Steam Controller Long Term Review - Is it terrible?

Is the Steam Controller an overall failure like Steam OS, or does it have a place in a standard gamer's peripheral lineup?
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[@Nobody432_YT]

anyone here because you found out that the steam controller is $5 USD right now Edit: I forgot about taxes and shipping fee. Edit2: The promotion is over. It was 5$ I’m pretty sure the controller is discontinued

[@christianledesma9761]

yea lmao

[@TheOfficialStal]

Haha, yeah bought it if I like it I'll keep it, don't like it I'll sell it, win win.

[@deejay7339]

13 because shipping

[@1810jeff]

Yup same

[@Shmeve0]

Yes

[@darkfox2401]

Its compatible with PC games that don't even have controller support that's the whole point why they "reinvented the wheel"

[@jonathanoxlade4252]

They could make a multi purpose controller so it has a keyboard aswel just like with the normal controller where you can hook a typing pad lol then we can talk yes it will make the controller bigger but I had no isues when I had my 360" controller with touch pad makes typing quicker than scrolling the letters you want

[@neolexiousneolexian6079]

@@jonathanoxlade4252 You can't play WASD or mouse games on a mini keyboard.

[@turtlehub2731]

so is every controller compadable with your pc

[@danibot3000]

Ever heard of xPadder? You can map mouse/keyboard to your regular game controller

[@511graphix]

@@turtlehub2731 pretty much

[@WraithSeer-uv6tv]

I dont understand why the gyro wasnt mentioned at all in this video. It seems like one of the main features of the steam controller. Its perfect for racing games, and with the right set up. Allows for fine motor skills in shooters.

[@MGrey-qb5xz]

cause i don't wanna wiggle my controller around like i do with my co*k

[@ericbazinga]

@@MGrey-qb5xz that's your opinion. Doesn't mean there aren't people who do like gyro.

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

Probably because at the time they really didn't know what to make of it.

[@chopsfps]

anyone else just impulse buy the controller and now you're checking if it was worth it

[@TheShicksinator]

It appears not for 50 but must definitely a steal for 5.

[@samuelcowan5056]

Well I have been considering buying one for a long time I was waiting for a significant price drop like they did with the steam link when it went on sale for 2.50 and this sale was my chance to pounce so I bought 2

[@IWantToBelieve1]

Yeah, absolutely. I expect mine sometime in 2020 haha

[@ArksDigital]

It is worth it, I am looking to buy a 3rd one.

[@albrius9898]

haha, *looks away nervously*

[@neonlightning8062]

i have increasing hand pain and cant use a mouse. I use a track ball if i really have to, and i use a controller as much as possible. The steam controller helps me with my hand pains the most, so i love it.

[@zhozan13]

Thanks, I was thinking of getting one. I also use a trackball, been my go since using a computer.

[@lindsaygibson2142]

@@zhozan13 I ended up buying a track ball because I love my steam controller XD

[@Withamik]

I've been using my controller a bunch and it actually has been helping my hand pains. I've been setting it up for my softwares like for music production and making games, it's been really awesome and so comfortable to lay down and still be productive (except how long it takes to create and modify the controls but that's also fun to do too!)

[@themissinfowar6629]

Terminal 〰️ankers cramp! ( •̀_•́ )σ

[@daviddebroux4708]

" _Damn_, Gabe!" Never have I ever heard Luke instill so much passion in such few words, before.

[@daviddebroux4708]

KZbin, pls, lemme edit my own comments. _Damn_ pls make it work.

[@daviddebroux4708]

It works!!!!1111 God, save me.

[@mousab9]

+David DeBroux may the lord bless your amazing discovery

[@daviddebroux4708]

heyyguyz I swear to God I was gonna edit it, but KZbin mobile didn't let me. Sad face.

[@daviddebroux4708]

Plus HOLY FUCK HOW DID THIS GET 43 +1S IN LESS THAN AN HOUR??? Or wait it was four hours since I checked it... fuck...

[@Vyake]

1 year playing almost every day with it and I'm still finding new things and uses for it, this controller is just amazing.

[@JT_vids]

Is it better than the Series X controller? I currently use that because of how comfortable it is

[@shanez1215]

​@bigmeme2312 It's not quite better so much as it is different. Some games it's much better and some it's not as good. Anything where you move with a DPad is MUCH better on a traditional controller. But any MMO that uses WASD for movement and mouse is a lot better on this vs on the Series X. I just set mine up for Toontown and it's awesome. On the other hand I'm a huge fan of Halo and the SC is not well suited to it. Halo is more like classic games where you're mostly shooting from the hip in short to medium range. That means that you either need to have gyro always on or never. You also need to use the track pad for looking around which may not be quite as good, especially for platforming in minigames. Ironically the controller would be better for Halo for left handed players, as they can use the left stick to look around and a track pad to strafe but that may feel weird. The other problem with Halo and other MP shooters is that it locks you into only one input type, so you can't use a hybrid layout. This means you have to pick between analog movement and mouse-like aiming.

[@wet0wl]

@@JT_vidsIt depends on what games you play. Certain games may help from the thumb stick but with shooters, having a touchpad and gyro is miles better.

[@TurboPikachu]

+LinusTechTips you should make a new 1 year use review, especially that the controller's new standard price is now $35.

[@TheAmazingChrisDK]

TurboPikachuX and the shipping is a lot!

[@TurboPikachu]

Chrissoy That's why I bought mine at GameStop. 6.75% sales tax has been lower than Amazon's avg shipping for items under $50.

[@willier47]

TurboPikachuX Woah $35? Thats so Lit! I love this Controller so I'm fine with me paying $50 for it. I replayed Batman Arkham Knight. Its also good with Shooters as long as you're on Steam. Its a learning Curve for shooters though. It works phenomenal with Rocket League.

[@kingprone7846]

just thinking the same thing. 35 dollars i definitely get one. not the worst thing if you are a student but have a biggish pc screen and a bed close to your computer.

[@darknight264441]

And the controller recently got an update with a few new features.

[@marilyto]

Glossy plastic! That fucking plastic!

[@WereCatStudio]

+Luis Ortiz It doesent look that bad. It looks far worse on photos and videos but in reality you barely notice it like on Microsoft XBOX 360 controller. It also has glossy plastic and I have seen noone complain about it.

[@Dezza2241]

Hence why it has the word plastic in it 'Metal pole' it's fucking metal

[@dhxmg]

+Wyrdak That's because the 360 controller is cheap-ish. Really, I have issues with the glossy plastic, but it's mostly down to where it connects with the matter plastic.

[@AnimilesYT]

+Luis Ortiz Glossy plastic is fucking fantastic! :D

[@xlChronos]

+Wyrdak i think he meant that after using it you have fingerprints all over it

[@WereCatStudio]

I watched this review on Vessel but my Steam Controller arrived since then and I must dislike this review..sorry. 1.) Controller doesent feel cheap at all. It feels exactly as Microsoft XBOX 360 controller. 2.) The gloss plastic is about as annoying as on the XBOX 360 controller .. so basicaly you wont even notice. It doesent come into contact with your hands. 3.) It is very comfortable to hold. 4.) This is supposed to be a review and you havent even mentioned Gyroscope or went deeper into how well you can customize it so this only makes it a impression not a review. 5.) Gyro (motion controlls) work supprisingly well and are almost as good as using mouse when you set it to work as a mouse.

[@cesrai]

Nice info

[@beebeegun16]

+Wyrdak long-term review* meaning his impressions on it while using it over a period of time. Perhaps the gyro wasn't something he used or even noticed

[@taherajna]

+Wyrdak damn, i didn't even know it had gyro . That would make flying so fun in games. Plus this review is super later as you said, this vessel shit shouldn't be done to product reviews, kills the whole point of getting information to the mass asap.

[@Luke29121999]

+Wyrdak Sadly as far as i see most reviews are like this.

[@GameHound]

+Wyrdak Thanks for the input.

[@randeepthe13th]

My impression: Started playing dark souls 3 with the steam controller. A small learning curve and I used the top community config. Got an xbox one controller halfway through the game. Tried it and was terribly unhappy - ran back to the steam controller. I think the Xbox controller is now my "guest" controller. The feel was better and the button placement, while unusual, eventually felt superior. Well done valve, I wasn't expecting to love this.

[@dreigram]

100% agree about Dark Souls 3, or any Dark Souls game for that matter. I own 2 of these controllers now and although there is a little bit of time invested in initial setup for a game, the superior controls are worth it. An important note is that if you bind 2 of your ABXY buttons to the paddle buttons, you can use those while simultaneously controlling camera with the right touchpad, a feat that is much more difficult (not impossible, but very awkward) with a normal controller.

[@Mernom]

I didn't even need to change anything, the back bottoms were already bound to dodge and estus. The only thing that's hard to do with it is jumping and walking slowly.

[@TerruvianPuff]

using mine to type this reply!!

[@Sonnera]

Is $50 cheap for a console style controller now?? I must have missed something.

[@bobowon5450]

yeah, some controllers go for as high as 70+

[@1paygabe]

$150*

[@matthausatkins6372]

bloody wii remotes are still $60

[@oscarsbleach2390]

back in the uk the steam controller is £22

[@zzzZniitemareZzzz]

Oscar's Bleach this is an old ass video dude

[@MAMAsb0y]

I love how you did this review, most the other reviews and first impression videos are basically, they pick it up, open some first person shooter for five minutes, cant aim for shit, and then say the steam controller is hard to use and its better just to stick with a normal controller.

[@iBoolGuy]

+MAMAs b0y that's why they're called LMG :D

[@VocaloidHDSub]

+MAMAs b0y Sounds like Austin's review.

[@SonofTiamat]

+MAMAs b0y Yeah, I admit I bought this for TF2 after watching Muselk play with it, but I've been having a hard time using it. I don't know if it's just me or it needs further adjusting.

[@vitaminc4tm779]

maybe it's you but I think the steam controller is for casual games like battleblock teather , overcooked and etc.

[@stensoft]

I played whole Borderlands 2 and Presequel with it, twice. I had no problems with aiming. I think it's really good for FPS if you are used to playing with a mouse and not a controller, the touchpad is very easy to use.

[@TheHoaxHotel]

Hapticness = happiness

[@LordGangrel]

+The Hoax Hotel Happtiness?

[@Gohrek]

+The Hoax Hotel Love your videos, man. Keep up the good work.

[@CoBrosAnimations01]

who came after they bought it for 5 bucks

[@xvc918x8]

i did lol

[@Gamexpertvids]

Plus shipping hmm...

[@maddog8492]

Plus the shipping it was 27€ for me but it is still very good deal

[@xvc918x8]

was like 15 dollars basically but ay it is going to be discontiued i guess people already selling them on ebay lol

[@Gamexpertvids]

@@xvc918x8 You should see how much a used or new Steam Link goes for sale. No wonder people bought the controller so quick.

[@suroguner]

$59.99 is not Fifty Bucks it's more like Sixty Bucks.

[@suroguner]

+Rob The Ripper I would, if he showed the US site instead of the CAD site. This guy also didn't say that the site he showed was the Canadian one, so how was I suppose to know? I don't normally shop steam for hardware.

[@BebxOfficial]

suroguner It's now around 35 bucks; way better.

[@ColinJMonge]

suroguner his was CAD

[@brendontompa-clinch2306]

suroguner u

[@jamesoren7238]

Plus I'd wager most people get the steam controller when it's on sale... like steam games

[@patrickkrueger1819]

I'm currently loving my steam controller. The mode shifting just makes it such a step above other controllers with how easy it is to customize. And, honestly, the trackpad emulating a trackball mouse is my favorite camera control ever on a controller.

[@falkkiwiben]

+Patrick Krueger do you play EU4? If so could you tell me how good it is with it?

[@patrickkrueger1819]

+Benjamin Macdonald I have not but I imagine it would work great. I use it mostly for Fallout 4, Witcher 3, Dying Light, and others like that. I wouldn't use this in any competitive shooters or anything but, for anything single player, this is my go to.

[@Zetler]

Mode switching is a game changer. This controller isn't designed to replace everything but it allows you to play mouse driven RPG and light RTS games on from the couch. Something that was impossible before.

[@NotAFanMan88]

+Patrick Krueger I got one too, and it's really fun for FPS games. Gyroscope aiming is amazing.

[@djinnsmith6407]

I love mine also, just wish they had a option for a chat pad with audio jack add on device. I would love to plug in head phones to my steam controller.

[@ubhelbr]

I liked the part where Ryan Gosling is playing on the couch

[@probablymelgibson2344]

Vipelierre Serpifeu underrated yet genius comment, someone finally noticed it

[@svenspajgl9118]

Is it for rocket league

[@easymoneybabyyy]

I see ur snivy

[@ArthurD]

2019 here, shortage due to massive ordering heist will be INSANE.

[@lego_minifig]

$5 is hard to pass up

[@baconjockey3856]

I bought mine 2 days ago...

[@The_Death_Owl]

I heard they aren't making any more and the sale was just to get rid of them

[@heyfamilyguy]

There will be no shortage - Valve's done making Steam Controllers

[@popphoenixh]

Most of them were refunded

[@Durrutitv]

Having owned a steam controller for a year now, I absolutely love it. I do all of my gaming on a T. While I use a folding TV dinner table with an orbweaver and mouse for multi-player fps (mostly overwatch) , I use a steam controller for everything else, including single player fps. The gyroscope acting as a low dpi mouse is amazing for precision aiming when combined with the track pad at higher dpi settings. The gyro is also awesome for steering in driving games. The track pad is a joy to use for movement in shumps and fast paced platformers. One of my favorite configs is using dual track pads for The Binding of Issac: Rebirth, which makes the game feel incredibly fluid. I adore this controller and while it took some time to get used to it rather than an Xbox controller, it is absolutely worth it. The versatility of this thing is unmatched, and the play style it enables for some games makes it so much more fun to use than a standard Xbox controller.

[@rafiahmed2453]

Reason I joined Linus Tech Tips: I have a dumb PC !!!

[@maxoneill6582]

😂😂

[@matchboxp]

I have the same reason xD

[@reapzdeatth]

good for you now you have cancer

[@rafiahmed2453]

+[cancer]Linus just the tips ????

[@reapzdeatth]

***** you know ,just the

[@maulaucraw1209]

$5 ? no brainer!

[@urzathehappy72]

out of stock now fuck

[@GabrielIgnacio]

If anyone new is watching this, the Steam Controller is on sale for $35 alone and more with a bundled game such as Talos Principle or Rocket League as per Steam Summer Sales.

[@nick_pappagiorgio]

I got one on sale to try. Valve also offers 30 day no questions asked refunds with free shipping if you don't like it.

[@GabrielIgnacio]

+Nick Pappagiorgio I noticed. I'm buying one because I've previously used one via a friend and pretty much love it despite the steep learning curve

[@hhhhaaaaxxxxx]

Though it has 8 dollar shipping to US. I feel bad for the people overseas in this situation.

[@matthewcole9111]

It's on amazon for the same sale price.

[@hhhhaaaaxxxxx]

Matthew Cole Thanks, I just figured that out.

[@Cam-xn1en]

Pretty much only here because I saw it for $5 on sale.

[@Gapil]

"The cost is cheap, but it feels pretty cheap which is a little disappointing." What you expected? a golden controller? lol.

[@mign2818]

yes

[@eagleftball07]

+Gapil I've never understood the complaints about this or the glossy plastic. I use a controller based on how it works, not what it looks like.

[@CDRaff]

+Gapil What I don't get is in the same breath comparing it to the Xbox Elite controller and not mentioning the $100 price difference between the products.

[@DouglasQuaid999]

+Christopher Raff Exactly. Steam controller in UK is £40, the same price as a PS4/Xbone controller and the quality is very similar.

[@jeconiahhoffman4892]

+Gapil Actually, speaking from experience, it does not feel cheap at all. Almost the same quality of a 360 controller, but the bumpers and analog stick seem to be holding up better through use better than the 360 controller.

[@stormer14789]

50 bucks = 59.99 dollar

[@ShadowLimited310]

its Canadian they use the same dollar sign

[@Blueeyedmerle]

+stormer14789 canadian

[@timmyp7]

+stormer14789 When Luke said it was $50, he added the fact it was that price the United States. LinusTechTips is stationed in Canada, where it might appear to be priced a tad higher at first glance.

[@ShadowLimited310]

Timmy P no its more like the dollar has less value

[@timmyp7]

Jose Brito Yes, I an aware. My point stands, however, as to why the price shown on the screen varies from what Luke said.

[@SilkroadAllDay]

its like 5.5 euro or 6 dollars now on steam 27/11/2019

[@niklasbergmann]

And im thinking about picking it up but idk if its worth other games than strategy games lol

[@David-hh8on]

i was wondering is it possible to buy a lot and resell

[@niklasbergmann]

@@David-hh8on I heard from someone else already that you can buy only one for every account. Also i ordered one now, i hope itll be worth it.

[@datyoungswag]

Shipping costs for US are like $8, I think its about the same for EU

[@David-hh8on]

It's worth $12 including tax and delivery.

[@Metalbirne]

I have a steam controller and I can say that no, the material and production quality is exactly the same as any other xbox controller. Yes, the glossy plastic sucks but that's an aesthetic issue not a quality issue. I love the steam controller and have since disposed of my old xbox controller as atleast in my opinion it is with some very few exceptions superior to it. Playing Dark Souls with it felt like cheating and made using ranged combat with manual aim much more enjoyable because it gives your shots a lot more precision. I could write more about it but others have already said it: The steam controller is great and i love it a big deal. IT DOESNT FEEL CHEAP!

[@Metalbirne]

+Metalbirne I just realised how biased this review is. Is luke paid by microsoft or something? Watching the video a second time i saw him comapring the quality to a MS controller that literally costs three tiems as much. I have never had an Xbox elite controller but I surely hope it has better quality considering the price gap!

[@sasuke65743]

No, The quality is by fa superior than the xbox controllers (at least the 360 ones). I have it from almost a year now and they never broke once.

[@harshitmadhian2409]

Does it work with steam games only or any (ulay,Origin, or pirated games)?

[@vespaman101]

meh... i think they just mean the feel of the plastic. but for mine the bumpers sometimes aren't quite so easy to press the first time. and the touch pads can be a little harder to press down at times.

[@danroberts7975]

I agree! Maybe the controller back in late 2015 was an earlier revision? I bought mine with the DOOM bundle recently and love it! The controller has a quality feel to it and even the packaging that it came in is really nice. I can play every game in my library with the controller even really old DOS emulated games! I think the versatility of this controller to control a PC as a mouse and keyboard is where it really shines.

[@GarlashZephyr]

Enabling gyro aim for FPS games was a HUGE game changer when it came to using this controller. Definitely look into it

[@dansmith1801]

I bought it from gamestop just in case I wanted to return it. I had it for 2 days. first day I was like "meh." Day 2 I fell in love with it. It's my favorite controller hands down now. When the lady wants me to come to bed, I can switch from KB + M to my controller. I've been playing Civ 5, LoL, BF4, WoW , Chivalry and many more without any issues at all. You sometimes just need to be patient figuring out how to personalize this controller to your play style. I wish he would of talked about Gyro because honestly it's changed how I like to play First Person Shooters.

[@HeartcoreMitRA]

Just played UT 2004 with Steam Controller. First few rounds shown i'm equal to masterful bot level, which is awesome result for a gamepad with few hours of usage.

[@lDavidl]

Nice, first thing I tried is Quake Live. I am total shit with gamepads for anything of that type of game, though :) I also tried Dirty Bomb and I'm gonna try TOXIKK next. It works suprisingly well. But yeah, I personally am garbage with controllers in FPS'.

[@ClaytonRego]

I actually love this controller. I often use it more than a mouse an keyboard for games that in my opinion, suck with mouse and keyboard (Warframe for example). Xinput controllers actually suck in comparison to this, but then again, this is my take on it...

[@Agret]

Warframe is a bad example because of the extremely fast movement in the game you are constantly moving your aim and need to have precision shots on tons of moving targets so the mouse/keyboard is a million times better for this sort of game than a controller unless you are playing the early parts of the game where everything is trivially easy.

[@0verride881]

@@Agret Little late reply, but gyro on the steam controller addresses your aim concern completely. Not to mention, the standard crouch + jump + double jump + slide combo can all be done by pressing and moving your thumb a little bit on the haptic pad, or the joystick, or whichever... Wherever you like really since the steam controller lets you decide for yourself what you wanna do and how c: The only point I would concede would be hacking the later level corpus terminals. I still prefer my mouse to solve these. That being said, I think that is mostly due to me not caring enough to configure something on the controller to help with that myself.

[@dashlambda6707]

This is probably the fairest review I've seen so far, and I like it for that, but- And I have one, so this is not just fanboy praising- _How the hell does it feel cheap?!_ Aside from the seam being slightly sharp, the build quality is fantastic. Why in god's name is absolutely everyone saying it feels cheap? Where is that coming from?

[@MegaKosan]

+Dash Lambda (Dash600) Some of the first people who got it said it was cheap and now it´s just the pucblic opinion. Public opinions are cancer.

[@muhdrizal8201]

+Dash Lambda (Dash600) The build quality is not good enough compare to the PS4 or Xbone controller. pls dont compare it to the Elite controller, diff price.

[@jamesoren7238]

I don't really have a dog in the race, but the original PS4 controller build quality was shit. That's why they updated it.

[@shatteredsquare]

It's light. If it's heavy you know it's good.

[@ItsBoyRed]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="123">2:03</a> that battery is upside down!

[@SmileyJuice7]

im using my steam controller to type this

[@asdfxuiop]

this thing screams 'wait for the revision'

[@Vladdie777]

It's Valve though so have fun waiting! It's fucking amazing already anyway! Playing through Wolfenstein New Order using gyro to aim right now and it's so much fun. Still not as accurate as mouse but it's much closer to a mouse than it is to the crane-control of regular joystick FPS.

[@reiverdaemon]

Crane control lmao. Apt description!

[@skumbino]

Crane Control is the perfect definition :D Steam Controller is the best controller for FPS. ...But i HATE STEAM big screen with all myself!

[@hollowrun]

ylang ylang 1 year later. Still nothing

[@antoniobandera2194]

loled at Crane Control part. Will save for future

[@wulfsburg65]

Not a very thorough review. You only stated a few games, without giving mention to any other specific titles. How about playing rpgs like the Witcher? What is the battery life like? What is the range? How does it work for arcade shooters like The Binding of Isaac or Hotline Miami? Point and click games like Diablo? What about RTS games? It sounds like you mainly played it for Civ 5, and not much else.

[@jpchevron]

This. Left so much out.

[@maestroofmetal9]

Knockit Battery life is fantastic. I've used mine for probably around 100 hours and still haven't had to swap out the batteries. I primarily use it for games like Skyrim and Oblivion (since the PC port doesnt have controller support). I used it a bit for Dark Souls and that was a bit awkward but that was only because Dark Souls doesnt play well with KBM. Its fine on Dark Souls 2 and 3 though. It takes about an hour or 2 to get used to the track pad, but I love mine.

[@alexlelel]

Did you know that originally Valve wanted the Steam Controller to have a trackball?

[@exleyhackwell5185]

I use a trackball mouse for gaming and I love the idea

[@Agret]

I've used a trackball for FPS gaming in the past and it's great, would've been a huge improvement over the touchpad we got in the final design.

[@memememegaming]

Maybe why there's a trackball mode

[@lindsaygibson2142]

@@Agret The touchpads are fantastic, you would lose a lot of the versatility if it were an actual trackball (radial/touch menus, anologue emulation, and and on screen keyboard for instance).

[@mitchellblake1475]

To me, the steam controller feels like a good stepping stone for people moving from console to PC gaming. I grew up gaming on console and only in the last couple years got into PC gaming. I did some playing around in Borderlands using it and, once you're adjusted, it feels nice. Flick shots are a lot easier for me using the controller in particular

[@DustinRodriguez1_0]

I like my Steam controller. I even found that in the original Half Life I can actually do that stupid crouch-then-jump-but-don't-jump-while-still-crouched-but-just-after-but-not-too-long-after maneuver that you need once in the training level and then never again until you get to Xen where it will return to ruin your game. I've never finished the original Half Life because of that maneuver. I straight up couldn't do it reliably with keyboard and mouse and just gave up originally. But in testing out the controller I hopped back into Half Life and was able to do everything effortlessly. Quite nice. I haven't really tried it in many other FPS though, I just don't play those much. It's the only controller I've ever had with motion controls that actually WORKS which is kind of amazing. I still have no use for such controls, and the person who decided that a Project Cars mapping that does steering with those controls is clearly a crazy person, but it would be entirely usable if you wanted to do something like that because you too are a crazy person. (I use a racing wheel but tried out the steam controller out of curiosity) Using the right trackpad as a mouse and right trigger as the mouse click button is great, especially when you realize you don't have to fully depress the trigger fully to click, just get it to its haptic activation point. That is extremely nice. My only complaint about it is that I don't think I would like it at all for anything which tries to use the left pad as an actual D-pad like emulators for classic games. I haven't actually tried it, and the left pad is fine for things that use it like the d-pad on the 360 controller is usually used (basically just a set of 4 more buttons) but I can't imagine it being very nice for using it as a 'true' d-pad. Might have to try that sometime.

[@BebxOfficial]

Dustin Rodriguez Crouch jumping? Hard? You new to valve games? :o

[@travispepe553]

bestiebest flashbacks to cs 1.6

[@ricardodelemos6942]

Dustin Rodriguez it's true, the left pad doesn't feel too natural (I use it for chat commands in rocket league) since sometimes you think you're clicking the right but it registers up. I don't think it's too impactful overall though.

[@Lambert555]

Dustin Rodriguez W + CTRL + SPACE

[@synapse7833]

I couldn't help but laugh at linus when he was using a mouse and keyboard on a couch

[@150Neron]

I love playing non-competitive games with my SC, especially on my laptop. I think it's very underrated piece of hardware, and it deserves a second version with some small improvements.

[@killerClaffey]

Its 5$s today! November 27, 2019

[@r3apergamer539]

only for the sale, i got one though

[@tobyl.1703]

You're going to make me cry.

[@javilorenzana]

Got a lot of mileage with slow paced FPSs (which I love). This review should be updated to say GYRO ISNFOR HEADSHOTS. You're supposed to fine tune with it. Geez.

[@javilorenzana]

*is for

[@MisterSaIesman]

The steam controller's gyro is awesome and makes it easy to get headshots in games like MGS V,but the touchpads aren't very good. Maybe in the next gen consoles,all controllers will have built in gyroscopes so you can headshot like a PC gamer with a mouse.

[@garciacelso12]

alexis Nintendo has done it with their controller and it works great for splatoon

[@texannationalist5887]

splatoon is the best example of this, gyro controls are precise and natural

[@Durrutitv]

Is the gyro better when you're a kid now or a squid now?

[@AJ-kj1go]

Bet this would be great for xcom. Can anyone speak to that?

[@Swaggless]

+Aj Koorstra Haven't played XCOM, but in my experience, if you either find a really smart config or make one yourself, it's great for prettymuch everything. Just takes practice.

[@madsclaussen6499]

+Swaggless not for everything lol

[@Swaggless]

***** Only genre I've found I can't figure out and play comfortably on the Steam Controller was 2D retro playformers that play best with D-pads. Analog sticks in general are too "floppy", and using the left pad for movement doesn't feel natural to me. Everything else I've thrown at it from FPS games to world-building games, to action adventure games, to 3D platformers, to point-and-click adventures have been a breeze.

[@madsclaussen6499]

Swaggless fps games? seriously?! how can you play csgo, battlefield, cod etc. with a touchpad?

[@Skragbait]

+Aj Koorstra Haven't played Xcom with mine yet, but I've been playing a lot of Mordheim with it. Works beautifully with Mordheim. I never want to use M&K in that game again.

[@IDrawStuff24]

Personally, i LOVE the steam controller! Once you get used to configurating games for it, you can pretty much play any game, even ones that aren't on steam. Its also really great for a home theatre setup, i tried it and it is good!

[@elijahmeilak2906]

"configurating"

[@gdalex7132]

@@elijahmeilak2906 🤓🤓🤓

[@theronmiller6584]

Steam 2019 autumn sale gang where you at?

[@sirpxl3733]

Here!👋

[@teresamartinson7427]

Here

[@dellstudio10]

Here with my $5 plus shipping controller.

[@zendrace7077]

I just got it and I love it!

[@milesfarber]

This video aged like fine milk left out in the sun with no lid on.

[@ShallowDepression]

I think I want it, but I'm not sure.

[@JoosySmooyay]

+ShallowDepression It's only $60. Take the dive, you'll make that money back in no time. Enjoy life XD

[@TheMrNNPL]

+ShallowDepression You will love it

[@IrgendEineZecke]

+ShallowDepression As someone who doesn't play much games: I am really enjoying it since I can just lean back and use the controller as KB+M when I am not playing. I don't get why Luke is saying that it feels cheap, because it doesn't imo.

[@TheMultipower47]

+Magic Man It's $50

[@dansmith1801]

+ShallowDepression I bought it from gamestop just in case I wanted to return it. I had it for 2 days. first day I was like "meh." Day 2 I fell in love with it once I understood what Gabe was trying to do. It's my favorite controller hands down now.

[@ooh-ahh]

It will vibrate ever so slightly ... just to let you know that the "input" is going through! It's actually very satisfactory 8)

[@HeyHerdy]

I've had the steam controller since it came out and I love it! I play Sleeping dogs, Borderlands 2, Killing Floor 2 and a few others. I can honestly say that within a few percent of accuracy in Borderlands 2 and Killing Floor 2 with my steam controller as with a mouse and keyboard. But when it comes to really competitive games like Rainbow 6 Seige or CSGO a mouse and keyboard is a must. I play game with my steam controller at my desk all the time to get more relaxed and it feels great. Which is why I can say it's the best controller I've ever used.

[@TheWrnglr]

so now that they are on Steam sale for $35...worth the price?

[@Jamailmusic]

Definitely worth the $35, but I depends on what games you plan to play. RPGs and slow paced games are perfect. If you're really into FPSs and that's all you play then not worth it.

[@0cards0]

Tonal Rumble Pak which controller is best for fps or skyrim?

[@Jamailmusic]

First per shooter? Do not get this controller. Slow paced rpgs like Skyrim? Get it.

[@0cards0]

Tonal Rumble Pak but wouldnt this controller be more accurate in a fps then the logitech controller? i tryed once playing fps with the logitech controller & its very hard to aim

[@Jamailmusic]

Technically yes...but it's still kind of hard. It's a nightmare with Overwatch, but that game is completely different compared to COD. It's possible, but it'll take sometime to really get it down.

[@techroam]

ill sell my csgo knife for this xD

[@TheMrNNPL]

+TechRoam I did sell Huntsman Knife Forest DDPAT and I don't regret

[@techroam]

+Vadim Viehoff look at my videos and ull know what i have :)

[@kadengolda2373]

+TechRoam ill give steam controller for knife:3

[@techroam]

how do u give?

[@kadengolda2373]

i dunno:P

[@derekfurst6233]

Even as better as this review is vs other reviews, i think you're STILL not giving this thing enough credit. 1) Literally the glossy plastic is the ONLY place it feels cheap. And thats just an aesthetic choice. The plastic is very light and rigid which work great for a controller without making it heavy. I know we all associate heavy with expensive like the guy who got killed by the t-rex in jurrassic park, but this isn't the case. 2) Did you say a normal controller is better for driving games? Lmao. Another reviewer who despite actually TRYING with this review, completely left out the gyroscope. This this is so much better for driving games than most. 3) I use this thing as my daily driver now, even AT my desktop. Many games work better with controller because their keyboard bindings suck, and this is the first controller to truly mix keyboard input with directx input. 4) I aim better with this in first person shooters than i do with a regular game pad, and SOME are even doing as well as keyboard users. No joke. Also no mention of phase shifting? Or the back pads and their usage? I still can't help but feel you phoned this one in

[@boolean5162]

Of course you aim better on a Steam controller than with other pads, that isn't the point. Pads are utter garbage for aiming in an FPS, there's a reason console COD has aim assist. Look up 360 controller challenge on youtube, it should be joke vids of PC FPS players getting bopped for using one. Steam controller is basically unusable IMO for serious FPS play, and difficult to use but leagues ahead of a 360 pad in casual FPS play; I say this as an owner and massive fan of the Steam controller. What it can't do, it really just can't do. Fighting games? Forget it. Quake? Don't bother. On the other hand, I almost refuse to play Civ without my steam controller. The hotkeys are placed so comfortably and intuitively that I refuse to learn them on a keyboard. It's just sooooo good for games where you need a cursor but appreciate an analog stick such as top-down or sidescroller games with cursor inventories that you just can't go back once you've used it. Plus, wireless with AA's is amazing because it lasts forever and you can use rechargeable batteries. Definitely worth picking up, but only after you have a good keyboard, mouse, and potentially a different pad, depending on your preferred games. My opinion, anyway

[@jamesoren7238]

I find it pretty much spot on. A year later, (got mine black friday last year) and this is exactly how I use mine. It's not replaced my XB1 controller at all, nor my keyboard/mouse at all - both of them are better at their specific tasks, but I do use this on the sofa, sometimes with my laptop (so much easier to take this in my laptop bag than taking an external keyboard when gaming on the go. I have tried to use it in place of my XB1 controller for the games I use that for, in particularly sim games, being very customizeable helped in some areas, but the XB1 controller is also fully supported. I dunno... you could use it just fine if you didn't already have a fully supported controller, but I wouldn't buy it specifically to replace the controller you have now. Shooters are interesting. I'm one of those people that actually don't think that a mouse and keyboard is the best possible control for them. Personally I think the mouse part works really well and the keyboard part really sucks - we just all learn to do it. So I find that when I want to play online or otherwise want to do really well, I'll use mouse and keyboard, but that when I just want to have fun, I use a controller for shooters. Moving around is easier, accuracy is way down. The steam controller is right in the middle of those two. At first I was freakin terrible with it and didn't really use it for a few months, but now, I'm pretty good (playing overwatch on my laptop on a work trip helped). It's not as accurate of course as a mouse player, but it's a lot more comfortable and easier to move with than the keyboard. It's a good middle ground where you can play comfortably and have fun and not suck as much, but it does miss some magic of a controller even here. Basically, yeah, it's an enabler for me as they say in the video. I do like that it lets me play Civ V and co without the keyboard, but I'd never ever use it over the keyboard if it were practical - for example I was away at PAX a few weeks ago and came back to my hotel room late and not wanting to play any more shooters, but thought I'd do a quick round on Civ, I had the steam controller, but didn't even consider not using my laptop keyboard, even if the steam controller allows a more comfortable seating position after a long day.

[@collin1001]

call me a n00b all you want, but what *IS* phase shifting?

[@joshuadworsky4225]

Being an avid couch PC user, it took me awhile, but I eventually learned to configure my steam controller to do damn near everything. I have an absolutely amazing desktop configuration to run the whole dang PC. I thoroughly enjoy making my own controls on every new game I play. Being able to customize your controls so deeply on every game makes old games feel like new. Not to mention games that aren't made for controllers, those are the most fun to configure. As time goes on, I've grown to love my steam controller more and more. It gets better with age.

[@clocker9321]

sold my csgo knife for it. totally worth it, even if it costs twice as much as an xbox one controller ( Poland, prices strange, yeah) i used the haptic + gyro cs go binding. works gr8. i love to use it as a remote for my pc. oh, and this glossy plastic looks cool in my opinion and why i used it since it got delivered ( 2 days actually) it does not get any fongerprints on it, i guess it is because the glossy parts are in the areas that the hand does not touch. the analog is the worst part, but it worls very similiar to the ps3 one.

[@lapinus]

LOL! I sold mine too to get the steam controller. At what rank do you use this? And what's your main rank?

[@matejcevnik7362]

Are you silver in csgo? There is 0 chance you can kill anybody with a controller

[@brutesque]

Been using the controller since it came out. I'm actually very fond of it. I got used to the learning curve and won't have any other.

[@luismiranda8944]

I personally love it. Once you figure out how to use the gyro effectively, games take a new life. Yes, it was strange at first, but then i figured it out and enjoyed myself to where it became my preferred input

[@alperfener1606]

How do you connect the Steam Controller to play Steam Library games from Laptop to TV? Does the controller comes with HDMI cable like in PlayStation?

[@Breadgoods]

It took a while but I really like mine now. One of the set ups for Dark Souls 3 utilises the paddles in a way that means you can run while using the camera, or keep moving while using and switching items. After that I knew playing it on a normal controller would never feel as natural. Any game that requires a lot of aiming often feels clunky but I haven't found myself missing the Xbox 360 controller, or wanting to go to M+KB so I'd say it's a success for me. Rechargable batteries would be nice to see in future but I'm still using the duracells they supply with it after about 2 months of use.

[@thestopmotion]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="393">6:33</a> How often does he blink?

[@1997Nico]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="220">3:40</a> lmao this guy recorded himself just chillin.

[@JB2X-Z]

I know this video is old, but: On my current setup, due to space issues, the desk isn't very comfortable to use with a chair. So, in order to not lean forward like crazy, this really helps in which I can lean back on my chair and avoid stressing my back. It's actually ridiculously helpful. And, the majority of the keyboard functions I use are already accessible on it, too (mostly for web browsing and media controls.)

[@aquaman5464]

i'm unable to use steam controller as a normal gamepad in most games, for eg the left analogue stick to control movement doesnt work in game, i have enable steam overlay, issues still persist. i have successfully used the controllerwith rts games and games like diablo 3 thsts about it, can anybody help

[@themodernshoe2466]

woah they upgraded the pro tech toolkit from 32 bit to 64 bit

[@VampiresDarkCreed]

XD nice catch.

[@tzermonkey]

I just picked up this controller & am impressed with the features and customizable options. Love this thing.

[@caroleanify8117]

Do I need a steam link with steam controller or can i just use steam controller without a steam link?

[@salimmohammed684]

How much watts is the power adapter cause I lost all of my power adapters during “HOUSE SHIFTING” so please tell how much watts it is

[@helmi5045]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="270">4:30</a> I know this vid is old but the controller has motion controlls for things like shooter

[@bpcupid6422]

Not much of a long term review if you miss a major function out entirely!

[@mariofanl1ve]

I really hope valve makes another steam controller based off of the steam deck controller. I'm not sure how they would make that work but I think they could do it. Maybe they could significantly decrease the size of the trackpads requiring multiple swipes just to get across the screen but small enough to fit on a standard size controller. It's not like your gonna be using them that much when connected to a TV. Or at least I wouldn't assume you would.

[@aboveaveragebayleaf9216]

Many people actually do, they work excellently when set up right. Especially in conjunction with gyroscope. You can also make binds on the track pads that make it so you really almost never have to move your thumbs off them. Ramblecan has some good videos showing some of his configurations. Generally what I do for shooters at least is high sensitivity track pad with a little track ball mode, and gyroscope for most of the actual aiming. Then I use rt soft pull for gyro dampening/full pull for fire, so I have two different gyro sensitivities. One for close range, and one for long. If anything I'd love if they doubled down on the track pads, or made the controller modular so you can choose between as second joystick, or a larger pad.

[@andreszyca1741]

I been using it for a year and where it fails miserably is on the L1 R1 triggers and the touch pad clicks. They are slow, loud and unresponsive to a fast clicking, something i cant understand. Should it have this solved in a ps4-feeling way, it would be the gamepad killer.

[@casedistorted]

Did anyone notice at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="123">2:03</a> that he has the right battery upside down? Both batteries go in pointing downwards..

[@cookieenick]

Back here to check if its worth the $5+shipping

[@tlee-gc6ym]

It is so worth it

[@narwhal4304]

It's about $13 after taxes and shipping. In my opinion, that's still worth it over the $30+ for a DualShock or Xbox One controller. Edit: So I half regret my purchase. I'm actually gonna make a review on it after I use it a bit more, but I don't understand some of the designs for the controller itself, and I often find it an inconvenience more than a neat gimmick.

[@cookieenick]

@@tlee-gc6ym yep i bought it :D

[@cookieenick]

@@narwhal4304 I bought it right after watching this vid :D

[@kristinanardone5448]

Once you get used to and customize it to your liking, it truly is a great controller with lots of potential. There's already a ton of custom controller configurations for the Steam Controller as well. Definitely worth the investment if you want a unique spin on a controller. :D

[@codysteigerwalt487]

Are there any ways I could use this outside of steam? For example if I could use it to look up videos on KZbin?

[@MsModeller]

I've used the steam controller for a while now and I use it over my Xbox One controller for everything. I've used the controller for a long time on Doom (where I average about the same/slightly better than I do with mouse/keyboard) and I've used it on abstract games like Hearts of Iron 4 and I tried it once on Planet Coaster. It doesn't work for every game. But I found that it works with pretty much any FPS game (Quake Champions for example) way better than an Xbox Controller, and is diverse enough to work with strat games. And yes. I used it at my desk.

[@deandre1988]

Nice review, but honestly i cannot agree with a few areas. a. I Think the glossy top looks fine, great as a matter of fact. b. Does not feel cheap at all. PS3 controller feels cheap, not this one. c. Price tag is cheap? Wait a second, maybe this is just my country, but this controller is higher priced than both PS4 and XBONE controller, not to mention basically every other controller except perhaps Wii U main controller.

[@deandre1988]

+André Eriksen I forgot to say, Im an early adopter of the steam controller and been playing with it for months.

[@GizmoTheGr8]

I've literally seen you post a steam controller review like 3 times already...

[@rafiahmed2453]

+GizmoTheGr8 You got steamed!!!

[@user-gf7ox6rl3x]

+GizmoTheGr8 Unboxing - Preview - First Impressions - Review - Long Term review - Final Review. Welcome to KZbin!

[@jceggbert5]

My wrists wear out with keyboard and mouse sometimes, so using the SC at my desk feels great. Also to lean back and relax in my chair.

[@bilazaurus2759]

I think that the reason for glossy plastic on these things is to look eye-catching on the box and in the reviews so it draws your attention.

[@DatGamingKid1]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="368">6:08</a> there's a pube on the steam button

[@pepinus9878]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="82">1:22</a> 50 bucks? $59.99 is not 50 bucks, it's 1 cent of 60 bucks -_-

[@JimmyDang2001]

Pepinus haha

[@angeldeschain0]

at least in USA, did you get that part?

[@ahmedelsayed3133]

It is available for $101.24 (153.02 with the import fees). I will never consider buying it even if it can play automatically by itself!

[@momorgoth]

Is there input delay?? (in particular when hooked up to a home theater system?) For example a delay between triggers activation and reaction in game, as in pinball games and shooters?

[@Sitzkrieg]

they added the glossy plastic so that their adhesive "skins" would hold better on their dedicated areas

[@vaporiiz]

Ordered a steam controller & link, I can't wait until they get here next week!

[@PhoenixAceVFX]

i use this controller all the time and its not only on steam games it works outside of steam so you need to review on using it OUTSIDE of steam games

[@Agret]

You need to launch non-steam games/programs through Steam for the controller profiles to load up properly. The controller pretty much relies on Steam.

[@NightfallShadow]

What if my couch and my computer desk is the exact same thing?

[@stareyed]

Can you tell me the recommended steam controller config for Civ 5 and Civ 6? Please

[@CatDevz]

its $5 rn so there is no way im passing up that deal

[@mattwenner8291]

its 2019 and I bought 2 for $10. Gotta love 90% off sales

[@robertslivmanis4608]

How can you buy two? It only lets you get one.

[@Peekofwar]

My hardware is 64x, so should I get the 64-bit iFixit drivers? lol

[@davysauseslayer1294]

why was the GYRO not talked about? the GYRO is the best thing on this controller that give keyboard and mouse a run for its money with FPS games.

[@erikhendrickson59]

Comparing the "quality feel" of the $60 Steam Controller the the $150 XBOX Elite controller is a bit unfair....

[@lindsaygibson2142]

Funny how it's the steam controller that feels cheap, but the elite is the one that's known for having issues and breaking.

[@mattmaillet1186]

is it possible to use the controller to just brows the internet?

[@rejvadin]

+Matt Maillet Yes :-)

[@juststeve2102]

+Matt Maillet I'm using it now

[@gavin528]

how much more fluid is it compared to the xbox or ps4 controllers for web browsing?

[@mattmaillet1186]

Furry Enchilada i got mine the other day its actually pretty good its like blending a mouse with a xbox controller

[@juststeve2102]

Furry Enchilada Much more fluid and intuitive. In desktop mode the right touchpad works as a mouse, the left as the scroll wheel. The trigger buttons work as mouse buttons and if Steam is running in Big Picture mode in the background, you can click the left analog to call up an onscreen keyboard, although it isnt easy typing with a controller.

[@Acheron538]

I don't even use the mouse for gaming anymore. I sometimes find myself using strictly mouse applications with the gyro control alone after closing games because I find it to be so intuitive and comfortable. The gyro control was the game changer with me - I can see myself breathing in the game, even and have to hold my breath to snipe. I use it as a surrogate steering wheel which is accurate enough for driving simulators. I honestly don't think I could go back to WSAD and mouse or the Xbox gamepad.

[@JulienCZ]

I have found amazing use from the SC in conjunction with a Microsoft Surface 3 (4gig ram) This comes in at the same price as an iPad but allows me to play most of my steam games during my hour long commute to work, or when traveling between cities. I tend to also carry around a DS4, so depending on the game one feels better than the other. What's great about the SC for me, is that it has effectively "unlocked" the ability to play many games what might have otherwise required a mouse and keyboard either due to their nature, or because they never got controller support on pc (either from age (jedi Knight games), or laziness (lookin' at you Mass Effect) Knowing that I am abusing a dainty little A7 chip, i have been more than happy playing "full" games on the go, waiting at the bus station, or on the train between 24-60 fps. Things like Heroes of might and magic, Assassins creed Rogue, the lego games, Halflife 2, portal, Deus Ex HR, Mass effect, Guild wars 2, and more all work great on the go with this combination.

[@DoomRater]

Coming back to the Steam Controller after having had a chance to use it myself, I quickly found it cumbersome considering that it only seems to work well with Big Picture. That right there is its biggest downfall. Being unable to use the majority of its customization outside of Big Picture really hurts the viability of the controller to suit my needs. Not to mention, the controller's buggy keyboard and even buggier overlay even when IN Big Picture mode completely killed it for me. I'm waiting to see if anyone puts out usable, universal drivers that don't require Steam at all to make better use of it. Getting that overlay to properly work regardless of game though would be a step in the right direction- while I'll never assume I'll type anywhere near as fast as I can with Google keyboard's swiping, it certainly would help if things like pad buttons worked the way they described, where I could get 16 buttons on a single pad and choose them easily from the pop up overlay. It would solve so many problems where I just don't have enough inputs on the controller or don't need all the inputs to be right there on the front panel, but I don't have a spare button for shifting functions elsewhere. Also, when it crashed while in the middle of using Second Life, the number one application that could have benefited from the Steam Controller to me, it crashed hard- and likely due to the media controls being used within (or maybe just because Second Life is a video RAM memory hog, take your pick).

[@DoomRater]

Ian Morris My games of choice are modded Minecraft (extra buttons make all the difference there) and exploring Second Life with the Firestorm Viewer. I also don't really enjoy turn based strategies but agree on TF2's benefit to a controller that can take advantage of a gyro for enhanced aiming.

[@DoomRater]

Ian Morris Please read what I actually said before saying everything I already agree with. The controller's drivers crashed Steam while I tried to use it. I could not use several features OUTSIDE of Big Picture mode. These are the issues that caused it to go back in the box for me, not the steep learning curve. If anything i was more then happy to put time into using it as a potential keyboard and mouse replacement, but when I can't reliably trigger important keystrokes unless I run the device in Big Picture mode, that's a problem.

[@Mikyate]

I definitely agree that Big Picture Mode represents one of my biggest issues with the steam controller.

[@Andrewe1]

The controller is not terrible, this 'review' is. This is the first LinusTechTips video that I have downvoted. He didn't even cover the use of the gyro and how it makes playing shooters almost (notice I said almost) like playing with a mouse and keyboard. The controller does not feel cheap and comparing it with the build quality of a 150 usd controller is stupid. The only thing I will agree on is the use of glossy plastic, I can't believe there are still electronics in 2015 that use it. Other than that...Thumbs down (to this video).

[@cory8148]

fuck off

[@theshuggie]

<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="124">2:04</a> lol they put the battery in upside down

[@sergeantseven4240]

I mapped it out for use in CAD software. I do not think it was that bad of a controller. it was just useful to a very niche market. I do really appreciate the fact that it is light weight.