Stealing from J Dilla

There are many tutorials on how J DIlla makes his beats i'm throwing my hat in the ring.
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[@Benry675]

One thing that a lot of producers dont talk about is most of the time the sample is what's swinging the beat. The drums are usually not crazy swung its just the sample that is making the beat swing so hard. If you stem out Dilla drums most of them aren't crazy swung. Minus a few execptions

[@JayDAndre]

Yo Fam you are one of the first people ive heard say this! Everyone thinks they have to swing the drums something crazy everytime. Sometimes just by shifting the sample a bit you can reach the same outcome! Or even pitch stretching it to give it a different time feel! Great stuff homie! 💯🙌🏾

[@Benry675]

@@JayDAndre Its all about your ears tho you know. Nothings cookie cutter. Never undereastimated the power of just listeneing. A lot of Dillas patterns i just listen really close and i can usally understand what he's doing. Keyword usally lol

[@JayDAndre]

Facts! That man was an alien 😂​@@Benry675

[@skiskate5]

Bout time someone mentioned this! I'll also add that he often swings the bass to achieve the same effect- like you were saying, not necessarily the drums.

[@Jayromann22]

ay this was interesting asf 😂 I’ve been working w Boldy James recently; and we’re mastering some of the Drug Dilla work, and you was right on. Boldy rapped over Dilla’s last instrumentals, and plans on releasing this in the first quarter of 2024. Much love 🙏

[@JayDAndre]

Bro I heard in a interview he was supposed to be rappin over some Dilla. How's that sounding probably fire! Also appreciate you family I'm a Dilla fan fasho

[@Jayromann22]

@@JayDAndre yeah, we’re linking up on Tuesday with a couple engineers and doing some tweaks and hopefully a final master. shit’s absolutely beautiful so far

[@navarrito96]

Boldy is amazing bro, really excited to hear what comes next

[@DemgamingSkillz]

The reason the drums are like that is because he played them by hand. They weren’t sequenced or programmed and then adjusted with swing or dragged out. They were played in time with his ear and feel. That’s why it’s so hard to replicate. It’s like trying to copy someone finger print or they’re signature.

[@JayDAndre]

This is partly true I actually explained that a but further in the vid! 😌🙌🏾 (sorry i jumped the gun and made a mistake!)

[@JayDAndre]

We could only hope to get close to Dillas mystique

[@dragomirtsekov8077]

thats not true man have u read the book about him

[@JayDAndre]

Yo! so i jumped the gun a bit on the last reply more often than not J Dilla didn't quantize but in some of his later work you could hear it sometimes. so 100% true was definitely an overstatement lol. He didn't often use the swing feature on the MPC but he did have these tools at his disposal though and sure he got some use out of it. @@dragomirtsekov8077

[@dasmowilkins]

no he used quantize. there was a tool in the mpc that allowed yu to nudge notes.

[@margateswede]

If you think about it, the samples he flipped were not on a grid themselves. So using free hand and micro timing on the mpc to make things fit was what helped him develop his drum style. Once you use loop points and freehand you develop your own feel. No two live drummers play the same piece exactly the same. Dilla was a genius producer but it seems like half of his groove was the way he made things fit that felt right to him. That’s part of his personality. You can get close but I should imagine he would think that’s a strange thing to do. You can apply his workflows and studio tricks but its not going to bounce unless it comes from something that makes you feel good, that sounds right to you and makes you laugh out loud or get up out of your chair and move. Be your own favourite drummer.

[@JayDAndre]

Great points homie! Especially with his sample choices, it can be weird doing these emulation type videos trying to get a certain sound of a popular producer. In all honesty my main goal is just to peel back the curtain a bit and show a little bit on ways you might be able to get similar sounds in hopes people try and find their own way ya know! We learn by emulating our favorites and turning that into our own jam ya know! Thanks for engagin!

[@unknownmisstick3874]

Facts bro I thank you so much you dope ash keep up with you journey

[@JayDAndre]

Always and forever homie! Appreciate u for comin through! 🙌🏾

[@rarevibezz6521]

this was actually useful as hell, salute!

[@JayDAndre]

Yessir appreciate u for stoppin by!

[@BuddhaGBahia]

Very dope breakdown. J Dilla forever.

[@JayDAndre]

DILLA FOREVER!

[@samdrumlo]

Love it man. Reverse engineering the greats is always great!

[@JayDAndre]

Yessir think smarter not harder 💯.. thank you!

[@AaronZuniga617]

If you go to view in the piano roll time segments select beats and then drag the drum stem into the piano roll you can see exactly where the drum hits are (bonus tip make sure your time based settings is 96 ppq pulses per quarter note and use that finer grid resolution as a guide)

[@JayDAndre]

Yooo my guy this is a gem! Gotta try that great input homie! 🙌🏾

[@AaronZuniga617]

@@JayDAndrejust saw this love the content and I love the work you put in hopefully it helps you! I subbed

[@JayDAndre]

@@AaronZuniga617 fasho man! I appreciate the sub! 💯

[@jussin2198]

Great video and great sample. Joe Bonner is an underrated pianist

[@JayDAndre]

Thank you! Yeah Joe has endless classic cuts! 🔥

[@phananh2531]

Bro has danny face with peggy hair 😀

[@JayDAndre]

Def scaring the heauxs 😂

[@GtotheK]

Liked the video and your style If I can make a bit of a constructive critique, there's some issues with audio mixing, your voice is low and when I turned it up the drums damn near blew my ears up 😂 You got what it takes to blow up tho good job

[@JayDAndre]

Good looks I'll definitely look into that! Appreciate u for checking me out homie!

[@bdotsoul]

“It’s a whole thing, it’s hard to explain” Could you make a video about the whole thing and explain it… Little bit hard to follow if trying to re-produce this, feels like you’re onto something here, not quite wrapping my head around full concept. The fact the metronome syncs if you drag all the drums has me pondering

[@JayDAndre]

Say less I'll go a little more in depth soon! Sorry didn't want the video to go too long! I gotchu homie

[@Beatz_by_Tp_the_don]

this channel finna blow up keep it up bro

[@JayDAndre]

My guy preesh the manifestation! 🙌🏾

[@Cabz78]

where can we find that sub bass?

[@JayDAndre]

It's in a J Dilla SoundPack I would just google J Dilla Drumkit Reddit and download a couple should be in there!

[@pdrbeats8286]

Real Hip Hop

[@JayDAndre]

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@caramelking-zf8wu]

Drum Machine > metronome ! 🚯

[@JayDAndre]

Fax man! Gotta be off the grid.. ain't no soul if you stuck perfectly on that 1 and 2!

[@JayDAndre]

But even though it can be helpful for beginners trying to keep time though!

[@anatolianINVASION]

I actually believe there was a certain level of quantization % in his beats. Combined with unquantized

[@JayDAndre]

Yeah same! I think he had a good balance of quantization and non quantization fasho!

[@tajnehal]

I didn't deserve to watch this. Thank you sir.

[@JayDAndre]

You most certainly did deserve it. I'm glad u dig it family!

[@dreamyndistant4719]

@Jay D’Andre FR MANE shits kinda easy mane just needs fr needs to be off beat n have rhythm n swing kinda like swing music 💯 need tha precision ear fr Master tha ear n recognize tha technique to the rhythm

[@JayDAndre]

Kinda! Things dont have to neccessarily be "off beat" its just he played like a live drummer it was human like and had mistakes ya know! But those mistakes are what gave it the juice and sauce, he wasnt purposely trying to be off. But youre right on the money with the ear thing fasho! It takes years to get that 🙌🏾 thanks for comin!

[@DaveDEF82]

The funny thing is that you really believe that your shit caught the important subtleties of J Dilla's drums. 🤣

[@JayDAndre]

😂😂😂 I swear I really thought I did something lmao like unnhhh you ain't Dilla

[@DaveDEF82]

@@JayDAndre Do you even do the basics like play with the velocity of your drums? Or use different variations of the same snare instead of only using one? Layering rimshots/snaps/claps and snares? Also, what made you program drums in the playlist instead of the piano roll?

[@JayDAndre]

J Dilla really did all that stuff?? And I use both the piano roll and playlist switch it up sometimes! @DaveDEF82 😊

[@DaveDEF82]

@@JayDAndre If you play your drums you will automatically get different different velocity levels. For example think about your most basic hihat pattern with a hat being played on 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 (the + being the "and"). Usually the hats hitting on the "+" would be played with less force and therefore be less loud. These dynamics add to the timing aspect. He would also sample drums that were already layered or sample a two hihats sequence instead of one... Check Narokx breakdown of Players: Sample Breakdown: Slum Village - Players (Prod. By J Dilla). You can even see in the waveform that the second hihat in that sample is less loud than the first. He also sampled way more breaks than you would think seeing how you attributed that to Nujabes. Check Narokx's breakdowns. He has definitely some of the best insight. He even remade this Elzhi banger: Hardest Dilla Breakdown EVER [ Love it Here (The Look Track 5) ].

[@JayDAndre]

@@DaveDEF82 well put! Thanks homie you really got surgical there!

[@toot0]

u probably get asked this a lot but what sample plug in is that first month makin shit nd dont know much yet

[@JayDAndre]

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[@tristanbarton9043]

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[@JayDAndre]

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[@raihanshrk1955]

cool! the kick and snare was lowkey hard hitting like 9thwonder.

[@JayDAndre]

Hell yeah man! also fun fact I got to meet 9th Wonder at a Hip Hop Festival a couple months back. Super cool dude!

[@raihanshrk1955]

@@JayDAndre wow. Salute! Shoutout from indonesia! Cheers.

[@JayDAndre]

@@raihanshrk1955 preeeesh homie!

[@BENHOOPERMUSIC]

Stay humble

[@JayDAndre]

Got to man, got to! 🙏🏾

[@tarekali1932]

it is not there

[@JayDAndre]

What's not there?

[@Keinehuel]

Dope content

[@JayDAndre]

I'm glad you dig it! 🙌🏾

[@trey531]

Fye

[@JayDAndre]

Yessir!

[@Dan-pj6fk]

cool video

[@JayDAndre]

Appreciate u!

[@concept8407]

This was more enjoyable than the other j Dilla tutorials 🫡🫡

[@JayDAndre]

Aye man thank u! 😭🙌🏾

[@AFR1i]

icy!

[@JayDAndre]

Yessir! Preesh!

[@tommyk88888]

This was pretty good until the sample part 😅 whats with the name tho? 🤔

[@JayDAndre]

😂😂😂 what was wrong with the sample?? You telling me that wasn't sexy?

[@MrWindmills]

This ain’t it dude 😂

[@JayDAndre]

@@MrWindmills lmaoooo right thank u fam!