Blowing The Dust Off of This FORGOTTEN V12 PROJECT! -Taking the next steps to Fire Up!

[@ArleneCollier-i2d]

It's like building a house around a piece of furniture you found on the curb, only for auto guys. Love it ❤

[@Sergeantgrunt]

Tony, I am a 3X combat Veteran (Army) and I am disabled because of one of my tours in Iraq. I took NO OFFENSE to seeing what appeared to be a flag draped over an engine. I served my country with honor and have been medically retired so, if I don't see the issues with what you had in the shop, and I'm as American as fuck and proud of it, you shouldn't worry about what others are saying. If I see you or anyone disrespecting the flag or country, I'll say something. You're good Bro!

[@AaronSnyder-t6w]

If it was draped over a foreign motor, I'd understand the outrage, but it was over a hemi and not touching the ground. What's the problem? Thank you for your service, btw 🫡

[@bud215]

Thank you for your service.

[@danieljones685]

Thank you for your service

[@circle7motorsports]

people that sacrifice for other peoples freedoms usually like to see said people enjoy them and don't sweat the small stuff, thank you for your service bro.

[@boots740]

I've seen bikinis made out of American flag and board shorts same thing.Things have changed a little bit.

[@jimmymcjimjim5610]

This channel works hard and deserves success!!

[@StayTunedTA]

Thanks! (sent from a workbench in the shop on a Wed night!)

[@ayitsyaboi]

I'm American as fuck and I have American flags hanging in my workshop, above my bench at work, from my front porch and one in my window for some privacy. If you're not a government institution I don't understand why you'd be so offended by not following US flag code. Chances are your flag does not even meet the code in the first place especially since most of them are made overseas anyway. Take a deep breath folks.

[@christopherwhitley9923]

As a Veteran, I agree. I seen it in the last video and just kept watching. Its not like it was on the ground and being mangled. It was covering an AMERICAN engine. lol...

[@mblake0420]

Third best place for a flag imo

[@w00f72]

Seriously. Chill folks.

[@tsmartin]

Nobody is getting bug-eyed and hyperventilating that I'm seeing. It's about having basic respect for the symbols of our country. The U.S. flag isn't just for Government institutions ... it's for all of us. Even those that may not know how to display it properly. The meaning of our symbols has been lost and, in some cases, vilified by the same people that claim to be patriotic Americans. Having just buried my brother that served in Viet Nam ... seeing that flag being folded and presented to his daughter meant a hell of a lot.

[@caseymac2287]

It hits different when you've witnessed 18-20 year olds seriously maimed and killed defending it. I'm not throwing shade, but don't downplay something as serious as honoring the flag and what it represents. You're free to do whatever you want with the flag, but its very serious to some us.

[@carmstrong782]

Wednesday Stay Tuned?! Hell Yeah!

[@gageneisius8034]

I was thinking the same thing… I’m off Fridays so I did a double take when I was working and the notification popped up😂

[@kylestephenson3004]

Hell yeah

[@benjaminbuffin9812]

Yay, the V12 Asstang!

[@mikebennett6263]

The perfect name 🤘

[@jorgejiminez-rk1uu]

Im glad someone else is with me on the name lol. Been pushing it since it began (even though he probably can't call it that cause his kids, it'll always be as-tang to me 😂

[@Rebar77_real]

Once it melts tires it'll be the Blastang, until it blows the rear end out and be the Asstang again.

[@Harry_Gersack]

If you're going to use Asstang call it the Fordston Asstang

[@disophisis]

Midweek video for the win. Way to be Tony and crew.

[@StayTunedTA]

Thanks!

[@Spendishy]

When tony said he stayed up to watch grown men have a pillow fight was he talking about Dr Tyson and Dr Paul. Ya know since they script fighters lol

[@schafer240]

Wish i never watched it, what an embarrassment.

[@Harry_Gersack]

I could tell it was going to be boring when I saw Mike at the weigh in. He wasn't roided up at all

[@josephmatuszak3855]

The Astang Marstang. It's like a british butler that powerlifts for a Florida man in a double wide.

[@StayTunedTA]

HAHAHA, that is pretty specific!

[@MattDickey530]

This is a great name.

[@robertwest3093]

Now all he needs to do is give us a VGG style description of what the interior smells like 😂

[@bgee461]

It's the car guy equivalent of finding a piece of furniture on the curb, then building a house around it. Love it ❤️

[@Avetho]

Lol it sounds like something I'd do if I had enough money, and it would be the best house ever. Also yay I found the original comment, I have no idea how a bot account made 22 hours ago got 7 times more likes than you just by copypasta, its probably the bobs

[@peterrasmussen68]

My Favorite car channel! I can relate to real life budgets and mods. I hate these $100k-500k cars that no normal person could actually build. Thanks for all you do Tony.

[@ShadowBend]

I can't even finish installing an intercooler for my SC Mustang and these guys are over here making James Bond's Foxbody. Awesome video as usual.

[@xxBlazinBobxx]

First fire-up should be epic! Can't wait!

[@StayTunedTA]

Same! Just wanted to get this thing moving forward!

[@Beardest_Fishing]

This is 1 of 2 KZbin builds I'm pumped for. This V12 Astin Martin Mustang and CJRC V10 Lamborghini 69 Camaro drag and drive. Can't wait to see both finished.

[@Harry_Gersack]

What?!😂 Imma have to go back and check that out, haven't been the channel since worldcup

[@Nikko780]

There are off the shelf lightweight flywheel for the V12 that fit a fairly standard Sachs motorsport pressure plate with whatever flavor of 240mm clutch disc you want.

[@ThomasEllis]

Best Damn Car Show on the Internet kicking butt. Super excited for this build.

[@600wheel]

Been a long time since I bin this stoked about a KZbin build. LETS GOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[@Thedmcke3]

BMW ran 2 ECUs on the M70 V12s as well. Most old ecus would never be able to handle that many I/Os

[@Harry_Gersack]

Most new ECUs can't either 😂 Most ECUs can run engines with more than 8 cylinders, but only with wasted spark Edit: I think Audi (and Lambo) also runs two ECUs on the V10

[@dw8301]

With the recent news we need you guys more than ever. Love your videos love that your on the east coast.

[@Harry_Gersack]

🤝🏼

[@dwarf365]

So happy to see this thing back under way. I saw it and several others on a "I gotta sell some cars" thumbnail and I got worried. I wanted to see and hear one of these Jag/Aston v12 motors unleashed from factory control. Thank you Tony and team. I'm hoping the guys make a harness layout so that engine could have it's own stand alone harness since you guys did all of the lay out work. I'm willing to bet it makes 450 at the wheels and sings like a banshee. Again, thank you, so excited!

[@Millertyl]

Additional Veteran chiming in...I felt no disrespect, but appreciate you bringing it up, because most are blind to what we're talking about. I'll be continuing to watch every episode and I respect you more for even bringing it up!

[@RightFootTherapy]

The redcoat fox is coming along nicely ! Love custom one off but doable projects like this .

[@chestercallahan8856]

Love all the Stay Tuned projects but this one is truly unique!

[@cudak888]

Some of the old V12 Jaguar XJS'es ran two separate Marelli ignition systems. They tend to go up in flames when one bank's distributor and rotor fails, but the computer continues to run the injectors - have heard that they either cause the cats to glow red hot or that the fuel rail gets torched. One of those cases where distributorless EFI with a single computer is a big plus!

[@darkocopak2457]

They are basically two Mondeo v6 engines joined together

[@JonC.86]

Yesss, an update on the V12 'Stang! Love this project. G'Day from Australia Tony & team!

[@NeverLetOff]

I got the notification and thought YT was fffffing with me! Wednesday upload and the V12 Fox!!!! Let's go!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@benganey3924]

Hey if you guys ever read these, the two of everything sensor wise is a common trick for odd fire engines, engines with non equal spark intervals like most v10s. Would have two ECUs, one for each bank running like 2 straight 6s. This would make sense due to the duratec 60°V

[@CTemple82]

This project would be a perfect candidate for the new Roadster Shop bolt in Spec chassis underneath it!

[@StayTunedTA]

That kit is sick! I saw that display from the SEMA photos, very cool.

[@danmyers9372]

Guessing that chassis probably costs several times what Tony has in the car total.

[@CTemple82]

@@danmyers9372 your not wrong, it’s a buy once cry once product! For what this chassis is designed to do for the Foxbody platform and all the problems it solves, its a no-brainer if they plan on making the car brake and handle, making it something other than just a cool sounding swapped burnout car. You’ll come pretty close to spending the same amount piecing everything separately anyways. Hell with an RS chassis under the car and that engine combination, those two things alone could make this a standout build for SEMA 2025 amongst all the other Foxbodies that will be there next year on that chassis.

[@RyanFannon-fy1yf]

Mid week upload. I’ll be dipped. Hell yeah boys been waiting for this build. . Keep rocking fellas 🤘

[@StayTunedTA]

Yeah, the project's back, baby! Pizza Squadddd!

[@RyanFannon-fy1yf]

@For life bud.

[@sadubone]

I remember long ago watching a mechanic on YT say these V12's were exactly that just 2 Ford inline sixes mated to one crank.

[@markwaltrip8960]

I was a body man in the 80s work for a Rolls-Royce dealer one of them Aston Martin came in with rear-mounted turbos man was that thing fast whoever did the job on that car was really talented

[@ChrisRoss-l5r]

I remember there were people running the Toyota 1GZFE (V12) that had two ecu's but were able to use one stand alone in their motor swaps. I just want to throw that out there in case you guys want a little more insight on running V12 motors 😅, the Toyota communities' on FB are super informative and helpful.

[@bobqzzi]

This is a very cool project. I'd forget about the knock sensor- they are almost impossible to get right on a chassis dyno especially with such an unusual engine for which there is 0 data. You're running it N/A so you'd have to do something really dumb to hurt it anyway.

[@jordangochnour7356]

Thank you Lord!!! I can’t wait to see this thing rip!

[@anthonymarcello1265]

Nice to see someone actually care about the flag code. 👍

[@Flwandered]

Go with individual throttle bodies. That would be absolutely incredible. Absolutely love the complete different angle on a build from this one. Keep it up man, it’s great.!

[@StayTunedTA]

Let's get it running first! I bet we could find a couple of BMW setups and make it work though. Let me think about it!

[@bobroberts2371]

Double intakes. I'd be putting a say 3/8 tube / hose between the banks to equalize balance at idle. This could be done with the PCV or feed to the power brake booster.

[@StayTunedTA]

That is not a bad idea. There will be no booster but a balance tube could help and we can run one MAP.

[@Weretarantula5]

Hell yes boys, can't wait to see this update! Thanks for the Wednesday upload :D

[@StayTunedTA]

Yessir! Thanks for being on the Squad!

[@kalebclipp9325]

@@StayTunedTAi suggest getting a 12 to one collector

[@kalebclipp9325]

@@StayTunedTAjust to make it sound a little more insane

[@nrmerritt]

Wow, An early treat! Thank you Wrench Gods! 🛠️ 🚗

[@StayTunedTA]

Thanks for watching! Let's get this thing running!

[@informative_walrus]

As a fox owner, you are living my fever dreams on this project. So happy!

[@ScottBryant-wi7gb]

Thanks for the new content guys.

[@dkyproductions]

Looking forward to seeing how the new harness comes out. I recently built a wire harness for the wife’s 91 wrangler yj and it took quite a bit of redos before it was happy.

[@StayTunedTA]

It's a tough racket. I don't love making them but it's a cool thing to accomplish!

[@griptopia]

Stepped headers on a v12 really important to get that song going. I hope this turns out as AWESOME as i know your skill set is more than capable.

[@mordecai0815]

Man, getting up on a crisp thurday morning in Germany and watching Tony in 4k. Hardly gets any better...

[@justinwise6950]

Heck yeah! This thing is sick! BMW V12's also ran 2 ECU's.

[@justinwise6950]

Maybe because of the 2 throttle body issue you mentioned.

[@1gerhd]

You should look at the V10 6.8 for trucks for harness and go to a local ford dealership for a wiring pigtail book

[@mypootrol]

Mid week madness. You're the man.

[@markherrick9465]

I was wondering if you had forgotten about this project. Glad to see it back.

[@g00se31]

Yall just had to play the goosebump exhaust sound lol. You should 100% find an LFA motor... for reasons 😂(best sounding stock setup IMO)

[@button-puncher]

When you get the Mustang coils, double check the boot length. You can swap them from the oid coils to the new ones. I had the 3.0L in my 2006 Mazda6 and I loved that thing. Sounded amazing when you rung it out. (Ford and Mazda had a partnership at the time.) I had MSD 4.6L coils on my 6, just had to swap the boots. There's also a 3-pin version (remote driver) on the SHO that swaps.

[@StayTunedTA]

Good looking out! I am always looking for help with those tiny details.

[@button-puncher]

@@StayTunedTA Glad to help! BTW, on the Sikelone you can get a cast iron front diff housing from a manual S10 ZR2. Search car-part for 1999 S10 pickup front axle assembly with manual transmission or np1 three button transfer case option. Also, MFactory makes a LSD for the front. Not cheap but AWD LSD!

[@twatdidusay304]

Thank you 😁! I've been waiting for you to get back to this build. Can't wait to see it to completion 👍💯. You guys rock.

[@AutoFIy]

Hands down, my favorite stay tuned project car! Please for the love of God straight pipe that beast! Glad to see you guys were still rockin on it behind the scenes 👍

[@alexcorona]

Thank you so much for this video. I’m currently bed ridden with a broken foot and had ran out of stuff to watch 😅 I did finally get to finish the sopranos though.

[@alexcorona]

Also excited if you ever get to do that Lotus project. I always loved them in the gran turismo games. Thank again for all the content!

[@StayTunedTA]

Sorry to hear about your foot thanks for watching! How about that ending to the Sopranos?!

[@johnnysubhuman]

Thanks bro for doing what you do! Keep going man, you have no idea how many people you touch with your work!

[@StayTunedTA]

Man, thanks SO much for that, I really appreciate it! This project resonated with so many people I wanted to get some time on it and get it moving.

[@whodis9979]

One of the best builds on KZbin right now.

[@DragonsFireMetalWorx]

glad to see you guys had a chance to get back to this one...looking forward to hearing this horse make some amazing noises

[@Ison1992]

This is one of my top 2 projects on the internet I’m glad to see it getting worked on

[@clearpepsi7347]

Please share, what’s number 2!?

[@StayTunedTA]

Thanks! And yes, what is number 2?!

[@AnDrEw122100]

What’s the other one ?

[@Ison1992]

@@StayTunedTAMike Martin’s @HEMIGADE charger swapped jeep renegade

[@Dutchmandrifts]

Here for number 2

[@frestkd]

I'm surprised the V12 didn't go into the Mark 8, but a fox bodied vehicle is cool though.

[@Ellington_Industrial_Arts]

Never seen anyone layout a mock-up harness like that before. But it makes sense... I like it!

[@SihtboxXJ]

Astons of that era were Ford parts bin specials. I got to ride in an 04 or 05 Vantage a while back. I worked on Volvos at the time and thought it was hilarious a $100k+ car used the nav screen out of a S40/V50/C70 and door latches out of a C70. The window switches were straight out of a Ford Focus/Mazda 3/and aforementioned Volvos. The most expensive cars Ford was involved with at the time put together with parts from the cheapest cars Ford sold.

[@waynerohde1036]

Lambos and such have cheaper car parts on them too

[@1morejohnson]

You are more helpful than you realize! This video helps bring my v12 dreams back to reality…….that it is super super hard, and time consuming

[@Bimmer2047]

BMW 850 was basically 2 m20 inline 6s with a shared crank and had 2 ecu’s as well!

[@JR-yr8xm]

I think the Holley ECU can also handle two throttle bodies, that's all I know. I saw it done recently on the ONDGAS channel. He did a 71 Camaro with dual throttle bodies.

[@hangtightauto]

Can't handle 12 cylinders though.

[@JR-yr8xm]

@hangtightauto oh ok. Good to know. Thank you.

[@bigbill709]

The ole 12 banger mustang is back by popular demand.😊

[@matswallsten1628]

Great project! It’s going to be great to follow. This channel is growing into one of my favourite channels 💪

[@Harry_Gersack]

Man you can't imagine how I've been waiting on the next installment of the Aston Mustang 👏

[@bobbycuesroadhouse2204]

So glad to see the Aston-Stang back on the build list!

[@robert23497]

7.21 Thanks Tony for being super excited about this. Everyone on KZbin has started saying I'm super excited for this. It just doesn't sound right. When I was younger (now 46) NOBODY said they were excited FOR something. I'm no grammar teacher but......

[@WesleyKiser]

In that era, it was very common for V-12's to be ran as two separate engines because of a combination of available parts from "more common" applications, as well as the processing power per unit time to manage fuel and spark events.

[@SightsNjunk]

Watching this while driving through PA for work. I'll be in Philly for a week.

[@KtfoMustang]

One of my favourite projects. So stoked to see it again!

[@tymatt89]

So cool to see this motor going into a swap. Watching you guys motivates me to work on my project!!!

[@StayTunedTA]

Get out there and build something! Then blow it up and do it again!

[@T1Bor]

The v12..yess... took a sick day from work and there's a new Stay Tuned video ... we might just keep the SHOP

[@StayTunedTA]

YES! Thanks for being on the Squad!! You deserve the day off.

[@teddyjones8027]

Man i have been soo friggin excited about this build. HELLZZ YYYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAA LETS GOOO

[@toddclark332]

really cool to see it go thanks boy's for the updates and show have a great Thursday ok later 💪🏼 🏁

[@kerrylewis2581]

The Austang Martin is an insane project. I can't wait to see Tony ripping it around.

[@mickeyward1878]

BADASS EPISODE!!!! That wiring layout is incredible, super rad

[@bradw1691]

If the throttle bodies are too close to the strut towers, get a hold of some DB9 inlet manifolds (or DBS ones that are painted white) because the throttle bodies are positioned nearer the timing chain areas of the rocker covers instead of halfway along & they flow more air🤙 Also, replace all of the coils & plugs while you can. When one starts to fail, others won’t be far behind…

[@JustLetTheBadTimesRoll]

This car is going to be sick I'm so glad you're back on it and I can't wait to see how it turns out

[@Americaslostcars]

These extra weekly videos are killer! So excited

[@lylehebb7781]

Great little video, I like the format. Feel free to do this again. Thanks

[@vincekartes7145]

Wicked build you guys and thanks for an update! I’m all for a terminator IRS! ✌️

[@Sixsicdix]

Heck yeah I knew after the get rid of cars video that the masses would join and ask this build to be back on the table 🎉 ppl have spoken

[@layzboy2545]

The names Bondo, Jimmy Bondo. 🤘🤘🤘

[@StayTunedTA]

HAHA ok maybe!

[@kentfield85]

Thank you Tony for this infusion of content in the middle of the work week. What band does your infamous music clips? Nice punk band.

[@zapsurf1343]

You guys have the best Playlist on the tube!

[@alfamaize]

FWIW, the V12 is 100% designed and developed in the US by Ford Advanced Powertrain. The engine manufacturing was farmed out to Cosworth, who also did the vehicle calibration (tune). But there are a TON of parts from the 3.0l Duratec. And it's so close that if you manage to get a calibration from a 3.0l for the spark map, it would almost right on to the one for the engine. Also, what's going to hamper your peak power is the bottom end breathing- the cross flow is hampered by the crank throws. The later V12 was almost identical and picked up 50hp by just redoing the bottom end air flow. BTW, there are two crank sensors as the engine was controlled as two separate I6s. The only communication between the banks was the idle state, so that both sides would idle at the same time. But you don't need to worry about that with one controller doing the whole thing. (edit- you figured that out. Just use the passenger side sensors.) The drivers side crank sensor is referenced to cyl 11 (IIRC) where as the pass side crank sensor is referenced to cyl 1.

[@HillbillySailor]

LOVE this build!!! Being a sleeper type of person, I only have one request for this badass machine: make it look as stock as possible, to include interior! No need to make it obnoxious. The engine will do that all by itself!

[@StayTunedTA]

It will definitely look pretty stock, maybe some Cobra seats but nothing too wild.

[@steelwheels327]

So cool and unique!! wrench on my man!! If you don't love this project ...you are not a car guy!!!

[@joemueller-zt9hn]

in the early 00's ford made a prototype new edge mustang with a performance version on the Triton v10. to accomplish the engine management, they wired it (basically) as 2 separate inline 5 cylinder engines, i.e. 2 ECU's controlling each bank of the engine. I wonder if that's what Aston's angle was with the 2 crank sensors (being a proponent of Ford at the time). I'm writing this at 11:10 so maybe I'm jumping the gun and you came to this conclusion, but my $0.02 would he to treat it like 2 I6 engines that share and oil pan.

[@StayTunedTA]

HAHAH, well seems like you got it figured out before we did.

[@chrisecoff6155]

I just thought of a cool follow-up to this build. Lay your hands on a Jensen Interceptor to play with next! Unlike the V12 Fox, the actual acquisition of a JI would be the hardest bit, instead of trying to build a stout motor from scarce pieces. That's because all JI's came from the builder equipped with either a 383, 426, or 440 Mopar mill!! I've heard rumors of a few 360's escaping into the public as well, but don't quote me on it. {For the record, Jensen was an English firm that specialized in mating exotic body styles exclusively with down-n-dirty Pentastar powerplants. A variation on the Sunbeam Tiger / 427 AC Cobra premise - and virtually every motor Jensen got from Chryco was totally free of emission controls, as well as boasting compression ratios that ranged from a minimum of 10:1 to 13:1.} Fun stuff, indeed!!!😎

[@layzboy2545]

HellYeah Boys!!! How do you make a Wednesday better? Have a Stay Tuned video drops outta nowhere! Let’s Go “12 PACK” 🤘🤘🤣🤣🔥🔥🔥

[@fixins]

I was about to comment "I bet they just ran 2 Ford inline 6 ECUs and just split the accelerator pedal," but you already figured that out. Rock on!

[@garylankford9306]

I sure appreciate the mid-week Stay Tuned attitude enhancement! It gets pretty boring waiting a whole week. Thanks guys!

[@brandongreene3213]

Fire me up! So glad you guys are able to make progress on this deal again. Looking forward to some gnarly exhaust notes!

[@StayTunedTA]

Thanks! Can't wait to hear it myself.

[@rs5001988]

That car is going to be epic all the best with it all guys UK viewer enjoying the show as usual ✌️

[@Lucians_legacy]

You guys have way more patience than I do. Trying to get all of the wiring for this car figured out would drive me up a wall lol

[@pob_car]

THANK YOU!!!

[@ashleyfoster4928]

Awesome to see this back on the show