this is exactly what Valve wants. A bunch of protable PCs that can do anything like a normal PC......including running Steam and/or SteamOS
@benneboii81173 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Showing people that running AAA games on portable devices is possible will only be a benefit for them, regardless of system used.
@zinger5653 жыл бұрын
Bingo.
@applehazeva27393 жыл бұрын
Steam Deck is basically PC 2
@vivianfoxtail54253 жыл бұрын
no matter who you go for steam wins
@castiel50763 жыл бұрын
@@applehazeva2739 More like PC Lite.
@jackm80833 жыл бұрын
Those look like a little laptop that the stereotypical bad guy uses to "hack" into stuff
@Ebsy13 жыл бұрын
"It's a Unix system! I know this!"
@LightningSquad3 жыл бұрын
I uploaded my Face Reveal...
@DigitalJedi3 жыл бұрын
ikr. I kinda like it though. It's cute in a weird cyberpunk way.
@stacksmasherninja72663 жыл бұрын
@@Ebsy1 then the story reveals that it's a GNU system
@azyrael963 жыл бұрын
Using the sticks as well.
@SeanHodgins3 жыл бұрын
These could be awesome for robotics applications.
@Shredxcam222 жыл бұрын
ABB has one for their irc5 robot controller and it is trash.
@fonix322 жыл бұрын
I was searching for a ultrabook / tiny PC for robotics and arrived here.
@tsionwilliamson13852 жыл бұрын
You say robotics I say networking and penetration testing I mean that things small enough for me to shove in my jackets inside pocket or a small bag with really good spec to size ratio and an inbuilt Ethernet jack and usb 3.0 IO I think that makes it like the perfect solution for anything you'd need to do in the field with a computer
@VincentGonzalezVeg2 жыл бұрын
The platform, like a bike this thing that does this thing we want The idea mana-fest
@edstar832 жыл бұрын
@@tsionwilliamson1385 "perfect solution for anything you'd need to do in the field with a computer" Like hack the Gibson. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIqxn4OubcuNeNU
@LonelySandwich3 жыл бұрын
Alternate title: highest end Intel chip barely beats previous gen AMD chip
@post-leftluddite3 жыл бұрын
barely beats previous gen AMD chip with 3 year old GPU architecture....good for intel, finally using that R&D budget literally more than six times bigger than AMD's to get a win
@Uryendel3 жыл бұрын
It's more because the intel chip is overheating than anything else
@strangestecho50883 жыл бұрын
@@Uryendel Bad thermals isn't really an excuse for a mobile chip.
@speedracer2please3 жыл бұрын
"-While constantly glitching and stuttering" lol
@HanSolo__3 жыл бұрын
Nah it does not beat old AMD, it's an error margin.
@gnpaone3 жыл бұрын
My first thought was "Is the netbook back in the market?" 😀
@BloodshedRomance3 жыл бұрын
I actually really liked netbooks but the performance wasn't there so these make me extremely excited.
@dodecahedron13 жыл бұрын
they never left, current small entry level laptops and chromebooks are exactly the same thing in everything but name and performance
@madgodzilla124653 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see netbooks make a comeback in the mid range market. The smallest laptops we can currently get with modest specification is about 13". I'd like to see some 5500u systems around 8" or 9".
@h3xd3m0n93 жыл бұрын
You mean omnibook
@jbritain3 жыл бұрын
The modern netbook is the chromebook
@TheJuggtron3 жыл бұрын
We're heading back to the old days of "it depends what you're playing"
@thedestroyer38793 жыл бұрын
Becuse we no longer are on the gamecube and ps2 days
@TheJuggtron3 жыл бұрын
@@thedestroyer3879 i was more refering to the days of Voodoo2/3, Virge, Riva128 etc
@zequixd5193 жыл бұрын
@Comas Turda write it on Twitter cuz no one in KZbin will trust you
@HippyHouse3 жыл бұрын
@Comas Turda i think you secretly love the melanin
@sommerblume96713 жыл бұрын
@@zequixd519 what
@Thesilvernintendo3 жыл бұрын
Valve: yes, exactly what we want. We don’t have to make it and people will still buy our games.”
@nexaentertainment27643 жыл бұрын
Well, half the reason for the steam deck is likely to push adoption of valve's OS (or linux in genreal) too. They seem to want to be freed from being reliant windows.
@WolvenSpectre3 жыл бұрын
yeah... all the people will buy these $1750 GPD PCs instead of a Steam Deck or a compact laptop with a controller and stream the games.
@soragranda3 жыл бұрын
@@WolvenSpectre I mean, the most value steam deck is the 700 dollars one... And most would still be buying more storage anyway, 1tb MicroSD is about 250 dollars. Cheapest than the ones right now but the steam deck would still come out next year H2. To that moment Zen3+ (with rdna2 GPUs are coming out!).
@Saiyan4853 жыл бұрын
So basically, these competitors companies are manufacturing nano-ultrabook gaming laptops that have joysticks. Kek.
@neck-o3 жыл бұрын
@@nexaentertainment2764 I don't think this one was running a Linux environment, but it could. Perhaps?
@joshuatatro45033 жыл бұрын
The problem for everyone except Valve is that AMD APUs with RDNA2 cores are currently exclusive to the Steam Deck...
@alexipestov70023 жыл бұрын
@Rettznom Economies of scale... lets see what Steam can pull off there
@locked013 жыл бұрын
Exclusive? Is that so?
@jonasamon90913 жыл бұрын
unfortunately, by the time the deck ships and is in the hands of consumers, there will most likely be rdna2 apus in new laptops and desktops.
@tienatngo91993 жыл бұрын
no one talk about battery?? i think It:s the most important thing. Long battery life make switch be a truly portable gaming device. I dont think steam deck can handle an AAA game for 1-2 hour, just like some gaming laptop.
@hendrikheim56653 жыл бұрын
@Rettznom The cost for them is overpriced is because demand and supply is low, to make profit and make back research, marketing and other stuff they have to charge a premium. There is a reason you could've found at times find laptops with a 1650 with ryzen 5 4600h under 600 easily, heck I even bought one under 500. When you have scale then you can keep the prices lower. Those overpriced gamepads in component probably doesn't even cost 400
@DwarfBaerdyn3 жыл бұрын
"Specifically designed for you, the small business owner..." While I appreciate the vote of confidence, I do believe there has been some miscommunication. 😆
@NiphanosTheLost3 жыл бұрын
Hell, I've been getting e-mails for months now trying to teach me how to improve the logistics of my semi truck fleet. I'm just trying to figure out when I bought one.
@EmblemParade3 жыл бұрын
As good as these are, Valve just blasts them out of the water in pricing. That's the real transformation that Valve is creating, bringing PC gaming down to a cost and level of accessibility that it frankly never had. $400 and you're in.
@hassam3633 жыл бұрын
The thing I'm worried about is how long that price will last. It's some seriously aggressive pricing.
@voltagekd61593 жыл бұрын
Real talk
@ahsanihafizhu3 жыл бұрын
@@hassam363 hope that they produced a lot of steamdeck enough so that it's hard to be scalped
@-Burb3 жыл бұрын
@@ahsanihafizhu You need to have a reservation to get a steam deck order, and you have needed to use steam for a couple months to get a reservation so most orders shouldnt be bots
@dontmatter9663 жыл бұрын
Isn't that how the console business has worked for awhile now? They sell a product at a loss for awhile, and recoup the costs with other services that make it profitable.
@InsanitiesBrother3 жыл бұрын
"The first GPD handheld with Intel XE Graphics"... Also Linus, has literally held the GPD Win 3 in his hands....
@allensword18553 жыл бұрын
Ikr I facepalmed when he said that
@HanSolo__3 жыл бұрын
Savage!
@foxdart3 жыл бұрын
Yeah LTT has gotten just big enough that clearly Linus has less and less time to proof the scripts properly. Like ffs if they had watched their own content they would have seen this error. I know the guy just reads off a screen but even Linus in the moment should have grabbed this one.
@Vysair3 жыл бұрын
@@foxdart LTT has script??
@techfreakjames3 жыл бұрын
@AFK SOLITUDE You're recalling his line after the intro music. Before the music, Linus did say that the Win Max 2021 is the "1st GPD product with Intel Xe graphics." I noticed that error too. His editors have made mistakes like this before like when he reviewed the Win 3. Linus mentioned the GPD P2 Max but his editor showed a B-Roll of the GPD Win Max (2020). I'm not surprised if his writer makes such an error too. It's hard since they make a lot of videos per week.
@nexaentertainment27643 жыл бұрын
"Steam deck competitor" costs over 2x as much, performs worse (at least from what we've seen so far). Yup. I get it, valve is almost certainly selling at a loss, but still. It's not even close, unless you /need/ the keyboard.
@bryanmiller4763 жыл бұрын
Well the these come with twice the storage as the maxed out steam deck and the steam deck isn’t gonna be sold anywhere besides valve themselves, probably not even on Amazon
@dramaticmudderer52083 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmiller476 I don't think it matters that much because most of the time it's going to be shipping from china, no offense
@moltenhydrogen22183 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmiller476 throw a 1tb kioxia bg4 into the deck if you're handy enough and add a microsd card (or have a bunch) for additional games. since you're upgrading storage anyways get the base model deck. Buy a caldigit nano for 230 dollars and rip the bg4 for it. Maybe even throw in a 1tb sandisk extreme for another 200 dollars. 400 + 230 + 200 = 830 dollars. Still 170 dollars short of the gpd win max, and with double the storage (although the microsd will obviously be slower). Use that 170 dollars for an aftermarket keyboard or a dock/usb c hub, or maybe some steam games!
@bryanmiller4763 жыл бұрын
@@moltenhydrogen2218 the steam deck is sold for a huge loss at all storage sizes and done so cuz they have no plans to sell in stores, it’s gonna always remain only available online from valve themselves and they make up money by steam games which they get 30% of all money from anything sold on steam And upgrading the internal storage inside the steam deck isn’t made to be customer friendly and will void the warranty Then you gotta reinstall steamos to get that stock experience back and you don’t even know if that steamos will even be made available like that, we could be looking at a situation where once you erase steamos you are then stuck having to use another os
@moltenhydrogen22183 жыл бұрын
@@bryanmiller476 No it won't void the warranty. That's illegal in the US. And yes, valve has confirmed that steam os 3 will be available for download. Why would they not have it available for download? Please use common sense if you're going to make up excuses.
@DaJuicer50243 жыл бұрын
I run fighting game tournaments here in California, and can confirm that fighting games are 100% tied to being 60fps. Each move has a specific frame data, that assumes the game is running at 60fps. So things can get a little wonky if you run the game at anything other than 60fps.
@ZedDevStuff3 жыл бұрын
is this why most fighting games slow down instead of loosing frames like most games?
@miguelborges79133 жыл бұрын
@@ZedDevStuff yes
@DaJuicer50243 жыл бұрын
@@ZedDevStuff From my understanding, yes. All of your attacks, and movement all have specific frame data, that is tied to the game being 60fps. I can use Dragon Ball Fighterz as an example. Most Light attacks in that game have 6 or 7f startup, and at 60fps it looks smooth. If you change the FPS from 60fps to anything else, the game will still have those attacks come out in 6 or 7f, but since the amount of frames you’re getting is different that will cause the game to look much slower if you dip in FPS. Or much quicker if you uncap the frames manually.
@DigitalJedi3 жыл бұрын
@@ZedDevStuff That's exactly why. Frame based physics means that as it loses frames, it physically takes longer to calculate each thing.
@nexxusty3 жыл бұрын
Why would use a shit terrible game like that as an example. LOL, you run tournaments for that trash? SF, Tekken and MvC are the only fighting games that matter.
@Marioand64Luigi3 жыл бұрын
The steam deck looks to beat these by miles. These arent handhelds, they're literally small laptops that look like a nightmare to actually hold. Not to mention being way more expensive and worse performance wise.
@ligametis3 жыл бұрын
To be fair they are worse in gaming, but overall way more versatile with that keyboard and even thunderbolt.
@Marioand64Luigi3 жыл бұрын
@@ligametis But at that point why not just buy a gaming laptop? These things look about as portable but with less power. And sure thunderbolt is there but again, why not just buy a laptop? Is anyone really gonna buy a graphics card to connect these things to? I certainly wouldn't.
@ligametis3 жыл бұрын
@@Marioand64Luigi Are you talking about buying gaming laptop in place of steam deck if you think just about gaming? Agree, gaming laptop is better than a deck with way more performance or even Switch due to library. But these GPD "mini laptops" are unique, they are a full computer, just a lot easier to carry.
@Tennila23 жыл бұрын
@@Marioand64Luigi This is why I decided to just use my phone with a Razer kishi controller to emulate games. And now when cloud gaming is getting more available there is really no need buying a powerful handheld or even a laptop. And if you still want a powerful pc then I think your correct in buying a laptop instead, since the ergonomics of these handhelds are far from optimal if you account for the weight and grip that they have.
@derekfurst62333 жыл бұрын
@@ligametis I'll say one thing, I type faster on the steam controller than any other controller i've ever used. And its not even close. On an xbox controller, I type like 20 words a minute tops. Steam controller i'm typing as fast as I can text, its amazing. even if you have a controller without touch pads, steam input has this "daisy wheel" thing (although i can't remember if they discontinued it or not) that even made typing faster on xbox controllers
@GianniKnowsBest3 жыл бұрын
Linus: "These are not good for racing games " Also Linus: * proceeds to test racing games *
@kodingamedev3 жыл бұрын
he was talking about the controls, not the graphics lmao
@squitlertron2 жыл бұрын
Well how are you supposed to know how good it is if you don't test it?
@Xfade813 жыл бұрын
I always love how the auto generated subs say "do maternal".
@ronniebasak963 жыл бұрын
That's one way to read it
@marxist-leninist-protagonist3 жыл бұрын
😳
@quinton16303 жыл бұрын
I searched for Doom Maternal to see what jokes people made up before even seeing those subtitles. Linus dropping jokes here
@Adam-qs5ir3 жыл бұрын
Ha!
@jack06543 жыл бұрын
"Hey, I finished cleaning the menswear section of this department store, which section should I do next?" "Oh, could you do maternal" "Doom eternal!?"
@Burssty3 жыл бұрын
I really like that PC handhelds are going to be a competitive market. Will be really healthy for the handheld market and help compatibility between form factors for applications. Bring it on
@TheJohnboyhunter3 жыл бұрын
"I really like that PC handhelds are going to be a competitive market." No, they won't. No one but Valve will release a handheld at what could be considered a competitive price, everyone else will just buy laptops if theybother at all.
@nomad_00363 жыл бұрын
always that one guy who has to be against something
@Tippy5553 жыл бұрын
@@nomad_0036 yes, thats the point of discussion. having only one sided opinions lead to flawed and biased views
@nomad_00363 жыл бұрын
@@Tippy555 putting somone down is not discussion.
@WolvenSpectre3 жыл бұрын
If you call $1750 competitive...
@lanarkorras44113 жыл бұрын
Those ergonomics totally kill it as a gaming device though, whereas the keyboard... Well, I'd neither want to play nor work with that thing for as long as I would have to in order to justify a purchase in the first place.
@nesyboi94213 жыл бұрын
Honestly, as someone who for the longest time only used a 3DS and DS for mobile gaming, I think I could actually get used to the thing considering its form factor is so similair. What would get me is the position of the sticks and buttons and the overall weight of the thing. Oh and at its price point I would rather buy a laptop and hook an xbox one controller into it.
@Ryan-li8qc3 жыл бұрын
I dont want to hold a laptop
@andersonwallace43652 жыл бұрын
There is no scenario where this would be my preferred device.
@RayTRX83 жыл бұрын
In Tekken 6, The Brokenness you were seeing was due to using Asynchronous Shader Compilation in RPCS3, Which skips rendering the objects until the gpu can recompile a shader and put this proccessing on a different CPU thread(s), It's worse on the Intel CPU because that has half the cores, meaning less threads where shader compilation could run.
@TheMedievalNerd3 жыл бұрын
I'm more of a DOS Box retro gamer. And this thing about shaders with some emulators confuse me. Why doesn't it compile the shaders in advance? They have to be built in active memory on the fly?
@RayTRX83 жыл бұрын
@@TheMedievalNerd It's nearly impossible to extract shaders from any given game and recompile them ahead of time since they can be modified before being presented to the emulated GPU, so it ends up being redundant as the shader would need to be recompiled on the fly anyways. There's no way of knowing which shaders will be modified at any given time, so Emulator Developers resort to simply compiling them as fast as possible to minimize stutter.
@mbsfaridi3 жыл бұрын
@@TheMedievalNerd Interesting.
@TheMedievalNerd3 жыл бұрын
@@RayTRX8 Awww! Thank you so very much for the detailed explanation! And now I know!
@RayTRX83 жыл бұрын
@@TheMedievalNerd No Problem 😊
@AdmiralBison3 жыл бұрын
The rise of handheld PCs/Gaming PCs. Hopefully there will be more options, skus and sizes to fit different budgets and demands. Personally I am hoping for an all spec'ed up 9'+ screen handheld gaming PC that could be my main PC for work and leisure.
@jordannoell42223 жыл бұрын
I find it much more likely that the steam deck will be the only real handheld pc on the market, and everything else will fall by the wayside. Valve is selling these at a competitive price to gain more msrketshare and get even more people on steam. Other hardware manufacturers are selling these devices and need to make a profit off of the hardware itself, have thin profit margins as if is, and are selling too an incredibly niche and underdeveloped market.
@Luxstar133 жыл бұрын
this more like the revival of netbooks and portable pc console at the same time.
@scurvofpcp3 жыл бұрын
I've been using a win gdp max (prior version) for about a year now as a travel machine and they are decently sturdy and does pretty well with the thunderbolt external gpu. The intl iris in it kind of sucks balls in some games though, like anything pre 2012
@DwarfBaerdyn3 жыл бұрын
Can't help but be the snarky one here. "...for an all spec'ed up 9'+ screen..." You must be a big one if a 9ft wide gaming console is portable to you. Jokes aside, taking the Switch approach and beefing it up by an order of magnitude does sound nice.
@scurvofpcp3 жыл бұрын
@@DwarfBaerdyn The thing I like about it most is the form factor. it fits in a 10 inch box and that can really be nice for travel, rather than keep it stuffed under the car seat or behind the seat in the net, I can keep that bad boy in the glovebox.
@azel70563 жыл бұрын
If anyone’s curious about the price and just lazy to look it up here apparently it’s around $999.99 on Amazon while the Full price is about $1,049.99
@waawee21862 жыл бұрын
And it sucks compared to the steam deck
@ThatsMrMaxHeadroomToYou2 жыл бұрын
Currently £1399.99 on Amazon UK, exactly 4 times the price of the 64GB model of the Steam Deck.
@scarletspidernz3 жыл бұрын
Intel: We can make the gpu faster by not rendering some things half the time 🤣
@Fishvap3 жыл бұрын
Valve is the best player on the field. They're pushing Linux gaming hard and we will most definitely be seeing games with anticheat in the near future. I'm excited to see what they do with the Steam Deck, and I'm INCREDIBLY excited to see the capabilities of the Steam Deck. Here's to a decade of hopefully great advancements in technology!
@credit08803 жыл бұрын
linux gaming should have been on top years ago. sad its still yet to happen but, hey, its gonna happen!
@billyhatcher6433 жыл бұрын
i agree cause game companies hate linux alot so i bet theyll make it impossible to play them on linux
@hossel_3 жыл бұрын
@@billyhatcher643 why would game companies hate Linux? just because they don't support it, it doesn't mean they have a distaste for the platform. it's just not worth it for them
@myopinionbetter42873 жыл бұрын
@@billyhatcher643 full time linux users are such a minority that most companies don't care. Many linux users still also use windows OS specifically for games which are incompatible with Linux. So companies don't invest in such a miniscule sector unless it grows, after 5%-10% there will be a decent attention to the platform. It's not some irrational hate lmao
@battlebuddy45173 жыл бұрын
@@myopinionbetter4287 plus Linux community tend hate closed source software so there that as well
@GaryA16823 жыл бұрын
Valves pricing strategy is aggressive and highly competitive if you ask me and it obliterates the prices on this systems regardless of spec advantages or disadvantages the only reason I myself would consider the gpd is because of that thunderbolt dock which is amazing to have but is it required for my use? Probably not. I look forward to the steam deck release 😎
@sergeybond973 жыл бұрын
I think you should also test performance at low wattages (10 - 15 watt). That would give around 3 hours of play time or more. Max performance with max power usage is ok but you definitely don't want use device in this mode and constantly charging it to play.
@chincemagnet3 жыл бұрын
I’d be carrying around a power brick in my pocket with a 6 foot USB cable to charge while I played 😆
@lucasrem3 жыл бұрын
sergeybond97 What u use now, is it better ??? This is for kids, not the nerdy games in mums house.
@JamesMichaelDoyle3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem lolwut?
@aarontimm3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem have a day off
@CiDK3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem this is absolutely for the nerdy gamers living in mom's basement
@orderlyhippo15693 жыл бұрын
“Who needs stutter when you’ve got butter.” -Linus 2021
@Maindric3 жыл бұрын
Literally read this as he said it. Surreal.
@justahuman92733 жыл бұрын
@@Maindric it happens to me so often that it gets creepy 😂
@mattdeltoro29523 жыл бұрын
If they made a shirt with this saying I’d buy it
@mrbrittas32543 жыл бұрын
why quote something he said?
@Maindric3 жыл бұрын
@@mrbrittas3254 why quote anything at all? Just looking at it, it's obvious OP liked it enough to provide emphasis to it.
@Mabruk8533 жыл бұрын
yummy that looks soooo comfortable.......i can almost feel the pain in my wrists already, yeah nice. come on if it has a physical keyboard, it is just no damn "handheld" no matter how powerful
@orionfell3 жыл бұрын
Idk doesn’t look too different than like a big 3ds
@Mabruk8533 жыл бұрын
@@orionfell from a more abstract perspective you are absolutely right, but at least a 3ds is not square ^^ and it just really does not look comfortable at all
@8diva83 жыл бұрын
"We made it to where the Master Chief is standing on his thing." My brain just blue-screened xD
@UNORTHODOX_3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad I’m not alone!!
@nailozaz75963 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not alone!! (1)
@98SE3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not alone!! (2)
@ShadowRubberDuck3 жыл бұрын
I like to believe inside the deep areas of valve there lies a steam deck where there is a bunch of emulated games on it where most people are playing breath of the Wild
@datachu3 жыл бұрын
Lol, I'm actually playing breath of the wild right now on my 2-in-1 gaming laptop (in tablet mode of course xP)
@li5up63 жыл бұрын
It's funny that even when you are valve the only games worth playing are made by Nintendo
@calebstuder4483 жыл бұрын
When BOTW released I'm pretty sure there was a huge race to see who could crack it for PC first. It took very, very little time
@GenuineRage3 жыл бұрын
@@calebstuder448 yeah but im fairly certain all the early builds of it were running the inferior wii u version
@alfiegordon90133 жыл бұрын
@@GenuineRage it’s the best version when emulated
@jackcutter23 жыл бұрын
I'm still loving that Gabe is ENCOURAGING this. He WANTS people to he able to play anything on the go with a handheld PC, not a laptop that overheats if it's playing anything other than Sims 2 😂
@Thewaterspirit573 жыл бұрын
Laptops have come a long way in terms of good gaming options :V If the laptop overheats, that would be more on the manufacture not making a good enough cooling solution, or even the user trying to push the system too hard. Even the best gaming laptops are high end tier at best, not enthusiast class (which is another step)
@MrREAPERsz3 жыл бұрын
Laptops today are just as powerful as most gaming desktops
@fartyfat65392 жыл бұрын
@@MrREAPERsz its more about affordability. yes there are tons of powerful laptops to play games with, but what's the point when it costs you 10x more than console/mid tier PC. that's why handheld PC like steam deck is a good idea. Its good enough to run some AAA games but its price is low enough to be an option to console gaming.
@Handles-Suck-YouTube2 жыл бұрын
I have a 1050 ti Nitro 5 that I run both Destiny 2 and other semi-demanding games on without issue. ... all it took was ubdervolting the CPU with ThrottleStop and locking the fans to max. That said, I did try a 3070 equipped Triton 300 and that thing's awesome.
@MrREAPERsz2 жыл бұрын
@@fartyfat6539 laptops are expensive because of portability. You can set up your laptop anywhere and play AAA titles maxed out. The steam deck is a good option, but it's only good because Valve is already rich as hell and can sell at a loss.
@MrHeHim3 жыл бұрын
The best/worst part about testing two completely different GPUs is that the drivers render different settings. So if you put in medium, you might actually be getting just under medium. This is part of driver "tuning" which IMO isn't cheating if it looks the same.
@sim2er3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the driver settings
@greghowards10982 жыл бұрын
The best part is that, you don't have to be the bad guy
@Fintara3 жыл бұрын
Even if they were the same cost as the steam deck, I'd probably still go for the steam deck. I like the form factor of it much better. I'd hate that keyboard being there when trying to play something with the joysticks. If I want a keyboard for the steam deck, I'll get a Bluetooth or USB solution.
@Thornskade3 жыл бұрын
The keyboards on these aren't in the way at all. It's like a Nintendo DS but with a keyboard instead of a screen. They are also designed so you won't hit any buttons by accident.
@stagger96603 жыл бұрын
Yeah steam definitely wins in ergonomics
@rishirajsaikia13233 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that RDNA2 will be faster than the two.
@dramaticmudderer52083 жыл бұрын
@@Thornskade I think they meant it being in the way as in you have to force your hands around the keyboard to even hold the joysticks instead of them being in front of the keyboard
@Thornskade3 жыл бұрын
@@dramaticmudderer5208 You don't have to. These keys don't get pressed by accident.
@Narfu13 жыл бұрын
The DS was so ahead of its time - I mean just look at this, it's literally a BIG 3DS xD
@JmKrokY3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@JmKrokY3 жыл бұрын
What about dual screen Game & Watch
@nesyboi94213 жыл бұрын
I'd rather play on my DS than this tbh
@jesusbarrera69163 жыл бұрын
this is a laptop....
@nesyboi94213 жыл бұрын
@@jesusbarrera6916 yeah, a laptop with sticks
@benjicohn3 жыл бұрын
I love when the captions just say “???” When a background person speaks . I love the LTT editors
@CAGEtheGEGEG3 жыл бұрын
they've been here
@jorgamund073 жыл бұрын
9:36 Production gets tired of correcting Linus and slaps stickers on the screen to keep him from mixing them up.
@elliotmarks063 жыл бұрын
10x smaller and it's still more powerful than my PC...
@CJSpade393 жыл бұрын
Not just 10x smaller but also 10x more expensive than your computer
@peekachugaming32313 жыл бұрын
So you watched the Video in 1minute. Its out 1minute and your commentary is 1minute old right now. So your PC seems to be blazingly fast if you can comment over the performance already.
@isaacmoon67393 жыл бұрын
F
@xiran47103 жыл бұрын
F
@elliotmarks063 жыл бұрын
@@peekachugaming3231 I'm on my 4.5 year old phone...
@MondoMurderface3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the situations where the "Why not just buy a laptop" crowd has a point. The controls look awful so you would almost certainly need a controller anyways, adding a ton of girth to its carry size. Its for someone, but not me. Sticking with my steam deck preorder.
@MrFastFox6663 жыл бұрын
From what I've heard, the Win Max actually has some decent ergonomics once you get used to it. Also, the Win 3 has the same Xe Graphics on the i7 model and is much smaller so it can fit in your pocket. The i7 ii65G7 is also likely better for gaming since it likely uses less power, leaving more available for the iGPU.
@dramaticmudderer52083 жыл бұрын
@@MrFastFox666 Never put a device(or anything) with joysticks out and vulnerable without a cover or something in your pocket, it damages them
@Netsuko3 жыл бұрын
I mean at which point do we stop saying "handheld" and start calling it "small notebook" Because honestly, the GPD Win Max is just that. A small notebook.
@ShockingPikachu3 жыл бұрын
May we call it a netbook. Coz they were small notebooks
@marvinzimmerman18782 жыл бұрын
@. not really
@marvinzimmerman18782 жыл бұрын
@. not really
@thesteelrodent17962 жыл бұрын
machines this small used to be called palmbooks (a term coined by HP IIRC). They mostly died out because they're overall terrible to use and cost more than most 13" laptops
@anikun3 жыл бұрын
"The best intel graphics to date" That was a very low bar to beat
@mattdeltoro29523 жыл бұрын
“Who needs stutter when you’ve got butter?” Please make this into a shirt
@cpeyton789103 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ShockingPikachu3 жыл бұрын
“The most powerful integrated graphics we’ve seen from intel yet!” Lol that’s like saying it’s the FASTEST CAR WE HAVE EVER SEEN from John Deere
@ChannelRejss3 жыл бұрын
"Maybe more broken ... but it runs faster." New Intel technology offering more fps unveiled. They call it "live removal of game assets during gameplay". What isn't there, doesn't need to be computed.
@lucasrem3 жыл бұрын
GNZ We, developers need to support that, but we do more offscreen rendering now for ray tracing and all. u need to understand it first! Why you cry that, are you willing to rewrite all titles for this intelGamboy crap????
@ChannelRejss3 жыл бұрын
@@lucasrem Where was I crying? It's clearly just a joke. 😅 besides, even if the assets need to be used for computing GI in the back, there's hardly any denying that visually clipping whole models will result in less compute for textures and possibly reflections, refractions etc...just out of curiosity though is that Tekken title actually even calculating any amount of GI at all?
@kieranlee96102 жыл бұрын
said this before say it again weirdly enough its just linuses gpd win max amd that gets more fps than the intel version intel one usually gets 10fps more in most games says this on the site too
@sietsedegrande2133 жыл бұрын
It does look less usable as a handheld though
@Clickscap3 жыл бұрын
When he played doom it looked pretty comfortable
@izamanaick3 жыл бұрын
It does look more usable as a laptop though
@bmwofboganville4563 жыл бұрын
Win Max is uncomfortable vs OneXPlayer
@techfreakjames3 жыл бұрын
I have the Win Max and it's pretty comfortable. Majority of the reviewers of the OG Win Max liked it too.
@bmwofboganville4563 жыл бұрын
@@techfreakjames the OneXPlayer layout is far superior. Just use a bluetooth keyboard if one is needed. Win Max is awkward, palms splayed outward, it's a design which will die off.
@phillee28143 жыл бұрын
I'm most impressed with the Intel, as that is currently WAY behind in terms of software graphics optimisation, and there are bound to be some huge gains to be had once developers start catching up with that. I wonder if it can operate over PoE?
@TYKUHN23 жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised the Intel was faster in many cases, it was rendering half as much.
@Falcon5ive3 жыл бұрын
"Intel's top of the line...it promises to be an absolute beast, it's got 4-cores...." oh I see, Intel gets a participation trophy now.
@bigmclargehuge11703 жыл бұрын
More cores isn't necessarily going to help if you're limited to 25w.
@phionfire3 жыл бұрын
@Kawaxte which is a lot slower than the competition in single-core, which is way more important for a device like this. So what's your point?
@Resanctify3 жыл бұрын
These idiots fell for the core amount hype. 6 cores is barely a thought for actual thinking power users for browsing while a game is loaded. 4 cores is still the most non-VM users will need on a regular basis. You people have hype rot in the brain, you do know clothing brands aren't that different either right?
@phionfire3 жыл бұрын
@Kawaxte it’s a handheld, if you want to do workstation tasks buy/build a workstation; fewer, faster cores, are far more useful here. This isn’t an argument, I was just pointing something out. If you want the best of both worlds, the closest thing is an M1 MBA/Pro, depending on how long your loads are, and how much you care about the slight performance deficit of the Air when it eventually clocks down. But then you can’t game very well, so they’re not very applicable here. They’re just the only true thin-and-light machines competitive with desktops in pro-level workflows.
@etaashmathamsetty73993 жыл бұрын
@@bigmclargehuge1170 with ryzen apus you can "overclock" (tdp increase) them using ryzenadj / renoir mobile tuning and more cores do help with a 25 watt tdp another thing i noticed with my 4700u is that it performs terribly in dx11 games but when using vulkan my fps is greatly improved
@zacharykew-denniss50683 жыл бұрын
Ah, Little Big Planet. I grew up on that series. We need a new one 😭
@nokian90053 жыл бұрын
It's really weird to me that I can watch the no-audio closed-captioned "preview" of any of your videos, and my brain just fills in the silence with an imagined version of your voice.
@334nickg3 жыл бұрын
So basically they're really small laptops that are uncomfortable to use and only get an hour or so battery life? I'd like to see a comparison of a full day of gaming between this class of laptop, a switch, and an ipad w/keyboard & controller. Maybe throw a laptop with a dedicated GPU in the mix as well.
@Gorger123 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of my steam library runs without a hitch on tiger lake. So far the only one I have run into issues is Doom eternal. Doom 2016 and Forza run great. I am not sure if Linus cherry picked games that worked poorly on XE or if it was by chance. With how pre-orders went down, I doubt the bulk of people will have a steam deck in hand before we have options for 5nm ryzen apus with rdna 2 being released, or intel's next line of improvements. If someone is watching this to decide what to buy, I would recommend the GPD win 3 for its portable size, great power efficiency, and build quality.
@ReelPodcasts3 жыл бұрын
"latest book in Lord Gaben's Gospel." nice one there. Props to the writers for that one.
@JoseGarcia-mi4ig3 жыл бұрын
Too bad most of these “hand held” devices, literally cost the same as a budget gaming laptop with actual performance and cooling…
@sumeunggai56653 жыл бұрын
Ain't no gaming laptop going for 599. Only talking steamdeck
@JohnnyinCLE3 жыл бұрын
@@sumeunggai5665 ... With a GIMPED storage option, no less. Give me 2282 or nothing at all.
@bytezero38183 жыл бұрын
And no battery time to speak of.
@DarkLink1996.3 жыл бұрын
I mean, the non-max GPD Wins can literally fit in your pocket, so you're paying for convenience there
@JohnnyinCLE3 жыл бұрын
@@bytezero3818 Don't get me started on that. THE PHAWX have a very good assessment on the Wh math, that does stand up, against the theoretical being touted. Like The Phawx, I've been using and testing portables for a long time. I have no doubt that Valve will eventually release a nice device. But the first model ain't it for me.
@nguyenquanavi3 жыл бұрын
Other people: *treat devices like carrying eggs* Linus: *grab win max by the screen*
@SVW19763 жыл бұрын
Yeah Linus. We've seen these before. 🙄 Theres a reason why we're waiting for Steamdeck
@mastertchift64153 жыл бұрын
Hi
@ailurus80893 жыл бұрын
Hi
@ThatGuy-rl5rq3 жыл бұрын
O/
@torokun3 жыл бұрын
Biggest advantage these other devices have is that they are faster with iterations. Experience might not be as smooth. But they will keep pushing for the latest specs at cheaper price than Valve
@terrycook27333 жыл бұрын
I still think PSP was 10 years ahead of its time.
@grimmdaniel46223 жыл бұрын
Loved that. I remember, in its time it had much better games than smartphones have right now. Almost AAA games with decent campaign. For iOS/Android, apart from GTA ports there isn't any, just "mobile games" like Asphalt, or Real Racing. But honestly who wants to play with those?
@geforce55913 жыл бұрын
The steam deck is offering similar performance at half the power. ~15 watts.
@ZedDevStuff3 жыл бұрын
and half the price
@stealthysaucepan20163 жыл бұрын
*Better performance
@thunderingeagle3 жыл бұрын
@@stealthysaucepan2016 + better ergonomics
@_Chad_ThunderCock3 жыл бұрын
+better battery life
@HealyHQ3 жыл бұрын
@@_Chad_ThunderCock +better in general
@kyles85243 жыл бұрын
actually the GPD win 3 also has Intel XE graphics
@kurtnelle3 жыл бұрын
The form factor for these types of devices is very important. This looks good as a child's first computer.
@lilkittygirl3 жыл бұрын
It’s great for anyone. This is definitely far beyond what a child should be using. These are enthusiast adult gaming machines
@Ssshrugs3 жыл бұрын
@@lilkittygirl Obviously these aren’t supposed to be baby’s first computer. What the guy was trying to say though, was that they look like shit. Which they do, especially compared to something as slick looking as the Steam deck
@m.irfan-70693 жыл бұрын
Switch like form factor is better way for gaming
@speedracer2please3 жыл бұрын
I'm really excited to see the state of this whole category by the time I have a family and no time for proper gaming! I like the idea of the Switch but it doesn't have most of the games I've been playing.
@gotoastal3 жыл бұрын
The eGPU situation and lack of USB4 support on the Deck seems like a massive oversight
@ivanheffner25873 жыл бұрын
“It’s definitely broken on Intel, but it runs faster.” Great. Intel can render errors faster than AMD can render properly.
@Radgerayden-ist3 жыл бұрын
Best optimization in programming, do less stuff
@theoriginaldylangreene3 жыл бұрын
@@idkanymore3382 Intel's latest flagship just barely scrapes past AMD's previous generation....It's Intel fans that are seething.
@SkrovnoCZ3 жыл бұрын
@@theoriginaldylangreene I think that both brands are good. Sometimes is better AMD and sometimes is better Intel. And we need that... the competition. Because having a competition sometimes leads to lower prices, and I think that nobody has problem with that.
@Heliocentric3 жыл бұрын
@@andyastrand why do you care? Is your girlfriend trans?
@ivanheffner25873 жыл бұрын
Wow. Paraphrase an observation and the fecal pillars appear. Intel vs AMD. Better / Worse. It depends on the task and the goal. On one game Intel has more frames and more improperly rendered frames. The same game AMD has fewer frames and fewer render errors. What is better depends on whether you want animation stutters when frames drop or if you want all of the frames regardless of whether all objects in view are properly rendered. Who.. The F-K. Cares.
@oliverrugg37323 жыл бұрын
"we've invented the laptop, but smaller"
@nsp5853 жыл бұрын
3 years ago
@stealthysaucepan20163 жыл бұрын
Netbooks: let me introduce myself
@snackbarian99373 жыл бұрын
Linus holding his mousepad and shouting his store front is more convincing than those 15 second ads before KZbin videos. Shut up and take my money lol
@EmulationDojo3 жыл бұрын
And these competitors can too be yours, for only the low low price of 3 Steam Decks.
@DigitalJedi3 жыл бұрын
I hope that custom SoC in the steam deck, or something like it, can find its way into tablets. I would love to have a reasonably powerful x86 tablet. My use case of specific drawing apps and java programming interfaces that don't like ARM is super niche, but I'd like to move on from my atom powered tablet from 2017.
@kbhasi3 жыл бұрын
I agree, especially if it ended up not only having various features I want (many to list), but if the bootloader wasn't locked down like on Lenovo Yoga Tab 3 Pro so I could go from Android to desktop Linux when I want!
@DigitalJedi3 жыл бұрын
@@kbhasi That would be really sweet. I would love to be able to switch between say, Linux and Windows 10/11 on my development device. It would be much better than having to wait to get home and do the windows things on my workstation, when I really should be able to do those things on-site.
@freemansfreedom85953 жыл бұрын
14:55 you forgot that it may also includes surprise fireworks!
@Jake17023 жыл бұрын
Hopefully in a couple years these things can all start shipping with SteamOS or some other distro.
@ss-xy2im3 жыл бұрын
Highly unlikely GPD will release linux drivers. So far they have relied on the Linux community for drivers.
@Green0Photon3 жыл бұрын
Steam Deck will be better. These don't have LPDDR5-5500 quad channel, these have LPDDR4X-4800 dual channel, and part of why consoles can be good is the GDDR6, so having the newest fastest widest channel memory is incredibly important. As with all other AMD integrated laptops, these are all Vega, not RDNA2. And this is Zen 2, even if it could've been Zen 3. Valve can't use Zen 3 yet, since AMD has none of the Zen 3+RDNA2 custom silicon done yet. As for the Intel chip, those 96 cores are the same as with the 1165G7. The only difference is some number of 100-500MHz depending on the scenario. Which probably won't be helping that much. Really, by far the most important thing is really that the memory is choked on all but the Steam Deck. If you did want to use these, I'd probably buy the Intel just due to the updated iGPU though, but really the better purchase is the Steam Deck by far.
@szurketaltos26933 жыл бұрын
Even for productivity the steam deck isn't so bad. Just use an external keyboard, though some sort of stand may be necessary too.
@ligametis3 жыл бұрын
When you will be able to buy deck here and now I think GPD will already have something better. Steam Deck also doesn't have a keyboard.
@ciphray3 жыл бұрын
These are actually quad channel lpddr 4266, not that that puts them ahead of the steamdeck, however quad channel with the memory used in these and the steamdeck is not equal to quad channel in a desktop, quad channel here ends up with 128bit width like dual channel desktop ram, unlike quad channel desktop which is 256bit
@ligametis3 жыл бұрын
@Jack Reaver well one can function also like a computer, you can trubleshoot problems in servers, quickly connect it to other computers, overall it can be used for some serious valuable work. While Steam one even though has computer insides can pretty much be only used for gaming, even taking a couple of notes on train would be completed
@_Chad_ThunderCock3 жыл бұрын
@@ligametis the stuff ur talking about is all the reasons to get a small laptop lol
@ichinichisan3 жыл бұрын
9:35 Linus doing his Dr. Noonian Soong impression. Brent Spiner would be proud. 🖖
@apocalypseap3 жыл бұрын
Intel only runs faster on Tekken 6 because it's literally not rendering some of the graphics.
@christophersholes13773 жыл бұрын
Yeah Intel struggles to compile shaders while the game is running in multiple emulators. AMD does much better there, often being unnoticeable that it is compiling.
@Nutt_lemmings3 жыл бұрын
Bruh the games not meant to be played above or below 60fps
@christophersholes13773 жыл бұрын
@@Nutt_lemmings It fails to render them at 60 as well for the same time frame. Also when you're benchmarking things you uncap frames to see maximum potential.
@gabe43603 жыл бұрын
Meh, Deck has far better controls/ergonomics. And power efficiency a.k.a. playtime.
@stealthysaucepan20163 жыл бұрын
And price and performance...
@yourfellowhumanbeing23233 жыл бұрын
Don't jump the gun, let it release first
@chortlesg.36413 жыл бұрын
At least on the Win Max (both versions), there's both a bigger battery (something like 57 Whr to the Deck's 40 Whr) and the CPU/GPU power can be limited to the same 15 W max as the Deck for more playtime
@gabe43603 жыл бұрын
@@chortlesg.3641 Considering they have lower performance at 25W, I don't see how further reducing that to 15W would help other than in battery.
@chortlesg.36413 жыл бұрын
@@gabe4360 Helping with the battery is exactly what I meant re: TDP down to 15 W on either version of the Win Max.
@ThyInfoMan3 жыл бұрын
Man, the fan on that thing is super noisy, especially considering Linus's mic is far away from the device and it's picking it up
@michaelroberts51913 жыл бұрын
The “average customer” wouldn’t be buying this😂
@ryle16833 жыл бұрын
Exactly, "handheld portable gaming" is stupid.
@michaelroberts51913 жыл бұрын
@@ryle1683 no it's not stupid honestly, phones are only capable of so much, but the person buying this instead of a switch 1. knows about and 2. Probably had a basic understanding of PC gaming
@ryle16833 жыл бұрын
@@michaelroberts5191 i understand the mobile gaming because everyone have a phone these days that when you get bored in a commute or in a long travel you can just pull out a phone and game on it but seriously "Portable Gaming PC"? Competitive gamers knows that's just Marketing BS for kids, if you travel a lot, why not just buy a gaming laptop, you can also use it for work and other stuff rather than these stupid "handheld portable gaming device"
@michaelroberts51913 жыл бұрын
@@ryle1683 in the American market, convenience is King, so small and lighter but still capable will always have a place. That's why phones beat out tablets for our person computing devices
@ryle16833 жыл бұрын
@@michaelroberts5191 Yeah, i guess it's a western thing, have a nice day
@konkelkent3 жыл бұрын
Ok youre telling me that "competitor" isnt just a fucking small Laptop, like cmon now
@stealthysaucepan20163 жыл бұрын
Mum can we have a steam deck? We already have a steam deck The steam deck at home:
@Light-DelaBlue3 жыл бұрын
for 1300USD....... taht HURT compared to the 599USD of the steam deck!
@konkelkent3 жыл бұрын
@@Light-DelaBlue Ridiciolus, too me its looking like a Gimmicky Laptop. The steamdeck and Nintentdo switch are completely differenty things, and different experiences.
@jesusbarrera69163 жыл бұрын
GPD already makes products focused on gaming, this is also focused on work
@Casavo3 жыл бұрын
It's funny for me as these devices fit my gaming profile way better cause of the keyboard yet I find the steamdeck more interesting. I only play strategy games like hoi4, ck2, and total war and yet I'm more interested in a steam deck that is impractical for that type of gaming.
@qwertyfreak03 жыл бұрын
I canceled my funding for these when I heard the steamdeck was coming, best choice I’ve made.
@CarbonPanther3 жыл бұрын
Then again, that might kill of competition when everyone is buying the Deck! Valve can do this low pricing because of how financially successful they already are, AYA or GPD don't nearly have the funds to go that low and make mass contracts and are therefore reliant on ours, however, i find it odd that even with that in mind, most of these recent portables do anything but innovate, using the same internals for years now with the same general reused layouts.
@KibaWolfbane3 жыл бұрын
Same, I considered the Win 3 until I saw the deck. Don't see how this one's any different than that.
@tradeka42063 жыл бұрын
@@CarbonPanther like you said, none of these companies have the resources and reach that valve does, so it will be easy for them to come in and basically corner the market on these specialized handheld PCs. They’ll be offering better performance and most likely better build quality at a better price. Their deal with amd is a huge advantage too, there’s not really anything the other companies can do to compete with that.
@maserade123 жыл бұрын
I love the steam deck but the lack of thunderbolt is why I'd rather keep my GPD win 3 for now. One of the main reasons I got the win 3 is so I don't have to haul my whole PC to a friend's house and instead just bring the win 3 and an external GPU. Though as soon as one of these portables has zen 4 with a usb 4 port I'll gladly get it.
@alexipestov70023 жыл бұрын
@@tradeka4206 Not necessarily, the Steam Deck fits a niche, the competitors just need to fine a different one, after all custom computers of an unusual form factor isn't terribly crowded
@commodorebuttfreckle66103 жыл бұрын
Me who never leaves the house: I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK!
@flameshana93 жыл бұрын
But if you're not on the go you wouldn't need a portable system?
@midimusicforever2 жыл бұрын
Valve doesn't mind competing hardware as long as you can run Steam on it.
@jakelewis75953 жыл бұрын
I feel GPD should use the trigger style bumpers, plus if you are using it on a tv it can add for more ventilation when its sitting down on a table.
@TheAnonLee3 жыл бұрын
Valve may not be the only competitor in the field but they’re the only ones bringing their products to market with an affordable price tag that most can afford, unlike their almost/at least $1000 usd gaming ready pcs which aren’t nearly as powerful in a price to price comparison
@XzaroX3 жыл бұрын
A lot of these indie devices are much cheaper if you get them through crowdfunding than via retail. Also Valve can afford to sell at a loss, indies cannot.
@goose61023 жыл бұрын
Dont forget that the gpu is between an rx 5700 and rx 6900 xt
@jamesyu52123 жыл бұрын
Good luck matching gpd prices with the steam deck outside the US. Steam deck has lower storage and no windows operating system even at its highest tier option. That would add another 200 dollars. Importing adds another 20% if you’re not in the US. You can already see that in the UK pricing of the steam deck. And while GPD retails at 999 in the US, they’re really closer to 850 to 900 on most Asian resellers. Steam deck is really good value… if you’re in the US. The opposite is true if you’re Asian. These are the realities of import duties. So for me GPD is actually way cheaper and better value, plus it’s available right now… whereas steam deck is only available in real quantities by Q3 2022. By that time, more powerful versions of the GPD will be available. Linus already mentioned anecdotally that the current gpd devices are just as powerful as the steam deck ( albeit at higher tdp and thus lower battery life). The next generation of devices would exceed the steam deck in power or battery life by the time steam deck comes out. So… I don’t buy into valve’s hype, because I bought into it a few years ago with their steam machines and got burned with the overpriced Alienware alpha r2.
@chortlesg.36413 жыл бұрын
@@jamesyu5212 From what I've read the Intel CPU in the Win Max's 2021 refresh is more power-efficient than the AMD CPU version when their TDP is above 15 W -- same as the official limit for the Steam Deck -- but conversely the AMD CPU being more efficient if they're both below 15 W.
@jamesyu52123 жыл бұрын
@@chortlesg.3641 power efficient is not the right word. The intel cpu has a higher performance ceiling at 15 watt tdp or more, whereas if you care more about efficiency the amd chip beats it especially at 14 watt or below. Let’s just say intel performs 20% better at 28 watts vs. amd at 25 watts. But by that power level you really wouldn’t be calling both “power efficient” because you can only game for an hour or less on full charge.
@ziad30772 жыл бұрын
The title is misleading gpd win max was released before the steam deck was even revealed
@JelloTalks3 жыл бұрын
"Light casual games" *Laughs in Breath of the Wild*
@gluttonousmaximus90483 жыл бұрын
Metroid Prime 4's literally being labeled as Nintendo's Halo Infinite there despite there being absolutely no visual info since 2017.
@martijnholland17143 жыл бұрын
Why on earth would you compare these devices to the steam deck? The form factor is completely different. A small notebook with some type of game controllers versus a from the ground up designed hand held game device. I don’t see the “competition”.
@blueguy093 жыл бұрын
portable handheld gaming pc, that's the category.
@manuelnunes15022 жыл бұрын
GPD came out before steam deck which I think some don’t know. It is nice to see more handheld PC being made.
@1ajgtwm3 жыл бұрын
As soon as Linus said GPD, we all rolled our eyes and knew the pricing was going to be outrageous
@jamesyu52123 жыл бұрын
Relative to what? Which umpcs with equivalent specs are cheaper?
@dhgmrz173 жыл бұрын
@@jamesyu5212 Well, the Steam Deck if you're comparing it to that
@jamesyu52123 жыл бұрын
@@dhgmrz17 the steam deck has half the storage at the highest tier, no windows license, no keyboard, has just one usb c port compared to 2 full I/O ( 2 usb ports type A, two thunderbolt, hdmi and lan port) and you have to buy the steam dock to get that many ports, no free mouse, no free earphones, all of which cost more than the 350 dollar difference if you add them all up. So no, this isnt really too overpriced compared to what youre getting and yes, even against the steam deck.
@lucasrem3 жыл бұрын
linus is just mumbling marking sheets...
@acejon21623 жыл бұрын
A steam deck with 1TB built-in and licensed Windows OS will likely be more expensive than this, and it doesn't come with built-in keyboard and the steam deck is much bigger on size with the width at 30cm long, no built-in USB A ports etc. So the con list is very long for the steam deck.
@applehazeva27393 жыл бұрын
When i had a gpd win 2, i thought it was Revolution Look where we are now.
@Theboss000773 жыл бұрын
Thunderbolt port is great addition for this device and I hope Stema Deck will have it or at least USB 4
@RaXXha3 жыл бұрын
The form factor they've chosen for these is ridiculous. xD
@derekfurst62333 жыл бұрын
Eh at least they sell multiple form factors. the win-max line runs along side the win 1-3 line. Most people would probably prefer the win 3, but the win max has a bigger screen, bigger battery better performance, and a physical keyboard. So i can't fault them for giving more options
@arsnakehert3 жыл бұрын
Finally, the gaming netbook _Finally_ we can have cyberdecks after 10 years of iPads disrupting that market
@CodeVenomSnakes3 жыл бұрын
They are not netbook but switch form factor for pc and powerful enough for AAA games.
@stealthysaucepan20163 жыл бұрын
@@CodeVenomSnakes they are basically netbooks dude
@GreyBlackWolf3 жыл бұрын
@@CodeVenomSnakes Kinda. Yea they can run them, but low frame rates and thats at medium settings. So saying it can run them is a bit misleading. Cause for some (like myself) thats not acceptable circumstances at $1k to $1.5k.
@arsnakehert3 жыл бұрын
@@CodeVenomSnakes Steam Deck is Switch form factor, this is a netbook with analog sticks and controller buttons tacked on tbh I prefer the idea that it's a modern, non-scifi cyberdeck since you can run Linux/WSL on it and just connect to a cloud server or do your own programming in it with something that's small enough to actually feel somewhat comfortable on one's lap
@arsnakehert3 жыл бұрын
Like, cyberpunk-inspired cyberdecks are kinda impractical and flashy in the real world, netbooks were how the concept (at least in terms of form factor) translated to reality iPad and the ensuing touch-first, content consumption app-first tablets disrupted the netbook market, it's refreshing to see something of a comeback of them, especially more powerful ones
@RyadMax3 жыл бұрын
Linus:Has the latest games on the desktop Also Linus:Has Batman Arkham Asylum
@Jonas-ej7id3 жыл бұрын
Those look more like mini laptops with thumbsticks rather than a handheld pc
@Netsuko3 жыл бұрын
It's just kind of silly those things would even be called "handheld" it's literally just a small form factor laptop. Just because it has four buttons and a thumbstick does not make it a handheld. Linus is going kind of hyperbole.. yet again...
@Jonas-ej7id3 жыл бұрын
@@Netsuko It would've been cool if you could fold up the screen all the way like a 2 in 1 And the analog sticks were in the sides of the screen. That would make more ergonomic. These devices suck at being both, a proper laptop and handheld. And at that obnoxious price, you're better off just getting a light gaming laptop that has way better specs (a dedicated gpu).
@astealoth3 жыл бұрын
I am surprised GPD didn't jump on the Ryzen APU way sooner. After seeing what my laptop with a 5500U can do, I am 100% in on the low power gaming thing. It's a 7 CU Vega + 12 thread Zen 2 CPU. It can run my whole Steam library native 1080p on 15W. Glorious. Intel Xe looks great on paper, but it is going to take them a long time to prove themselves in the driver space. The DOOM performance is terrible, but it is almost certainly a software issue. They need to get gamers in the driver team. For 15 years Intel HD drivers were optimized for web browsing with no thought for gaming performance. Now they're trying to break into the gaming APU market but the software is still rudimentary like it was in the Core2 days. We're this far into Xe's lifecycle and it can't even run id tech, one of the biggest and most mature engines on the market? Just bad decisions.
@gangwu45413 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. Doom runs perfectly on intel tiger lake early on, suddenly it’s broken after a game update??? This is unacceptable.
@psycomutt Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed coming backs here and reading the ignorant comments/arguments a year+ later. Good fun
@nathansstuff15473 жыл бұрын
Reason you'll find such different advertised framerates is kinda due to GPD being quite biased towards Intel. For a lot of the games listed, the Intel machine won't reach those advertised framerates.
@GameplayzOfficial3 жыл бұрын
That's not a handheld console, that's straight up a beefy netbook, not nearly a Steam Deck competitor.
@pariaheleven2 жыл бұрын
12:50 lmfao I haven't heard that insult since middle school
@kanishksagar48173 жыл бұрын
"The first gpd handheld with Intel xe graphics" Gpd win 3: Am I a joke to you