Stealth Magnets for UNDER $200!? HE400SE Review

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[@headdirect]

Hi Josh, thank you for sharing your thoughts about our headphones! Customers' feedback means a lot to us, so we want to kindly update that we have replaced that silver cable with a black, copper cable. Now our customers may receive one black cable with the HE400SE or a silver cable and a black cable with HE400SE depending on our stock. :-)

[@funcionyforma]

Hi, congrats on this terrific headphone and on taking actions over the cable. I put my fate very early on this product, with very few information and reviews about it available, so sadly my unit came only with the original cable. I'm loving it so much and being preaching about it to anyone who need a headphone solution at this range, but oh boy I'm sufering that cable every day. I will kindly ask you if it there's a chance to get this new cable from you? Thanks in advance!

[@7sukuyomi]

@@funcionyforma im hoping you get the new cable !! :D

[@funcionyforma]

@@7sukuyomi thanks! I hope so too bro, no answer so far though

[@anishreddy6913]

can these be driven by my lgg8x phone and a gaming laptop? Thanks in advance.

[@mediocrecoder6184]

I just bought a new set of these and mine only has the trash cable, this cable is soooo bad. Worth bearing in mind even if you buy new stock you can somehow still end up with the old cable. I'm gonna reach out to hifiman and see if i can get a replacement but something to bear in mind if you buy this headphone.

[@ResolveReviews]

Oh man... I REALLY need to up my chest hair game. Josh is clearly in the lead at this point.

[@yasserouacha6299]

I hope you do a review of the Arya stealth magnets revision 😁

[@gregorkluth2857]

Lets just say his T-shirt is very revealing xD

[@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou]

@@yasserouacha6299 Even better, a comparison of the stealth magnets revision to the v1 (original) and v2 (2020).

[@Thevikingcam]

Truly a Viking level of hairy thingy going on :P

[@yasserouacha6299]

@@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou For sure 👍

[@Armbrust210]

50% less B-roll, 80% more chest hair

[@JoshuaValour]

Yes, I know the Arya has stealth magnets now. :)

[@ivanmurraylee3885]

Just wanted comment on this, guess you got us first

[@yasserouacha6299]

Hope you're gonna review it soon 😉

[@MayTheSchwartzBeWithYou]

If you could do a comparison video between the Arya v1 (what you originally reviewed, and what many of us have), the v2 (released early 2020, with the foam insert moved from the outside to the inside of the driver), and the v3 (with the stealth magnets), I bet a LOT of people would be interested in that! I know I'm not the only one wondering whether it might be worth upgrading or if there's no real audible difference.

[@tomas_m]

And was it changed in the one 2020 revision together with the added dust cover layer? Or is it another 2021 revision?

[@rdeh1678]

His shirt is only half washed he needs tide cold water

[@angelob.1089]

Congrats on the move. Excited to see what you'll do with the new place. Tour + new desk setup videos are in order.

[@ronzack4572]

I just got my pair of HE400SE just days ago, and agree with 99% of your review, especially the cable. I ordered mine from Apos, and they automatically included a much better cable in the box, without me even having to ask.

[@peacelovemetal5197]

Congrats on the move! Hope it all went well and continues going well! Thanks for the review as always though.

[@briannienaber7908]

Hey Joshua, thanks for the video! It's greatly appreciated man.

[@MrMxTech]

Congrats on the new place my man hope its an upgrade for you and the quality as good as always;)

[@mjvielle]

such an efficient and clear presentation on what I thought as well--thks!

[@Onibaka]

Finally ! I have been waiting for this update for a while.

[@mkeysermann]

Thanks for the review! I like the comparisons with 400i 2020!

[@nathantrieu4957]

Literally bought this yesterday, I was looking for your review

[@vleutje71]

I received mine today , and these have a nice black solid normal cable as stock. Thanks hifiman.

[@jasonthompson2059]

Hi Josh, just getting into the hobby.. Been using dt770 with a focusrite 8i6 as I'm a musician, but also want great quality sound, and as I progress I want to be able to test and try mixing/mastering on various open backs etc. I did a ton of research, and went with the 4xx and the Topping L50, using the 8i6 as the DAC, and I'm loving it. Dt770 sounds better too! So confusing though, I was looking at the a50s but I only have trs balances outs on my DAC, back and forth on whether balanced is even needed, so went with the se amp with balanced ins and outs with L50. A50s, liquid spark, magni heresy, ifi zen can - all pretty close. Was also looking at a30 pro, and the magnius really caught my eye but here in Canada would have been like 100 more after tax/duty/shipping. With headphone, was also looking at the he-x4, would love if you'd do a review on it.. Was also looking 58x or 6xx, but went with 4xx over 58x and the 6xx may be my next set - but am also thinking of just saving and getting the focal elex - would my l50 drive it well?. Would you say it's better to have say 3 or 4 pairs of 200ish dollar phones, ie 4xx, dt770, 58x, 6xx.. Or would you be more likely just to save up for a dt1990 or focal elex etc? Any guidance or reassurance would be greatly appreciated. Your vids have been so helpful in my journey.

[@Lokaminiac]

Thanks for the review. Great job! Some questions: 1. I found this video having some color mis-alignment issue (I am seeing shadows of different colors in your video). I watched your past videos, only a couple of them have the same issue. This is one of them. I have never seen the same problem on videos from other youtubers. I am not sure if that's your problem or mine. 2. For vocal listening, which amp/headphones are the best from your impression? Thanks.

[@igorbispo8206]

6:32 maybe you got a defective unit or something because a lot of people (myself included) think that 400se has an incredibly big soundstage for 150 USD.

[@AESTHETICCosmopolitan]

I use those with a fio q3 amplifier as speakers for my pc, though I occasionally put them on as they were intended. Had them for almost 2 years now. Breaking in is very important and removing the cloth mesh from the grills also helps the sound. Love the sound stage and sound clarity but sadly they'll never have enough bass, for a planar headphone to have the same clarity and bass they'd need to be above the 1000$ price range. For less than 200$ these are very satisfying however.

[@soup_troop]

I ordered these and Hi-Fiman threw in an extra HE-4xx style cable in the box, so they are aware!

[@pascaljean2333]

Ya i got the 90degree cable thrown in

[@Sir_Corgerus]

Same

[@Benri05]

Thanks for the review, I've been eyeing these to upgrade from my shp9500 and it looks like it's not that huge of an upgrade. I might wait and save more and just go straight to the Sundaras.

[@TheTruthKiwi]

Hey mate, I also have the 9500's, a few of the lower/midrange Sennheiser's and a set of Samson semi open back which sound phenomenal. The next logical step seems to be planar as surely a dynamic driver is a dynamic driver right?

[@lorenzo3131]

Hey Joshua! I'm no expert nor audiophile by any means, but thanks to your reviews I tried for the first time this kind of quality headphones. I was always afraid this would cost me a lot, but thanks to your recommendations I tried the HE400SE with a Neoteck budget headphone amp, with a ~250€ total investment, totally worth it for a newbie to great quality sound like me. I'm now in a fantastic journey of rediscovering all the music I've been listening for my whole life, I'm back to listening music regularly and I can't wait to put on these puppies again. I'm even thrilled to deep dig into Apple's music database and discover new music to listen to. Thanks for your channel and reviews!

[@saamo1423]

Hey dude, I highly recommend looking at 2nd hand dacs and amps. The neotek is a cool little brick, but things get much better up the road

[@lorenzo3131]

@@saamo1423 Thanks! It would seem so, I still can't believe the neotek even works for only 30€. I might try a better amp as per your recommendation, but I'm afraid that might put me at the beginning of one of those long, neverending expensive hobbyist trips!

[@myquietreviewsfeaturingc.t9354]

For $200 the Schiit HeL 2 is worth every damn penny!!! I know you don’t know me from a can paint but Trust Me you will not regret it 👍🏿

[@zaironwellfabella332]

@@lorenzo3131 filipino ka brad? sa lazada mo ba na order yang neoteck?

[@dtz1000]

It's ok, but it's a downgrade over the original he400s.

[@farawaythrower]

lmao that little cable intro was golden

[@MiniMicroFPV]

Hi Joshua. Nice review! New headphone enthusiast here and I picked up a pair of these as my first planar and loved the sound but I also heard the harsh sibilance in some tracks. This was a bummer so I returned them and stretched to the Sundaras. I’m very happy with those~~ Oh, and as some others have mentioned, Hifiman seems to be including a better cable with these now.

[@ReefZA]

How are the Sundara's bass wise vs the 400se?

[@atyne_mar]

@@ReefZA Sundara has slightly more bass

[@MiniMicroFPV]

@@ReefZA Yes it’s been about a week since I returned the 400SEs so I can’t do an A/B but I’d say I was happy with the low end on both. It was more in the smoothness of the highs that really separated the 400s from the Sundaras for me.

[@AsreiMurasame]

Something I really want to find out about is the Arya SE. (I own the previous model Arya.) I'm curious as to if or not these magnets have affected it's sound staging abilities.

[@dho]

hey hey! I'd really love to see you take a look at the Deva Pro. I think it's a really impressive offering only slightly more expensive than the original model but clearly with a hardware redo and updated bluetooth module that doubles the original battery life. I think I'll be picking up a unit regardless but I'd love to see some content and thoughts about it.

[@CybertroninfiniteOfficial]

it's ok, but I think the he-5xx has a more comfortable headband

[@MRFUTURETECHNOLOGYGAMING]

I wish the HIFIMAN HE 6SE V2 was this silver color maybe V3 soon my favorite well part done Josh 2:05

[@PhoggHawk]

I get the impression that the Stealth Magnet versions tend to have a smaller soundstage, based on some of the other reviews. I think Josh said this about the Arya Stealth vs the non-stealth version. Do you suppose it's due to the rounded shape of the magnets instead of the squared ones? 🤔

[@npolias73]

Josh love your reviews!!! Can you review the Sennheiser HD599 please!!

[@Sinsanatis]

been considering the he-x4. would be awesome to see ur view on it

[@alouisschafer7212]

I think that horrible cable is off the shelves now. Mine came with a nice black cable. The have been a great entry to planars for me. The sound is simply a 10/10 for 149€ with EQ applied. These are the most fun and musical headphones in my collection (AKG K702, DT990 Pro, a few IEMs). Can recommend the HE400se no problem over the aforementioned headphones. But you NEED an amp to run them. My FiiO K3 can drive them just fine but Laptop, Phone etc? No chance. I do agree with your criticism on the soundstage. These headphones sound really wide and lively at first but yes the imaging is very concentrated around the center. Im getting the typical 3 point soundstage from them: left earcup, center, right earcup with nothing to fill the voids in between. This is a discipline these lack in but they make up for it and if you come from worse headphones and upgrade to the 400se you will love them anyways.

[@inteli7812]

good video, one question, which of these two audio interfaces has better sound quality and would also serve to power those hifiman he400se with enough volume?... the Audient iD4 MKII USB-C or Audient EVO 4?

[@johnsoriano3812]

Great review!

[@NeilBlanchard]

Josh, have you compared these to the Monolith M570? And have you reviewed the Verum 1 v2?

[@astorbeijer9424]

I hope you didn't move too far away from Tyler. You guys' whiskey videos are the best!

[@atyne_mar]

2:10 lol this is why I love your reviews. I advice to try removing the grills. Improves the soundstage.

[@comkioxd]

why would i remove the grills, that takes away from the low end, and you say that's better for fps games? this is THE dumbest comment i've seen today

[@ethanavi]

@@comkioxd because a lot of people regard good gaming headphones as having a good treble extension and detail, e.g the hd800s

[@aqilardi5266]

@@comkioxd most gunshots and footsteps usually reside in the upper end though

[@wesleyleigh4063]

Great vid. I think these compete in overall quality with the 6XX/58X headphones, I've had both (58X) and if i had to pick i'd go with Hifiman, though its definitely close. First off they are flatter to my ears, but it's mostly because entry level planars have a more pleasant and less dull or noisy sonic character. That being said, I recently upgraded to the Verum 1's and I really must say that they are just that much better then the 400SE's, more so than the price difference. Honestly I wish there was a Verum 1 level performer for $200 but this is yet to meterialize, so I'd say certainly consider getting the Verum 1's over these if your willing to pay $350.

[@axchisler]

Damn! Just the review I was looking for. I've been trying to decide between the 400SE and the 400i and your great descriptions I think have finally brought me to a conclusion. 400i, no question.

[@OrdLee]

Waiting for a video and your thoughts on the Dunu EST112 or just straight comparing it to the Thieaudio Oracle.

[@PikaSquish]

Yo have you checked out the current massdrop x noble luxe iems? It was getting some bad reviews but it's on sale for 40$ from 99$, gonna try them out with some dekoni bulletz. Congrats on the move btw!

[@KmtS9]

Was able to cop these for $70 a few months ago and i really can't complain. Note that these are the non-stealth magnets. But the cable is the newer, much nicer (in my opinion) ones. Stealth magnet version was $110, so I couldn't justify the extra cost since i also bought a Topping DX1 (for $80). As my first "audiophile" headphone, super happy with the purchase! Side note, bought an M40X recently as well since i wanted a closed back for a different flavor. Got them for $120 - probably more than is the usual current price - but where i'm from, i think was a decent deal (usually sells for $140).

[@dukeyin1111]

Hifiman selling b-stock stealth version for 59 tax free shipping free!

[@lockjaw333]

Do you think the Sundara will get an update with the Stealth magnets?

[@Yaar1345]

You've mentioned in previous videos that you can mod the Darkvoice a lot, any chance you could do a mod review for any mods you have on yours/want to do to yours? I am thinking about doing a shunted pot on mine for better volume control but my soldering skills aren't exactly the best

[@mikylenaidoo1779]

Hey there , I see you have your favourite headphones listed , Is it possible to also have a category of "best" headphones , since we know that the ab1266 is your idea of the best headphone .. it would be nice to also have this in the other listings

[@Wulfrig1911]

Would you recommend these for someone who doesn't own a pair of planar headphones yet? And what kind of AMP would I need? Thanks Josh :)

[@---us7qf]

Josh, I have a question unrelated to this video. Ques: I am looking to buy the Sennheiser IE900. I also want to pickup a mobile/portable HiRes music player. Which would you recommend?

[@vinylsidechats]

I'm looking on getting these. What do you think about the HE400SE headphones paired with the Schiit Asgard 3 headphone amp?

[@kendoglarson5419]

What does changing out the mesh grille for a more open one? Does that add to soundstage? Really what's the benefit of unrestricting air flow from the magnets?

[@hondayamaha3]

I'm new to this and I'm glad I find your channel. Very professional and your description is so organized and helpful. Thankyou so much

[@MohamedSamir-gn3hg]

would love to see your review on the Sivga SV021

[@braedenkirkendall4834]

Hey, quick question. If you could choose either this or the he4xx, which one would you pick?

[@pitch25807]

What should I pick for my first real headphone philips shp9500 or hifiman 400i for 70daller more thank you.

[@ndMaikel]

Sennheiser hd560s vs Hifiman He400se I am still comparing them for days side by side. I'm just a casual listener who appreciates the "great" sound. I'll try to explain the sound. I use the Soundblaster AE-5 btw. Hifiman HE400SE needs a great amp! I kinda love the treble/highs here... it's so smooth and also clear. Mids need EQ around 2 Khz (+2db to +4 db). Vocals are clear but a little bit laid back compared to HD560s, but still very present. Bass responses are crisps and tight similar to HD560s. To my ears, the HE400se has a very "creamy" sound after EQ and with an amp. I just enjoy the creamy dessert with its flavours. I just can enjoy it for a longer time of period. The sound is also more around your head and stays there "airy". It tries to hug you, but it depends on you if you allow it or not. Like: Treble/Highs smooth and overall easier to listen to Bass extension and the ?vibrations? It's not that tight like the HD560s Spacious sound, but sometimes voice etc. sound not that close Sennheiser HD560s do not necessarily need an amp. Treble here is a little bit too much and harsh sometimes around 4KHz. I personally dropped this area by about -2db. Mids are very crystal clear and I love voices here, for me the best part. Bass are kinda similar to HE400se but maybe a tiny bit tighter with a little bit more "spiky" punch, like how the highs are (bass sometimes a little bit too clean/clinical). Overall, it is more "spicy" and makes me more aware and cautious of different sounds so it can get quite sweaty. The sound tries to get into my head with spikes and spices. Sometimes it forces me to listen (less chill than HE400se). Like: Mids with crystal clear voices Closer to the ears but still with soundstage (not too narrow) Tight sound (sometimes too clean like the bass -> makes harder to vibe) Light on the head

[@dtz1000]

"Creamy"? Really? You're going to use nonsense words like that in your review? Try again.

[@ndMaikel]

@@dtz1000 I mean greasy like chips or a Big Mac

[@dtz1000]

@@ndMaikel Much better.

[@rexxar6283]

You would upload a video about the HE400SE the day after I spent debating on whether to get these or the fidelios

[@nickhyder9141]

which of their headphones is best for studio monitoring/mixing?

[@jonathanalemanlinares9473]

Do you recommend the HE400SE over the SHP9500 if I use a laptop?

[@Icetres]

I just bought mine and the cable on packet was black and very good on use and doesn't have those problems shown here.

[@hitosidy3237]

If you would put these head to head with the 560s which would you recommend?

[@jazzcat2075]

Please, do Audeze LCD-2 (2021 revision), dying to know how they sound after pads update. Everyone talks about LCD-X, but LCD-2 2021 review is nowhere to be found.

[@sysdrumatic]

Which would be a better acquisition. Sennheiser 560S for 160 dlls or Hifiman HE400SE for 180 dlls?

[@ellisrifter6621]

I hath arriveth to enjoy the video of Joshua Valour review on the HE400SE

[@sankalp1119]

Still waiting on HD599SE. They are the really cheap where I live and wanna know if should swipe the card

[@BamBusB]

Question! whats the best stepup from a beyerdynamic dt990 250 Ohm. I have an 600 Ohm ifi zen amp Looking for up to 400 $

[@abhishekpm1038]

Can you do a comparison between this and the deva ?

[@zaironwellfabella332]

is 170 mW @ 32 ohm max enough for the he400se? thanks for the response

[@Lobstersarefabulouz]

If I get this headphone.. What cable would yall recommend me?

[@IpodCY]

How would you compare this to a t50rp as a budget planar?

[@pollo007x]

Hi i know this is an old video, but, if you have to choose guys, which one would you choose, philips 95000 or this hifiman 400se but you have to buy a good Dongle dac to power them. It would be worth it the extra money to spend?

[@msalt19]

Love the hat. Do you fly-fish?

[@taitloyek7980]

Congrats on the move! Do you happen to know if they are putting stealth magnets in every hifiman now?

[@atyne_mar]

No. Only 400se (international), Arya (2021), and Susvara.

[@gonrossi]

Hi Josh !!! Would I be able to power this one with a MacBook Pro M1 3.5mm jack?

[@kevinhamlett1400]

I use S.M.S.L SP200 headphone amp. I also use Bellari EQ570 to adjust to my preference. I use a FIIO k5 pro Dac also. I also have the HE400se.

[@AssassinsFear]

Would a fiio btr3k push enough power to run these guys?

[@tazeru]

Looks like we also need Sundara SE now :D

[@tomas_m]

Most of all Hifiman needs to clearly mark the revisions

[@shady525]

Which one do I get between these and HE-X4? - HE-X4 Around $140 on Drop after taxes & shipping (4-10 days) - HE400SE Around $160 on Amazon after taxes & shipping (Prime shipping)

[@thevindictive6145]

Gonna pair these with the SMSL SU-1 with a duok u3 HP amp as my first set up. Should be good enough.

[@jackielim3172]

Is this a better value headphone or a good upgrade from the the SHP 9500? I would think the 400SE has better soundstage but I heard the mids are clearer in the Philips. I have an old Fiio Q1 Mk1, I guess it's enough to drive in terms of power, but maybe not the best resolution for the 400SE?

[@pollo007x]

Same question here, not sure wich one to buy, considering that if I choose the Hifiman I would have to buy a good dac

[@roshill2010]

Joshua your've been really helpful in streamlining on what I need in a good audiophile system. Could you touch on the software side of things. If you already have I haven't seen it. What format would you recommend for great audio? What software do you use to get the most out of your system? What setting do you use for song of your favourite generes.

[@eriklamelakillingspree7690]

I have 6XX. Are these worth getting or should I save for Sundara?

[@elsombrero7495]

How does it compare to the 5xx?

[@nickbenrawb]

Do you have a recommendation for a after market aux cable ?

[@Justsagebro]

is it sacrilegious to just run an eq on those? im looking for a well buit open back for gaming that isnt the phillips

[@completestrangeronline7284]

Love how the headphones magically appear on your head at 5:41

[@SomebodysNephew]

As long as you're not searching for a heavy v shape bass heavy sound these are incredible. The sub bass extension is so ridiculous you can hear it sitting on your desk. They just do not respond to the boosted bass very well. They also are very power hungry and not quite capable of really being pushed that hard. Regardless if all you want is to hear what it's supposed to sound like grab em.

[@thatfellarosto]

personally for my own taste in what I like, I really love the bass in the 400SE. I 've been running them through my Xduoo MT-602 hybrid tube amp, and they honestly have nicer bass than all my other headphones to my ears when ran through that amp.

[@LencoTB]

What is the name of the red speaker that was next to the monitor?

[@svilleda237]

👀 400i Vs Ananda? What would be your preference?

[@owenp475]

@joshua valor Will you be at canjam this September?

[@JerusOrtiz]

The price of this one and Philips SHP9600 are somewhat close here in my country. Which one would you prefer in terms of build/durability and sound quality overall? Planning to get my first openback headphones. Thank you!

[@CrossfeetGaming]

If you primarily do gaming (especially, competitive shooters) go for the SHP 9600. If you're gonna use these for music and light gaming (say, singleplayer) go for HE400SE

[@nigurut]

For big heads, can you bend it?

[@joshchacko7729]

How does this compare to their HE-R9?

[@shaangrewal5071]

would a qudelix 5k be ok with this?

[@HolyRamanRajya]

how does it compare to the hifiman deva

[@neelalohithmoudgalya8456]

Note on the availability of the He-400i 2020, I emailed the hifiman rep a few months ago, the He-400i 2020 has officially been discontinued, it is only available in Europe now until stocks last. So if you are in North America the 400 se is the only stealth magnet alternative. But other dual magnet iterations of the 400 series are available.

[@catdk4367]

So I'm hearing that the 400i2020 now a "rare" "limited" headphone?

[@neelalohithmoudgalya8456]

@@catdk4367 Yeah..., Pretty much.

[@dtz1000]

It doesn't matter if it's discontinued. I've had that headphone and it wasn't very good. Too light on the bass. Don't listen to just one youtuber with his nonsense review on KZbin. Many people agree with me and don't like the 400i. He400se or he400s has a better overall sound.

[@N02tradamus]

Nice I can buy the HE400SE vs the Susvaras now ;P

[@Flixcer1404]

i see a lot review about this one they claim it as Baby sundara sad that you not compare this two but Nice quality review!

[@prashamgala2283]

Are the m1060 best in class

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

Use a Creative Play4 USB-C DAC with these. Rated up to 150ohm and 24/192 playback. Sounds great. $25

[@tommyv8584]

Why can audiophile headphones arrive with soft untangle and still not stiff cable.Headphone companies need do better for the users experience.

[@joshblank1]

He400se vs hd560s comparisons??

[@shahkhan110]

nice review Josh. How does it compare to 4xx in mids, treble, and soundstage? Your comparison with 400i 2020 is good, but it's discontinued by hifiman, while 4xx is still available on Drop.

[@Cooe.]

The HE-4XX is just the Chinese model HE400se (aka NO Stealth Magnets!!! But otherwise identical), but using the far inferior, last-gen parts bin frame/housing from the HE400i 2020 (to help clear old inventory out. This is basically what they do with ALL their "Drop" models). If you're gonna go that route, you should just get an ACTUAL Chinese model HE400se. It'll be the same price or cheaper than the HE-4XX's, & use the EXACT SAME drivers, but with a much, MUCH more comfortable & better built aluminum frame & ACTUALLY padded headband. Honestly though, it's IMO worth just getting the International model HE400se with the Stealth Magnets. Aside from the issue of being harder to drive (bc the Stealth Magnets raise their impedance from the officially rated 25Ω [calculated on the Chinese model even if the same # is listed for both] to more like ≈50Ω) they just sound better than the Chinese model/HE-4XX!

[@marike1100]

I bought mine from Hifiman, and they gave me a much better black cable as a bonus.

[@4ruitz]

Wot?!?? Since when . Bruh i just bought mine and i got nothing like that

[@LorenzoFrausto]

@@4ruitz Bought from amazon and got the same.

[@4ruitz]

@@LorenzoFrausto i asked hifiman and they said it was mistake and sent out the black ones