From the part of the show HBO didn't upload: "Luckily all our environmental laws are older than 18 years, so Rep. Gaetz shouldn't have much interest in them."
@zeta059026 күн бұрын
@raymondkassay3610 Lets deregulate America till people cannot afford milk🎉🎉. MAGA 2024🎉🎉🎉
@RHCole26 күн бұрын
@@raymondkassay3610And this is why education is vital to a free society. Regulation built modern day America, buddy
@ian562ADF52E26 күн бұрын
@raymondkassay3610 can't wait for our country to be ran by r*pists, pdf files, and abusers. Protect women and children btw.
@MissBlueEyeliner26 күн бұрын
God that’s grim and hilarious in one go.
@CRneu26 күн бұрын
@@raymondkassay3610 real question: when pill-mill Trump deports millions of americans who harvest our food and do service jobs, who is going to fill those positions? Americans dont want to work on dairies or farms, or do service jobs. unemployment is below 4% anyway. So, who is going to pick/grow our food?
@masterloard26 күн бұрын
For the Singaporean Citizen scene, all I can think of is King of the Hill "So, Mr. Kahn, are you Chinese or Japanese?" "I lived in California for the past 20 years. I'm originally from Laos." ".... huh?" "Laos. We are Laotian." "The ocean? What ocean?" "We are Laotian - from Laos, stupid! It's a land locked country in south east Asia. It's between Vietnam and Thailand, okay? Population 4.7 million" "... soooo, are you Chinese or Japanese?"
@blueice3527026 күн бұрын
🤣🤣For real ! As if they are deaf and only want their intrusive questions on written record as if they are a terrier going after a rat down a tunnel. They don't solve anything. Don't prove anything other than they are total A$$ Hools with no purpose other than to spend taxpayers money investigating anything. I'm surprised they don't ask how money toilet paper each defendant uses per poo.
@holeinmysoul126 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@igotanM1626 күн бұрын
"Yep" "Yep" "Yep" Mmmm-hmmm"
@Zeroninja-j5c26 күн бұрын
I tell you what 😂
@djdrack468126 күн бұрын
yet he somehow understands boomhower
@VictoriaFire326 күн бұрын
Food for thought. Rather than just ban 1 app, why not just crack down on what kind of data companies can collect when people use their platform? Helps the American public and solves their concerns. But then again the people currently in office and those just recently elected will never do anything to actually help the American public, let alone take money away from big corporations.
@RHCole26 күн бұрын
But how can we make money off of that? /s
@derekcoaker657926 күн бұрын
That would fuck up our non spying U.S. Businesses. /s in case. The Hypocrisy is... expected.
@krombopulos_michael26 күн бұрын
Because regardless of privacy regulations, there is no amount of data we should feel comfortable handing directly over to the government, especially the the authoritarian one of a hostile nation.
@EthanMitch26 күн бұрын
@@krombopulos_michaelYour nation is more hostile to you than China
@victoriasmith857026 күн бұрын
Well that’s just downright sensible, and we can’t have that!
@HobbiesGamesChillin21 күн бұрын
Seeing an American senator basically shout “YOU ARE A CHINESE” to a Singaporean while being corrected constantly sums up America
@nourzohar353813 күн бұрын
But there are Singaporean Chinese, not so?
@HobbiesGamesChillin13 күн бұрын
@ yes but after the tenth time someone says “I’m not Chinese I’m from Singapore” and he kept yelling about China I feel it’s just racism or ignorance at that point
@ernesthill4017Күн бұрын
Most Americans are shockingly ignorant to history and geography, even our own 😔
@farrahupson26 күн бұрын
"We've been behind on this issue for an embarrassingly long time" could apply to LOTS of things in the U.S. at this point.
@spyfire24226 күн бұрын
Healthcare comes to mind immediately.
@moniqueengleman87326 күн бұрын
😂😂😂excellent point 👉
@zoe-lou252226 күн бұрын
Not only the U.S. has these problems.
@qv43v26 күн бұрын
Wah wah so we don't need to do anything about it do we
@Bitfire3133726 күн бұрын
@@spyfire242Exactly my first thought as a European.
@pallao350026 күн бұрын
Only a good guy with a metaphorical gun can stop a bad guy with a metaphorical gun.
@jasonsedor567626 күн бұрын
well done, well done
@williamwhitney739526 күн бұрын
That metaphorical gun better not make me afraid for my families or my life. Cause I don't use fake guns.
@LunaryxDiarmait26 күн бұрын
@@williamwhitney7395It's not the fake guns fault, though. It didn't know better.
@BertockLeg26 күн бұрын
@@williamwhitney7395damn... i hope horror movies stear clear
@pallao350026 күн бұрын
@@catxtrallways How about the location of their children?
@leonhartthuesten969526 күн бұрын
As a non-American I find it interesting, how personal data suddenly becomes an issue, once the new trending app is non-american. But what do I know... Hi Google! :)
@owlbusdumbledork996626 күн бұрын
Our government is so good at using the media to direct public conversation. We're all too distracted and uneducated, and politicians never actually say what they mean, and yet everyone thinks they do, while simultaneously claiming that all the politicians they don't like are lying about everything. It's baffling.
@ghostlytavern12926 күн бұрын
Big brother doesn’t like it when any one else spies on their citizens
@TheZombieButler26 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@coltonblake1326 күн бұрын
For a reason. I'm going to guess it's how they use the data. The data that they collect is literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok.
@MrWowh26 күн бұрын
Of course in the US its a big deal. It could be weaponized. Other countries should be worried about US companies as well.
@jessicarenner445120 күн бұрын
This was a great breakdown. This show does a great job of making difficult and nuanced topics more accessible. I was waiting for him to talk about how many of the senators especially the few that created this bill have sooooo many stock shares in meta! Also how the current top investors of the app are American businesses, and how the people who want to buy it are part of the ADL out of Israel! There’s a lot to question around data privacy as he explained very well, but this issue goes incredibly deep into the pockets of US senators!
@RadioNickWNHS26 күн бұрын
Some poor intern had to look up sonic feet and that’s now on his search history forever.
@bodenking26 күн бұрын
They probably have a dedicated computer for the weird searches they have to make. Just don’t look at the ads on webpages, they lost an intern that way
@thezachman126 күн бұрын
Forget his search history, every time they close their eyes for the rest of their lives, there's a chance Sonic's stinky feet will be there
@terencehamilton421926 күн бұрын
the intern probably likes sonic feet, dont kink shame.
@Thorndelwyn26 күн бұрын
Those could have come from his own collection. We'd need to ask those big tech to know....
@Arcella198126 күн бұрын
I would imagine just putting the browser in incognito mode
@laalaa99stl26 күн бұрын
Guy on Fox News calling TikTok junk food for our brains is chef's kiss irony.
@raghuvarv26 күн бұрын
TikTok is junk food for our brains. Fox News is a cigarette with an asbestos filter mesh.
@0Clewi026 күн бұрын
And lets now hear how they praise that Trump stopped the ban
@cyro42026 күн бұрын
All mainstream media is garbage … fox is the same as msnbc
@AP-iu2ty26 күн бұрын
Don't you guys still believe Russia collusion conspiracies?
@DoubLL26 күн бұрын
I mean... he's right. Ironically so, but still right 😅
@LilLou9726 күн бұрын
23:13 yeah I remember when the PATRIOT Act was just to “Keep Americans safe from terrorists” and then we ended up finding out it was just for the government to SPY on us without a warrant, and the backlash of that being public will always make me laugh. Congress members were screaming safety, safety, safety but most of America was having non of it
@Raelven26 күн бұрын
The real purpose... Keep the IRS safe from missing out on American money. 🤣
@leadpaintchips946126 күн бұрын
What do you mean most of America was having none of it? It's still, in practical terms, in effect. It lasted 19 years before not being renewed, but all the infrastructure is still there.
@drgskates26 күн бұрын
Yeah, I'm sick of this, "You kids don't know what's good for you. Let us make all the decisions for you." Like they're [Congress, i.e. bought officials by lobbyists] our fucking parents, and we're [millennials, gen z, and younger] fucking 3 years old. You [Congress] educated us, and now you're regretting *how much* you educated us.
@bradleylignoski688726 күн бұрын
The difference is we live in a democracy with durable mechanisms for correcting overreach.
@RubelliteFae26 күн бұрын
"we ended up finding out" Some of us even read the bill before it was passed and tried to sound the alarm, but were ignored. And, continued to sound the alarm for years about several of that administrations problems, but were ignored. And, continued to sound the alarm when these sorts of activities continued under the Hope & Change guy from the opposite party, and weren't just ignored, but lambasted for going against team "Good Guy." Until one day, some of us realize that all of our youthful exuberance went to waste-on an electorate too ignorant to take political action in it's own interests-and just shout bitter retrospective posts into the void of Internet comments.
@TrapGod_JackofAllTrades18 күн бұрын
Love you work John. Probably the most nuanced take on the TikTok ban I've seen so far.
@tannersmith737826 күн бұрын
Good thing I don't have Tik-Tok, and only consume short form media on every other app
@Onarca26 күн бұрын
It's not just about the short form content, it's the rate that it spreads misinformation and disinformation. It puts most other apps to shame in that regard.
@AutumnsGunnar26 күн бұрын
@@Onarcalol no it doesn’t. Twitter is the king of misinformation and Facebook definitely takes second place. TikTok is more strict about everything across the board when it comes to social media companies. You can’t even say certain words like gun without being flagged
@illuminant777XtX26 күн бұрын
Short form video is absolute cancer. Its time waste and highly addicting. Most people can never stop doing it for a long time. And it completely fucks up children. Short form video infinity scroll should be banned or at least heavily regulated. It brain rots a BILLION people who could do something usefull otherwise like god damn learn something read or anything.
@dizont26 күн бұрын
@@illuminant777XtX i agree, short video format has to be regulated or smthn. Its hijacking human brain
@chriscoalman107526 күн бұрын
@@Onarca Oh yes its a problem. Fluid intelligence in humanity is on a decline (most data shows towards social media/media usage) first time ever its observated and at the same time AI is on the rise. We are in for some awakening.
@buskE4625 күн бұрын
Thank you for wrapping it up properly in the end. We just need data privacy laws that apply to all companies.
@williamgraham82225 күн бұрын
Bot
@jaredsmith187125 күн бұрын
I'm not sure you nor the writers nor the general public understand the "whole of society" threat that China uniquely presents.
@jupiterkansas25 күн бұрын
He did not hit this point hard enough. We need privacy protections from all businesses.
@-WildCat25 күн бұрын
I agree with John's conclusion about the need for data privacy laws, but his overall analysis leaves out some aspects that he wouldn't be able to talk about without getting into trouble with his business daddy. Second Thought made a better analysis of the TikTok ban in their video 'The Real Reason The US Wants To Ban TikTok'.
@scoodeles25 күн бұрын
@@williamgraham822how is this a bot account I agree with him we need data privacy in all apps and in just all company's In general 😅
@Thiefnuker26 күн бұрын
We have publicly owned radio stations. We have publicly owned television broadcasting. Why do we not have publicly owned internet service providers and social media spaces?
@nothankyou797926 күн бұрын
Because of the insane fearmongering against socialism & communism. Anything „communal“ is bad!! Only hyperindividualism and capitalism good.
@freedomishavingachoice302026 күн бұрын
Technically, PBS is on KZbin.
@mc7626 күн бұрын
You might have noticed that the GOP has tried to defund A and B on a regular basis. There is no way the incoming administration is going for C.
@user-zu5do6ri6r26 күн бұрын
@Thiefnuker The government shouldn't be funding the first 2 things. This is a classic 2 wrongs don't make a right.
@ObviusRetard26 күн бұрын
Be careful what you wish for when twitter becomes state media under Trump hehe
@InteractiveRootsProd19 күн бұрын
Jon Oliver always nailing investigative journalism - one of the best social media explanations regarding risks and data.
@Ursicus-td8zt26 күн бұрын
If my taxpayer-funded math teacher can demand I show my work, then I demand Congress shows theirs.
@rightsdontcomewithpermits707326 күн бұрын
And this is why we have politicians like we have, Because we have nothing better to offer. Everyone is crap. 😂
@user-zu5do6ri6r26 күн бұрын
@Ursicus-td8zt You have it backwards. We owe society. Society doesn't owe us.
@janetsolbakken333226 күн бұрын
@@user-zu5do6ri6r, we may owe society, but we don’t have to let corrupt congress hide information from us to protect one of their own. They owe us integrity in their leadership.
@jokerz793626 күн бұрын
Eat your veggies and in about 25 years you can look it up when it's declassified.
@coltonblake1326 күн бұрын
You mean classified? For a reason. I'm going to guess it's how they use the data. The data that they collect is literally everything, including keystrokes for everything on every app, including permission to allow those permissions to your devices linked to your profile. So any government employee has allowed them to access the computers and everything on them if they've ever used Tic-Tok on a government device or your government credentials on a private device with Tic-Tok.
@Herr_Vorragender26 күн бұрын
The point that Google and Meta are doing the exact same thing only on a far larger scale, can not be stressed enough!
@johnconner469526 күн бұрын
They are American companies so it’s irrelevant.
@bazzfromthebackground369626 күн бұрын
Byte Dance brought this exact thing up during the hearing, and Congress' actual reaponse was "They're not Chinese, they don't count."
@douga87426 күн бұрын
I guess ...but you can sue/put in jail the owners of a US company for misuse (however actually real or unreal 🤷🏻💲💲💲) CIA doesn't have an office in the Google building...the Chinese intelligence services have a literal office at tiktok.i believe China sets rules on content/algorithms for media companies...I'm not even sure FB is allowed in China...gotta be easier to argue/fight a company like Google as a us citizen than the Chinese government as a Chinese citizen.
@JeremyHoffman26 күн бұрын
Would you say that the American companies have the same relationship with the American government as Chinese companies have with the Chinese government?
@gogudelagaze158526 күн бұрын
Are they going to use that data in an active conflict against you, like China is preparing to?
@Living_Life24226 күн бұрын
Forgot to mention that the entire reason why Trump wanted to ban TikTok is because his feelings were hurt after a bunch of young people used it to organize a mass-booking of one of his rallies that made it look like thousands of people were going only to have an empty stadium.
@Linkman891226 күн бұрын
How did that work? Were the tickets paid, because if they were that seems counterproductive.
@BugsyBugYT26 күн бұрын
i find that very funny tbh
@overlycriticaldirectorsclu559026 күн бұрын
Or the other big reason that the channel Second Thought talked about. That the American government wanted to ban TikTok because of all of the Palestinian support. Really disappointing that John didn’t mention that at all
@stanstrum26 күн бұрын
@@Linkman8912 No, it was to have the organizers believe far more people were going to be in attendance than there was.
As a government contactor, the short answer is "yes, TikTok is bad" . the longer answer "most social media is bad, but with AI in the mix, TikTok is a much more short term threat".
@shroomyk26 күн бұрын
As much as I dislike tiktok and short-form brainrot, a better solution would be to just crack down on companies collecting and selling data. But we all know that Congress never chooses the better solution.
@macrumpton26 күн бұрын
Not when the worse solution is funding their campaigns they don't.
@charybdis811326 күн бұрын
Data collection is important for developing AI
@helenapayne341426 күн бұрын
@@charybdis8113even worse
@flyphone107226 күн бұрын
@@charybdis8113 good, ban data harvesting anyway, fuck 'em
@kyleliegel26 күн бұрын
@@charybdis8113 oh no... anyway!
@125steini26 күн бұрын
"Metaphorical gun violence will not stand!" 🤣
@Gaite435426 күн бұрын
Yup, its true. China is dangerous.
@matthewsanchez795325 күн бұрын
Metaphorical thoughts and prayers.
@lydiaboll287224 күн бұрын
@@matthewsanchez7953 😂 plz
@USCTrojan20132 күн бұрын
@@matthewsanchez7953 ❤❤❤❤ THIS!!!!
@GamerSapss26 күн бұрын
As a Norwegian, whenever this topic have shown up, I've had the same concerns regarding the US based companies. Why should I trust Tiktok less than Google or Meta? Yeah, China is a very concerning country and the US is an ally... doesn't mean I would want the US to have it either
@pamgallina26 күн бұрын
Bingo! You got it. This is a global conflict over which psychopathic cabal is going to own you and your children, forever
@Karategata25 күн бұрын
As an American I agree, the American companies take just as much data. They should be just as scrutinized. Honestly more so since America has terrible corporate greed issues.
@Wolf.8125 күн бұрын
Norway does have data privacy protection laws though. So does the rest of the EU. And American companies are compliant (or at the least, European nations force compliance here).
@chippychin25 күн бұрын
Nobody in their right mind would trust any US corporation, especially if their CEOs show up on the 'Forbes Real Time Billionaire's List'. The richer they are, the more they want from you, and their greed-sickness compels them to do ever increasingly bad things to keep themselves on that list. Norway should lock it's doors and turn out the lights when a US corporation comes knocking. My grandparent's should have never left.
@rc_matic25 күн бұрын
In China, all companies must comply with their National Intelligence efforts. ~50% of the US is on Tiktok. The app requests permission for access to video/photos, geolocation, microphone, contacts info, camera access. With facial recognition, voice recognition, geolocation presumably at the fingertips of a “rival” country, concern is understandable. In the US, there are concerns about backdoors and government proxies. However, there is a STRONG culture of capitalism and gov skepticism. So in short, US uses data for $$$, China presumably uses it for state sponsored activities.
@Col_Fragg23 күн бұрын
Here’s an idea: Make it illegal for any app to track you or collect any user data whatsoever.
@lookswine20 күн бұрын
My hiking app needs to track my GPS when I leave it on.
@superradiojay20 күн бұрын
Does color blocks and fruit nased games need it ?@lookswine
@MsTironce16 күн бұрын
That was the point of this episode. Duh!
@grilledflatbread469213 күн бұрын
Facebook dislikes this
@greghodges211626 күн бұрын
Maybe we need robust public protection laws on all forms of social media, not just TikTok
@iamjustkiwi26 күн бұрын
Yeah, I feel like having the largest social media platform being owned by a trump sycophant who now works with him is PROBABLY an issue
@mike1703226 күн бұрын
China doesn’t care what laws we pass.
@catserver857726 күн бұрын
At this point, it's kind of like closing the barn door after all the cows have run away.
@loon199426 күн бұрын
@catserver8577 Gen Z and possibly even a good chunk of gen alpha are cooked. However, why not shut the door for the baby calves who are still popping up in the barn
@eragonawesome26 күн бұрын
@@catserver8577 I'd say more like water on a fire that's already burned down the house, but there's still the chance to mitigate FURTHER harm that could be done
@SomeThingElseYT26 күн бұрын
I feel not enough people talk about this new wave of TikTok like formats on all platforms actually being incredibly bad for creators as much as its users. As easy as this new format is to artificially grow user traffic to trick investors into believing a platform is more popular than it actually is (and to collect as much user data as possible), its as easy for these same platforms to pay their creators significantly less due to the way it collects and distributes its payouts mixed with the way the algorithm is set up to promote theft and spam bots. Creating a creatorless perpetual money pit based on fake user traffic/ data. In some cases like KZbin shorts, it not only causes the main income that is long form content to dwindle as punishment for not utilizing shorts, it also adds an extra layer of work (focusing on youtube shorts and long form) while again, paying its creators less. I know what I’m saying is a little off topic but i thought id mention this to the conversation from the perspective of a creator on these platforms.
@logansleepingbaer26 күн бұрын
Glad you said this. Our economy can stretch to fit a lot of interests, but this is an unregulated bubble lurking, that doesn't have to pop if managed better.
@lucidattf26 күн бұрын
I think it’s a valuable subject too, even if a little off of the main subject of this segment. hope you’re doing well SomeThingElse :)
@letsRegulateSociopaths26 күн бұрын
Tik Tok was created in China. China has more fraud than the rest of the world combined.
@mariyamwaniki26 күн бұрын
You have 4 million subscribers. You’re huge.
@icedteajello26 күн бұрын
i wish more creators fought back against it instead of complying and changing what they do. good to see you again and i’m glad youre getting the side of creators out there
@mattbehling741626 күн бұрын
So basically government saying how dare you track our citizens that’s our job
@EthanMitch26 күн бұрын
No it's the job of their donor social media companies
@cc1k43526 күн бұрын
Yeah, well, one problem at a time. The Chinese taking our money leaves us all unable to deal with our own crooked billionaire class. 😂
@paulgrieger818226 күн бұрын
Well said.
@CentristDad15526 күн бұрын
So you trust the government that kills millions of its own citizens at a time and has gulags? If they do that to their own citizens what are they going to do to you?
@IVWOR26 күн бұрын
You id...t
@horamulticolora633020 күн бұрын
Hey, I'm from Romania. For those of you who don't know what is currently happening here, on Sunday we had the first round of presidential elections. Because of tiktok, a guy who 70% of the country had never heard of before is now in the 2nd election round. He is an extremely dangerous individual- he is pro russian, anti UE, anti NATO and has stated, on multiple occasions, how he admires the legionaries(a fascist romanian party from the 40s). Not to mention that he's homophobic, anti abortion and doesn't believe in medicine(he claims covid isn't real because he hasn't seen the virus and also doesn't believe in cancer). We are extremely afraid of what the next 2 weeks will bring us... never underestimate the power of tiktok. He used bot farms to launch his campaign, by spamming thousands of comment sections with messages like "I will vote for Călin Georgescu!" and managed to gain the votes of many, many uninformed people...
@alexanotfromamazon20 күн бұрын
Exactly. I'm sorry to hear that this is also happening to you. Political leadership all over the world are seeming really scary.
@markbarrie537319 күн бұрын
Aweful
@lapetiteallemande119 күн бұрын
I just wanted to comment on Romania as well. After Brexit and Trump's reelection, arguing that 'we have no proof' that a social media platform controlled by China is dangerous to Western democracies is not a justification for tolerating the platform. Instead, it should serve as a warning sign that we urgently need to figure out how to prevent foreign interference that leads people to vote against their own interests!
@snoopstheboss99419 күн бұрын
@@lapetiteallemande1 X is controlled by Musk and Putin. It is a very American company.
@richardarthurnorton19 күн бұрын
If there was no TikTok he would just use all the other social media to spread propaganda
@DavidNelsonATX26 күн бұрын
I’m in the “I’m too old” camp. I fall somewhere between TikTok and hour plus podcasts. Your show falls perfectly in my sweet spot.
@ioutra612126 күн бұрын
this comment exactly
@donaldtrumpsmom457526 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂this show fits perfectly in the trash that where the dem party is too. Trump 2024.
@katiekane524726 күн бұрын
@@donaldtrumpsmom4575Linda McMahon and Dr Oz 🤣 The second least satisfying "I told you so" in recent history 😢
@josephinethornton382326 күн бұрын
Tiktok, much like desperate trolls that were obviously starved of their mother's attention, is something that just holds no interest for me. I once downloaded it and tried to make videos but I simply can't give enough of an eff to be bothered with it and, as all things on the Internet work, unless you're willing to put in the time and make it flashy (or simply use a filter to fake the flashy and add music people like) it's not ever going to get engagement. But that's ✨exactly✨ my sweet spot. As of about 12 years old I got WAY TOO ATTENTION, and at 50 I've finally aged out of the vast amount of attention from a huge mass of horny dudes and angry women that want the attention of the horny men. I'm finally just a person again, like I was for the first 11 years of my life. It's GLORIOUS. So why would I go through the steps required to purposefully seek an audience by gaming an algorithm to pay attention to me? For what possible purpose? If people aren't willing to read what I have to write, it's obvious they have no interest. I'm not going to put on makeup and a showy dress for T&A appeal to get attention when I want to speak up about something. Trying to jam everything I need to say into a short TikTok video is like parts of John Oliver's show- he's speaking too fast about the really IMPORTANT parts and knows he'll lose the audience if he doesn't make another joke despite the gravity of what he's speaking about. On a random note, I just noticed that Trump looks vaguely like my dad, in the kind of dead eyed stare where they paused his tiktok video as John kept speaking. It's the exact look of a man who is mentally and emotionally trapped in a place a plethora of decades ago and REALLY doesn't like the world he's trapped in now but it's that or death so he just keeps existing with that bizarre expression and is angry he's not relevant. Thankfully my dad died so he won't be insulted by that as he hated Trump for being "a philandering, soul selling spineless schmuck that stands for absolutely nothing if he can make a buck off it; all he cares about is money and those people are the people that historically have always flushed our country straight down the toilet," and, as with most things, my father was indeed correct. That dead eyed stare of a man making a video telling people he's there to save a platform he himself tried to get rid of, on the platform telling people to vote for him because he'll save it. But he won't. He doesn't understand it and only uses it to ogle women younger than his own daughter. . . And, of course, to make money selling cheap Chinese garbage merch on a Chinese app with virtue signaling American flags everywhere, all of the items ignoring the actual flag code itself. What a lifeless husk of a person that desperately wants it to be the 1980's again.
@SharienGaming26 күн бұрын
ive been too old for all that nonsense back since i was in my teens XD had one look at facebook and friendster and all the other nonsense back then and said "nope not touching that"
@patriciamillin-j3s26 күн бұрын
I live in Germany. Here we have data protection laws and when you enter a website, you are more often than not asked to confirm cookies or set preferences. Some sites are simply three or four buttons, others have one button each to reject all cookies and object to “legitimate interest”, on others again, you actually have to go through lists of vendors and reject/object each one individually. I personally don’t see why a US or Asian company (or wherever), that I will never have contact with, should have my data and store it on their servers for a year, in some cases even 5 or 10 years, so I go through those lists of up to 30-50 companies every time and switch each one off. It’s totally annoying, but it also opens your eyes as to how many companies that you don’t even know actually collect your data.
@denisemarychild499426 күн бұрын
Has all your hard work been successful in slowing down the advertising? I do it in a hit and miss approach. Maybe I should be more diligent…and kudos to you 🎉
@TheSuperappelflap26 күн бұрын
Its actually illegal what those companies are doing, under GDPR every website needs to have a 1 click opt out for all data collection that is not vital to the operation of the website. So every time you have to go through a list and object to all of them, that website is breaking the law, and you can file a complaint with your country's national data protection/privacy organisation. Theyre pretty backlogged right now so there will probably be a delay of a year or two before they get to it, but those companies will get fined.
@Cherrysmith280926 күн бұрын
We have that in America too.
@kevinsmets26 күн бұрын
Install the ghostery extension, enable auto-deny cookies option and enjoy the web a little bit more again
@user_hat26 күн бұрын
@@Cherrysmith2809oh we do?
@anderji25 күн бұрын
As a non-US citizen, if the US is so worried about a foreign company doing what they do... Maybe we should also be worried about US-based tech giants being a national security threat
@RochelleHasTooManyHobbies25 күн бұрын
Yeah, you definitely should be. Those companies would ruin your life for $5.
@Mind4orLease25 күн бұрын
As an American, I would say that's probably a good thing to be worried about.
@OkItsJustSean25 күн бұрын
That just doesn't make sense. When the government says "national security threat" what they really mean is, in a time of war or conflict this thing poses a threat to the U.S. Government and/or U.S. Citizens. China is an adversary that the U.S. could potential have a conflict with in the next couple of decades and tik tok could easily be to compromise our country
@atranimecs25 күн бұрын
Trump socially engineered the 2016 election using Cambridge Analytica, META's former analytics handler...so yeah we have an example of how any tech company is a liability
@thesharpshooterking996325 күн бұрын
as a U.S. citizen in tech and security yes you should be more worried about what facebook will do with your data or Alphabet (parent company of google) or amazon will do than tiktok
@lesofages20 күн бұрын
Love how the iron giant is one of John Oliver's "hear me outs" 😂
@johnchessant301226 күн бұрын
13:07 The main point: If you're not okay with TikTok collecting your data, then you also shouldn't be okay with Google and Meta collecting your data. A ban makes no sense. Pass a privacy law that stops companies, American and foreign, from collecting so much data on consumers in the first place.
@cliffmode200025 күн бұрын
But we all know Facebook is just a front for the US government to spy on you. Google and apple too.
@UpstateBeard25 күн бұрын
I already don't have a Facebook so I guess it's time for protonmail (already a good idea) and using AskJeeves/Brave? Doesn't sound that bad to me. You're absolutely right.
@OregonDroneScapes25 күн бұрын
How about you go and look at all of the permissions that TikTok has compared to other apps it is mind-boggling. I could obviously tell that you have no idea what you’re talking about and have done no research whatsoever. Also, you physically cannot get away from Google. In fact, they own KZbin and almost every major platform also every single website uses their index. You try to sound like your tech savvy, but it’s not really working that well.
@SGGCREATIVES25 күн бұрын
That is antisemitic
@Phil_52925 күн бұрын
Why let China compete in our market in the first place? They certainly don't allow any of our apps over there.
@zaxzumu460526 күн бұрын
Tom Cotton sounds less like the name of a Senator and more like one of the alternate working titles for Jim Crow
@jakepistolero26 күн бұрын
ah, the inspiration for the nuremberg laws
@neminem23326 күн бұрын
😭😭
@fatusopp473926 күн бұрын
his name sounds like he should be commentating professional dodgeball on espn 8: the ocho
@Pbav8tor26 күн бұрын
Sounds like a cartoon Fruit of the Loom ad campaign.
@aidancallahan627126 күн бұрын
@@fatusopp4739 Was gonna comment the same thing hahahahah
@NimrodtheWHM24 күн бұрын
I hate to say it, but as a writer a lot of my Indie writer groups have sung praises for TikTok selling books. People who had ZERO sales for months advertising on Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, suddenly were selling hundreds to thousands of books per month. I've not been one to trust it much either, but I can vouch for it's great for small businesses.
@Anne_one22 күн бұрын
you’re right it’s great for small business and has changed so many lives. The amount of money that app makes must be ridiculous.
@NIN010121 күн бұрын
I don’t believe you. People use TikTok don’t read books.
@superradiojay20 күн бұрын
You think that is because tiktok is so good... or... bc fb and Instagram are that corrupt?
@lerevelucide23 күн бұрын
thank you so much for talking out the line of questioning to the end, it was spot on ✨😂
@stevenmarsh715526 күн бұрын
If they were treating it as a direct threat, it MIGHT hold water, but the tact of "its too dangerously powerful, you must sell it to us" is laughably, stupidly transparent.
@SynthiaVan26 күн бұрын
If you know anything about China and how it views America, you would see how obviously it is a destabilization weapon right out of their playbook. Banning propaganda and misinformation vehicles that are owned by foreign adversaries should not be controversial. The reason it is controversial is because the propaganda is working.
@jgunn0326 күн бұрын
Yes. Considering all the U.S. apps collect and store the same info TT is allegedly storing.
@Atrail_Mckinley478626 күн бұрын
That doesn't change the facts, though. Sure, you can use whataboutism, but a Tik Tok ban is justified if they don't sell.
@nmarbletoe821026 күн бұрын
@@Atrail_Mckinley4786 Call it whataboutism, or call it justice, either way
@reniorjd26 күн бұрын
To be fair the bill allows any company to buy it not just an American on. personally, I would find it funny if an Indian company bought it.
@MonkeyJedi9926 күн бұрын
Wow. Tom Cotton's questioning of Shou Chew went REALLY deep into McCarthy "Red Scare" territory. Maybe Tom Cotton is a time traveler from the 1950's?
@DavidPutmanWhoa26 күн бұрын
thats what it reminded me of too
@taylorkirkland352926 күн бұрын
The real question is, why this guy isn't an American citizen, and his wife and kids are.
@xnflg307426 күн бұрын
@@taylorkirkland3529 are people from other countries not allowed to get married to americans now? what are you talking about?
@gaiusoctavius610726 күн бұрын
@@taylorkirkland3529so his evil plan was to infiltrate the U.S. by… not having citizenship rights despite wanting his children to have them, in order to spy for a country he has never lived in and which is geopolitically and ideologically opposed to the actual country he was born in. I’m not saying tiktok is great, and that guy probably sucks (he’s a tech executive), but there’s just nothing to suggest he had any malicious intent related to any foreign country.
@MagnumCarta25 күн бұрын
@@taylorkirkland3529 Because he lives in Singapore and he can come to the US on business visas as he normally does. What a silly question. Its 100% legal to marry outside your country for many countries. Look into IMBRA or the International Marriage Brokerage Regulations Act. The US is a a part of it. Even China is.
@Commander.Starfleet26 күн бұрын
The singaporean being grilled by that congressman should've retorted with his own questioning, based on appearance: "how long have you served in the russian FSB? Do you hold a russian passport?"
@donnaflores216626 күн бұрын
And asked if he was here legally
@dominicnzl26 күн бұрын
everyone is guilty until proven otherwise in very simple words a 5 year could understand if he really wanted to
@MarcColten7326 күн бұрын
Talk about a flashback. "Are you now or have you ever been?"
@Hawkenwhacker26 күн бұрын
Fighting back with their own questioning would be counterproductive. Allow the one doing the questioning to expose their own foolishness.
@poeticsilence04726 күн бұрын
@@Hawkenwhacker exactly. Make them look bad and silly. Keep saying the right answers.
@DevilOfRoses13 күн бұрын
Watching members of Congress call TikTok spywear when they need their grand kids to help them set up their Alexa's is hilarious.
@okrajoe26 күн бұрын
Wow, a classic Xena: Warrior Princess reference! Talk about throwback to the 90s!
@sanseijedi25 күн бұрын
I made a screensaver for my sons’ computer as they were both fans. Good memory for them. And me.
@Tyler.804625 күн бұрын
22:45 - My favorite tenant of the American Justice System is "No one is above the law, except if you're a Republican whose been participating Child Sex Trafficking, the disruption of the peaceful transfer of power, or your net worth ends with more than 6 zeros. In which case, go straight to Boardwalk and collect $200 if you pass GO."
@randyross563023 күн бұрын
Oh, Yeah... That is Right, it's just One Person in the Whole Nation that Gets Special Treatment... If you are a Local Picking On an Out of Stater you are Essentially Above the Law! You have No Clue How the Nation Really Works Do You? Same Happens for many Democrats... How about the Whole Epstein List... I'd say the Clintons... But than I'd just be another Victim of them, in their Long List!
@whatgoesaroundcomesaround92022 күн бұрын
That's TENET, not TENANT, of American law.
@Tyler.804622 күн бұрын
@whatgoesaroundcomesaround920 lol, I'm glad that's the best correction you have. You knew what I meant and that's all that matters ☺️
@patrickhaley131226 күн бұрын
I don't really think it's more nuanced than most people think. Congress is banning tiktok for doing the exact same things all other social media companies do. The only difference is who owns the company, or more realistically because American social media companies have been lobbying for over a decade. And since it's not blanket protection for all American's data from all social media companies all tiktok has to do is buy the data from american companies for pennies. It's a bad law written by people who don't understand the technology they're legislating.
@M3ganwillslay26 күн бұрын
They want to ban it for only one reason . 🧃 Have no control over it .
@sanmer8526 күн бұрын
They're doing it cuz Meta paid them
@M3ganwillslay26 күн бұрын
@sanmer85 the entire Jewish lobby . Not just meta
@_jpg26 күн бұрын
@@M3ganwillslayIs the Jewish lobby currently in the room with us?
@benwalters480826 күн бұрын
@@_jpgaipac? Nah they are busy buying the new incoming house members
@princess-from-another-gala152122 күн бұрын
Me, finishing the video and immediately opening tiktok: "It's what John would want"
@MikeH8926 күн бұрын
That clip made Senator Tom Cotton sound like a bargain basement Senator Joe McCarthy 😂😂😂
@iambicpentakill97121 күн бұрын
It would be really funny if someone "accidentally" called him Senator McCarthy during questioning
@AmuletRebel25 күн бұрын
The fact that John brought up Xena Warrior Princess shows that he knows me better than he ever intended too, cuz yes, Xena was my bisexual awakening.
@nikitafedenchenko139624 күн бұрын
I mean duh
@shelleys187224 күн бұрын
Haha exactly
@MakoKitten24 күн бұрын
Xena and Gabrielle were a lot of peoples bi awakenings.
@rjspiteri575823 күн бұрын
I didn't understand why I liked Ioulas so much for decades...
@007kingifrit23 күн бұрын
funny cuz when i saw that line I was like "ugh consume more product and get excited for next product"
@TheMadface8026 күн бұрын
Politicians: Foreign civilian surveillance? We can't have that! We must keep our civilian surveillance domestic! 😡
@buildinganewworld268226 күн бұрын
To get through this entire story without ever saying "Israel/Palestine" is REDICULOUS. The bill sat in limbo for 3 years until we started using it to organize for Palestine. Multiple congresspeople including Democrat Krishnamoorthi and Republican Sen. Josh Hawley specifically cited this as the reason they wanted to ban tiktok. "China" is just cover for cracking down on free speech.
@TorIverWilhelmsen23 күн бұрын
"We have surveillance corporate state at home."
@007kingifrit23 күн бұрын
we should trust our own government is less of a threat than china
@DelianaEscobari19 күн бұрын
19:42 "the chef of Ratatouille trying to pivot to Bitcoin" will have me giggling all day
@kamalindsey26 күн бұрын
It's crazy that the U.S is so behind on data privacy law, considering PERSONAL PRIVACY IS LITERALLY GUARANTEED IN THE CONSTITUTION. Yes, only against government and not private interest, but it speaks to a moral value this country was founded upon. A value that the government clearly has never cared about. Maybe we should consider these rights more broadly rather than just in binary ways like that.
@hadara6926 күн бұрын
I hope your valuable comment gets 2K likes. EXACTLY!!
@buildinganewworld268226 күн бұрын
To get through this entire story without ever saying "Israel/Palestine" is REDICULOUS. The bill sat in limbo for 3 years until we started using it to organize for Palestine. Multiple congresspeople including Democrat Krishnamoorthi and Republican Sen. Josh Hawley specifically cited this as the reason they wanted to ban tiktok. "China" is just cover for cracking down on free speech.
@ArloMathis25 күн бұрын
Personal privacy is an *implied* right in the Constitution, one you arrive at that *must* exist based on the other named rights. But it's ultimately not black and white, and is in real danger of being curtailed by the Supreme Court.
@SF_Bud25 күн бұрын
Unfortunately it's not stated, but implied. And maybe you missed it but Roe v. Wade got overturned and the original ruling was based on the implied right to privacy. So the current SCOTUS isn't even holding that implied right in high regard.
@EvanRockwell124 күн бұрын
Why can't the government be as concerned about school shootings as they are about TikTok?
@Mortibella23 күн бұрын
Because there are no big corporate interests to shell out $$$ to stop school shootings.
@julianhernandez573223 күн бұрын
How would you solve school shootings? If you have a great idea, start a lobbying campaign or search up some lobbyist groups. You’ll quickly learn the questions to your answers once you have conversations with our congressmens’ and congresswomens’ interns.
@phantomy894123 күн бұрын
Simple, ban guns and/or have better gun control laws like in Europe
@MorbidEel22 күн бұрын
They are actually equally concerned. They are just more concerned about providing aid to Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan and other places.
@abramjessiah22 күн бұрын
Because China is at war with us.
@itsausername26 күн бұрын
He has a good point. The jar hasn't been recognized for it's continued practicality and accomplishments.
@janrees488726 күн бұрын
I'm thinking I need to get myself a jar.
@stevenleong563422 күн бұрын
I really like the "U-Turn"🤣
@goatness26 күн бұрын
The “sell it to an American company” part of the demand tells me that it is entirely about money.
@cathywethington591326 күн бұрын
Exactly
@neildolan370026 күн бұрын
On the other hand, the refusal to do so tells me it's *not* about money on ByteDance's end.
@harveyataddlety407326 күн бұрын
America will always try their best to keep certain information from getting to the public.
@goatness26 күн бұрын
I was talking about the reason for the demand to sell, which was not initiated by ByteDance. But also, if the dictate is that they must sell to an American company, that’s a limitation on potential bidders which could artificially keep the price low. Heck, they’d probably force a sale of $1 to some temporary holding company, which then resells to the highest domestic bidder for an enormous profit that doesn’t leave this country. If ByteDance is interested in money, they’d want to keep the ongoing revenue instead of being forced into selling.
@宋庆礼26 күн бұрын
@@neildolan3700 Really? If you were force to sell your thriving company under a short notice, you will never get even half of asset worth. Not to mention the company could worth double in a year. Imagine you force Musk to sell his Tesla share 2020.
@quotationmarksedits26 күн бұрын
I feel called out by the “Xena: Warrior Princess” reference. That deserved a bigger laugh.
@WayOfAges24 күн бұрын
I remember seeing Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall in a history clip looking on in disbelief as a Hollywood screenwriter was hammered with the same questions during the McCarthy era.
@hbombphysics7311 күн бұрын
"classified evidence" sounds like "weapons of mass destruction"
@Exnem26 күн бұрын
I like how nobody has noticed the description called all the viewers bisexual yet.
@gristen26 күн бұрын
they're right.. i am 😂
@conspicuous.816326 күн бұрын
Hmm… 🤔
@katherinec115326 күн бұрын
Absolutely am. Too bad it took 20 years instead of a few rounds of tiktoks but hey, we're here, I guess.
@TheSuperappelflap26 күн бұрын
Didnt notice it. You probably did because youre gay.
@zxggwrt26 күн бұрын
Ha! I just saw that thanks
@comfortsibanyoni952325 күн бұрын
The last time American said there were weapons of mass destruction in a country i won't mention millions of people died for no reason and the country has never recovered
@airbrushken533925 күн бұрын
How about the over 300,000 american solders who died from health issues after they got home, directly related to their exposure to dioxin (Agent Orange). Sprayed since 1962 starting with JFK through Ford. All those fellow presidents knew in advance that the defoliant had between 3-5 times the level of the toxic Dioxin. They also NEVER told medical personal, military doctors or medical students signs of exposure, treatment if there are any! "Thank you for your service"??? Really??? Lest we forget!
@DaughterofDiogenes23 күн бұрын
This should be starred. Right on.
@mikevondebag26 күн бұрын
We should break up FB and IG into seperate companies again as well.
@TheSuperappelflap26 күн бұрын
and whatsapp and everything else. sadly that wont happen because your market watchdogs are toothless and your entire government is corrupt to the bone. still, banning chinese malware is a good move.
@hadara6926 күн бұрын
Agreed! Look what Elon just did with Twitter. He totally put his thumb on the scale for Trump and even sent out FAKE texts pretending to be from the Kamala campaign. NO consequences! They have WAAAAAAY too much power!
@007kingifrit23 күн бұрын
that's not a bad idea, but tiktok is evil and does need to go.
@hadara6922 күн бұрын
@007kingifrit Prove it, like JO just did that you're full of it ... Don't just make claims using "evil" without thinking it through. Face it, YOU don't even believe you! 😉
@007kingifrit22 күн бұрын
@@hadara69 tiktok is a threat to our national security, owned by a communist entity engaged in genocide and seeking to expand their borders. they are our enemy. grow up child, a comedian is not a source of news.
@Solude2 күн бұрын
That Xena warriors joke felt like a direct hit. 😂😂😂
@dangregory-ys2li26 күн бұрын
Concern trolling over a single app while the real issue is why the hell our phones are allowed to collect and redistribute our data to a whole host of corporations.
@professorhazard25 күн бұрын
[pulls out tiktok episode bingo card, it has "john dances" in the center]
@1337_ry25 күн бұрын
rofl was amazing, love to see it
@wesshiflet221426 күн бұрын
14:44 ok, I know it’s a quote but referring to Falun Gong as just a “banned religious group” is a pretty generous description lmfao
@nmarbletoe821026 күн бұрын
persecuted
@leaflaurel26 күн бұрын
Cult
@MortimerSeptimus26 күн бұрын
they're a cult
@gatosospechosop326 күн бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210they are a cia funded cult who’s sole purpose at this point is to spread as much anti china propaganda as much as possible in the us lol
@caffetiel26 күн бұрын
@@nmarbletoe8210 Suppressed with good reason.
@marcelbeining5 күн бұрын
These side notes on America's own skeletons in the closet... Brilliant and on point as always!😂 Thank you!
@Royce1672725 күн бұрын
"He did it too, and HE'S Chinese!" 🤣 As usual, I appreciate the nuance. Great show!
@anas.687025 күн бұрын
Nearly 40% of Americans get their NEWS from tik tok???!! Okay, that explains the election😂
@fearreavers24 күн бұрын
It's better than Facebook (no. It's really not. They are both horrific)
@baxternutt606320 күн бұрын
Most of those people were either too young to vote or didn't bother. Are you suggesting that TikTok is responsible for millions of Americans voting en masse for Trump?
@vixiefire12 күн бұрын
True it’s not a place for all news, but yes for 1st person accounts for ppl dealing with war, or other non privileged or suffering individuals that usually don’t get a seat at the table to speak their truth.
@emmamurphy73826 күн бұрын
John pointing out how shameless TikTok users are is so funny bc of how true it is. There are no secrets, no guilt, no shame on that app. A truly lawless land 😂
@iamjustkiwi26 күн бұрын
It is so weird seeing this as someone who was in their late teens when Facebook started getting popular. Kids growing up now are in such a public square all the time, I wouldn't have been able to handle the way things are now tbh.
@donnadumare26 күн бұрын
Addiction to time killer😢
@macrumpton26 күн бұрын
I'm not quite sure about that. 99.9% of TT users are afraid of being cringe, which is shame adjacent. The other .1% don't know what cringe is.
@TheSuperappelflap26 күн бұрын
If you see the things people admit to in public, the obvious conclusion is, theyre hiding things that are much worse.
@tylorstreett7824Күн бұрын
DOB, I see you with that Iron Giant bit. Bravo, sir!
@samuxan26 күн бұрын
A summary: tiktok does everything alphabet, microsoft, X or meta do, but the company doesn't share the data with the us government so they don't like it. So instead of doing a European style GDPR they focus on just the app they don't control(or doesn't donate to their campaigns)
@KaifongChang26 күн бұрын
That's the whole point! Americans can only be screwed by American themselves, not by the Chinese. This is indeed a national security issue...
@JustinAzoleGaming-i5l26 күн бұрын
So you would rather have chinese overlords? Europe is also working to ban tiktok BTW. Why do you think china doesnt allow such programs within their borders unless they are owned by china? Here is a hint, they understand the power and influence it would give the United States over their people.
@Foolofatook88926 күн бұрын
American tech companies do not share your data with the government unless they’re subpoenaed. TikTok has also used the app to track the location and harrass a journalist that published information that they didn’t like.
@nkanyezihlatshwayo360126 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t be surprised that in the last four years ByteDance has made significant monetary contributions to keep their business afloat but that security hawks can’t find it in themselves to trust it a priori because that ‘feels an awful lot like bribery’ - which is, of course, a significant security concern.
@purplekey933026 күн бұрын
This is skipping over the fact it's going to a foreign government. Tiktok is owned by a nation that isn't on the best terms with us, of course it gets a special condition. I don't get how this keeps getting missed. It's not that we can't see, it's that China can
@legsnhipsnbawdy26 күн бұрын
The "dances to danger" bit is especially funny because there is a netflix documentary called "dancing for the devil" about a cult of tiktok dancers.
@Metaphoreign26 күн бұрын
I think we all collectively realized the potential risks of having any personal information on computers connected to the internet to begin with, shrugged, and embarked on a technological odyssey together fully knowing it probably doesn't end well.
@AdamYJ26 күн бұрын
There was an element of “I’m nobody, why would they bother with my data?” also.
@robgriffin480126 күн бұрын
How hasn't it ended well? Internet connectivity is one of humanity's greatest achievements. Also the "I'm nobody" argument still stands up remarkably well for all intents and purposes.
@Raelven26 күн бұрын
Holding hands and skipping along 🤣
@ComradeMercy26 күн бұрын
@@robgriffin4801it hasn’t ended badly yet. I love the internet and I think it’s absolutely amazing and has done great things for humanity. But it’s not over. It hasn’t ended, and we don’t know how things might change. For better or for worse
@GeekHour6 күн бұрын
The classified part is that its easy to listen in and the concern is that they can easily turn on the mic of the teenage tiktok user/daughter-son of the head of the State Department or anyone they want to listen in to
@derekGibsoundSG24 күн бұрын
I like John Oliver’s segments because he follows concise analysis with next course of action, all done with a sense of humor.
@laurenhahn10123 күн бұрын
John Oliver got his BA at Christ's College Cambridge. Can you tell??? :)
@007kingifrit23 күн бұрын
if you're coming here for analysis you are not an informed person
@batmaneo22 күн бұрын
this guy is bought, listen to the video it’s full of propaganda I’m almost sure he’s working for the chinese government, maybe some chinese company owns his handlers
@derekGibsoundSG22 күн бұрын
@@007kingifrit people get information from many sources these days. never said this is the only source where I stay informed on this topic...
@007kingifrit22 күн бұрын
@@derekGibsoundSG viewing jon oliver and finding him informative at all is a poor reflection on you. i come here to see what bad people think. nothing more. if your news has a laugh track, it is trying to stop you from thinking.
@lie679026 күн бұрын
Ban all corporations from stealing our info under threat of prison for management, leaders & major shareholders.
@segfault-26 күн бұрын
+1!
@coltonblake1326 күн бұрын
It isn't theft. You agree to their user agreements and terms and conditions
@alexanderbrown425026 күн бұрын
But what about the 1st Amendment?
@franjkav26 күн бұрын
@@coltonblake13dumb argument
@jspres8626 күн бұрын
@@franjkav No it ain't. It's in the agreement. It's buried in 100 pages of legal nonsense but it's there. All they gotta do is show your consent and say "Not our fault you didn't read it."
@brianfernandes10BD26 күн бұрын
You know it's funny when TikTok is getting banned for data broking, while Meta and Google are giggling heartily.
@AutumnsGunnar26 күн бұрын
It’s happening because they lobbied for it
@blueice3527026 күн бұрын
And you TALK about buying something and the next thing you know there are 15 ads on the damn Microsoft EDGE and Facebook for it.
@MrAweeze26 күн бұрын
At least they're American. We don't want to help China hasten our inevitable collapse
@ChrisAlfanoPHL26 күн бұрын
It's getting banned for being owned by a company that has to put the interests of an adversarial foreign government over its own business. If they spin it out or sell it it's not banned
@ChrisAlfanoPHL26 күн бұрын
The fact that there's no public evidence that bytedance has acted on any directions from the Chinese government doesn't mean anything. There's no way we could know without deep espionage and of course we wouldn't want to reveal the intelligence methods we discovered any evidence through The point is that under the current regime the Chinese government has the right and ability to freely manipulate tiktok with no public visibility and that in and of itself is a huge problem. Whether they haven't done it already or we just don't have evidence that can be made public or they haven't done it yet, the fact remains that they can do it whenever they want and it's a huge threat Yes we should have blanket privacy and algorithmic manipulation regulations that apply to all American companies too. Also we shouldn't have major media companies dominating in America that are subject to the control of hostile foreign governments. All bytedance needs to do is sell off or spin out tiktok to a company not under the thumb of the CCP and everyone can keep using it. Why is that off the table for them?
@amandaw213322 күн бұрын
19:35 There IS a Netflix doc about a TikTok cult called "Dancing for the Devil". The leader had been running the cult before TikTok, but moved onto the platform as a way to recruit. It's really heavy stuff. Power to the survivors.
@-DM26 күн бұрын
This was such a comprehensive and entertaining video, thanks John and team!
@buildinganewworld268226 күн бұрын
To get through this entire story without ever saying "Israel/Palestine" is REDICULOUS. The bill sat in limbo for 3 years until we started using it to organize for Palestine. Multiple congresspeople including Democrat Krishnamoorthi and Republican Sen. Josh Hawley specifically cited this as the reason they wanted to ban tiktok. "China" is just cover for cracking down on free speech.
@_TracerBullet23 күн бұрын
One very important point left out: Some members of congress and especially lobbyists despise how activists use TikTok, both to get organized and post videos that expose them.
@avabullock745723 күн бұрын
This is so spot on!
@ZijnShayatanica14 күн бұрын
Oh damn, that makes a lot of sense!!
@bobjones295914 күн бұрын
Didn't Mitt Romney literally let it slip at one point that Tiktok not suppressing criticism of Israel on their platform contributed toward the ban?
@alinajones2910 күн бұрын
This is actually the whole point. The data protection argument has always been disingenuous because American social media companies collect data in the same way and sell it to China, so China ends up with that data anyway. It’s all about controlling the flow of information and there’s been several leaked conversations and documents to back that up.
@Microsizeme10 күн бұрын
I don't think this was excluded so much as it's not relevant. Activists organize on all social media; if anything, TikTok's algorithm makes it marginally more difficult to organize on it due to arbitrary restrictions on language. TikTok just happens to be where young people are these days. Before TikTok, it was Twitter.
@vibangigan533624 күн бұрын
This literally what my next essay is about…..guess who’s getting cited!!
@trumanhopper249314 күн бұрын
This is an opinions show. Cite the sources he uses in the show
@vibangigan533614 күн бұрын
@ actually asked the professor she said just cite the video since the video already has it’s citing.
@21CenturyBreakdownX14 күн бұрын
@@vibangigan5336 education is so cooked if citing a youtube video is valid.
@vibangigan533614 күн бұрын
@@21CenturyBreakdownX how? Is everything here not sourced and peer reviewed when it’s a study. Where do you attend college brother?
@vibangigan533613 күн бұрын
@@21CenturyBreakdownX got answer to that bud?
@sirripsalot42023 күн бұрын
If it wasnt for the deranged china hawkery, this would be an everyday story in corporate america lmaoooo
@RHCole26 күн бұрын
100% fine with a blanket social media ban. If Tiktok is a security threat, then so is Insta, Snap, Facebook, and Twitter.
@krombopulos_michael26 күн бұрын
Not really though because they aren't owned by the governments of hostile nations. They would arguably be a security threat to the regimes of China, Russia, Iran etc. but that's why those governments have banned them
@SC-dm1ct26 күн бұрын
I completely agree, but the TikTok issue is because of its chinese ownership, and the fact that the amount of information the CCP can and has harvested from it is frightening. But yes, down with social media
@supermariozelda26 күн бұрын
Sounds like a free speech violation, no?
@RHCole26 күн бұрын
@@krombopulos_michaelTikTok is owned by a Singaporean
@RHCole26 күн бұрын
@@SC-dm1ctSingapore ain't China, TikTok is not controlled by China
@b164671726 күн бұрын
Cotton doesn't know that Singapore isn't a part of China 😂😢
@Makkyddd24 күн бұрын
Possibly the most embarrassing thing I have seen - as an American. Our overseas friends thought it was hysterical
@grilledflatbread469213 күн бұрын
He knows, the rubes listening don't. It's all for theater.
@franciscomagalhaes745726 күн бұрын
John's impersonation of obnoxious teenaged girls just keeps getting better and better XD
@dreamworksgoal20 күн бұрын
Who else tunes in just to understand all the jabs and inside burns Zazu throws at the audience and feel superior on getting "that reference" here. Period. Thank you, you beautiful bird man😂😂😂😂😂😂
@CCEkeke25 күн бұрын
Its obvious the TikTok ban is not about China or data collecting. If it was, this law would apply to all social media and tech giants.
@violabeaumont375825 күн бұрын
Meanwhile Trump and Company are threatening to leave NATO because some European countries are putting restrictions on Twitter. Talk about hypocrisy at its finest.
@OkItsJustSean24 күн бұрын
You're wrong. It is about data Chinese collection and spying. The U.S. government isn't worried about domestic companies as much because U.S. companies aren't trying to destroy the U.S. They just want to be rich. China is though. U.S. companies want your data for profit, China wants your data to weaken and control the U.S.
@DreamGardener723 күн бұрын
Ahhh critical thinking!
@TheRokstar1323 күн бұрын
@@DreamGardener7right? Isn’t that an anomaly 😂
@oneofus692426 күн бұрын
vine walked so tiktok could run. rest in power
@melphiss26 күн бұрын
“TikTok poses national security risks”, laughing in Russian on X
@Foolofatook88926 күн бұрын
The law as written would apply to X if 20% of the company or more is owned by a foreign country of concern.
@SBrizzy865726 күн бұрын
@@Foolofatook889but it's not and I am sure Trump and Congress would make an exception for it.
@melphiss26 күн бұрын
Any Russian oligarch is somehow related to Putin, which means they are insiders and can threaten Elon’s business, the 20% rule does not guarantee independence of the media
@christmastiger26 күн бұрын
That's the old way, Elon does it himself now. A study came out that the algorithm changed to favor Musk tweets and conservative-leaning tweets around the time he endorsed Trump
@Foolofatook88926 күн бұрын
@@SBrizzy8657 How would Congress make an exception? Congress supports the law as written. That’s why TikTok is in court right now.
@mattslumwormreyes14 күн бұрын
I'm surprised to see John Oliver missing obvious key points on a lot of his recent episodes.
@rockyraccoonhendrix173326 күн бұрын
2:20 “that’s not eseptible”
@richm.385326 күн бұрын
Maybe it should be banned if that’s the person fighting for it
@chillnophone202426 күн бұрын
They can't even speak properly. 😢
@pasarasaki900726 күн бұрын
I'm so glad there irrtated someone else this much, I was scared I was a late-born boomer xD
@scubasandwich364426 күн бұрын
"I love the poorly educated"
@hellbendy26 күн бұрын
Please try not to make fun of people's accents. It doesn't equate to being poorly educated. Linguistic diversity is beautiful and normal. Not trying to ruin anyone's fun, but it is actually an important thing.
@iYoSora26 күн бұрын
i'm glad LWT points out that our own US companies pose the very same threats to our privacy, because that really really... really needs to be addressed.
@TheSuperappelflap26 күн бұрын
Not the same threat. Tiktok hacks American citizens phones for the Chinese government. Google and Facebook hack your phone for the American government. False equivalency. As bad as the US government is. China is much worse.
@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout26 күн бұрын
18:20 "Senator 'I wasn't really an Army Ranger but boy will I tell everyone I was', only one of us has lied to the American people, and it's you."
@LennyPepper26 күн бұрын
Clock it!!!
@catholicinmississippi20 күн бұрын
See what we really need is data protection laws not banning a whole platform - that’s what I told my representatives but they’re more concerned with the politics of the “CCP” over American data.
@ninjanerdstudent693726 күн бұрын
If TikTok gets banned in America, and Americans still want to use it, all they need is a VPN to access it from a different nation.
@otterguyty26 күн бұрын
Fine for casual users, but my 100% of my income is from American Tiktok users
@cyberjunkie2326 күн бұрын
That's not how it works. It is banned in India and you can't access it on VPN coz it's illegal for VPN providers.
@markusayasse9926 күн бұрын
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@consciousness346626 күн бұрын
What if they remove it from the app store?
@TotoLakay26 күн бұрын
@@consciousness3466 Before app stores, we could download a program and install it on the pc or phone. Has that capability secretly removed or do people forget how to do that?
@urkiddingme625426 күн бұрын
I googled "no laying across the railroad tracks," thinking it would be in the urban dictionary. Instead I got an AI answer ""do not lie down or position yourself across the railroad tracks, as this is extremely dangerous due to the potential for a train to come rapidly and cause serious injury or death if you are on the tracks when it arrives 😅 Thanks for that.
@Sheloyigamer26 күн бұрын
I wondered what that phrase meant as well. Thanks for googling it and sharing the AI response 😂
@nanetteouimette270026 күн бұрын
Scary
@MissBlueEyeliner26 күн бұрын
I don’t trust myself to get TikTok… so I’ll just binge shorts on KZbin… at least I’m self aware about my cognitive dissonance.
@nubeivanlama26 күн бұрын
That’s exactly what I do
@wetenschap12326 күн бұрын
And funnily enough, KZbin algorithm still gets it wrong after 14 years. (and that's good)
@christmastiger26 күн бұрын
I can't do the short-form stuff, maybe that's why I'm so opposed to downloading TikTok cause people describe it like it's an addictive drug
@JL0ndon26 күн бұрын
@@christmastigeras a person who has dealt with actual addiction issues, i find it so alarmist and ridiculous to say it’s like a drug. It’s not a good thing for sure and it can be addictive but it’s nothing like a drug that can kill you from withdrawals or OD.
@cascadecontroller26 күн бұрын
Same, the shorts algorithm is pretty bad thou. So I hate myself for binging and the content is not even good.
@neuro_physics684421 күн бұрын
US government can (and does) call up American social media to remove/promote some content that dis/like. They can't do that with the chinese owned TikTok. That is the main reason why USA wants to make sure TikTok is not banned but owned by an American company. It is that simple.
@bobjones295914 күн бұрын
Mitt Romney straight-up mentioned the criticism of Israel on Tiktok when asked why the ban was proposed lol
@Yutani_Crayven26 күн бұрын
Unfortunate that the most harmful aspect of the app was completely ignored and not even tangentially touched on, and that is just how easy it is for incredibly disruptive and destructive misinformation to spread on that platform, and how widespread it is.
@franjkav26 күн бұрын
It also shares great information
@franjkav26 күн бұрын
We haven’t banned the internet or libraries for sharing bad information
@bottomofastairwell26 күн бұрын
Are there dangerous and harmful trends on tiktok, 100% But is out also the only place I can seem to get current and updated info on shit like Palestine and what's happening there? Yeah.
@acetrainer556426 күн бұрын
Because that's not unique to tiktok.
@pallao350026 күн бұрын
@@bottomofastairwell Current, and updated, and potentially terribly false information about stuff like Palestine, that is.
@ACcool98126 күн бұрын
If senators had shares in the company I’m sure they’d feel differently.
@user-dg9pu4pe9d24 күн бұрын
Companies have way too much data about us. We are all pretty much wandering around with a surveillance device.
@angelofdeath27520 күн бұрын
the amount of data floating around is way too much.
@ortansa12 күн бұрын
for the girl that asked "what can tiktok do with my information?" - watch romanian elections, we have a live demonstration for you... and is not good.