If Spectre Divide FAILS, Gamers are the PROBLEM

Spectre Divide has received a lot of (what I believe to be) unwarranted hate since launch. Today, I discuss some pain points I feel while watching a great game get "bood" from the sidelines. Leave a like and subscribe, enjoy the video.
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[@roshanjoseph6094]

It's really annoying man these days gamers have such low tolerance and their ego is off the roof

[@mckvns]

So many ADHD riddled brats in the gaming community. Touch grass.

[@kayantonius]

yup, off the roof for no reason.

[@agiliteka]

yeah people complain about anything, like the new R6 season was getting so much flak, despite being an objectively good update, being a lot to the game along with much needed rebalancing.

[@kageferguson6906]

Low tolerance? People are just genuinely sick of cartoony graphics or generic hero shooters. Most over saturated market ever

[@Alig80r]

I’m a 2 thousand hour Valorant player. This game is way different and I am enjoying it so much more

[@Jaxxsy]

i would say the same thing if i got 2k hrs on val on gold elo

[@Alig80r]

@@Jaxxsyi can help you get out of gold just dm me

[@car1867]

2k hours on val is embarrassing 🤮

[@Alig80r]

@@car1867 what should i play? Roblox with you instead?

[@Alig80r]

@@Jaxxsy if you need help getting out of gold dm me

[@Milty_The_Great]

I feel like we could do an entire podcast on the current attitude the culture has towards hating on new games lmao.

[@staycationtg]

You bring the blunts, I’ll bring the fire. I’m ready to let it all out

[@h0boCS]

@@staycationtg 🌳🌳🌳

[@iamgnud1092]

Exactly, hating on everything is such a toxic culture. I have to REGISTER an account? Cancel the game. Shroud is my most disliked Pro player therefore the game is bad, cancel the game. This game looks kinda like Val and CS? Bad game. This character is gay? too woke, cancel it.

[@zK3NN1Ez]

​@@staycationtg Can I edit sir?

[@izzulhaziq4898]

Deadlock didn't get hate tho, it's actually thriving

[@danielcunha4377]

One of my best friends has around 7k hours of CSGO and after he tried this game, he said, this is the best thing to come out after sliced bread. Valorant fanboys need to chill. This game is so good it has gotten the attention of COD players, CSGO, R6 SIEGE and even VALORANT players themselves. I do not remember seeing any other game pulling this off. Why is it so hard for people to just sit and enjoy an effin game these days?!!!!!

[@matthatt5084]

Because when people aren’t good at something instantaneously, they need something to blame other than themselves or lack of time and effort put toward something.

[@seadee2834]

It's got no attention lmao this guy has 500k subs and only 3k people clicked this video. The game is struggling numbers wise and most people, including shroud himself, prefer other games.

[@danielcunha4377]

​@@seadee2834 I wonder how much they spent marketing this game... (if they spent at all). This not being Shroud's favourite game does not change that much other than help promoting it, if you stop to think about it. Yes SHROUD IS SHROUD but also, Shroud is Shroud. I do not like CSGO... I hate Valorant... But love this game. My mates that play CS and Valorant also love it. IT NEEDS SOME OPTIMISATION and server stability but we're enjoying it.

[@spixxy1751]

@@seadee2834 thanks for prooving the point to everybody lmao... u are a prime example of such a "gamer" that cant even enjoy games lol

[@seadee2834]

​@@spixxy1751 lmao enjoy your game where you have to work with yourself because you can't find anyone to play with you

[@veinnzofficial]

Finally someone adressing this, you are absolutely right, this game is not valorant, is not cs and if you want to play those game then go ahead and play it, this game is different, dont complain that you cant shoot like u do in valorant or cs, it is a different game, it is a unique masterpice of a game, it is absolutely fantastic.

[@TheReal_FishFins]

I enjoy all three. You can rotate and play what your in the mood for.

[@sadetwizelve]

How is it a masterpiece?

[@sepachortels6366]

You can be one of the 200 players left playing it in 2 months

[@shinoMusic]

Idk man, the game is pretty slow and boring

[@FawtGaming]

I agree with everything you said, this game is gas! I'm having so much more fun as a new player than I did when I started playing Val. Also people need to chill on skin bundles being too expensive, or not what you wanted that's literally something optional you do not need to buy skins. People need to chill about cosmetic microtransactions.

[@Starkya]

+ Valorant has the same prices

[@FawtGaming]

@@Starkya yeah exactly lol, I get the argument Val skins are worth it cause the looks absolutely sick. But at the end of the day it’s a free game with optional cosmetics lol

[@Dyzz21]

Kinda worried this one will go the way of The Finals, I really liked that game as well but everyone just forgot it exists

[@matthatt5084]

And that’s funny cause the finals is the only other FPS I really enjoy right now besides spectre

[@niccolodeon2397]

@@matthatt5084same bro lmao taking a break from the finals to specifically play spectre lol

[@bigmattvo]

These 2 games are the only games I play. I couldn't get into Valorant and I'm tired of Apex and BRs in general

[@lukasdontknow7194]

The finals at least have its loyal playerbase.

[@xxchendricksxx1]

​@bigmattvo I could see that. Valorant is really boring and campy to me and Apex is hard to get back into if you're not a movement and aim god. Even with me being top 1-4% on all aimlabs tasks apex is hard for me to get acclimated to again. Valorant I went from trash to above average in 3 days or so. There's not much to learn there.

[@tennek127]

Valorant console player here, 200+ hours, I haven’t even got to touch Spectre and I can tell it’s different, just waiting on a console version and I’ll gladly spend thousands on their bundles, 3v3 tac shooter with an anime-ish borderlands look? Ummm yes please!! Ps there’s a ugly toxic side to the valorant community btw, they hate everything so I wouldn’t take those steam reviews seriously lol

[@kandyrew]

loving this style of content, very well done

[@staycationtg]

❤️❤️❤️

[@tc_kommark]

You should not be allowed to make a steam review without 10+ hours or even more in game.

[@SleepDaemon]

For games that are free to play yes, for games that you pay to play no. Why? Because it speaks for itself, you paying money to play. If I were to get a phone and not allowed to give my 2 cents about it until 1 year of owning it has passed then that would be stupid. I agree on this for free to play, cause anyone can just add it to their library and post a review. Easy to automate review bombing.

[@DRiFT-oo]

Played CS for almost 2k hours, valorant for almost 1.5k hours, and Spectre Divide for about slightly less than 30 hours; NO. This is a different game. Shooting mechanics are different, reliance on RNG are different. Well yes you get the same game mode as all three of those (heck, you can even play Siege if that's you want). I enjoy spectre because of mostly 3 things: 1. No more earthquakes, laser beam from the sky, a freaking bazooka, none of those. Mountaintop clearly stated you cannot have Ultimates in this game. Great approach. 2. Lesser reliance on teammates, which is something I am looking for in an online FPS for a very long time. Heck, I can trade myself. 3. Lesser RNG, and have a clear choice when to use what. If you want to peek faster, but care less about first-shot accuracy, go for hipfire. You want sustained spray with predictable pattern? Go for ADS. TL:DR, more shooting, less complaining on RNG. Edit: I don't have to stop while shooting! You might have different opinion than mine if one is better than the other but I don't care. I play Spectre because I enjoy it.

[@GaurangPlays]

Title is sooo true. In last 4 years of playing valorant for more than 3k hours, I've never enjoyed any other game until now.

[@ninjacowboy1002]

The game is amazing I’m literally hosting my own tournaments just to try and help keep the community alive and well

[@redlovespython]

in the discord its really annoying to see people call it failure for not charting top 50 off the bat, have we not learned our lesson with no mans sky?

[@h0boCS]

I have one of the most Upvoted "👍"Reviews on Steam for Spectre Divide right now and I am stunned by the brainrot response I got from people who just want to hate for the sake of hating.... I really love the Game and I just hope a reasonable amount of people will stay to keep the game alive or even make it great in the long term. Stay Strong Fans and rise up!!

[@tylersimo1977]

I’ve played valorant and cs. I’ve hit diamond 3 in valorant and can without a doubt say I enjoy this game way more. I also think it’s more appealing since you get two chances it gives solo players more opportunity. Not to mention getting older I can normally only get two of my buddies online so this game hits it perfect. Absolutely love this game!

[@johnex2154]

It's so funny how people are crying that valorant is stale and boring but when another game comes to spice it up they talk about val like its godsent. I play both and they have a pretty large amount of transferable skills but the life of it is different. This is literally everything val players say they want: new maps, new abilities, new gamemode, new twist to spice it up, but at their core they're all just haters, hating on both games. And for the hardcore valorant players, competition is always good. If this game succeeds it'll push riot to finally do something so everyone doesn't switch over. A new agent and a new map every 6 months doesn't cut it anymore. This game adds an amazing twist with the duality, is very polished and controls great, the abilities are strong but they never take away from the gunplay, and I personally think the balance is great. It's fun, it's intense, and you can express a lot of skill and be rewarded for it. I'll still visit valorant when new agents and maps come out, but this game stole my heart when it comes to tactical shooters.

[@Zelthy265]

I've been playing since the *very* early playtests and it has absolutely ruined every other shooter for me. I uninstalled both Val and CS as soon as they announced the release date, and there hasn't been a single day where I've been tempted to reinstall. I've also had access to Deadlock for months, and I'd choose Spectre over that any day. Sure, it has a bigger playerbase, but when you're only in alpha and you're already coming across toxicity every second game, that's enough to show exactly what kind of game it's going to turn into. Not something I'm interested in. I'll play Spectre until it dies. Hopefully it doesn't. They made a great game and deserve more recognition and grace than what they're getting right now.

[@johnex2154]

@@Zelthy265 Absolutely, this game deserves the best! Haven't been able to play deadlock but honestly looks meh. Do you think it's carried by the fact that valve finally released something or does it have something to it?

[@nickc3163]

I’m with you brotha! Enjoying the game immensely! Keep pushing the positive energy and we can keep it alive. The concept is awesome. People need to spend a few hours on it and dive in before bashing it. Major potential game.

[@franFPShooter]

I think people that say the Game is like valorant have brain rot. They havent even played the game. For a fps shooter veteran I think the game feels good. Literary from my first second I was like damn it feels different. The maps are completely different and the way you play the game is completely different . Overall the game needs to get morr polished but for me personally I get a Superior feeling when getting a frag in this game than any other shooter i ve played. By that I just mean it feels good. I am tired of valve type of handling things or chinese riot games. I hope this game lasts because I enjoy it . Even if it fails I might personally just play casual when I have time and chill ( low players Count - high ranked games high queue time)

[@Davids6994]

Concord walked so that Spectre could run 🥺

[@kazoh17]

I’ve played a lot of FPS games, and I can definitely say this one is different from what I’ve experienced before. So far, I’ve been enjoying it.

[@fabriziocruz3183]

i love Spectre because you dont need 5 friends to play it.

[@Marbl.]

I’ve played cs and valorant for around 1400-2500hrs and I can say spectre is a breath of fresh air

[@LMPDM4kRO]

One thing i dont understand i like, I have seen lots of ONLY complaining about the price an trashing the game, sometimes saying, played for 30 MINUTES, and hated because of BLA BLA BLA Bro, do you want something to play or spend money on it ??! I would like to have the skins of course, but the most thing that i care about it is if i am having a good time, which i have, im invested in the game, i have being playing a little bit at least everyday! Have being following the channel and the tips since the release of the game thanks for the content and support ! i dont want this game to die!

[@harpsdesire4200]

I know you weren't the biggest fan of Concord, but I appreciate you were one of the few people who actually thought for themselves and gave the game of fair shot while offering valid criticisms. The fact that this game which I think is also pretty good sadly has a chance to fail because of all the negativity online really has shown me, that as a whole gamers are insufferable manchildren. You simply cannot please a gamer; with concord, gamers rightly complained about how free to play as a model is ruining the industry and then a competent long ttk multiplayer shooter with practically no technical issues at launch comes out for a below average price of 40 dollars and then they whine that is not free. And the same issues apply with specter divide; albeit for different reasons.

[@AndyTurcu]

Hi! I recently discovered you here, on KZbin, but also on Twitch. I love what you do! I've been playing Specter Divide for a very short time (7.4 hours). Ever since I saw the first official clip with the game, I said that I have to try it when it is released. It feels different compared to Valorant, I like it. Good luck!

[@slipshod8286]

I completely agree, but remember that this exact series of events played out for valorant when it came out in beta. everyone said, oh its just a csgo clone, they're just copying cs, blah blah blah. The only similarities between these three games (CS, Val, Spectre) is that they're first person tac shooters. And even though they are the same general genre of game, all three play completely differently and have their own flow. So im not exactly worried about spectre failing because of this. the only thing that scares me is that mountain is an independent dev studio which could mix badly with the negative reviews and make the game fail, mountaintop is not Riot ya know. But I think that is offset by the fact that shroud is not only endorsing the game but is one of the brainstormers behind the scenes, and that makes me pretty sure that we'll be playing this game for years and years after this point. Keep bringing more eyes to this game man! The bigger it gets the more fun it'll be and i can't wait for the future of this game.

[@johnex2154]

I've played all three extensively and while cs will always be the king of raw gunplay, I think this game strikes the perfect balance of abilities/utilities. I feel like valorant is way too ability heavy which makes for a more casual setting, and if that's your thing by all means go ahead, but spectre just has such a balanced experience where the abilities really elevate the gunplay. Duality aside, I think that's where this game really excels compared to the other two, and you really don't know it till you've sunken some time. I played csgo for years but decided to drop it for valorant because I wanted something to spice it up, and abilities were that. It wasn't as sweaty and the game didn't take itself as serious, which was a nice mix up. Now I'm in the same spot of mostly dropping valorant for spectre because just like csgo, there isn't much keeping valorant fresh. This is a natural evolution in the gaming world and it's hard to change valorant in any meaningful way without dismembering the pro scene and making the whole community flip out. I love what league did with the recent seasons, changing things up a lot, and while everyone panicked, they adapted and welcomed the drastic changes as a good thing. I don't know if that's possible with valorant but I'm betting it will bring back all the players who've already worn out the game. Till that happens Ill be grinding spectre!

[@B..P..]

Valorant had millions of players on release thanks to covid lockdowns. This game has 20,000 and declining fast. They also butchered the launch of this game with so many issues.

[@tthreat23]

I would be worried about this game bc Shroud isn’t even playing it right now. He’s playing Deadlock. For him not to be heavily grinding this game to promote it to others is telling. Not to say the same isn’t good, but if one of the guys heavily involved in its development is playing something else, what does that say about Spectre Divide?

[@Osas_Sun]

This spectre divide vids reminds of when staycation switch from cod to apex in 2019 peak staycation incoming 👀

[@nokta7373]

I appreciate the passion, but my man, going the route "If the game fails it's the gamers fault" it's a slippery slope. That's what Disney is doing when they claim the audience don't go watch their movies and it's the audience's fault. When a product fails is never the customer fault, it's the product fault. It either failed to capture the audience interest with a good narrative or to innovate enough to distinguish themselves from the competitors. With 800 concurrent players and 3500 peak players on Steam, seems to me that Spectre Divide falls in one or both of these categories. It might be a good game but in a saturated market it probably isn't good or different enough to set itself apart and capture an audience. If the game is good and resonate with players, players will come, if they don't come, it's not their fault, it's the game's fault.

[@MaximilianRivera]

The comparisons are such a stretch it annoys me, I feel its unique in a lot of ways. I've been following you since the early days of apex glad to see you playing something new. Thanks for the keybind video too!!

[@soda_mizu]

VECTOR, OH YEAH 🗣🗣🗣

[@oversharingturtle4462]

No it’s not gamers problem, it’s a marketing problem

[@SlfGee]

Honestly the game just doesn’t look appealing imo not even marketing but I had no idea it came out until I saw the ad’s on instagram and I forgot about it till today so I went to check some videos out and I’m still at the same conclusion

[@medzhijazi]

I'm hooked on this game the only thing I disagree with is the store can't justify paying that much for something I can't re sell

[@JustMiggie]

I really want this game to succeed because I’m loving it more than csgo or val by a long shot

[@GoFlyAKite]

You had good takes on another recent game that absolutely bombed, so thanks again Stay for being a rational voice.

[@harpsdesire4200]

Are you talking about concord?

[@samrodgers4973]

Have around 2k hours on csgo having an absolute blast w spectre

[@orthometa-ei3fq]

We should build up the community around this cool game!!

[@lightsan]

i was excited about this game too! But like its so unoptimized, and the ping like 100+ its just very irritating !

[@flavioalberto3371]

Valorant prime skins are still one of the coolest bundles in valorant, and all the bundles you showed on video are awful. Despite that, couldn't agree more with your points. I played a lot o Valorant, but SD artwork direction is way more elegant and gameplay mechanics are very creative.

[@Drew_HBK]

As someone who’s emerald currently, I’m tired of how terrible optimized the game is. I’m dipping to 80fps at times and on 70ping compared to 300fps on Valorant. The game is fun and has potential but not going to put time into a game with a shitty net code

[@kuroko6441]

Even if we say that’s 100% copy of Valorant it comes to the simplest reasons such as communities while I agree that spectre divide is fun and unique but I also like the community so far way more than valorant’s community

[@darketll8983]

Great gameplay!

[@SleepDaemon]

Blaming gamers here is false, it's rather certain players within the gamer community. Specifically, CSGO and Valorant players are mainly the ones I see don't find the game good. Now, not saying every CS or Valo player is like that, I've read the comments here and there is decent number of them who like the game. But you will have the avg. CS and Valo player complaining. CS players are the ones who complain about the gameplay the most while Valo players complain about the store pricing for skins the most (not surprised since they love buying dragon skins). I never played either games and find the game fun and good, it has kinks to work out but it is expect for a game like this for taking its own spin on this genre of shooter. Concorde failure was mostly its own fault, it was advertise as a Hero shooter when it played and felt like a CoD game. Not to mention $40 to play compare to free to play model most hero shooters are these days. As for the "woke", Overwatch tried to add LGBT to their game but most people just didn't care or forgot, not many people know but Soldier 76 is gay (was revealed in some short novel that was posted on twitter) and Tracer is a lesbian (this I think a few people know). We can't also blame ourselves as gamers cause games recently just been bad, mainly Ubisoft games and other big AAA studios/publishers. The market has fully outed masculine games from 2000s, I am not saying non-masculines arent welcome but they shouldn't let to the complete removal of masculine games. As of now Space marine 2 is one of the few masculine games left. We of course gonna get new Doom and Gears of War, but it will be awhile till they release and knowing Microsoft it might get delayed. I will end of saying this, you have the right to disagree certain parts of this statement or the entire statement. But please share your opinion and thoughts in a civil manner. I don't want to cause a trash talk fight in the replies, calling each other swear words and etc. Do expect others and maybe me to not fully agree on what you say. Remember we all gamers here in the end we all enjoy playing games.

[@Luvidus]

after 15 years of tactical shooters Cs 1.6 to cs go, adding valorant, and in general shooters, this must be some of the most interesting sessions i had, playing this game for 3 matches had me hooked and i am amazed how the devs started, they are direct and admit their mistakes, also listening to us on socials.. something you dont see now days in games! for me this is an absolute banger of a game, and totally different then the other tac shooters out there atm.. whitch explains the anger, also people are scared to learn new stuff in general.

[@LukeMeurig-Evans]

Everything said I agree with, except when it came to the microtransactions. In the first place comparing the cosmetic prices of spectre divide to valorant is bad, valorant is overly expensive and greedy but people are fine about that because it is produced as a AAA game from a massive corporation (RIOT) where abnormal greed is to be expected. Spectre divide however is an indie game and isn't backed by a massive company, their prices shouldn't be anywhere near the greedy ask that AAA companies have. In the first place, valortant is a game that sets itself apart from other big corporations with their monetization greed so its a shit thing to compare an indie games monetization policy to one of if not worst monetization greed to ever exist - Valorant. Spectre divide did not have the advertisement and production costs that valorant had and so it is reasonably expected that it wont be as popular, looking at the current active player size for the two games you can see how big valorant is in comparison. A smaller game should never adopt the monetization policies of a massive game.

[@sdguy55]

Gamers- 'Ugh games are ALL THE SAME NOW!!! Why can't anyone take some risks and put out something NEW' Also gamers- 'Wow this is like a bad version of Valorant. Valorant just does this so much better. Everybody should just go play Valorant'

[@ojsimpson4864]

It’s honestly crazy that people can’t just accept that this game is great, this game is so vastly different from valorant and offers new amazing features that have never been seen before in gaming, the Duality feature is phenomenal and offers players so many different ways to play the game, the gunplay is completely different as well, it’s literally a completely different gaming experience and feels absolutely nothing like its counterparts.

[@mhkb24]

Gamers have become extremely spoiled. They simplify the direction of games just to troll and hate and it is now a trend to jump in the band wagon. You’re completely right …. If this game dies , it’s not because of the game. The game is unique in many many ways.

[@fmnate7798]

bro said prime is doodoo but brought up a picture of guns with literally just a skin on it.

[@Sunrunner663]

If people kill this game because of their ignorance, I'm probably done with competitive shooters forever. I play Counter Strike since 2012 with over 4K hours and FINALLY this Spectre Divide delivers a really fresh of breath air to the scene. Also Valorant players complaining about a game being stolen while they were 'inspired' by CS in a heavy way is ridiculous.

[@unable5523]

The fact that you enjoy your first FPS game is great but there are plenty of people who are looking for a good FPS game because lthey are so tired of greedy uncooked games like Valorant, CS2, and now Spectre Divide. The game is terrible, from sound distance to damage, hit registration, desync of bullets while spray and so much more, add the fact that none asked for a 3v3 which is actual 6v6 game, and there you are, a game that nobody needed and it works really bad. They are greedy, this game will die if they will not fix it asap imo.

[@iamgnud1092]

I truly sometimes wonder, what kind of game REALLY satisfy people like you, that like to complain 24/7 These problems are such common problems that so many multiplayer games face on release, that always need to be tested on a bigger scale of con-current players in order to be acknowledge and fix. You are pointing bugs and saying the game is bad...? It's like saying your theatre have shitty screen, therefore the movie is shit. Your opinion on 3v3 or 6v6 is your own, you don't need it, but plenty people do. (i hate soccer, therefore nobody like soccer - sounds stupid?). I can go further into game designing details to explain why people would want 3v3 but actually 6v6 feature (hate on 1-death per round games, but a respawn? count me in, etc)

[@unable5523]

@@iamgnud1092 They had to keep developing the game at least to make it playable, listen to community feedback from close beta, Dude nothing has been changed from close beta (with huge feedback) to release. Is it not enough to explain that they were just greedy? Skins are ready in pipe line to release week after week but what about the gameplay itself? I A M TIRED OF UNFINISHED GAMES

[@iamgnud1092]

@@unable5523People work on skins are in a COMPLETELY different team with bugs and infrastructure fixing team. So, because of the game has bugs, people work on skins aren't allowed to publish or release its contents? So how do you make money to keep on working...? And bugs happen AFTER, i repeat, AFTER, getting players to play it. So they can only start working on it AFTER bugs are presented. Plus, these bugs are all networking bugs, that can ONLY monitor with bigger player based. But SKINS, in other hands, belong to different team that work months/years prior to the release of the game. How hard is it to understand these BASIC things as an average person.

[@shanilarnabofficial6969]

I have over 10K hours on CSGO and around 6K hours in Valorant. I have played in high lobbies of both. Spectre Divide felt like a breath of fresh air. It has a completely different shooting and movement mechanism from CS or Val. If anything Val is more like CS than spectre is like Val (if at all). Let’s not let toxic communities ruin what we love.

[@deanz_]

I think the reason people liken it to Valorant so much is because the UI is VERY similar (exactly the same in some areas). If the UI was more original, Spectre Divide's unique gameplay and art style would be front and center when comparing it to other tac shooters.

[@W00JDA]

The most unintuitive thing to me about internet was always that hundreds or thousands of people could be talking complete bullshit. Steam forums among other things made me learn that. I'm all up for criticism but logic and attitude of some people hurts my brain. MHW is being called dead all the time despite having 20k active players daily, more than the new one at least on steam. It's like twitter but with gamers that despite years of experience don't know anything about games.

[@How__]

My biggest complaint is that in all the matches I’ve played, I’m yet to play on west coast servers.

[@daviddelic5168]

its cause poeples attention span have gone to hell from the braindead overuse of social media which led to people not having any patience or tolerance for the struggle of learning anything new. Love this degeneration

[@kevincatal8869]

People don’t realize that every game is a “rip-off” these days. Of course it’s gonna have similarities to Valorant and Counter-Strike, it’s made by people who enjoyed those games and wanted to improve on the formula.

[@jiromomo1972]

I feel like some players don't know that you can upgrade the skins just by playing and have the skin of your choice as you active endorsement. I just saw just steam review where they're complaining that this game have the same currency for buying and upgrading unlike in Valorant where the currency is separated and buying the upgrading currency is dummy expensive.

[@kowalskeyy]

100% AGREE, this game is super unique and people don't want to give it a chance at all. Nearly everyone I've spoken to just doesn't wanna bother with a new game with all the knockoffs nowadays and just chalking it up to being a VAL copy which is insane. Such unique gunplay, concepts and opportunities to create new strats that you simply can't in any other game. You can throw a smoke and TP inside it as it pops, that instantly opens up the skill gap possible by so much needing to be aware constantly of both characters position in the map along with how many different features you have like that smoke TP Another thing people seem to forget: This game runs freaking amazing. I'd say 10x better than how CS2's pile of garbage makes you lag constantly. Art style is not intensive at all on machine and makes the game infinitely more enjoyable

[@df10k68]

You shouldn’t have to explain yourself brother , want to see some longer videos of gameplay from you love the content!

[@Lazarras]

Finally someone with weight among players is adressing this, thank u. I get so annoyed when pps say it's valorant, i was dying to hear someone say something about this. The 2 games have nothing in common exept for the genre and this death report in the right after u get killed. Gamers just love to hate, and if there is nothing to hate they will find something and then hate it.

[@samanthaperry4543]

I think people (like me) who default back to valorant do so because they dont want to suffer through the skill gap from beginner to competent beginner. Starting spectre divide reminded me of my life in valorant's Iron rank. Unlike other games though, i really love this game as a first impression. I love the customisation of characters in spectre divide and would love more if possible. Im struggling to get used to the SLOW pace in each round. I love the tactics, but you have to walk everywhere because of spectres so the gameplay is slower to execute. It takes a lot of mental energy, which can drain from the excitement of first loading in (but im going to assume that this is something i need to learn better)

[@rogercruz1547]

The ghost in the shell aesthetic is really attractive

[@igieoo2805]

FINALLY seeing someone address this issue! I’ve been saying all the same shit you have, it’s been so annoying to see people shoot the game down when they don’t know anything about it. As someone who played Valorant for four years, the game is stale and no longer fun. The community is toxic and grinding ranked in that game isn’t worth the time or effort anymore. When specter divide was announced I was BEYOND excited. It was a fresh and new concept, and way less middle man in the game play- its one of the most anticipated and unique games I’ve seen in a long time. I hate that the Valorant community has been so harsh towards the game considering they got the same treatment when Valorant came out. These people literally WATCH a video for a few minutes and make their decision based off of someone else’s gameplay- like you mentioned not even playing for more than a couple hours. I’m hoping and praying that this game will continue to grain POSITIVE traction and get the rep it deserves, the game just came out after all. No game will be perfect on launch but at least this company listens to its community (cough cough riot taking FOUR years to start fixing the toxicity in their community) thanks for speaking out on the topic! It was very much needed.

[@lukeswanson8150]

75%, the hate is coming from CS and Valorant veterans. They don't want to learn a new game that could compete with their baby. There is however some issues with the game. Pros: Style, Gunplay, movement, tech, balanced abilities. 1.) The game is lacking ambience and focus on sound design. I feel alone sometimes even when im in a discord call with two others. For example, you can understand you are playing Dust II in CS2 just be the noise. They have at least now added an "Ace" sound trigger which helps at least at the end of the round. 2.) Maps. This is subjective, but I just don't vibe with the design of 'metal box here', 'higher metal box here' method. I like more grounded textures that are closure to reality than this. On top of this, each map does not vary enough in vibe and design for them to be memorable. 3.) Character design. I was shocked about how ugly the characters looked, but once I saw there was customization I was hyped. The basic customization it offers however does not allow enough to counter it.

[@Vatsuptenzz]

As soon as specter divide came out, our bro started cooking!

[@TheRyuShogun]

Staycation is homelander in this video

[@zacgraham6706]

Man I couldnt agree with you more. This game is solid. Everyone giving it hate are too stuck in their own "favourite" game to give it a decent try. Not to mention you didn't even touch on how nice the gunplay feels. Not just with ADS but in general. It is smooth. End of added rant

[@techpug1108]

I'd say that the skins for Spectre are a fair bit better than Val skins, sure they might not have a finisher effect (what happens to the corpse), but you don't have to spend a fortune to get those finishers with an additional currency.

[@edpaul3515]

I really hope the game survives, it's fun and new but then again, I had the same feeling when The Finals came out. I just hope Shroud, the content creators and the devs could continue to hype up the game. They honestly should fast track this into the competetive scene so it attracts more fans and players.

[@nbynum45]

People fr just have to get over the fact that it’s not going to play like valorant or any other current game you’re playing. Yes, you will have to play it for a little bit to get a grasp of the mechanics and to get better.

[@attacklifeuk]

Im from CSGO and im really enjoying the game. I also feel the same way about the finals both games are a breath of fresh air in a stagnant FPS scene.

[@kidkobra7376]

I agree 100% I had so many games die on me in the last few years. Really hope spectre is gonna make it.

[@Ninjablack97]

Man I agree with you, I'm tired of the comparisons. I love this game and I want to see them succeed!

[@wonwon1781]

One thing I think is going on is other games/devs/employees start the trash talk to get you to have a bad opinion of a game. Now I do not think this is all the hate but it definitely happens. BUTTT most the hate come from the first game that everyone plays in spectre divide. It is a lot to take in, so why jump into another tac shooter when you already scratch that itch in a simpler game you've already played. This game is for people that don't wanna stand and shoot, have a little more complexity in the game (WITHOUT ROCKETS as an ultimate), and might just wanna fresh take on a fps. It is NOT going to get the love from everyone that already has there favorite tac shooter. CS:GO players hate Val for the abilities and the animations/textures , now the Val players are doing the exact same same to Spectre. I hope it grows enough to stay around because I too highly enjoy this game. Keep posting videos of it!!! 👽

[@abhishekak9619]

if my channel falls of its everyone else who doesnt have taste. its like going to a gym and hearing from the inside that the customers are stupid, making the community great again with your definitely not coping insights. if specter divide fails, gamers are the problem. its like the Indian gaming community in a lot of ways. they blame their audience for not supporting them when they play games that arent free fire and other popular games, its because they arent fun to watch playing games they arent good at making commentary with. you can cope. or you can figure out that they you are coping.

[@nicoest]

Gamers trying to be an oppressed group. I don't know how else will videogames make money. I blame Fortnite for this new wave of constant new content requirements for new videogames.

[@eduardotopete]

"Forknight is more better" Of course the gamer is the problem...

[@Morbus-hq5gv]

this guy is glazing this game so hard

[@rohitkumbhar9374]

Ping system is trash for east asia in this game getting 200+ ping

[@izzulhaziq4898]

In SEA, same aswell. Frequent disconnects.

[@everadept]

Spectre divide is fun. I am not sure how many casuals are gonna be into this game tho. Some probably but casuals aren't really gonna jump from a game they know the basics of like val or csgo to another tac shooter they are gonna be mediocre at.

[@DarylJawn]

I HAVENT EVEN WATCH THE VIDEO BUT AGREED! We keep getting games thats r better than the ones we complain about. ride this "dead on release" train bs then go back to the game we hate like why???????????????

[@Jam19922]

Ive been really enjoying the game, even gave tons of feedback to help improve the gameplay. The one thing that peeves me are skin bundles costing as much as a full game when its just 15% part of the game, just make it make sense?!? Especially for 6/10 skins. And from a business stand point $50 would be appropriate bc it become more accessible, Especially since a lot of people who get f2p games generally dont have the money to drop 60+ at the very least.

[@bafti]

I have like 20 hours in spectre divide now and Im coming from 1,2k hours CSGO and 1k hours valorant My muscle memory has actually problems not spraying or just actually abusing the run and gun system. The gunplay feels nice, sometimes a bit off but that's in every tac shooter I feel like. For me personally the only complaint is that if you are holding long-range angles and you can't even see what gun your opponent is holding and then you get insta killed by the AWP/OP equivalent (sorry don't know the name right now) I wish the stance of somebody holding the sniper could be a little bit more obvious so that I don't assume I can win those fights

[@rodrigos7070]

I have 2k hours on Val and I'm really loving spectre atm. Remember haters are always the loudest.

[@fANG19XX]

who is gonna tell him about the 1000s of lineups of every smokes, flashes and molos in the cs

[@timwendt3370]

In generall I agree with the things you have said. I really like Spectre, but I also know it has still some problems to fix. And I have also played Valorant a lot(around 2k hours), but nno to my point why are you comparing the prime bundle, a decent old bundle, to all the common and uncommon new trash bundles. The prime bundle doesent deserve that:)

[@Vortexx-to5ir]

Bro just said Prime bundle was $120 and looks worse than the images he showed :/

[@Vortexx-to5ir]

Prime wouldve been max $80 and the others you showed have NO EFFECTS. They do nothing as skins.

[@tmorsplanet7945]

@@Vortexx-to5ir The 70 dollar bundle has vfx, reload, finisher animations wdym no effects?

[@dionwilliams7655]

I really enjoyed the game's mechanics and found it to be quite engaging, but I have to say, the pricing on skins is a bit of a letdown. To put it in perspective, Valorant’s Prime bundle, priced at $70, comes with unique reload animations, firing VFX, and a finisher, which adds great value. In contrast, the first bundle in Spectre Divide is priced at $90 and offers reload animations similar to Valorant's Prime bundle but lacks a finisher. Given these factors, even the discounted price of $70 doesn’t seem justified for this bundle.

[@XxlumiNosityxX]

Bro this game feels different, looks different… Feels fresh… Like what else do these people want 😭😭

[@gamer-allday7982]

the game looks fun i hope it come to console

[@gokrezy]

Truly. I actually love the game, but my duo is always raging and hating :(

[@snakemgs24]

It's not 70 bucks bundle why people are unsatisfied. I personally am someone who has spent thousands of dollars on weapon skins across various games . At one point my csgo inventory was about 5k usd . The problem here is the game itself isn't worth spending any money on and hear me out why This game simply doesn't have the gun mechanics of either cs/pubg or even Valorant level neither does it have advanced movement like cod . 16 years back cod4 promod became the 2nd biggest pc esports game for the fps genre after cs 1.6 . Go check out some videos how insane it was . Even after 1.5 decades later this spectre feels like light years behind that game . Its sad how a community made mod was so ahead of its time and even with so much technology people simply cannot even recreate it . Strafe jumping ,pre nading line ups ,combat while leaning entry fragging and the list goes on

[@nag_xo]

My friends game fails gamers are the problem. Before blaming others make a good game.

[@Mosleso]

I could make a video and say "If Spectre Divide succeeds, gamers are the problem", do you not realize how problematic that is? Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. You cant claim that its "gamers" fault because you happen to enjoy the game and they don't? The hell? The game already lost 15k of its playerbase after a week or so. It is CLEAR that this game was never going to break the market because of how unoriginal it is. You can't hate an entire community for not wanting to play your favorite game, and you most certainly cannot hate on people providing fair criticism.

[@parkereidson4925]

Sock full of bars of soap as a weapon

[@nunyunnini]

Don't be bothered by haters, Valorant started the same way, all games start the same way.

[@ruthwachuka4195]

Stay love the videos keep doing what you doing ❤❤

[@dilla_90]

I have played CS since 2004, tons of valorant and now I'm on this game and I enjoy it a lot. Who cares how much the skins are they are cosmetic. Buy it or don't. Very comparable to val prices. I hope this game gets more clout

[@lionstarwolf1535]

Valorant is like super ability based which makes it a bit slow paced compared to spectre, honestly the ONLY thing I miss from valorant is omens playstile