown on them! The old saying "you won't be late in a Scanny V8" is very much true now, you won't be late because your not going to arrive at all.

[@wawawswfc4957]

Mine always had ad blu problems.....got a new s660 what a machine ....

[@449Raphael]

The Scania V8 140 till 143 did 3 million kilometres without any problems.

[@Misesian86]

If you’re getting that urea build up, in the US we call it ammonia slip, it could be several things. You’re injecting too much, that is fixed with calibration. If you’re consistently running at a high rpm, you slip more ammonia as well. High idle time will slip ammonia. On the European market you guys have access to Cerium based fuel catalysts. In the US we only have ferrocene catalysts. I’ve had great results with ferrocene, but Cerium is superior. It will greatly reduce soot and Nox, reducing Nox reduces DEF consumption. I’m in the middle of an order on a Navistar truck that will have the super 13 in it. Same engine you guys have, just different tuning for the US market. I’m very excited about it. As far as cleaning the ammonia slip, if you have those services that clean DPFs in an ultrasonic tank, they can clean the DOC, turbos, EGR Valve, EGR cooler, all that stuff in those tanks. I have a Navistar truck with the A26, it’s the same engine you see in the latest MAN trucks, the 13L. I have 655k US miles on it, and zero issues.

[@David_Crayford]

Very interesting to see bread-and-butter issues. Very annoying though problems are, they do employ a lot of people to fix them. 🙂

[@gafrers]

Snowball effect. What will be next? Keep up the great work Stavros 👍👍

[@TheMacronical]

TBF to all the truck manufacturers, all the emissions equipment being put on the trucks was all the work of our lovely governments around the world. But honestly, they're trying to lower RPMs on the ground of fuel consumption which is only leading to MORE emission problems. Lower RPMs mean the engine is under less load at cruising speeds, hence forcing alot more regens to clear the DPF. Their research departments, all of them, need a sending to the sun.

[@bill13690]

Cheers Stavros. Great video

[@descrosdale1778]

Hello stavros from the lads on the sprinter!! The last of the v6 😢

[@lindokuhlebhengu4042]

M glad to see South Africann driver... M also watching these video from SA

[@jasondesborough4002]

A big V8 on local work will always be a problem. The DPF needs to be kept hot to burn everything…also reduce you idle time… love the videos

[@achon1771]

Wasn't a problem for the 2, 3 and 4 series.

[@jasondesborough4002]

@@achon1771 no.. euro 6 and Adblue as caused a lot of problems

[@niklas7468]

Can’t you just take out the dpf

[@mrplop38]

@@niklas7468 mildly illegal lol, but if no one checks it might be worth it I just am not sure where you would have to go to find someone willing to do it on a truck :)

[@MrBusdriver63]

950 rpm at 90 kmh one would have think that the engine is revving to low to put enough heat into the DPF unit. And that is causing all the problems with the modern truck engines, and I talking about all brand of trucks. Hi from Australia.

[@martincaughlan5404]

Fair play Ger fitz 👍

[@janvanrenselaar5998]

The most common place for a Scania is a Garage.They cannot pass a sevice point to HELLO to the mecanics

[@abdullahikamaalhassan1122]

Hi stavros i have been watching your videos since 2018 now am here in ireland hope to become truker like you

[@hughparker6227]

I got the brand new s560 super Stavros it's amazing I love it

[@aoireimu]

Reminds me of the Maxxforce engines, absolute nightmare.

[@madanto2394]

The thing with regenerating particulate filters is that it's the kph figures need to be higher as atmospheric force is required a car or van is alright as they can do 120kph.

[@chrisbanks1601]

Like others have said adblue needs heat and fuel moving through the motor, adblue doesn't do anything at idle though. Scania's have always been junk imo, Running a full tank of water through the adblue system makes a huge difference every now and then. You'll also be shocked how much adblue it starts using afterwards because it's clean.

[@humblebun639]

One of the reasons companies like Edison Motors exist😊❤

[@richardaustinaustin1890]

Good luck with the lorry Stavros. I drive a 2017 fh which has had its fair share of dpf sensor faults, but been a good truck overall

[@stuartcraigon2003]

Volvo is far superior to Scania.

[@Ian-Saxon]

Hope you get a nice trouble free run going now Stavros lad 👍

[@Skusty]

When it comes to tractors with tag axles, you want the fifth wheel as far forward as you can so you get your weights right. Take a look at tractors in Sweden, Norway and Finland, the fifth wheel is pretty much always as forward as you can have them. You will also need to regen way more when you have a bigger engine than needed for it's loads since the engine never really works, if you work the engine properly, the need for regens are greatly reduced.

[@rosen9425]

That doesn't sound right at all. Depends on trailer length and weight. You have to make sure the axel load on the truck isn't over legal limits but also for stability. This means you def need to move the fifth wheel depending on the variety of trailers used

[@Skusty]

@@rosen9425 it is very much correct if you want to reach full load capacity without overloading your axles, if you keep the fifth wheel to the rear you will overload your drive and tag, if you move it forward you move a lot of the weight to the steering axle. Most companies buy trucks with 8 or 9ton front axles up here in the north, our trailers generallly has the landing gear moved back so you can keep the fifth wheel further and the trailer axles are moved back to put more weight on the truck.

[@enboklangwanniang3347]

After changing dpf injector and sensor give more rev until the engine heated and check obd again

[@patodwyer721]

Nice one Stavros Time to move her on

[@AdrianoHunter1981]

Love the videos brother

[@yvonprovost3925]

Hello Stav' ... Yes today we all meet problems with our trucks , whatever is the make , and most of time due to this f*** 'adblue and exhaust system ....we all should fit a " by-pass" but I'm not sure that we' ll be well accepted around us 😂 ... Anyway, friend of mine driving for a big compagny, 100 % v8 with Chéreau, also meet same problems as you on many of their trucks and it seems ( IT SEEMS ...) that' s because they do not run with maximum weight very often .. Take care mate . Greatings from Brittany.

[@jonathanworthing6278]

Could have a heater plug breaking down.

[@kevingrier4958]

If you ever get to see a showman tractor unit look an see where the fifth wheel is set .

[@theoneandonlyneagabi]

There you go, that's modern Volkswagen quality

[@arzamumma1202]

7-23-23 USA Hey Stavros.....................keep the iron rolling "if you can" !!!!!

[@JimboLana]

Tag axle is even good in winter. We in Scandinavia are driving tractor units with tag axle.

[@rosen9425]

Depends on use. All I see is eastern euro trucks coming up to drive winter roads with two axle / tag axle trucks ending up everywhere except staying on the road

[@JimboLana]

@@rosen9425 they don't have experience, thats why. I have been driving since 1998 with tag axle and no problem.

[@philiphockey7996]

Give a iveco 570 a go,crap trim so keep the cab protetive plastic to protect the driver from falling trim,but they don't seem to stop

[@bogdangvr3884]

Welcome to the volkswagen era

[@Beksization]

I love the accent. ❤

[@roger.g.walters_6398]

Well Stavros you may need to start thinking about going back to electric again lol

[@Howlin000]

I can't believe this!

[@trljotrljic2697]

Would be very nice to see a video about all the trucks you have ever drove in RLT in your career, i am sure you have some old footage and would be nice for you to remember all of the trucks and the work you used to do... Cheers.

[@michaelstaunton1632]

Count to 5 …… deep breath….. stay sane !!!

[@amosdlangamandla7408]

That guy from South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@robertgardner4508]

Parked regens, especially on american trucks which have horrible designed DEF (AdBlue) systems only do so much before the filter gets so gunked up it has to be either replaced or blasted out by a shop. But your trucks lasted much longer than any american truck I've drove with under 130k miles having twice the amount of DEF issues, and other junk. I get the troubles, but your trucks still beat our by years!

[@MrPegman02011]

DPF and ADCRAP

[@seamushorgan4498]

Had a 520 scania did the same it's a tap since

[@tjroelsma]

It looks like you've gotten a "good old" Monday morning truck. A newish vehicle that's always having problems, but just never enough to have it replaced.

[@stuartcraigon2003]

Question is, how many problems before you reject the truck back to Scania for a refund. At the best part of a 100 grand plus or minus 10 grand if your replacing the same part more than twice its going back.

[@tjroelsma]

@@stuartcraigon2003 Agreed, if the same component(s) keep on failing, that truck is probably never going to be fine, so the wise thing to do is to send it back. But for many people it's kind of hard to say "enough is enough".

[@stuartcraigon2003]

@tjroelsma yeah I bet, especially if the technicians and dealer have been good about stuff and tried and its under warranty, and most folk buy new motors are with an R&M package anyway. I think its a relationship thing, if you've been brand loyal for a long time and only now problems are creeping in and the dealer is doing their best of course it would be hard to say nah I'm done with this. I guess when you've lost too much in revenue because its in the dealer workshop you'd get pissed off enough eventually. 🤷‍♂️

[@tjroelsma]

@@stuartcraigon2003 I agree, and that's what manufacturers are counting on and shamelessly abusing in my opinion: the relationship between dealers and clients (I've always bought Scania's from dealer X, because they've always treated me well and I trust them).

[@dannycasson2487]

Never been the same since vw bought them

[@MohammadsardarbaigMohdJa-dy1sp]

Morning my brother

[@user-cm2fg3dm3g]

well Stavros you must remember these things are sent to try us

[@jonathanworthing6278]

That is definitely a heater plug or as they call it glow plug breaking down.

[@patraoblitztruckenthusiast1525]

So after changing the sensor did they delete the fault code or it cleared itself

[@frankiepaterson8232]

Stavros, great videos mate. I just wondered why you run the V8 when you can get the L6 in almost similar power to yours?

[@SzwarcuKX5]

Sound and torque ;)

[@edmilsonafonso8852]

Man, you look like Bruce Dickinson, from Iron!

[@ZedGriffin15]

What cameras are those that you put on your windscreen

[@michaelbalele929]

Nice video ❤❤❤❤❤❤ to best of 🇹🇿🇹🇿🇹🇿🇹🇿🇹🇿🇹🇿😊

[@wildgamer1221]

You may see about getting a volvo

[@c.b.fiskekatten4214]

Cool trucks!!! Iveco isn't a truck, it's a toilet.... 🤣. Anyway why not try the new Volvo FH-truck???

[@Ziu21]

Hahahaha I didn’t know you are Greek, because I’m me too👍

[@aaronm2742]

Time for a volvo😂

[@barrycrosby8602]

Talking to a scania fitter he said there have been a load of issues with companies or drivers having big v8 but pulling light loads on a regular basis or mixed loads these engines need to be worked hard so on max weights most of the time Mabee a inline 6 around 500 hp would have been more suitable as the company I work for have these pulling 40 tons plus never had a single issue and we have a big fleet, I know the v8 sounds nice but is it worth the hassle

[@stuartcraigon2003]

Most badged V8's are actually 480 or 500. Much like widebore exhausts and pops and bangs on a golf people stick fake badges on trucks too and dream. Your simply not going to buy a v8 unless your doing plant or heavy haulage, no one in their right mind would do that. That would be the equivalent of my nan buying a golf gti to go to the shops!

[@abdullahikamaalhassan1122]

You drove by me today

[@mickpalmer3521]

What I don't like with all these DPF issues is what are we the drivers breathing in , if engines cannot deal with it What are our lungs doing , just look at the crystallisation at ad blu pumps to think ...mmmm is this right ?

[@DavidJohnston58]

Scania will get you into a truck with no dpf problems when you trade in next year! Stavros. 250 to 350 km between charges! I know you're gonna love it! 😂

[@danieljordannicol9937]

CHEEEEÈEEEEEEEERSSS 😂😂😂

[@alexrobinson2281]

Think I’ll just stick with my Daf wagon and drag 460 , 12 reg 👍👍

[@Boomtater92]

Wait, Did he say 13 cylinder? What kind of experiments does nolan have going? What's that torque rating on that beast? 🤔 lol love your content!

[@Mr330d]

16 Litre 3000NM Torque

[@stephenbland7461]

It’s the same with modern cars as well…..as soon as one gizmo shows a fault, suddenly all the either gizmo’s start showing faults as well….it’s as if they are all interconnected and one single fault just starts off a chain reaction…..too much electronics ….

[@tomast9034]

.........but but but its more green /irony off....

[@mrt3976]

I'm a fitter for one of the UK,s biggest bus companies, we run a lot of scania buses and they all give problems with adblu and blocked DPF,s and also electrical problems, IMHO scania aren't the company they used to be, I'm not saying the other bus manufacturers are problem free but scania are by far the worst, it's a shame because when I worked as a truck fitter when the 2, 3 and 4 series scania,s were still being used I would have said they were a great truck, not so sure now....

[@shortwalk8551]

OK Stavros as you run a mixed fleet which is the better when it comes to reliability as they’re all infested with euro 6 garbage, of course could be other issues such as build quality etc. it does appear Scania is no longer top dog, what do you think?

[@Safaricom_]

8:15 CB so you can talk BS 😂😂😂

[@fermzy]

These exsust systems seem to be the cause of all the jip these days

[@lawrencevanderwesthuizen2628]

Stavros your tolls are dirt cheap! In South Africa you can pay up to R600 at some toll gates. Thats about €30

[@klyrouxas]

Scania series 3 only oil and diesel.

[@toeknee5464]

I was gonna comment on the last video would it be time for a new bus

[@Snowman5646cj]

I’m sure I was told/heard that there is different grades of AdBlue. A lot of the problems we have with trucks is to do with the AdBlue we use. (Can’t remember if it was DAF or Merc who told me that or I’m just dreamt it haha)

[@rosen9425]

Sounds like dealer bs to me. Adblue is ISO-standard regulated just like fuel. I wouldn't produce substandard adblue getting caught out for emissions regulation fraud. That is serious crap in legal terms

[@keithavian8129]

The main ingredient for DEF (Adblue is a brand name) is de-ionised pig wee

[@leenderonde8723]

Ever heard of optispray?

[@alangordon3283]

Was forever having the adblue system flushed on a DAF LF. My Golf GT was needing a regeneration every now and again.

[@danielfrazier6719]

Even in North America they are terrible one of the most unreliable parts of a diesel vehicle aside from the EGR Valves

[@LongIslandMopars]

Yep. Diesel emissions equipment is the worst. Diesel is the lifeblood of an economy. The more it costs to operate the more it impacts everything else. Commercial rigs should be exempted from this garbage.

[@danielfrazier6719]

@LongIslandMopars Not just that but with different ways of reducing emissions with current technology Diesel electric /Phev Diesel Hybrid trucks plus could eliminate the idling of hundreds of thousands of trucks during one night

[@andresgoyzueta74]

Wow and I thought Europe had a handle and experience with the emissions system and america was the only one with the problems, who knew

[@SirBioSnake]

Volvos arent much better, the 2020 FH I drive has 360,000 kilometers on it and this year its had a exhaust manifold gasket fail, an alternator failure, a siezed brake caliper, a coulple abs sensors and the sunroof leaks. I imagine all manufacturers must be the same nowadays.

[@tomast9034]

........sell poop for the price of a diamond. just barelly do the warranty.

[@maheshodedra5241]

Upload daily vlogs

[@steetee725]

Have you been late with that V8 at all????

[@darrenfarrell-bn2cb]

New Lorries, Are Causing serious Issues For Dam All. No One Seems To Question The Faults , wait Until These Mirrorless Start To Cause Trouble Serious None Vision

[@bennoben1653]

We’re Doomed !!! With all this modern technology

[@tomnapier681]

I wonder what the urea being burnt in the process is doing to people ? talking to an engine rebuilder his conclusion engines are going backwards with all the electronic things that do or will give trouble Mack was doing a refrigerated air for power and efficiency not sure where that went making the particulate matter finer and less detectable hasnt solved any problem how much down time are electonic problems adding to transport company costs ?

[@dafxf9668]

Any news on evergreen 🌲 Captain error or mechanical fault

[@badcampa2641]

Crosswinds were the primary component, tightness of the channel prevented adequate counter-steering, the ships speed made it all happen to fast.

[@rosen9425]

Really stupid pilots seems to be the main fault. The way they manoeuvred Ever given sounds completely crazy. They had a similar size vessel in front who didn't have problems navigating. Captain should've booted the Suez canal pilots off the bridge as soon as weird stuff started happening.

[@badcampa2641]

@@rosen9425 EG is the ultimate high sided vehicle and it towers over the landscape at the canal, the pilots aren't used to this class ship and gusts are unpredictable. Was an accident.

[@rosen9425]

@@badcampa2641 It's a Suez Max class vessel and used by all the giants in shipping. It should be very familiar to al Suez Pilots Cosco Galaxy is identical in size and was sailing ahead of EG without issue. This accident is a breakdown of crew resource management. Pilots clearly didn't have control of the situation doing weird manoeuvres compared to Cosco Galaxy.

[@nesh2003]

I think its all due to the year of build which was during the covid duration where many companies had lack of staff and also material so maybe its lacking some quality control there

[@rosen9425]

nah these emissions system has always been crap at best of times. I used to run dedicated tankers meaning maxed out legal weight 50% of the time and lots of motorway constant A to B driving which is optimal for getting the DPF in the right temp range. Older Scania rarely to never showed problems while every single Volvo had visits to the dealer every three months on avg. Even had an entire circuit board assembly for the adblue; crap out thanks to placement + salty roads. A €3000 early Christmas present for the company

[@user-dg3oy2cq6m]

Does anyone writing these comments actually know what they’re talking about ? DPF filter is an actual filter, the clue is in the name !!!! So it’s a serviceable part. Would anyone complain if their truck needed an air filter ? Also the Nox sensors aren’t made by Scania, and all truck manufacturers are suffering from these poorly made sensors.

[@petarelez595]

New MAN next cmon

[@ashterfadgadget817]

I've always fancied an S series Scania but this is putting me off.

[@onlywatching6504]

My company gave me a new Mercedes Sprinter minibus for a couple of years ago. The engine lamp lit already the first day. The reason was malfunction of «NOX sensor no.2». I drove about 15k km before it was fixed.

[@justin.4583]

Straight Pipe the V8 she will run better!! 💪💪💨💨😎

[@woodennecktie]

imagine the army using scania and the lights wil not turn of

[@mtha4788]

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[@danieljordannicol9937]

Get rid

[@IgorVangelov-no7wk]

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